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SycamoreKen
11-16-2007, 12:22 AM
I pulled this out of the old thread in order to gauge interest in getting a game started. I can update this post to keep track of who has expressed interest. I have started the list with those that expressed interest on 10/8 to today. If you no longer have time, in other words you are afraid of :wolf2: :lynchmob: or :hang: , then let me know to remove your name.

This thread is ONLY TO EXPRESS INTEREST. We can sort out rules and such later. I would be happy to run the game. I would just need to chat with someone that has doen it before on the particulars. We will see where we are next week.

The following have expressed interest:

naturallystoned
Shade
bellisimo
Indy
Pig Nash
Lord Helmet
Chocolate Thunder53
Raskolnikov
The Toxic Advenger

Pig Nash
11-16-2007, 01:57 AM
send me a pm for the particulars if we garner enough interest.

Raskolnikov
11-16-2007, 08:53 AM
:wave:

Trader Joe
11-16-2007, 01:25 PM
Yep I'll still play.

bellisimo
11-16-2007, 06:20 PM
i'm lock-n-loaded - ready to hunt me some wolves ^_^

Chocolate_Thunder53
11-23-2007, 10:32 PM
I'm still in.

Natston
12-03-2007, 02:41 PM
Bum Pop

bellisimo
12-12-2007, 11:25 AM
alright - i'm the damn wolf...now lets play! :D

bellisimo
03-05-2008, 05:55 PM
a friendly BUMP!

the Pacers season is stinking up the joint...come join in on the fun that is the WOLF GAME!

Pig Nash
03-05-2008, 05:56 PM
where'd you find the thread, I've only got three pages worth of shout box now.

Hicks
03-05-2008, 05:57 PM
I might be up for it if we hammer out the details to prevent it from going to hell like it has before.

bellisimo
03-05-2008, 05:59 PM
where'd you find the thread, I've only got three pages worth of shout box now.

i googled it - it was on the archives and used my resurrecting powers to bring it back to life :D

*HINT HINT* I want to be an angel this time *HINT HINT*

Pig Nash
03-05-2008, 06:00 PM
I vote we banish the mayor position. It's an interesting twist but it creates a lot of the problem.

bellisimo
03-05-2008, 06:01 PM
I vote we banish the mayor position. It's an interesting twist but it creates a lot of the problem.

but that is where you have most of the interest and fun...without the mayor position how would the wolves outlast people?

Pig Nash
03-05-2008, 06:15 PM
The wolves outlast people with or without the mayor. The mayor favors the wolves too much if anything.

Hicks
03-05-2008, 06:16 PM
Maybe instead of humans vs. wolves, we should play it as Members vs Admins :devil:

Instead of being eaten, you get banned. :D

The goal is for the inmates to run the asylum. ;)

Pig Nash
03-05-2008, 06:17 PM
lol, but then we know who to vote for every time?

Pig Nash
03-05-2008, 06:17 PM
although the admins would probably just delete any votes for them.

Hicks
03-05-2008, 06:19 PM
Well, obviously it wouldn't be the real admins vs the real members, it'd be an overlap and of course pretend.

Hicks
03-05-2008, 06:19 PM
Or we could do players vs. player-coaches (the coaches secretly vote to cut a player each day).

bellisimo
03-05-2008, 06:23 PM
meh - no need to turn into Prison Break...

Pig Nash
03-05-2008, 06:26 PM
We have a version called TAG (the alien game) on another forum I frequent. You can play it with whatever.

bellisimo
03-05-2008, 06:32 PM
then lets make it like LOST

there are others...survivors...and the "rescuers"

Pig Nash
03-05-2008, 06:36 PM
eh, everyone would just get confused by the end of the second day.

bellisimo
03-05-2008, 06:37 PM
end of second day?
that is an improvement over the previous game...they were confused by day one ;)

Pig Nash
03-05-2008, 06:47 PM
(i was referencing the second season of lost)

Shade
03-05-2008, 08:08 PM
I'm still in.

The Toxic Avenger
03-05-2008, 08:52 PM
I'm not familiar... Please explain.

I'm guessing I'd be up for it but I honestly have NO idea what the heck is going on. Lost, Prison Break, Mayor, I'm so confused...

Pig Nash
03-05-2008, 11:41 PM
ok pretty simple. you have twenty or so players and one Game Master. the player is designated as wolf, seer, guardian angel, or a human. One of the players is also the mayor. There are two phases to the game. Night and Day. During the Night, wolves decide who to eat, the seer chooses who to see, and the angel chooses who to protect from being eaten. Seers "see" one person. The GM tells the seer what that role that player plays. If the Angel protects the player being eaten, then the person is saved. If not, the player dies. All of this is recapped by the Story in the "Morning." During the day, all of the players decide who is goin to be lynched. If it is a wolf, you are told. If not they don't change. The goal for the humans/the seer/the guardian angel is to kill all the wolves (four or five normally their identity is hidden obviously.) The goal for wolves is to outnumber the humans so they can take over the city. Any questions?

