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BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 07:28 PM
:usa: PACER PRIDE WILL CARRY THE DAY!!! :usa:
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http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/IND.gif-VS-http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/DET.gif

Game Time Start: 7:00 pm Indiana Time (8:00 pm EDT)

Tonight's Projected Starting Matchups:
**Pacers**********Pistons
*********CENTER
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/austin_croshere.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/ben_wallace.jpg
Croshere (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/austin_croshere/index.html?nav=page)********Wallace (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ben_wallace/index.html?nav=page)
******POWER FORWARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jermaine_oneal.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/rasheed_wallace.jpg
**O'Neal (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jermaine_oneal/index.html?nav=page)*********Wallace (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/rasheed_wallace/index.html?nav=page)
******SMALL FORWARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/ron_artest.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/tayshaun_prince.jpg
**Artest (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ron_artest/index.html?nav=page)********Prince (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tayshaun_prince/index.html?nav=page)
******SHOOTING GUARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/reggie_miller.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/richard_hamilton.jpg
**Miller (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/reggie_miller/index.html?nav=page)********Hamilton (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/richard_hamilton/index.html?nav=page)
******POINT GUARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jamaal_tinsley.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/chauncey_billups.jpg
**Tinsley (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamaal_tinsley/index.html?nav=page)********Billups (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chauncey_billups/index.html?nav=page)


Pacers-Pistons Playoff Schedule: (All Indianapolis Times)
GAME****DAY**DATE**SITE**TIME*****RESULT
Game 1**Sat**5/22***IND***7 pm*****Pacers 78, Pistons 74 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040522/DETIND/boxscore.html)
Game 2**Mon**5/24***IND***7 pm*****Pistons 72, Pacers 67 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040524/DETIND/boxscore.html)
Game 3**Wed**5/26***DET***7:30 pm**Pistons 85, Pacers 78 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040526/INDDET/boxscore.html)
Game 4**Fri**5/28***DET***7 pm**** Pacers 83, Pistons 68 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040528/INDDET/boxscore.html)
Game 5**Sun**5/30***IND***7 pm*****--
Game 6**Tue**6/1****DET***7 pm*****--
Game 7**Thur*6/3****IND***7 pm*****--
* - If Necessary

Pacers-Heat 2nd Round Results:
GAME****DATE**SITE**RESULT
Game 1**5/6***IND***Pacers 94, Heat 81 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040506/MIAIND/boxscore.html)
Game 2**5/8***IND***Pacers 91, Heat 80 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040508/MIAIND/boxscore.html)
Game 3**5/10**MIA***Heat 94, Pacers 87 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040510/INDMIA/boxscore.html)
Game 4**5/12**MIA***Heat 100, Pacers 88 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040512/INDMIA/boxscore.html)
Game 5**5/15**IND***Pacers 94, Heat 83 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040515/MIAIND/boxscore.html)
Game 6**5/18**MIA***Pacers 73, Heat 70 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040518/INDMIA/boxscore.html)


Pacers-Celtics 1st Round Results:
GAME****DATE**SITE**RESULT
Game 1**4/17**IND***Pacers 104, Celtics 88 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040417/BOSIND/boxscore.html)
Game 2**4/20**IND***Pacers 103, Celtics 90 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040420/BOSIND/boxscore.html)
Game 3**4/23**BOS***Pacers 108, Celtics 85 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040423/INDBOS/boxscore.html)
Game 4**4/25**BOS***Pacers 90, Celtics 75 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040425/INDBOS/boxscore.html)

kerosene
05-30-2004, 07:45 PM
In response to the poll, I've been more than a few time and would go whenever I could if I lived in the area but logistics prevents it really. I enjoyed watching the race today aside from the rain delays.

Hicks
05-30-2004, 07:47 PM
I didn't see a second of the race; blacked out.

Shade
05-30-2004, 07:49 PM
Don't care about racing. Only care about the Pacers. :)

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 07:49 PM
I'm not a racing fan, but when I lived in Indy in the 80's I did go a couple of times with friends. It was fun - of course, a lot of the more interesting action was actually in the infield... :eek: :laugh:

able
05-30-2004, 07:50 PM
I didn't see a second of the race; blacked out.

LOL, think about it, I saw all 8+ hours of it, in London UK!

nasty system

Pacers on live to tonight, finally i get some value for my $ 85 a month!

UB most likely in a 30 minute delay, so I will be listening and looking on the puter tomorrow or so :)

kerosene
05-30-2004, 07:53 PM
Yeah, I've heard the whole experience of going to the race isn't what it used to be but yeah BC, it was a pretty fun time out there.

