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Gyron
11-28-2007, 11:20 AM
Pacers Tinsley taking over offense?

(http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071128/SPORTS04/711280443&theme=&template=printart)Indiana Pacers point guard Jamaal Tinsley leads the team in assists. That's not a surprise. Tinsley went into Tuesday's game at Denver second on the team in field goal attempts. That is a surprise. Tinsley said the Pacers coaching staff has encouraged him to be aggressive with the ball. "I'm getting the ball more in transition and I'm able to create for myself more," said Tinsley, who would rather score only 10 points per game in exchange for four more victories. "Teams aren't used to seeing me get so deep in the paint and me looking for my shots." In 10 games, Tinsley has attempted at least 10 shots. He has taken 189 shots this season, second on the team to forward Danny Granger's 195. Tinsley, who is shooting just 39 percent from the field, said he feels he shoots too much at times. He routinely talks to assistant Lester Conner, who played point guard during his career, about his shot selection. -- Indy Star

Shade
11-28-2007, 11:30 AM
I alluded to the possibility of Carlisle doing the same thing a few times last season, giving Tins the green light, and even encouragement, to shoot more. Although I think that says more about our other "shooters" on the team than it does Jamaal's shooting ability. We needed shooters during the off-season, and we still need shooters.

Unclebuck
11-28-2007, 11:31 AM
Yes he does. But it isn't the pure number of shots he takes, it is the type of shots he gets.

I only want him to shoot 3's when he has to, when the shot clock is winding down, when the ball is moved around first and is passed to him and he's wide open.

Really the same thing for shots outside of about 15ft .

However, especially if he has a smaller point guard defending him, I have no problem with him posting up, using his strength to shot over his smaller defender. Also if the team doesn't have a real good shot-blocker, I have no problem with him shooting his little shots in the lane.

Ragnar
11-28-2007, 12:40 PM
I 100% agree UB.

I think Jamaal would rather not shoot the ball at all. He seems far more happy to pass than to score.

Oneal07
11-28-2007, 12:41 PM
I love how he got that 3 to put us up 100-92 last night, that was a BIG shot!!! I'm lovin' Tinsley's game this year.

A lot of guards can guard him. He bullied up A. Carter last night.

He also had 11 assists last night also. Man can produce

JayRedd
11-28-2007, 12:48 PM
Yes he does. But it isn't the pure number of shots he takes, it is the type of shots he gets.

I only want him to shoot 3's when he has to, when the shot clock is winding down, when the ball is moved around first and is passed to him and he's wide open.

Really the same thing for shots outside of about 15ft .

However, especially if he has a smaller point guard defending him, I have no problem with him posting up, using his strength to shot over his smaller defender. Also if the team doesn't have a real good shot-blocker, I have no problem with him shooting his little shots in the lane.

Yup.

Erik
11-28-2007, 01:08 PM
Pacers Tinsley taking over offense?

(http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071128/SPORTS04/711280443&theme=&template=printart)Indiana Pacers point guard Jamaal Tinsley leads the team in assists. That's not a surprise. Tinsley went into Tuesday's game at Denver second on the team in field goal attempts. That is a surprise. Tinsley said the Pacers coaching staff has encouraged him to be aggressive with the ball. "I'm getting the ball more in transition and I'm able to create for myself more," said Tinsley, who would rather score only 10 points per game in exchange for four more victories. "Teams aren't used to seeing me get so deep in the paint and me looking for my shots." In 10 games, Tinsley has attempted at least 10 shots. He has taken 189 shots this season, second on the team to forward Danny Granger's 195. He routinely talks to assistant Lester Conner, who played point guard during his career, about his shot selection. -- Indy Star i just wish that he had greater expectations for this team, i think we can win more than that.:D

Trader Joe
11-28-2007, 01:16 PM
I love all of the Tins quotes I have heard this season. He seems to have taken over for JO as the mouthpiece of the team to the media. I'm loving it.

CableKC
11-28-2007, 01:46 PM
I think that most of us can agree that Tinsley should be a situational shooter.....as in...when the right situation presents itself to Tinsley where he has the "offensive advantage"...like when he is able to bully his way into the post and back his defender down for his shot or he is left absolutely wide open and set for his shot.

But I wonder if this could be a vailed attempt by him at telling the rest of the team to step up on the offensive end ( hint hint to Dunleavy ).

I expect that when we are 100% healthy ( which means JONeal and Ike return ) and players like Dunleavy and ( at times ) Shawne become more aggressive on the offensive end ( instead of being passive ), then Tinsley will have far more scoring options to dish it out to.

Anthem
11-28-2007, 02:42 PM
Haven't looked at his season stats, but it seems like he's been rebounding better than usual, which is nice.

Trader Joe
11-28-2007, 02:47 PM
Haven't looked at his season stats, but it seems like he's been rebounding better than usual, which is nice.

He is averaging 4 boards a game. Which I think is a one or one and a half boards above his career average.

bellisimo
11-28-2007, 03:01 PM
I dunno about you guys but his post up play has brought back memories of Mark Jackson - the way he's shooting the treys also resembles just a little bit...

JayRedd
11-28-2007, 03:16 PM
Haven't looked at his season stats, but it seems like he's been rebounding better than usual, which is nice.

He's averaging 4.5 boards per game right now, one more than his career average of 3.5. Somewhat notable though is that he was only averaging 3.3 per until he came up with 17 over the last two games. Since these two games were clear aberrations, I'm not sure we actually get any statistical insight from such a small sample size. Check back January 1 and we'll see.

Evan_The_Dude
11-28-2007, 03:56 PM
I dunno about you guys but his post up play has brought back memories of Mark Jackson - the way he's shooting the treys also resembles just a little bit...

His entire game reminds me of Mark Jackson. Of course Tinsley is asked to shoot a whole hell of a lot more.

JayRedd
11-28-2007, 04:05 PM
His entire game reminds me of Mark Jackson. Of course Tinsley is asked to shoot a whole hell of a lot more.

Very little about Tinsley reminds me of Action Jackson.

timid
11-28-2007, 04:07 PM
He definitely handles the ball better than Jackson and thus can get to the hole a lot easier than Jackson....

I love Tinsley's game......I love his street style because he's relentless....He doesn't back down from other guards and he has that brashness that I love in a player......

It gets him in trouble sometimes when he tries to force is own offense or tries to force passes but he sees the game like very few PG's do.......I'll take the bad with the good any day with him...