The Toxic Avenger
03-06-2008, 09:56 PM
ok pretty simple. you have twenty or so players and one Game Master. the player is designated as wolf, seer, guardian angel, or a human. One of the players is also the mayor. There are two phases to the game. Night and Day. During the Night, wolves decide who to eat, the seer chooses who to see, and the angel chooses who to protect from being eaten. Seers "see" one person. The GM tells the seer what that role that player plays. If the Angel protects the player being eaten, then the person is saved. If not, the player dies. All of this is recapped by the Story in the "Morning." During the day, all of the players decide who is goin to be lynched. If it is a wolf, you are told. If not they don't change. The goal for the humans/the seer/the guardian angel is to kill all the wolves (four or five normally their identity is hidden obviously.) The goal for wolves is to outnumber the humans so they can take over the city. Any questions?

So the wolves know ALL of the other wolves, the GM being the only other to know? And during the day everyone acts the fool hoping that a human will get lynched. I assuming wolves cast doubt on any seer who finds them and seers try to convince the others of who the wolves really are. Interesting... I'm in.

Pig Nash
03-07-2008, 12:03 AM
Very good Toxic Avenger, it takes some people till they die to figure it out.

SycamoreKen
03-07-2008, 12:07 AM
I updated the list with Toxic. I won't be able to go this time. School is way to much for me to add another commitment.

Pig Nash
03-07-2008, 01:43 AM
Alright, we're half there if Mal plays. Does anyone want to pm former players?

Robertmto
03-08-2008, 12:32 AM
ill play

Trader Joe
03-08-2008, 03:39 AM
I'll play.

Pig Nash
03-09-2008, 12:53 AM
Alright, that's twelve, getting there. We need some of those counters. Someone invite JayRedd, Newman8r, Kester, rcarey, etc.

And pig norton, he seems to do whatever i do.

sweabs
03-09-2008, 01:09 AM
I'm scared to try new things, though.

Pig Nash
03-09-2008, 01:27 AM
I swear it's fun as hell.

The Toxic Avenger
03-10-2008, 10:07 PM
PLUS... I'm sure we can incorporate some counting into the lynching... I would anyway.

Shade
03-10-2008, 11:30 PM
I do not don't not want to play.










Not.

Natston
03-13-2008, 04:56 AM
I'm still interested.

Trader Joe
05-27-2008, 05:50 PM
:bump:

I played Mafia a couple of nights ago and it brought back memories. Lets get this crackin'.

bellisimo
05-27-2008, 05:59 PM
make it happen!

Pig Nash
05-27-2008, 09:29 PM
GM and Natstoned run it:

Anthem
Shade
Belli
Indy
Toxic Avenger
Rasko
Hicks
Robertmto
Lord Helmet
Chocolate Thunder
Pig Nash

I'd really like 4 more for a 3 vs. 11 game.

Players from before:
Mourning
skyfire
gyron
Aw Heck
SoupIsGood

I'll pm them.

Anthem
05-27-2008, 09:37 PM
I'm in. Mr xkcd has convinced me.

Anthem
05-27-2008, 09:39 PM
Last time I played the whole thing broke down because of rule definitions. Have we defined those anywhere? Because I think that has to happen before the game starts, not after.

Pig Nash
05-27-2008, 09:42 PM
What we'll do;

14-17 players: 3 wolves
18-24 players: 4 wolves

There's one Angel, and one Seer. The angel and seer may not reveal their identities to anyone in the game ever. Dead players may not post in the thread or about the game in other threads, they can talk about it in pms with each other. Since there is no mayor, only a simple majority of the players must vote for one player. If the player with the most votes does not have a majority of the votes, the GM will narrow it down to the two players with the most votes and there will be a revote among members who did not vote, no changing your vote after this step. You can change it at any time before it gets narrowed down.

Any other issues or problems with the rules I've set up?

Trader Joe
05-27-2008, 09:46 PM
Alright lets make this happen! Good work Piggy!

Pig Nash
05-27-2008, 09:54 PM
just three more players before i start to set something up.

Major Cold
05-27-2008, 10:03 PM
I will play.

Shade
05-27-2008, 10:03 PM
I'm still in.

SoupIsGood
05-27-2008, 10:24 PM
I'm in.

Great job w/ the rules, PN.

Pig Nash
05-27-2008, 10:36 PM
sweet, that's 16

Pig Nash and Natstoned run it:

Hoop
Anthem
Shade
Belli
Indy
Toxic Avenger
Rasko
Hicks
Robertmto
Lord Helmet
Chocolate Thunder
SoupIsGood
intridcold
Suaveness
newman8r
Gyron

Trader Joe
05-27-2008, 10:40 PM
Maybe I'm an idiot, but who's GM?