Shade
05-30-2004, 08:01 PM
Well, if we can stop with the Stephen A. Smith Pistons lovefest already :rolleyes:, let's start the f@#$ing game!!! :scream: :scream: :scream:

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:02 PM
Fire up the barbeque, guys...it's time to grill us up some Pistons!!! :devil: :pissed: :cool:

:boomer:

Shade
05-30-2004, 08:04 PM
I'm just warning you guys right now. I've been pent-up inside all day and if the Pacers lose, I may just blow a gasket. :scream:

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:05 PM
I'm just warning you guys right now. I've been pent-up inside all day and if the Pacers lose, I may just blow a gasket. :scream:

Breathe in, breathe out... :meditate: ;)

Shade
05-30-2004, 08:07 PM
I'm just warning you guys right now. I've been pent-up inside all day and if the Pacers lose, I may just blow a gasket. :scream:

Breathe in, breathe out... :meditate: ;)

I'll breathe in, but no friggin' way I'm breathin' out. Too much work. :mad: ;)

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:10 PM
That fall by JO on the dunk attempt made me cringe a little....

:pistons: 4
:pacers: 2

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:14 PM
Geez, what's with both teams - don't they know they're only supposed to shoot in the 30% range? ;)

(Pacers are shooting 60%, Pistons are shooting 70%! :eek: )

:pistons: 15
:pacers: 13

Play-by-Play
(6:13) [IND] Team Timeout: Regular
(6:25) [DET 15-13] Billups Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS)
(6:40) [IND 13-13] Artest Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Tinsley (4 AST)
(7:01) [DET 13-10] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Billups (4 AST)
(7:20) [IND 10-11] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Miller (1 AST)
(7:33) [IND] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(7:35) [IND] Croshere Jump Shot: Missed
(7:41) [IND] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(7:42) [DET] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Missed
(8:02) [IND] Artest Foul: Loose Ball (1 PF)
(8:02) [DET] B. Wallace Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(8:02) [IND] Tinsley Jump Shot: Missed
(8:17) [DET 11-8] R. Wallace Fade Away: Made (4 PTS)
(8:42) [IND 8-9] O'Neal Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Tinsley (3 AST)
(9:04) [DET 9-6] Hamilton Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Billups (3 AST)

kerosene
05-30-2004, 08:18 PM
Rasheed is en fuego so far :o

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:22 PM
Tins with the block, then tripped up by Billups afterwards? Punk move, Chauncey! :pissed:

:pistons: 17
:pacers: 13

Play-by-Play
(4:13) [DET] Team Timeout: Regular
(4:17) [DET] Prince Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(4:20) [IND] Croshere Layup Shot: Missed Block: Prince (1 BLK)
(4:34) [DET] Billups Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(4:34) [IND] O'Neal Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(4:36) [DET] Billups Jump Shot: Missed Block: Tinsley (1 BLK)
(4:58) [DET] B. Wallace Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(5:00) [IND] Miller Jump Shot: Missed Block: Hamilton (1 BLK)
(5:24) [DET 17-13] Hamilton Layup Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(5:29) [IND] Croshere Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: R. Wallace (1 ST)
(5:37) [DET] Billups Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(5:41) [IND] Artest Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(5:42) [IND] Artest Jump Shot: Missed
(5:50) [DET] Billups Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: Croshere (1 ST)
(5:58) [DET] R. Wallace Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)

kerosene
05-30-2004, 08:23 PM
Two bounce by Tins and Cro can't hit. Not good.

That trip was ridiculous.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:26 PM
LOL at the banter between Reggie and ref Steve Javie:

Reggie - "If he can hold, I can hold. We're the same player"

Javie - "Yeah, but he's a lot younger" :rolleyes:

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:28 PM
Tins heading for the locker room to get worked on by the trainer... :(

:pistons: 21
:pacers: 17

Did you see Big Ben drag Foster across the floor on that scramble for the loose ball? :o

zxc
05-30-2004, 08:32 PM
Well this was a pretty awful first quarter. Gotta get it together quick pacers =\

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 08:32 PM
Awful first quarter by the Pacers.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:33 PM
End of the 1st Quarter:

:pistons: 25
:pacers: 17

Play-by-Play
(0:00) End Period
(0:00) [IND] Team Rebound
(0:00) [IND] Artest Jump Shot: Missed
(0:06) [DET 25-17] Hamilton Free Throw 2 of 2 (6 PTS)
(0:06) [DET] Campbell Substitution replaced by Ham
(0:06) [IND] Jones Substitution replaced by Miller
(0:06) [DET 24-17] Hamilton Free Throw 1 of 2 (5 PTS)
(0:06) [IND] Jones Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:25) [DET] Hunter Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:27) [IND] Foster Layup Shot: Missed Block: B. Wallace (2 BLK)
(0:34) [DET] Hunter Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:42) [DET 23-17] Williamson Hook Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: B. Wallace (1 AST
(0:57) Jump Ball Foster vs B. Wallace
(0:57) [DET] Prince Substitution replaced by Williamson
(0:57) [DET] Team Rebound

FIRST QUARTER TEAM STATISTICS
----------------------Pistons--------Pacers
FG%--------------------55.6----------38.1
3PT%-------------------50.0----------16.7
FT%-------------------100.0-----------0
Fast Break Pts----------4-------------2
Turnovers---------------2-------------1
Pts in the Paint-------10-------------6
Unanswered Pts----------7-------------4
Biggest Lead------------8-------------2

kerosene
05-30-2004, 08:33 PM
Don't like the looks of this so far. Lots of time left but the P's have to get it together NOW.