Pig Nash
05-27-2008, 10:48 PM
you're not an idiot

i'm looking for one but i've got a few people in mind before i hand it out to someone already game for playing. and if we get two or three more players, I'll GM.

Trader Joe
05-27-2008, 10:49 PM
Ok, so there will be two GMs?

Pig Nash
05-27-2008, 10:50 PM
yeah, natstoned will write the story, and the GM will be in charge of the nuts and bolts. Who the wolves kill, who the seer sees, who the angel protects, and most importantly the voting.

Trader Joe
05-27-2008, 10:52 PM
Ok, one thing I can't remember from the last time we played, if you're the Angel can you protect yourself? The reason I ask is because when I played Mafia the other day they played the rule that the doctor could protect their self.

Pig Nash
05-27-2008, 10:54 PM
There isn't a rule against that, I don't think there'd be any objections. And if the angel protects the right person, there is no kill that night, they don't just change who to kill.

Trader Joe
05-27-2008, 10:55 PM
Yeah, ok that clears up my only concern.

Hoop
05-27-2008, 10:59 PM
I'll try it again, as long as nobody eats me. :-p

Had fun with one game before, one got totally screwed up.

:lynchmob:


:hang:

:rip:

Pig Nash
05-27-2008, 11:01 PM
alright that's fourteen, I just need one more so that I can GM

Natston
05-28-2008, 01:36 AM
yeah, natstoned will write the story, and the GM will be in charge of the nuts and bolts. Who the wolves kill, who the seer sees, who the angel protects, and most importantly the voting.

The hope is that I can write a story without knowledge of people's roles. That way..

No one can draw any conclusions or clues from the story.

Honestly it's the more enjoyable when more is going on...

Suaveness
05-28-2008, 02:35 AM
I'm in....I guess

N8R
05-28-2008, 04:16 AM
I think i will play...in fact I know I will. I just read the "Invite those counters" post and I enjoy the thought. Put my name down and we will see how it goes. I kinda feel like dying

bellisimo
05-28-2008, 04:21 AM
so we're finally going to have this going? about damn time!

Gyron
05-28-2008, 08:55 AM
I'm in.

Raskolnikov
05-28-2008, 10:09 AM
I can't believe this is happening...

Major Cold
05-28-2008, 02:43 PM
Well I have no expectations. It is like seeing Spiderman 3 without watching the previous 2. It is a good movie. :sad:

Pig Nash
05-28-2008, 02:49 PM
That's sixteen then! I'll GM, I'll be sending out pms to the different roles, which will be randomly assigned. We will have 5 special people and 11 regulars.

Major Cold
05-28-2008, 02:55 PM
Well I am eager to see how this is played online. It is confusing enough with a room full of Jr High students.

Trader Joe
05-28-2008, 03:43 PM
Whats our official start date then? And also will we be starting a new thread for the actual game?

Pig Nash
05-28-2008, 03:46 PM
I'm hoping we can start as soon as possible, I have sent out the roles, and Natstoned knows that we're ready to start as soon as he can write his story.

Since86
05-28-2008, 03:47 PM
Is the game closed?

If not room for another?

Pig Nash
05-28-2008, 03:52 PM
Yeah I'm sorry, I already sent the roles out and so you'd obviously be a human.

Since86
05-28-2008, 04:00 PM
no biggie

Gyron
05-28-2008, 04:08 PM
I can't wait to burn some hairy wolf ***. It'll be good to see those suckers swing from the gallows. They've beaten us almost every time.

Shade
05-28-2008, 05:03 PM
I can't wait to burn some hairy wolf ***. It'll be good to see those suckers swing from the gallows. They've beaten us almost every time.

Spoken like a true wolf.

Gyron
05-28-2008, 05:17 PM
Hey I was a wolf last time, don't look at me, I'm human this time.

Major Cold
05-28-2008, 05:17 PM
I am ready for this!!!!!

Raskolnikov
05-29-2008, 05:35 AM
Hey I was a wolf last time, don't look at me, I'm human this time.
Spoken like a true wolf.

So, there are 3 wolves and 13 humans, right? And out of the 13, 1 seer and 1 angel...?

Let the games begin....last time we were fooled by that cunning Fool, this time it will be different. Because he's not playing for starters. Also, it's a different game. Only thing that's the same is Gyron's wolfyness. Let's already hang him before the game even starts! :mob:

Gyron
05-29-2008, 08:44 AM
I love it when a plan comes together, LET's HANG HIM!!!!! GYRON HAS TO DIE!!!! umm, wait.....Maybe I shouldn't vote for that plan......Shade, why did you ask my neck size? Huh? No, I'm not sure which has more elasticity, cotton or hemp rope.....Why would you ask that? Oh, crap!

SoupIsGood
05-29-2008, 08:47 AM
I miss Fool. He was a great poster.



I can't wait to burn some hairy wolf ***.

:laugh:

Gyron
05-29-2008, 09:36 AM
Is that an earless wolf in your avatar SIG? Sure looks like it could be....

btowncolt
05-29-2008, 09:42 AM
So long as we can agree that whatever the rules are the beginning of the game, they stay that way all the way through (so we don't have a repeat of the incident that basically ruined this game for us) - I am in.

Raskolnikov
05-29-2008, 09:42 AM
Oh yeah, Soup's a wolf. That's already been established in the Counting Thread.

Gyron
05-29-2008, 09:56 AM
hmmmm..Wolf Soup. Sounds Delicious.

Trader Joe
05-29-2008, 11:41 AM
So long as we can agree that whatever the rules are the beginning of the game, they stay that way all the way through (so we don't have a repeat of the incident that basically ruined this game for us) - I am in.

Always a day late and a dollar short.


So when are we starting this puppy up?

SycamoreKen
05-29-2008, 02:11 PM
I'm looking forward to watching this unfold from the outside.

:lurk:

Gyron
05-29-2008, 02:59 PM
I can't wait....My Kettle is brewing for Wolf Soup. I can't believe I didn't think of that receipe before!

Pig Nash
05-30-2008, 12:09 AM
When Natstoned and I hammer out the details, he wants a mayor, I do not.

Trader Joe
05-30-2008, 12:29 AM
If we have a mayor it should just be a ceremonial position like the Queen of England.

SoupIsGood
05-30-2008, 12:35 AM
Agreed. What's the mayor really do anyhow?

SycamoreKen
05-30-2008, 12:40 AM
The mayor is a very important position if used because one side or the other can really have an advantage. I was just looking over the last game where the wolves won and the last vote for mayor sealed the game for the wolves since the mayor has the power to override the votes cast and lynch the person of their choosing.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/archive/index.php/t-23749-p-4.html

A big problem last game was that someone bailed out and did not finish the game. It did help the wolves, but it made the game more confusing. If you are going to play, plan to be active and see it through.

Oh yea, don't be too thin skinned or take it too seriously either. It stinks when feelings get hurt.

Raskolnikov
05-30-2008, 03:32 AM
Yeah, Ken, that was a real intense game. I still remember the shock that went through me when Fool posted that picture. The disappearance of Karmakillaz did make it harder for the humans in the end. I would suggest that if someone isn't playing, like not voting the first 2 times or so, that person's identity is revealed by the GM.

I like having a mayor. It gives more intrigue to the game. But the rules as to how to elect one, how to dethrone one and so on...should best be made abundantly clear before we start.

I also hope PM'ing is still allowed. That's part of what made last game so much fun.

bellisimo
05-30-2008, 04:55 AM
yea the lynching or the election of the mayor that was a big deal in the last game..if we can have that clarified - it'll be fine to have a mayor i suppose - it does make a bit more interesting

SoupIsGood
05-30-2008, 07:46 AM
Oh, I remember that. If I remember right, I was part of the original pack that pulled that off. Fool was genius.

Honestly, I don't really like having a mayor. For the wolves the strategy became all about becoming mayor, which I guess was OK, but sort of lame, too.

Anthem
05-30-2008, 10:41 AM
I like simple majority. The mayor rules always end in tears.

Shade
05-30-2008, 02:09 PM
Maybe we should hold a vote amongst the players concerning the potential presence of a mayor.

Major Cold
05-30-2008, 02:17 PM
no on mayor.

Gyron
05-30-2008, 02:20 PM
I vote no on proposition 4567383999387564839990303.

And no to the mayor as well.

Trader Joe
05-30-2008, 04:31 PM
Well we should figure something out quick cause I am fiending for some Wolf Game.

Trader Joe
05-30-2008, 07:03 PM
I'm re-reading the last wolf game right now very interesting stuff.

Pig Nash
05-30-2008, 07:07 PM
Nat stoned and I are hammering out the details, but I think I have a good way to keep the suspense going into the story, while not having a mayor.

Trader Joe
05-30-2008, 07:23 PM
Sweetness.

Pig Nash
05-30-2008, 07:48 PM
I'd like everyone in the game to please post in this thread to tell me that you are aware that we will be starting soon.

Trader Joe
05-30-2008, 07:51 PM
Howdy.

Raskolnikov
05-30-2008, 08:04 PM
Good to go

Anthem
05-30-2008, 08:19 PM
What if I don't want to?

Pig Nash
05-30-2008, 08:26 PM
Too bad, you just did.