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 08:36 PM
At least I still have power so I can see this game.

These tornadoes close by are more important than this game so I won't get too mad/glad tonight.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:39 PM
In the game for the Pacers: Foster, Al, Ron, Freddie, AJ

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 08:39 PM
The Pacers are looking like IU......and that's not a compliment.

Shot selection right now is awful. Way too many three pointers.

Go inside, get to the line Indiana.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:41 PM
JB in now for Ron - Pistons have their starters out there

JB with the rejection!

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:44 PM
Getting hard to score in the post again with no outside shooting threat...

:pistons: 25
:pacers: 21

Play-by-Play
(8:49) Timeout: Official
(8:49) [DET] Billups Turnover: Lost Ball (3 TO) Steal: Johnson (1 ST)
(8:54) [DET] Campbell Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(8:55) [IND] Harrington Layup Shot: Missed
(9:11) [IND] Jones Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:13) [DET] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Missed
(9:29) [IND] Harrington Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(9:36) [DET] Prince Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(9:38) [IND] Harrington Layup Shot: Missed
(9:43) [IND] Johnson Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(9:45) [DET] Williamson Layup Shot: Missed Block: Bender (1 BLK)
(9:56) [DET] Hunter Substitution replaced by Prince
(9:56) [DET] Hamilton Substitution replaced by R. Wallace
(9:56) [DET] B. Wallace Substitution replaced by Billups
(9:56) [IND] Artest Substitution replaced by Bender

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 08:47 PM
Only down one now...

Freddie with the three

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:49 PM
Boom Baby!!! Freddie with back-to-back 3s!!! :cool:

:pacers: 27
:pistons: 27



JB!!!! What a terrible pass! :mad:

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 08:50 PM
Damnit Bender!!!!

TWO AWFUL PASSES BACK TO BACK!!!!!!!

TMJ31
05-30-2004, 08:51 PM
JB has that 'deer in headlights' look going on awful strong right now...

less jb, more reg plz!

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 08:54 PM
In the game now for the Pacers: Cro, JO, Ron, Freddie, AJ

Tins is back in for AJ! :) Reg in too

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 08:54 PM
I see Bender has been taken out of the game after the timeout.

Good decision.

I hope Bender's two awful passes didn't kill the mojo we had, since that second turnover really, really hurt.

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 08:59 PM
Down 2, a stop would be really great right here.

Detroit's taking a timeout.....hopefully we can get that stop after the break.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:00 PM
Tins makes something good happen right away... :)

:pistons: 33
:pacers: 31

Play-by-Play
(3:47) [DET] Team Timeout: Regular
(3:53) [IND 31-33] Tinsley Free Throw 2 of 2 (4 PTS)
(3:53) [DET] Hunter Substitution replaced by James
(3:53) [IND 30-33] Tinsley Free Throw 1 of 2 (3 PTS)
(3:53) [DET] Hunter Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(3:55) [DET] Williamson Turnover: Lost Ball Out of Bounds (1 TO)
(4:11) [IND 29-33] Artest Free Throw 2 of 2 (9 PTS)
(4:11) [DET] R. Wallace Substitution replaced by Williamson
(4:11) [IND 28-33] Artest Free Throw 1 of 2 (8 PTS)
(4:11) [DET] R. Wallace Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(4:19) [IND] Miller Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(4:20) [IND] Croshere Layup Shot: Missed
(4:26) [IND] Croshere Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(4:27) [IND] Artest Jump Shot: Missed
(4:53) [DET 33-27] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Made (11 PTS)

waterjater
05-30-2004, 09:02 PM
We need to start scoring. The scoring is too low and to the Pistons advantage right now.

And we've got to keep our turnovers under 12 for the game. Too many thus far!!

Getting nervous!

Water

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:03 PM
JO with the monster dunk, then Tins with the nice fast break pass to Ron! :cool:

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:06 PM
That was a BS call on Reg! :mad: :bs:

:pistons: 38
:pacers: 35

waterjater
05-30-2004, 09:06 PM
Damnit Reg!! make the shot, don't try and draw the foul


The shot is more impoortant~!!!!!

waterjater
05-30-2004, 09:09 PM
Reggie is killing us!! Losing his cool and trying to draw stupid fouls and Rip is taking him to school!!!