Hicks
05-30-2008, 08:53 PM
Shoot me a PM when we're ready (immediately) to start. :)

N8R
05-30-2008, 09:21 PM
I am here and good to go...I think

SoupIsGood
05-30-2008, 09:30 PM
Hicks is playing? Nice.

I'm ready.

Major Cold
05-30-2008, 09:35 PM
HEY THERE LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD

Hoop
05-30-2008, 09:39 PM
HEY THERE LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD
You sure are looking good

Pig Nash
05-30-2008, 09:46 PM
Alright, the two players i had a question about were toxic avenger and chocolate thunder.

They have not responded, and I am sorry if they wanted to play but they are being swapped with since86 and btown.

Since86=Toxic Avenger
Btown=chocolate thunder

they have the same role, whether it be human/wolf/seer/angel that they would have if they had joined in those two's place.

SoupIsGood
05-30-2008, 10:05 PM
Good call. It's important to have active members in the game.

I am ready to catch me some wolves.

Anthem
05-30-2008, 11:19 PM
Let's get it on!



twss

bellisimo
05-31-2008, 12:48 AM
its 6:45am - just got home...wanted to make sure that i keep my spot on here...so yea - I'm ready baby!

Shade
05-31-2008, 02:46 AM
Let's rock this b!tch.

Robertmto
05-31-2008, 12:41 PM
Present

Suaveness
05-31-2008, 01:43 PM
Ready, though do we have our roles yet?

And I need the rules again...It's been awhile

btowncolt
05-31-2008, 02:41 PM
Pig nash sent me a PM telling me that I have inherited chocolate thunder's role as a giant douche - is that a new type of character for this game?

SycamoreKen
05-31-2008, 03:14 PM
No, I think he just wanted your character to feel as real for you as possible.

Gyron
05-31-2008, 03:36 PM
hola

Trader Joe
05-31-2008, 04:11 PM
Ready, though do we have our roles yet?

And I need the rules again...It's been awhile

I think Pig Nash wrote up a break down of the rules a while ago.

I was also wondering if the PMs had been sent out yet regarding roles...

Pig Nash
05-31-2008, 04:11 PM
If you did not receive a pm explicitly telling you that you were a wolf/seer/angel, you are a normal human.

DISCLAIMER!!!!

So I've been a really good wolf and a pretty ok human, and the way this game is the most fun is to have neither side have too much of an advantage. So here are a few helpful hints for humans or:

HH4H's!

1.) Everyone lies. House teaches us this, but we never listen. A player may pm any other player anything he wants. A wolf can tell everyone he's human straight to their face and that's part of the fun.

2.) One way for the humans to play well is to play as a team. The seer is the most important part of this team, your PG if you will. He's the only one that can garner information that is %100 accurate. The seer may not reveal himself in the thread! This is not kosher, mostly because this is so risky that it's safe. If you reveal yourself in the thread, the wolves know they have to kill you, but the angel can protect you, so Seers can only tell that they are seers in pms. Wolves can also tell you they are the seer, or the angel, in order to protect themselves. You have to be the judge as to who is telling the truth, and who is not. Back to my point, the wolves start with a necessary advantage, they know who the humans are. It would be a game if they didn't, 13 humans could kill 3 wolves if the wolves didn't have some sort of extra power. The seer and the angel attempt to counter that, but it doesn't always work.

The short version of #2 is that you have to work together, but trust no one. :flirt:

3.) Voting patterns are a good way to figure out people's intentions. However, I was a wolf last time and voted for every wolf but one (Fool). Voting blocks turned out to be the downfall of the wolves 2 games ago and the new ones learned from their mistakes. I can only assume the wolves will have a similar if not more advanced voting technique so be wary of just voting for people who don't vote for each other with no other proof.

4.) If the Angel saves someone, that person is definitely human. However, he doesn't know who the angel is, and he doesn't know anything more than a normal human. The wolves in the last game, particularly Fool (who is a damn good wolf and one helpful thing I did for the humans this time was to not have him in the game, you're welcome), played on the town's faith in tyrion who had been saved by Robertmto, and got Tyrion to lead the humans astray.

5.) Now here are some of the new/old rules that need to be mentioned:

A. Old rule, still in effect: Dead people (ghosts) may not post in the game thread. Dead seers may not pm players the people who are wolves. The seer is only good as long as he is alive.

B. Old rule, not in effect for this game as a trial: The mayor tallies the votes and hands them in to the gm, he can choose to hang any player WHO WAS VOTED FOR (Shade!)

C. New Rule, replacing the mayor in this game will be me. I am impartial. I am the law. I will take the top two vote getters and "choose" who to kill by flipping a coin for how many votes that player has received; heads to kill, tails to spare. I kill who gets the most heads. For Example:

Player one has 5 votes.
Player two has 3 votes.