And now a GD tech!

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:09 PM
Rip Hamilton is scorching us again!

:pistons: 40
:pacers: 35



T called on Reg during the timeout

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 09:11 PM
And now Reggie misses a free throw.

We look fantastic........dripping with sarcasm....

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 09:12 PM
That is pathetic that we could not score on that fast break.

Our shot section has just been AWFUL.

Pathetic first half.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:12 PM
Halftime Score:

:pistons: 41
:pacers: 36

Play-by-Play
(0:00) End Period
(0:00) [DET] James Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:01) [IND] Tinsley Jump Shot: Missed
(0:05) [IND] Miller Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(0:06) [DET] Hamilton Jump Shot: Missed
(0:28) [DET] Okur Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:30) [IND] Miller Layup Shot: Missed Block: Prince (2 BLK)
(0:33) [DET] James Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Miller (1 ST)
(0:48) [IND 36-41] Miller Free Throw 2 of 2 (5 PTS)
(0:48) [DET] Campbell Substitution replaced by Okur
(0:48) [IND] Team Rebound
(0:48) [IND] Miller Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(0:48) [DET] Campbell Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(0:53) [DET 41-35] Hamilton Free Throw Technical (19 PTS)
(0:53) [IND] Miller Foul: Technical (2 PF)

TMJ31
05-30-2004, 09:12 PM
I'm waiting for Ashton Kutcher to come out and yell "You got punkd" to Reggie

kerosene
05-30-2004, 09:13 PM
halftime jinx on hamilton :idea:

pacers d looked good there aside from letting hamilton get his. have to play better on offense though. just killing themselves when they force a to then give it away on a to of their own or a crappy shot.

efx
05-30-2004, 09:14 PM
It's only a 5 point game. They've proven before that they can turn it around in the second half. If they are really playing that ****** we should be down by more than this.

kerosene
05-30-2004, 09:14 PM
overall, i'm not pleased. :mad:

zxc
05-30-2004, 09:15 PM
Looks like we decide to play like crap second halves of quarters here. Trailing at half at home noone really playing that well for us.. not looking good.

Wouldn't have thought Hamilton would be the best player in this series =\

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:16 PM
HALFTIME TEAM STATISTICS
----------------------Pistons--------Pacers
FG%--------------------42.1----------32.4
3PT%-------------------40.0----------25.0
FT%-------------------100.0----------90.0
Fast Break Pts----------7-------------6
Turnovers---------------8-------------6
Pts in the Paint-------16------------10
Unanswered Pts----------6-------------3
Biggest Lead------------8-------------2

sweabs
05-30-2004, 09:16 PM
We need to get Jermaine more involved on offense, and I would like to see Reggie/Ron get some more shots.

And hey - why not get Freddie some more PT? He looks like he is feeling it tonight! Come on guys - gotta grit down here.

PistonsDynasty
05-30-2004, 09:17 PM
I know you guys heard the shot clock go off with 2 SECONDS LEFT ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats the 4th or 5th time the clock guy screwed the Pistons this series.

All in all the refs are pretty decent. They are letting the guys play for a chance.

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 09:18 PM
For a game being labled as the biggest in the franchise's history, they are not playing like it at all.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:21 PM
Couple of quick things:

[*:cabc0ce730] Hamilton and Sheed lighting it up from the field
[*:cabc0ce730] JO playing probably about as well as he can considering the knee injury
[*:cabc0ce730] Cro, Al not stepping it up in this game so far
[*:cabc0ce730] Reg seems like he's forcing things a bit
[*:cabc0ce730] Pistons back to abusing the Pacers in the paint on defense, without getting any fouls called

waterjater
05-30-2004, 09:22 PM
This looks like the same Pacer team that's lost 2 of its last 3 games.

Our best offensive player was Fred Jones and the rest seemed to be clueless! At least O'neal can block shots!

We need to BRING IT in the 2nd half or our season is OVER!

Water

kerosene
05-30-2004, 09:27 PM
Those two Bender TOs killed us too. He was useless out there aside from the block. BC's points are dead on. Pacers have to find a way.

I changed my shirt. I'm superstitious like that (had the Miami game 6 shirt on before). heh.

jfisher
05-30-2004, 09:28 PM
I really want to thank you guys for doing this-especiall you BC. I'm in Rochester, NY again at my brother in laws house with NO CABLE TV!!! Also I've tried to connect to various internet radio staions- of course to no avail. AND, I even sat in our van in the driveway trying to pick up ANYTHING out of Detroit on AM radio, again with no luck.....so seriously, thanx for your efforts here-John

waterjater
05-30-2004, 09:28 PM
RIP can get his points as long as we shut down everyone else and The Pacers hit some damn shots!

Where's Joey Crawford?!? We are back to refs who ignore all the contact in the paint by the "foul every play" Pistons! Joey doesn't stand for it and makes them play defense CORRECTLY with their feet. Which makes Detroit a good vs. great defense!

We need to have fun again! That first half was not fun with players getting frustrated, especially Reggie. I HATE when he trys to draw the foul! JUST MAKE THE SHOT!

Water

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:31 PM
I really want to thank you guys for doing this-especiall you BC. I'm in Rochester, NY again at my brother in laws house with NO CABLE TV!!! Also I've tried to connect to various internet radio staions- of course to no avail. AND, I even sat in our van in the driveway trying to pick up ANYTHING out of Detroit on AM radio, again with no luck.....so seriously, thanx for your efforts here-John

Glad to help you cheer on the Pacers, john, even if just by following along purely by game thread! :)

JO starts off the 2nd half with a score!

And then Rip rips them again...

:pistons: 43
:pacers: 38

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:38 PM
Still feels like we're treading water out here. Getting baskets, but we need to make stops too

:pistons: 49
:pacers: 42

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:39 PM
Technical called on JO? :confused:

After Sheed pulled all that ***** in the previous games without being T'd up? :mad: :mad: :censor:

Nice of Javie to wait to see if the Pistons were going to score on the break before calling the T on JO... :pissed:

waterjater
05-30-2004, 09:41 PM
SOMEBODY KNOCK THE ***** out of HAMILTON ON A PICK!!

SOMEBODY TELL JAVIE TO RETIRE! HE SUCKS!

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 09:41 PM
That technical on JO is BS!!!!

JO clearly gets knocked around on the offensive end the series before, and then gets Td up for telling the official that they missed YET another foul.

This is why NBA officiating is the WORST out of all the major sports.

I really wish the Pacers would play like this game means something to them.

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 09:43 PM
And that's BS that Javie is allowing the Pistons the opportunity to score on a fast break.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO CALL A TECHNICAL, THEN DAMNIT CALL IT!!!

That's BIAS officiating if you are not going to call it when you want to.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:45 PM
In the game for the Pacers: Croshere, JO, Ron, Reg, Tins

Hamilton scores again, gets the foul call... :banghead:

:pistons: 53
:pacers: 42

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 09:45 PM
This is such an embarassing effort by the Pacers.

I'm so disgusted by this team tonight!!!!!

They do not dererve anything by the way they are playing.

waterjater
05-30-2004, 09:46 PM
GET TINSLEY OUT OF THE F-ing game. HE CAN"T PLAY TONIGHT@!@!!!!

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:47 PM
AJ in for Tins, out there now with JO, Al, Ron, Freddie

Millerartest
05-30-2004, 09:50 PM
Carlisle way too slow on making adjustments on Rip. If the offense stays this stagnant with Johnson in the game Anderson should be brought in.

zxc
05-30-2004, 09:50 PM
Well that's the season after sheeds 3. Nice showing Pacers... :unimpressed:

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:51 PM
So does Kenny get any PT now? Tins clearly still injured, hell not sure Kenny can hurt us more than we're already doing anyway

:pistons: 58
:pacers: 43

4:17 to go in the 3rd

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:52 PM
And now a foul on JO when it looked like Detroit was over the back... :unimpressed:

:pistons: 59
:pacers: 45

Play-by-Play
(2:55) [DET] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:56) [DET] Williamson Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(2:58) [IND] Harrington Layup Shot: Missed Block: R. Wallace (3 BLK)
(3:09) [DET] Hamilton Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Jones (1 ST)
(3:33) [IND 45-59] Jones Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Johnson (2 AST)
(3:57) [IND] O'Neal Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(3:58) [DET] B. Wallace Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(3:58) [DET 59-43] B. Wallace Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(3:58) [IND] Artest Foul: Loose Ball (3 PF)
(3:58) [DET] Team Rebound
(3:59) [IND] Jones Jump Shot: Missed
(4:17) [IND] Team Timeout: Short
(4:20) [DET 58-43] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Made (14 PTS) Assist: Hamilton (2 AST)
(4:42) [DET] Billups Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(4:44) [IND] Artest Layup Shot: Missed Block: R. Wallace (2 BLK)

kerosene
05-30-2004, 09:54 PM
The Pacers look lost out there. Just lost.

Millerartest
05-30-2004, 09:54 PM
This is the difference between a young team and a team in their prime. Too bad our vets get little to no chance.

TMJ31
05-30-2004, 09:55 PM
yea this is pretty embarassing

but lets not count us out quite yet

JOneal7
05-30-2004, 09:56 PM
looks like we don't have the magic tonight fellas :(..
*sigh*
Rip hamilton is just killing us. Oh well. I'm off for the night. I can't stand to read the piston fans over here. Night yall

waterjater
05-30-2004, 09:57 PM
Say goodnight to the Pacers! It's been fun.