I flip a coin eight times. The first five go to player one, and the next three go to player two.
Heads, Heads, Tails, Tails, Tails, Tails, Heads, Heads, Heads. Player two is chosen to die. This will preserve the suspense of not knowing who will die, but eliminate the headaches of the mayor.

D. New rule, in line with this, if it is clear that you will be killed, do not post what you are (human, seer, angel, wolf) before the story shows up. This actually shouldn't matter because even if it's 8 to 2 voting there is a small chance you will survive to see the night.


Any questions?

Robertmto
05-31-2008, 05:40 PM
Lets playyyyyyyyyyyy

Pig Nash
05-31-2008, 05:49 PM
Patience, young padawan.

Robertmto
05-31-2008, 05:51 PM
Patience, young padawan.

u must be a wolf :devil:

Pig Nash
05-31-2008, 05:52 PM
Umm, I'm not playing. :P

SoupIsGood
05-31-2008, 07:33 PM
I am so ready!

Major Cold
05-31-2008, 07:54 PM
Ready...I work all day tommorrow out of the office. But I will check in if need be.

Anthem
05-31-2008, 09:16 PM
1.) Everyone lies. House teaches us this, but we never listen.
Great gravy, Pig, you're my freaking alter ego. Do you read Order of the Stick and Irregular Webcomic? Are you looking forward to Season Two of Burn Notice this summer?

Too weird.

Pig Nash
05-31-2008, 09:20 PM
i used to read order of the stick, I was intrigued by burn notice, but never watched it. So 88/100 ain't bad.

Anthem
05-31-2008, 09:47 PM
http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/

Shade
05-31-2008, 10:31 PM
Let's do this thing. :pimp:

Lord Helmet
06-01-2008, 02:08 AM
I'm ready.

Natston
06-01-2008, 02:09 AM
Let's do this thing. :pimp:
Salaried Job FTL!

Trader Joe
06-01-2008, 02:12 AM
House is the truth.

Raskolnikov
06-01-2008, 05:01 AM
I find rule 5C a bit weird. In the early stages of the game, it might not be a big problem, but in the end, the game will just be decided by chance. For instance, if there are 5 players left, 2 wolves and 3 humans, and the voting is 3 against 2, the coin still might flip the other way. That seems strange. I mean, if the humans have figured out who the wolves are, and they outnumber them, they should be able to get a certain win, right? Same if the wolves have outnumbered the humans.

Actually, even in the beginning the new rule could play a big role: the humans accidently killing a wolf, or a wolf escaping a probable hanging.

I just don't like the game being decided by chance. Every vote should really matter.

bellisimo
06-01-2008, 07:53 AM
i agree with Raskoo - this coin flip pretty much kills the whole concept of majority votes...i'd say its almost worse than a looney mayor :)

Pig Nash
06-01-2008, 09:51 AM
I think that it's a compromise between it always being the majority and there being some suspense. If anyone has a solution that doesn't involve the mayor, I'm open to it.

bellisimo
06-01-2008, 10:05 AM
well doesn't the suspense come from finding out the identity of the hanged victim?

Pig Nash
06-01-2008, 10:12 AM
Right, well not when people tell who they are.

Hicks
06-01-2008, 11:19 AM
I'd say the compromise should be only using the coin flip until X number of people are left alive.

Pig Nash
06-01-2008, 11:21 AM
That sounds about right, that it won't affect the game as much in the beginning but when there are 6/7 players left, it should be abandoned for a straight majority.

bellisimo
06-01-2008, 11:47 AM
so we start out with 4 wolves right? then i suggest we go ahead with the coin flip till we only have 8 players left

Raskolnikov
06-01-2008, 12:00 PM
I'd keep 5D, but completely abandon 5C.

I actually liked having a mayor...

Pig Nash
06-01-2008, 12:55 PM
3 wolves in this one.

SoupIsGood
06-01-2008, 12:56 PM
I actually liked having a mayor...

:wolf:

Pig Nash
06-01-2008, 12:58 PM
ok, i have another idea.

Naturally stoned does not know who the wolves are, who the seer is, or who the angel is. He is not a human, so cannot be killed. So he is a good candidate for mayor. The wolves can't hang him. People can't vote him out of office. I think that we should have nat stoned act as mayor until there are 6 players left when a simple majority would be it. Natstoned would have to agree to this, but I think it works.

bellisimo
06-01-2008, 01:05 PM
ok, i have another idea.

Naturally stoned does not know who the wolves are, who the seer is, or who the angel is. He is not a human, so cannot be killed. So he is a good candidate for mayor. The wolves can't hang him. People can't vote him out of office. I think that we should have nat stoned act as mayor until there are 6 players left when a simple majority would be it. Natstoned would have to agree to this, but I think it works.

sounds alright for me

SoupIsGood
06-01-2008, 01:12 PM
Yeah, I like that.