I'd put in AJ, Bender, Jones, Artest, and Harrington and see what happens. Maybe Croshere if Bender or Harrington continue sucking.

Without a healthy JO and Tinsley we are finished. And it is a damn shame, JO didn't deserve this fate nor did our team or its fans.

But, when Javie shows up and ignores all the Pistons contact, I know we aren't going to win.

Our team looks awful tonight.

Water

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 09:57 PM
30 pts for Hamilton - and the 3rd quarter isn't even over...

kerosene
05-30-2004, 09:59 PM
I've said it before, but Hamilton is having "that series". The one where he "makes it" in the national basketball psyche.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:00 PM
AJ got leveled on the pick by Williamson :eek:

:pistons: 60
:pacers: 49

TMJ31
05-30-2004, 10:03 PM
Way to close out!

Boom Freddie!

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:04 PM
Boom Baby!!! Freddie with the 3 again! :pepper:

End of the 3rd quarter:

:pistons: 62
:pacers: 53

Play-by-Play
(0:00) End Period
(0:02) [IND] Artest Rebound (Off:2 Def:8)
(0:03) [DET] Hamilton Jump Shot: Missed
(0:24) [IND 53-62] Jones Jump Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Harrington (1 AST)
(0:33) [IND] Artest Rebound (Off:2 Def:7)
(0:34) [DET] Williamson Layup Shot: Missed
(0:50) [IND 50-62] Harrington Free Throw 2 of 2 (5 PTS)
(0:50) [IND] Team Rebound
(0:50) [IND] Harrington Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(0:50) [DET] Okur Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:50) [IND] Harrington Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(0:51) [IND] Harrington Layup Shot: Missed Block: B. Wallace (4 BLK)
(0:53) [IND] Harrington Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(0:54) [IND] Artest Jump Shot: Missed
(1:10) [DET 62-49] Williamson Free Throw 2 of 2 (5 PTS)

TMJ31
05-30-2004, 10:04 PM
Single digits now--

We have the momentum back... the first 3-5 minutes of this quarter are absolutely CRUCIAL

Shade
05-30-2004, 10:05 PM
More false hope from the masters at the game. We will lose. Book it.

kerosene
05-30-2004, 10:06 PM
Keep getting the ball to Freddie, he seems to be the only young guy who is unfazed right now.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:07 PM
TEAM STATISTICS AFTER 3 QUARTERS
----------------------Pistons--------Pacers
FG%--------------------37.5----------33.3
3PT%-------------------33.3----------23.5
FT%--------------------89.5----------68.8
Fast Break Pts----------9-------------6
Turnovers--------------11-------------8
Pts in the Paint-------18------------14
Unanswered Pts----------3-------------5
Biggest Lead-----------16-------------2

TMJ31
05-30-2004, 10:10 PM
Yea Bench mob!!

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:10 PM
AJ to Al again on the break! Timeout Detroit!

:pistons: 64
:pacers: 57

Play-by-Play
(10:17) [DET] Team Timeout: Regular
(10:19) [IND 57-64] Harrington Layup Shot: Made (9 PTS) Assist: Johnson (4 AST)
(10:25) [IND] Artest Rebound (Off:2 Def:9)
(10:26) [DET] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Missed
(10:50) [DET] R. Wallace Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(10:51) [IND] Jones Jump Shot: Missed
(11:02) [IND] Harrington Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(11:03) [DET] Williamson Hook Shot: Missed
(11:28) [IND 55-64] Harrington Dunk Shot: Made (7 PTS) Assist: Johnson (3 AST)
(11:43) [DET 64-53] Hunter Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS

zxc
05-30-2004, 10:11 PM
:pray:

Shade
05-30-2004, 10:11 PM
The Pacers are employing what I've come to call "maximum disappointment." They'll make a run, get everyone's hopes back up, and lose the game.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:11 PM
:fingerscrossed: :fingerscrossed:

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:13 PM
The Pacers are employing what I've come to call "maximum disappointment." They'll make a run, get everyone's hopes back up, and lose the game.

*The role of IndyToad is now being played by Shade tonight* :rolleyes:

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:15 PM
Damn! Back to back 3 misses! :blush:

:pistons: 64
:pacers: 57


In the game: Cro, JO, Al, Freddie, AJ

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:17 PM
Freddie comes through again!

:pistons: 64
:pacers: 59

TMJ31
05-30-2004, 10:19 PM
blarghhhhh

zxc
05-30-2004, 10:20 PM
From 5 points to 9 in like 15 seconds.. sigh :(

Gonna be a long offseason.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:20 PM
Ugh, that was painful - Al gets his jumper blocked, Billups drains the jumper on the other end :(

:pistons: 68
:pacers: 59

Play-by-Play
(7:34) [IND] Team Timeout: Regular
(7:41) [DET 68-59] Billups Jump Shot: Made (7 PTS)
(7:46) [DET] B. Wallace Rebound (Off:2 Def:7)
(7:49) [IND] Harrington Jump Shot: Missed
(8:03) [DET 66-59] R. Wallace Free Throw 2 of 2 (16 PTS)
(8:03) [DET 65-59] R. Wallace Free Throw 1 of 2 (15 PTS)
(8:03) [IND] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (5 PF)
(8:22) [IND 59-64] Jones Jump Shot: Made (13 PTS)
(8:36) [IND] Johnson Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(8:37) [DET] Hamilton Jump Shot: Missed
(8:44) [IND] Artest Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(8:44) [DET] Hunter Substitution replaced by Billups
(8:44) [DET] Williamson Substitution replaced by Prince
(9:00) [DET] R. Wallace Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(9:01) [IND] Johnson Jump Shot: Missed

TMJ31
05-30-2004, 10:21 PM
We need a mini run here before the 5 minute mark

like Reg always says "give ourselves a chance to win"

waterjater
05-30-2004, 10:21 PM
The Pacers are employing what I've come to call "maximum disappointment." They'll make a run, get everyone's hopes back up, and lose the game.

Yep, it sure feels like it! Damn Two wide open 3's would've cut it to 1!

You need to have a lead on Detroit, because if you don't they just keep going to Rip and we can't hardly stop him. Those 3's would've been huge.

JO should sit down until about 1-2 minutes to go for his shot blocking ability at the end. We need offense and we need to push it and JO is WOUNDED!

Water

waterjater
05-30-2004, 10:22 PM
KEEP THE BENCH IN THE GAME!!!

fwpacerfan
05-30-2004, 10:22 PM
I thought after game 4 this team had the heart of a champion but they don't. They completely went away from what got them here and that dissappoints me tremendously.

waterjater
05-30-2004, 10:23 PM
Game over

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:23 PM
If Cro isn't hitting any shots, might as well get Foster in for rebounds

:pistons: 72
:pacers: 59

Play-by-Play
(5:47) [IND] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:49) [DET 72-59] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Made (18 PTS) Assist: Hamilton (3 AST)
(6:04) [DET] B. Wallace Rebound (Off:3 Def:8)
(6:05) [IND] Johnson Layup Shot: Missed
(6:14) [IND] Jones Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(6:15) [IND] Johnson Jump Shot: Missed
(6:39) [DET 70-59] Prince Layup Shot: Made (9 PTS)
(6:54) [DET] B. Wallace Rebound (Off:3 Def:7)
(6:57) [DET] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Missed Block: Croshere (1 BLK)
(7:19) [DET] R. Wallace Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(7:21) [IND] Artest Layup Shot: Missed Block: B. Wallace (5 BLK)
(7:34) [IND] Harrington Substitution replaced by Artest

waterjater
05-30-2004, 10:24 PM
BENCH GDit! OUR STARTERS CAN NOT WIN THIS GAME!

kerosene
05-30-2004, 10:24 PM
Turn out the lights.

zxc
05-30-2004, 10:25 PM
8-0 piston run after we get it within 5. They just the better team. :(

TMJ31
05-30-2004, 10:25 PM
We have 5 offensive possessions give or take a couple..

if they we score on at least 4 of them or so.. and make some stops, we have a chance...

but we will see... :neutral:

waterjater
05-30-2004, 10:26 PM
This is a repeat of Games 2 and 3. Drive the lane one on one and put up the shot to get blocked. Drive the lane....etc.

We stink tonight!!

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 10:28 PM
This is embarassing. It upsets me that they play like such crap on a game labled as the biggest in the franchise history.

Way to represent guys.

Rick went with Tinsley WAY too long. He went with Reggie WAY too long. JB had those two stupid turnovers back to back which cost us a chance to actually take the lead in this game. Those two plays might have totally changed the game.

waterjater
05-30-2004, 10:28 PM
Where is our heart tonight! Corliss Williamson lays out AJ on a pick.

We should of set a pick so hard on RIP he couldn't see straight for the rest of the game. TOO SOFT!

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:29 PM
Wow, Rip has gone cold this quarter (0 pts) and we still can't catch up! :blush:

waterjater
05-30-2004, 10:30 PM
Sit tinsley down!

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 10:32 PM
Officiating has been so-so in this game.

These officials are hypocritical if they EVER call a PACER for going over the back on a rebound EVER again in this series since Detroit does that all the time, yet I've never seen them get called for that.

waterjater
05-30-2004, 10:33 PM
well... i do believe we can win game 6.

:)

Not without a healthy JO and Tinsley. We gave it a run, but I don't see it.

I hope they prove me wrong! Close out games are tough!