Trader Joe
06-01-2008, 01:29 PM
Yep I like that idea.

Raskolnikov
06-01-2008, 02:38 PM
I'm still not happy. To me it seems weird that a person who's not actually playing gets so much power in the game. Either you're completely in the game, or completely out. Nothing personal, natstoned.

You know, we could also not have a coin flip, an external mayor, a coin with a picture of an external mayor on it flip or an external coin flipping mayor, and just let the majority decide...although you know I'd prefer just having a regular mayor. And that's really not because I'm a wolf, Soup. It's because I genuinely like the concept of having a mayor in this game. As long as it's not Shade. Man, was he a looney mayor.

Sorry if I'm being a pain in the *** about this, but I think it's better to have this sorted out before the game starts. Of course the game may never actually start if this keeps going. But I'm enjoying myself already to be honest. Aren't you? :flirt:

Trader Joe
06-01-2008, 06:02 PM
:bump:

Just so we can keep this at the forefront of everyone's mind.

Natston
06-01-2008, 08:12 PM
I guess it could work...

Trader Joe
06-01-2008, 08:20 PM
Well we're probably not gonna be able to keep everybody happy. I think the NatStoned plan works best because at least the person in control is consistently the same person. Having a mayor just gives the wolves too much of an advantage if they take control of the office.

Nat, any idea of when we'll be getting this underway?

Natston
06-01-2008, 08:23 PM
Well we're probably not gonna be able to keep everybody happy. I think the NatStoned plan works best because at least the person in control is consistently the same person. Having a mayor just gives the wolves too much of an advantage if they take control of the office.

Nat, any idea of when we'll be getting this underway?

Good question. The story that was I working on did not have me as mayor... But I'll get something going pretty soon.

Anthem
06-01-2008, 11:24 PM
Why not try it Pig's way (with the caveat that simple majority wins below a certain threshold) first? We'll have time for several TWGs this summer. I'm ready to get this thing started.

Pig Nash
06-01-2008, 11:25 PM
The coin flip way or the nat stoned mayor way? They're both technically mine. I should trademark them.

Anthem
06-01-2008, 11:28 PM
So here's the crew:

Anthem
Belli
btown
Gyron
Hicks
Hoop
Indy
intridcold
Lord Helmet
newman8r
Rasko
Robertmto
Shade
Since86
SoupIsGood
Suaveness

Plus natstoned and Pig. Let's do this thing.

Anthem
06-01-2008, 11:30 PM
The coin flip way or the nat stoned mayor way? They're both technically mine. I should trademark them.
coin flip. It's a novel idea... I'm game for trying it and seeing how it goes.

I do like a limit, though. Three wolves = Simple majority below 7? 8?

EDIT: The more I think about it, though, the less I think it matters. It will be in the middle game that gaming the vote will be most effective. If we get down to 8 and have 3 wolves left, we're done anyway. I'm good with trying one game as a simple coin flip if you are.

Pig Nash
06-01-2008, 11:37 PM
I'm up for it.

N8R
06-01-2008, 11:39 PM
Let's just start this Biatch

bellisimo
06-02-2008, 03:17 AM
Let's just start this Biatch

qft!!!

Raskolnikov
06-02-2008, 04:50 AM
The coin flip way or the nat stoned mayor way? They're both technically mine. I should trademark them.
They're both lame.

But what the hell, we've waited long enough to get this thing started, so I say you and natstoned decide on something and we'll see how it pans out. Once again, if there are so many people against having a regular mayor, my proposition is to just let the majority rule.

Anthem
06-02-2008, 01:09 PM
I say you and natstoned decide on something and we'll see how it pans out. Once again, if there are so many people against having a regular mayor, my proposition is to just let the majority rule.
And I'm fine with that too. If we get down to a point where the wolves outnumber us, the game's over anyway.

Basically I'm fine with anything as long as we start soon.

Trader Joe
06-02-2008, 01:33 PM
Agreed. I'm open to whatever. Lets just light this firecracker.

Trader Joe
06-02-2008, 06:38 PM
:bump:

Major Cold
06-02-2008, 10:02 PM
what is going on?

Shade
06-02-2008, 11:14 PM
I'm cool with whatever we decide. As long as I get to kill Rasko for calling me loony.

I'll show you loony, you :censored:.

Pig Nash
06-02-2008, 11:31 PM
Nat is still writing the story.

Pig Nash
06-03-2008, 12:23 AM
Nat stoned has written himself in as the mayor, but we'll use the coin flip method to actually determine who he "decides."

And I've tweaked the method slightly.

The second player is only considered if he has received at least as many votes as the remaining number of wolves. For example:

16 players remaining, 3 wolves remaining:

Player A receives 8 votes
Player B, C, and D receive 2 votes

Player A is automatically killed.