Water

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:34 PM
Sheed hits the fadeaway turnaround 3 over 2 Pacers...:banghead:

:pistons: 76
:pacers: 63

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 10:34 PM
I love how we also just give back the homecourt advantage.

Oh well, the Lakers are going to win the whole damn thing anyways. :unimpressed:

Southside_Pacer
05-30-2004, 10:36 PM
Our free throw shooting has sucked for a long time too.

In the offseason I really hope they practice that a lot. We can all see why Larry Bird is going to probably draft a guy who can SHOOT the ball because our lack of it is on display.

It's also pathetic that Reggie refuses to SHOOT THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!

This team is UTTERLY DISGUSTING TONIGHT!!!!!! So embarassing. I'm so pissed at them all.

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:37 PM
I think Reg had visions of Prince possibly blocking his shot on that last possession, kept passing up the jumper....

:pistons: 79
:pacers: 63

TMJ31
05-30-2004, 10:38 PM
I will say this... If God himself came to me in a vision and said to me "If you cut off your left arm right now with a dull knife, the Pacers will win the NBA Finals" I would do it...

But right now, I just don't feel like I even know this team. Sure they played with heart in ONE of the first 5 games, and managed to win two...

Yea of course I hope they win game 6 and 7... But if they don't... well... thats their own damn problem, they don't deserve it.

Shade
05-30-2004, 10:38 PM
Game over

Correction - SEASON over

waterjater
05-30-2004, 10:39 PM
why and the FLIP did we put the starters back in?? Two injured players, A Miller that won't shoot and a disappearing Artest and Croshere???

Go figure! I would've rested both Tinsley and O'neal in the 4th since it was obvious we weren't going to win. Detroit's in your face, foul on every play defense, is generating ZERO free throws for us and they are getting to the line. Obvious to me we weren't going to win.

So, why not give the bench who brought us back into the game a chance to win it?!?


Oneal can barely walk! and is jeopardizing his future!

Water

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:39 PM
JO sitting out the last minutes and a half of the game, just as well...

Shade
05-30-2004, 10:40 PM
you gotta believe :) and biz!

go pacers. see ya tuesday.

Whole lot of good that's done the last several years. :unimpressed:

waterjater
05-30-2004, 10:40 PM
Game over

Correction - SEASON over

Probably right with Tinsley and JO on one leg each!

Water

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:41 PM
Getting dunked on by Darvin F-ing Ham! :mad:

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:42 PM
Final Score: :dead:

:pistons: 83
:pacers: 65

JOneal7
05-30-2004, 10:44 PM
wow get it down 2 5 then lose it. :(
Pistons played a great series. Sadly, this things over in 6 :(

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:47 PM
FINAL TEAM STATISTICS
----------------------Pistons--------Pacers
FG%--------------------41.4----------32.9
3PT%-------------------40.0----------19.0
FT%--------------------91.3----------61.1
Fast Break Pts---------11-------------8
Turnovers--------------15------------10
Pts in the Paint-------26------------22
Unanswered Pts----------2-------------2
Biggest Lead-----------18-------------2

BostonConnection
05-30-2004, 10:48 PM
http://scores.nba.com/games/20040530/DETIND/boxscoreprint.html

PistonsDynasty
05-30-2004, 10:53 PM
Great game guys. I know you guys are p*ssed but I'm not going to rub it in yall faces.

Great game, no matter who wins this series I hope they beat the FAKERS!!!!!!!!

sweabs
05-30-2004, 11:02 PM
Great game guys. I know you guys are p*ssed but I'm not going to rub it in yall faces.

Great game, no matter who wins this series I hope they beat the FAKERS!!!!!!!!

Man I know I'm a little peeved right now - but why are you always here right after you win a game...but that all of a sudden changes when you lose?

But you're right about the comment - please just not the Lakers.

PistonsDynasty
05-30-2004, 11:04 PM
Great game guys. I know you guys are p*ssed but I'm not going to rub it in yall faces.

Great game, no matter who wins this series I hope they beat the FAKERS!!!!!!!!

Man I know I'm a little peeved right now - but why are you always here right after you win a game...but that all of a sudden changes when you lose?

But you're right about the comment - please just not the Lakers.

HOLY CRAP I was here after game 2, after game 5!!!! I was here dude!!

Shade
05-30-2004, 11:05 PM
Great game guys. I know you guys are p*ssed but I'm not going to rub it in yall faces.

Great game, no matter who wins this series I hope they beat the FAKERS!!!!!!!!

Actually, it was a HORRIBLE game. It was Game 5 in reverse.

And nobody will beat the Fakers. Stern won't allow it, and he has all the power.

Hicks
05-30-2004, 11:07 PM
no matter who wins this series I hope they beat the FAKERS!!!!!!!!

I'll give ya that much.