Suaveness
06-03-2008, 12:56 AM
Quick question....how do we vote? In thread or through PM? And when do we vote?

Pig Nash
06-03-2008, 01:04 AM
in the thread, now. It's daytime.

N8R
06-03-2008, 01:27 AM
How long to we have to vote? How long is Daytime? And we can change our vote up until the vote ends correct?

Pig Nash
06-03-2008, 02:01 AM
Daytime doesn't have a time limit at this point, it'll max out at around two days if I can help it. You can change your vote until nat stoned stops the voting in the thread. He and I will discuss when we will stop it.

Raskolnikov
06-03-2008, 04:56 AM
Nat stoned has written himself in as the mayor, but we'll use the coin flip method to actually determine who he "decides."

And I've tweaked the method slightly.

The second player is only considered if he has received at least as many votes as the remaining number of wolves. For example:

16 players remaining, 3 wolves remaining:

Player A receives 8 votes
Player B, C, and D receive 2 votes

Player A is automatically killed.
Lol, so it's become a tweaked coin flipping mayor :-p

In any case, thanks for the great effort in setting up the game. Tonight, I will write my first story.

DisplacedKnick
06-03-2008, 10:05 AM
Woulda loved to play this (love storytelling) but I'm just gone way too much this time of year - you start a game in Aug/Sep or Dec/Jan let me know.

I'm looking forward to being an interested observor on this one.

Pig Nash
06-05-2008, 07:25 PM
I was thinking...

an addendum to the ghosts can't talk rule, any body who is dead instantly learns every special role in the game since as dead people, they can see souls?

That way if you give anything away, you're just a jackass instead of just trying to help with any theories you think that are correct.

Shade
06-05-2008, 07:28 PM
I was thinking...

an addendum to the ghosts can't talk rule, any body who is dead instantly learns every special role in the game since as dead people, they can see souls?

That way if you give anything away, you're just a jackass instead of just trying to help with any theories you think that are correct.

I'd like that, actually. Could make it more fun watching the game unfold.

Btw, is it too soon to sign up for the next game? :kickcan:

Pig Nash
06-05-2008, 07:31 PM
Nope, I think this thread should be the all purpose thread for setting up new games and discussing rules so you don't have to search all over when you're setting the game up. I'd even like Ken to edit his first post to links to all the previous games we can find.

And I'm gonna go ahead and start doing the telling the ghosts what's up.

Raskolnikov
06-06-2008, 04:37 AM
I was thinking...

an addendum to the ghosts can't talk rule, any body who is dead instantly learns every special role in the game since as dead people, they can see souls?

That way if you give anything away, you're just a jackass instead of just trying to help with any theories you think that are correct.
Good idea! :flirt:

btowncolt
06-06-2008, 10:15 AM
I'll give you 10 Schrute bucks if you tell me.

Hicks
06-06-2008, 10:51 PM
Private Message with details, please! *out stretches hand and motions*

Hicks
06-08-2008, 02:59 PM
Do all of the wolves know who the other wolves are, or they in the dark about the other wolves?

Raskolnikov
06-08-2008, 03:08 PM
They know.

SycamoreKen
06-08-2008, 03:12 PM
Obviously Hicks has never been a wolf. I'm voting for him first next game.;)

SycamoreKen
06-12-2008, 12:08 PM
I have a question about the current game but did not want to muck up the game itself. Was it decided that the coin flip would go away at a certain point and the vote would be the determineing factor, or will it remain in the game the whole way through? 6-8 players remaining was the suggested cut off, but it was never added to the rules. That would be very important in how people vote.

Trader Joe
06-12-2008, 12:11 PM
I don't know I don't think it was ever agreed upon. The cut off spot that is. I supported the coin flip and then it got me.

SoupIsGood
06-12-2008, 12:12 PM
I was also wondering if the PMs had been sent out yet regarding roles...


:-p

Trader Joe
06-12-2008, 01:06 PM
:-p
I think that comment bought me more time than it lost me. So :-p right back at ya.

SoupIsGood
06-12-2008, 01:08 PM
Yep, Belli and Rasko were the ones that persuaded me to hold off and kill random humans for a few days. We were soo close to having you hanged by the second round. Jeez.

Trader Joe
06-12-2008, 01:15 PM
Yep, Belli and Rasko were the ones that persuaded me to hold off and kill random humans for a few days. We were soo close to having you hanged by the second round. Jeez.

I'm quite slippery.
Anyways I've probably said enough and so have you. Theres a game still going on you know.

SoupIsGood
06-12-2008, 01:44 PM
Yeah. Thanks to you wolves and your millisecond-long nighttime, our poor village is stuck in perpetual day. :dead: