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heywoode
11-05-2007, 12:09 AM
She is the only reason I don't feel gay for watching Dancing With The Stars....not that there's anything wrong with that....

I was shooting some of the Pacers warming up before the game, turned to my right and she was about 15 feet from me. I only brought in the 75-300mm lens, so I actually had to get farther away from her to get any decent shots, and I really didn't get any anyway...The best shots are obviously the ones from when they danced. I only wish that we had moved down to our 14th row seats earlier....sigh....

It's late and I'm too tired to rearrange the photos into chronological order. I use photobucket for online storage and I can't seem to figure out how to organize them into the order I took them, even though the filenames are ascending numbers...Probably simple, but I'm too useless to care!

Hope you all enjoy, I know I did...

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Trader Joe
11-05-2007, 12:24 AM
She is fine as hell.

aero
11-05-2007, 12:28 AM
holy smokes! shes breathtaking hot :D

heywoode
11-05-2007, 07:47 AM
That's why I watch every episode of her show.....in High Definition on a 55 inch TV....

....and it lets me spend time with my wife!

burnzone
11-05-2007, 08:10 AM
Very nice pics heywoode, she is extremely delicious.

Naptown_Seth
11-05-2007, 03:23 PM
Hough is ridiculously hot. The dancing only makes it that much more insane.

JayRedd
11-05-2007, 05:01 PM
What's she famous for? I mean aside from the free boner givaways.

Hoop
11-05-2007, 05:24 PM
Julianne Hough is a Goddess! :love:

grace
11-05-2007, 05:43 PM
What's she famous for? I mean aside from the free boner givaways.


She is the only reason I don't feel gay for watching Dancing With The Stars....not that there's anything wrong with that....



I was going to point out that she won last season with Apolo Anton Ono, but when I found out she'd on Wikipedia that's reason enough to be famous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julianne_Hough

heywoode
11-05-2007, 06:35 PM
I have avi's of the high def feed of all of last season's episodes....She doesn't have quite the chemistry with Helio that she had with Apolo, but they will still push for the title this year....

JayRedd
11-05-2007, 06:55 PM
Oh...she's a dancer? I thought you had to a be a star to be on that show, no? Isn't it kind of cheating to actually be a dancer?

Will Galen
11-05-2007, 07:19 PM
Oh...she's a dancer? I thought you had to a be a star to be on that show, no? Isn't it kind of cheating to actually be a dancer?

Actually you don't have to be a star, you just have to be a celebrity to be on the show. Mark Cuban for instant.

Each celebrity is then partnered with a professional dancer who choreographs a dance and then teaches the celebrity the dance.

Julianne is a professional dancer, and not only is she not cheating, but her and her fellow professionals dancers are essential to the shows success.

Los Angeles
11-05-2007, 07:20 PM
Oh...she's a dancer? I thought you had to a be a star to be on that show, no? Isn't it kind of cheating to actually be a dancer?

They pair the stars with professional dancers. Kind of like pro/am golf.

JayRedd
11-05-2007, 07:48 PM
They pair the stars with professional dancers. Kind of like pro/am golf.

Gotcha...I guess the only remaining question then is: Who's more well-breasted? Her or Phil?

grace
11-05-2007, 08:29 PM
She doesn't have quite the chemistry with Helio that she had with Apolo

I'm assuming Helio's fiancée might have something to do with that.

Aw Heck
11-05-2007, 08:37 PM
She's only 19??? Wow. I'd never heard of her until the Pacers broadcast and I thought she was in her mid to late 20s.

Very hot indeed. And she's only two years younger than me... :eyebrow:






And way out of my league.

heywoode
11-05-2007, 08:42 PM
I'm assuming Helio's fiancée might have something to do with that.

Well, on the surface I would agree with that, but the girl from 90210 (Jenny Garth) is married (with two kids) to the guy who played the jerkoff in 'Can't Hardly Wait' and she and her pro dancer have all kindsa chemistry...

Her husband (Mr. Jenny Garth) is at every single show, so I assume he is being as nice about it as he can....I know I wouldn't be having my wife out there getting tossed around by some professional dancer with 1% body fat, no matter how good looking I was....I'm not saying the guy dancers are hetero, but most of them look to be....

Of course, Julianne's brother Derek is one of the pro's also...Apparently he is a pretty good dancer in his own right...

I actually like the show. The dancing is good, the girls are hot, the outfits are skimpy, and the format is entertaining. My wife and I enjoy watching it together. Monday nights are for the new week's routines and Tuesday nights are for the results of the voting by the fans....both shows, of course, LIVE.

Pretty entertaining watching Marie Osmond faint on live TV...Youtube it and enjoy!

heywoode
11-05-2007, 08:54 PM
She's only 19??? Wow. I'd never heard of her until the Pacers broadcast and I thought she was in her mid to late 20s.

Very hot indeed. And she's only two years younger than me... :eyebrow:






And way out of my league.

NEVER admit that. EVER. We're all in the same league; you just have to have the balls to realize it and act that way.

Will Galen
11-05-2007, 11:13 PM
NEVER admit that. EVER. We're all in the same league; you just have to have the balls to realize it and act that way.

That's testosterone talking. (grin)

I disagree with everything you said. For instant, sometimes knowing your not in someone's league drives you to get there. So admitting your not, is important.

And we're not all in the same league, we're just all human.
Being in someone's league has a lot to do with compatibility, age, station in life, etc., so no everyone is not in the same league.

Take a clean cut guy, that works hard, etc, etc. Then take a slovenly, dirty girl, that only wants to sleep all day. Neither is in the others so called league. However, both CAN change leagues.

Another for instant, Take an 80 year old woman and a 20 year old man. Are they in each other's so called league? No, but if you take a 80 year old man and a 20 year old girl, some time's the man thinks he's in the girl's league. (grin)

So does that mean I think I'm in Julianne Hough's league? Well . . . let's just say she's not in mine. (snort)

heywoode
11-05-2007, 11:52 PM
That's testosterone talking. (grin)

I disagree with everything you said. For instant, sometimes knowing your not in someone's league drives you to get there. So admitting your not, is important.

And we're not all in the same league, we're just all human.
Being in someone's league has a lot to do with compatibility, age, station in life, etc., so no everyone is not in the same league.

Take a clean cut guy, that works hard, etc, etc. Then take a slovenly, dirty girl, that only wants to sleep all day. Neither is in the others so called league. However, both CAN change leagues.

Another for instant, Take an 80 year old woman and a 20 year old man. Are they in each other's so called league? No, but if you take a 80 year old man and a 20 year old girl, some time's the man thinks he's in the girl's league. (grin)

So does that mean I think I'm in Julianne Hough's league? Well . . . let's just say she's not in mine. (snort)

You're just arguing meaningless semantics. If you think someone is out of your league, exactly how would you put that motivation to "get there" to use? What would you 'need' to get into her league? Plastic surgery? Taking "cool" lessons? Hiring 'Hitch'? Buying a whole new wardrobe and getting in better shape? That last one is remotely possible, but chances are, even if you dressed better, and were in better shape physically, you would still lack the confidence to make a difference. You would still probably not be paying attention to the most important detail about being in someone's league.

I have always lived my life by the premise that I don't care how hot a woman is, I have a chance if I strike her fancy. Many a stunning woman is lonely and bored because all she gets is gold-chained, slick-hair poseurs who are full of testosterone hitting on them. Women of all types (at least the ones worth being with) are far less concerned with perfect looks/perfect body than we men think. I always approached every woman as though she were exactly that...a woman. Not some unattainable piece of ***. Treat women as though their hotness is secondary to stimulating conversation and personality matching, and you will agree with me.

I was speaking strictly in the context that was presented. A normal looking guy ( I assume) thinking a very, very attractive female is out of his league. The examples you give are of people who are both humans, but would have nothing in common because of lifestyle/life experience. Many a hot girl that my friends thought was waaaay out of my league turned out to be waiting for someone who put their hotness aside and talked to them like their personalities were what mattered most, which of course it does.

I can guarantee you that Julianne Hough, or any other woman is in my league, as long as the personalities/beliefs can find common ground.

Will Galen
11-06-2007, 12:18 AM
I can guarantee you that Julianne Hough, or any other woman is in my league, as long as the personalities/beliefs can find common ground.

You just made my point!

heywoode
11-06-2007, 12:23 AM
You just made my point!

Uncommon personalities/beliefs doesn't mean "out of my league". It means "not compatible". There is a big difference. It should have been obvious what context I was posting about, but you countered with examples that didn't really apply to the statements I made....

I agree with you that the examples you gave would not be compatible, but those examples are meaningless to the subject I was discussing....That's all I was saying...

Do you disagree with me, given my further explanation of my statement "nobody is out of my league"?

Raoul Duke
11-06-2007, 12:38 AM
wow, unbelievable...and 19? wow. nice pictures

Will Galen
11-06-2007, 02:05 AM
Uncommon personalities/beliefs doesn't mean "out of my league". It means "not compatible". There is a big difference. It should have been obvious what context I was posting about, but you countered with examples that didn't really apply to the statements I made....

I agree with you that the examples you gave would not be compatible, but those examples are meaningless to the subject I was discussing....That's all I was saying...

Do you disagree with me, given my further explanation of my statement "nobody is out of my league"?

I think what it boils down to is how a person defines "Out of my league."

heywoode
11-06-2007, 09:25 AM
I think what it boils down to is how a person defines "Out of my league."

I can't imagine a 20 year old man saying that an 80 year old woman is out of his league. The implication of the statement "out of my league" is that someone is too hot for you. Everyone (I thought) knows that. That was my point. Nobody is too hot to date. You may find out that someone who is really hot is not compatible with you, but you should never balk at approaching someone because they are too hot (and out of your league).

ABADays
11-06-2007, 05:29 PM
Nice photos. She and Helio really do have good chemistry on the show. I wonder if they will do a segment on the show about the trip to Indy. The soap opera guy's partner is pretty hot too.

heywoode
11-06-2007, 05:35 PM
Nice photos. She and Helio really do have good chemistry on the show. I wonder if they will do a segment on the show about the trip to Indy. The soap opera guy's partner is pretty hot too.

I think they have decent chemistry, but who wouldn't with that 19 year old award-winning hot-*** dancer?!

We watched last night and didn't see anything about it...maybe on the results show tonight??

Yes, Edyta is hot too...Almost everyone left aside from Jane Seymour and Marie Osmond is hot...The girl that Mark Cuban was paired with wasn't super pretty in the face, but she was friggin' hot too....That Australian accent was a winner in my book! I was sad to see her go...

ABADays
11-06-2007, 05:48 PM
I think they have decent chemistry, but who wouldn't with that 19 year old award-winning hot-*** dancer?!

We watched last night and didn't see anything about it...maybe on the results show tonight??

Yes, Edyta is hot too...Almost everyone left aside from Jane Seymour and Marie Osmond is hot...The girl that Mark Cuban was paired with wasn't super pretty in the face, but she was friggin' hot too....That Australian accent was a winner in my book! I was sad to see her go...

I'm going to have you cheat for me here. We don't get the show until a day later. Tell me what happens tonight and if they ran an Indy segment.

BTW - for someone in their mid to late 50's Seymour is pretty damn hot.

Trader Joe
11-06-2007, 05:58 PM
She's 19?????????

Holy CRAP.

EDIT: And Helio's 32... Creepy.

ABADays
11-06-2007, 07:39 PM
She's 19?????????

Holy CRAP.

EDIT: And Helio's 32... Creepy.

Speaking of creepy - how about your avatar on Pacers Digest. I feel like I have to hold out my cross or throw holy water on the computer screen every time I look at one of your posts.

Trader Joe
11-06-2007, 08:00 PM
Speaking of creepy - how about your avatar on Pacers Digest. I feel like I have to hold out my cross or throw holy water on the computer screen every time I look at one of your posts.

I lost a bet. Trust me if you hate looking at it, just imagine how I feel.

Hoop
11-06-2007, 08:06 PM
NEVER admit that. EVER. We're all in the same league; you just have to have the balls to realize it and act that way.
I'm not in her league either, I'd just like to play one charity exhibition game with her. :-p

heywoode
11-06-2007, 08:53 PM
I'm going to have you cheat for me here. We don't get the show until a day later. Tell me what happens tonight and if they ran an Indy segment.

BTW - for someone in their mid to late 50's Seymour is pretty damn hot.

AGREED. I would much rather see Wayne Newton with tits (my pet name for Marie Osmond) leave before Jane. She was a Bond girl, she was close friends with Johnny Cash (and danced to I Walk The Line last night...), and she still looks very elegant. I like her just fine, even though she can't compete physically with the younger girls for dancing skills....

Willdo on the results tonight. Keep in mind that I DVR them and we watch them after we get our kids to bed around 9pm, so I won't have anything for you until 10pm-ish...

Glad to help, and I'm glad that we have a little DWTS thread going here! My wife is laughing that I have Pacers Digest talking about DWTS....All it takes is decent action photos of Julianne Hough!

Will Galen
11-06-2007, 09:14 PM
AGREED. I would much rather see Wayne Newton with tits (my pet name for Marie Osmond) leave before Jane. She was a Bond girl, she was close friends with Johnny Cash (and danced to I Walk The Line last night...), and she still looks very elegant. I like her just fine, even though she can't compete physically with the younger girls for dancing skills....

Willdo on the results tonight. Keep in mind that I DVR them and we watch them after we get our kids to bed around 9pm, so I won't have anything for you until 10pm-ish...

Glad to help, and I'm glad that we have a little DWTS thread going here! My wife is laughing that I have Pacers Digest talking about DWTS....All it takes is decent action photos of Julianne Hough!

I disagree . . . well not completely this time. (grin) One, I prefer Marie to Jane, always have, even when we were all younger. I look for Jane to leave tonight.

As for the pictures of Julianna, that second one wasn't decent, it was outstanding!

On a side note Marie's dad just died so she might not be on the show tonight.

heywoode
11-06-2007, 09:35 PM
I disagree . . . well not completely this time. (grin) One, I prefer Marie to Jane, always have, even when we were all younger. I look for Jane to leave tonight.

As for the pictures of Julianna, that second one wasn't decent, it was outstanding!

On a side note Marie's dad just died so she might not be on the show tonight.

I grew up watching Donnie & Marie, and never considered comparing Marie to Jane until DWTS...Marie just doesn't have that sexy quality to me. After all, she's a little bit country, and Donnie is a little bit rock & roll....Jane is classically hot. She was the essence of elegance in her heydey, and she has always been widely considered a timeless beauty...

I'm not saying you're wrong for liking Marie over her, that is your prerogative...For the record, neither of them are out of my league! :-p

Will Galen
11-06-2007, 09:49 PM
.For the record, neither of them are out of my league! :-p

Your wife might have something to say about that! (grin)

heywoode
11-06-2007, 10:01 PM
Your wife might have something to say about that! (grin)

Nah, she knows how I am. I'm past my prime anyway!

She puts up with me talking to Pacemates, getting my picture taken with Pacemates, me taking photos of Pacemates....

She has long noted that I will talk to anyone, at any time, regardless of who that person is...

heywoode
11-06-2007, 10:05 PM
BTW, just for arguments sake...(I hate it when I hijack a thread that I started!).....I didn't just look for hot photos of Jane and fugly shots of Marie....these are the first few of each woman I could find! I'm not even going to bother finding current shots of both of them....

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heywoode
11-06-2007, 11:09 PM
Sorry to subject everyone to some 70's fashion.....I will attone for it with another Pacemates thread....

heywoode
11-07-2007, 12:08 AM
I'm going to have you cheat for me here. We don't get the show until a day later. Tell me what happens tonight and if they ran an Indy segment.

BTW - for someone in their mid to late 50's Seymour is pretty damn hot.

Jane got sent home....suckly!

Los Angeles
11-07-2007, 12:26 AM
That just got weird.

heywoode
11-07-2007, 12:31 AM
That just got weird.

Yeah, I ruined the thread, didn't I?

The other Pacemates shots didn't make up for it??!!!

Will Galen
11-07-2007, 03:08 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14573491

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</td></tr></tbody></table>Waltzing out the door: After recovering from food poisoning, Jane Seymour attempted to stage a memorable comeback. It just didn’t happen. In her first routine, a lackadaisical quickstep, Jane fumbled through the footwork. The judges didn’t care for it, and, if the expression on Jane’s face was any indication, she didn’t care for their criticisms. Though her cha-cha was marginally better, it wasn’t enough to keep Jane and Tony Dovolani from landing in last place with the judges on Monday night and with the voting audience Tuesday. Teary eyed with the news of her elimination, Jane called the competition, “the best time of my life.”</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td> <table style="padding-right: 10px;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="70"><tbody><tr><td>http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/_Ent/Dancing_with_Stars_2007/melanie_brown.standard.jpg</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>The new dancing queen: Mel B and Maksim Chmerkovskiy failed to impress with their premiere fox-trot, but when they returned to the stage with the paso doble, they left no doubt about who’s leading the pack. Decked out in black, M&M delivered an aggressive and appropriately passionate paso. Judges Len Goodman and Bruno Tonioli found themselves unable to contain their applause until the end of the routine, which made the resulting perfect score no surprise at all. And their encore performance proved that perfection was no fluke.</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee" valign="top"><td> <table style="padding-right: 10px;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="70"><tbody><tr><td>http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/_Ent/Dancing_with_Stars_2007/marie_osmond.standard.jpg</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>One bright spot on a dark day: Following the death of her father (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21659054/), George Osmond, Tuesday morning, Marie Osmond was unable to attend the “Dancing” results show. During Monday’s performance show, Marie and partner Jonathan Roberts gave their best effort yet in a quickstepping “Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy” pastiche. It worked on all levels, with Marie putting her best moves forward and incorporating her campy style to perfection. And, in what turned out to be a very appropriate tribute, she dedicated the number to her parents. The initial momentum didn’t follow Johnny & Marie into their cha-cha, but luckily, given the events of the day, it didn’t lead to her exit.</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td> <table style="padding-right: 10px;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="70"><tbody><tr><td>http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/_Ent/Dancing_with_Stars_2007/helio_castroneves.standard.jpg</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>Saucy sambo: Last week’s comeback wasn’t evident when Helio Castroneves took the floor to tango, though in fairness to the Indy champ, it wasn’t entirely his fault. The song selection, David Bowie’s “Jean Genie,” hardly lent itself to tango rhythms. Disappointed in the routine, Len griped, “Not one heel lead!” But note, he was looking at Julianne Hough, holding her accountable for failing to instill the moves in her partner. Helio later found his natural match in the samba, the national dance of his home country, Brazil. He wowed the officials, and since he’s still in the game, he must have wowed the fans, too.</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee" valign="top"><td> <table style="padding-right: 10px;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="70"><tbody><tr><td>http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/_Ent/Dancing_with_Stars_2007/jennie_garth.standard.jpg</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>More of the same: Jennie Garth keeps improving week after week, but she faced criticism for her first dance, the Viennese waltz. While the dance was fluid and well timed, the judges found fault with the choreography. Evidently Derek Hough put together an American style V. waltz, which didn’t contain enough counterturns in this comp. That slight setback didn’t affect their racy rumba, which left the audience cheering. </td></tr><tr valign="top"><td> <table style="padding-right: 10px;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="70"><tbody><tr><td>http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/_Ent/Dancing_with_Stars_2007/cameron_mathison.standard.jpg</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>SuperCam still flying high: Somehow Cameron Mathison and Edyta Sliwinska avoided elimination after last week’s appearance in the bottom two. Quite the feat, given that their clumsy and rushed fox-trot, complete with missed steps, constituted a big decline from the daytime hunk. Len’s advice? “I’d put a bit of kryptonite down your pants to calm it down a little bit.” Maybe Cam tried it, as he came back strong with the jive. In what’s typically a dance for the little guys, 6’2” Cameron bounced his way to some praise from the panel.</td></tr></tbody></table>-----------------------------


Mel B and Maksim Chmerkovskiy ----- Grade C.
Probably the favorites but I don't care for Mel, she has to much attitude for me. Should make the three couple finals.

Marie Osmond and Jonathan Roberts ------ Grade B.
I have always liked Marie, but I didn't think she had a chance until this last week. Her Bugle Boy number was great. She looks like shes lost quite a few pounds, fifteen more and she would look great. I look for her to leave in the next two weeks.

Helio Castroneves and Julianne Hough ------ Grade A.
One of my favorites. I like Helio's personalty . . . and he's paired with one of the best in Julianna. Should make the finals, probably second favorites.

Jennie Garth and Derek Hough ------ Grade A.
Another favorite. Jennie comes across as quite and unassuming. I'm thinking she will make the finals, and would be a dark horse to win.

Cameron Mathison and Edyta Sliwinska ------ Grade B.
Like Marie, I look for Cameron to leave in the next two weeks.

JayRedd
11-07-2007, 06:01 PM
You motorboatin' sonuva*****

ABADays
11-08-2007, 12:57 PM
Helio Castroneves and Julianne Hough ------ Grade A.
One of my favorites. I like Helio's personalty . . . and he's paired with one of the best in Julianna. Should make the finals, probably second favorites.

Jennie Garth and Derek Hough ------ Grade A.
Another favorite. Jennie comes across as quite and unassuming. I'm thinking she will make the finals, and would be a dark horse to win.[/quote]

I've met Helio on a few occasions and was no different than he appears on the show. Extremely likeable guy and I'm rooting for him. Of course, Julianne helps.

Jennie has been a huge surprise to me. I thought both of her dances were absolutely elegant (don't call me gay).

heywoode
11-08-2007, 02:57 PM
Helio Castroneves and Julianne Hough ------ Grade A.
One of my favorites. I like Helio's personalty . . . and he's paired with one of the best in Julianna. Should make the finals, probably second favorites.

Jennie Garth and Derek Hough ------ Grade A.
Another favorite. Jennie comes across as quite and unassuming. I'm thinking she will make the finals, and would be a dark horse to win.

I've met Helio on a few occasions and was no different than he appears on the show. Extremely likeable guy and I'm rooting for him. Of course, Julianne helps.

Jennie has been a huge surprise to me. I thought both of her dances were absolutely elegant (don't call me gay).[/quote]

You aren't gay. She is elegant. She has been hot ever since 90210. What's great is that she's STILL hot as hot can be. Not Julianne hot, but hot nonetheless.

grace
11-08-2007, 03:15 PM
There's a reason the pictures of Marie in the 70s are the way they are--she was only in her teens when they were taken.

As for who's going to get voted out when I have a horrible feeling that Cameron Mathison is going to stay on longer than he should because of all this fans from All My Children.

heywoode
11-08-2007, 11:30 PM
There's a reason the pictures of Marie in the 70s are the way they are--she was only in her teens when they were taken.

As for who's going to get voted out when I have a horrible feeling that Cameron Mathison is going to stay on longer than he should because of all this fans from All My Children.

The fact that she was in her teens is exactly why I can't fathom comparing her back then to Jane...or now for that matter....but that's just me.

I like Cameron. I think he is doing very well for how tall he is. I agree with the judges (not like my technical opinion matters as much as theirs do, but it makes sense) that it would be more difficult to master steps with that much length of body as opposed to being normal or short...

As far as ranking who is left, on technical ability thus far, my opinion would stack them this way as of right now:

1) Mel B

2) Helio

3) Jennie

4) Cameron

5) Marie

I would've had Jane above Marie, but I understand why Jane was sent home this week instead of Marie.

Will Galen
11-13-2007, 07:08 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21761121/page/2/

Helio quicksteps his way to a perfect score
The Indy champ takes the lead heading into the semifinals

COMMENTARY
By Ree Hines
MSNBC contributor
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In a night lacking the usual host of personal tragedies and illnesses making up so much of this season, Monday’s “Dancing with the Stars (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21761121/#)” was all about the dance. This performance night showcased why some stars are destined for next week’s semifinals, and why a couple of couples could skip it all together.

While the show continues to boast an impressive batch of celebrity talent, the gap is widening. The judges even put away their sunshine pep talks, and took nitpicking to a new level. And, finally, Mel B and Maksim Chmerkovskiy (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21761121/#) aren’t the only obvious pick for the end. Now, it’s a serious dance competition.

Last week Jennie Garth’s (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21761121/#) lack of confidence made up the biggest criticism from the judges. In a bizarre effort to deal with that, her partner Derek Hough brought in some self-esteem boosting support from Richard Simmons. Yes, the “Sweatin’ to the Oldies” guru worked on Jennie’s issues.

When Richard told her she was “worth more than all the pearls in the ocean,” she looked like she might laugh, but instead wept. “You have to do that foxtrot and jive and believe in it,” he urged her. Somehow his sparkling tank top and fuchsia pompom didn’t distract from the message.

It must have worked, as Jennie hit the floor with mounds of confidence for the jive. Maybe a bit too much. It was an overload of energy and gusto, much like Cameron Mathison’s crazed foxtrot last week. Her enthusiasm led to some sloppy moves, and Derek couldn’t cover for the obvious timing gaps.

Head judge Len Goodman put aside his usual kind words and let the actress take some heat. “Jennie, I’ve got to be honest; I’m not sure if that jive tonight is deserving of getting in the semifinals.” Bruno Tonioli and Carrie Ann Inaba agreed, leading to a score of 24.

For the first time, Jennie looked surprised not to get some praise. She was so wrapped up in believing in herself, she didn’t sense it coming. “I thought I did great!”

With a chance to redeem herself in the foxtrot, Jennie, decked out in an old Hollywood glamour gown, improved. The judges considered it a come back, but didn’t back down from their overall “needs improvement” message. Still, with a total of 50 out of 60 for the night, Jennie and Derek can’t complain.

Not quite perfect
After his mixed showing last week, Cameron promised, “This is my week to bring home a 10!” Then again, he seemed shocked he didn’t earn a perfect score for last week’s jive, so maybe he’s not his own best judge.

Dancing the Viennese waltz to “Hedwig’s Theme” from the Harry Potter movies, Cam and Edyta Sliwinska started out strong. Len wasn’t wild about Cam’s choice to bare his chest in a non-Latin routine, but as the turns and counterturns grew, the routine grew on him, too. The all nines fell short of the soap hunk’s goal, but there was still the cha-cha to go.

That’s when it went downhill for the couple. Cam made all the right marks, but struggled in the finesse department. Carrie Anne pegged it when she said, “You hit the lines and they’re beautiful. It’s all the in-between moves you need to work on.”

Len simply found it wooden and “dancing by numbers.”
When the set of eights were revealed, the disappointment showed on Cameron’s face. But he took some solace when the audience booed the judges. And much like Jennie before him, he shrugged it off and exclaimed, “I thought I did alright.”

Little bit too much country
Returning to the game following the death of her father, Marie Osmond relied on her dad’s “the show must go on” mentality. Rehearsals saw her dancing well and looking good. Really good. Glance back to footage of the first week to see what the ballroom workout can do. Wow!

Unfortunately, that’s where the wows ended. She and Jonathan Roberts performed a good-for-her rumba, but didn’t deliver a performance to prove last week’s spot-on quickstep was more than just a fluke.

Len couldn’t articulate the problems with the boring number, as he was too busy putting his foot in his mouth. “I knew this was going to be a tough dance for you; it’s meant to be a young couple dance.” Ouch. He tried to dig his way out, saying that the oldest woman in the competition and her partner put a “sophisticated tweak on it.”

Marie clearly got good marks from her brother Donny Osmond, who clapped and cried for her efforts. Of course, his scores don’t count, so it was just eights from the officials.

The take-two dance for Johnny and Marie, the jive, fell flat as well. Kicking up more of a country sidestep line-dance than a jive was the issue. But Marie looked so much more comfortable with the country moves.

Bruno and Carrie Ann debated whether the dance even was a jive, and Len tried to make up for last time by just saying the jive is fun and “you came out and gave us fun.” Must not have been enough fun, as they still landed in last place with a total of 49.

Helio Castroneves (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21761121/page/2/#) and Julianne Hough weren’t going to repeat their past missteps. Julianne took Helio through a video of the last dance and pointed out the problems, before bringing in a “pit team” of ballroom heavyweights, including the recently booted Tony Dovolani, to show him how it’s done.Usually, those rehearsal montages just seem like set-up filler, but something must have clicked for the Indy champ. In their first dance, the paso doble, Helio worked the cape like a pro and his footwork was markedly better than it’s been in three weeks. He even took on the matador character without making the scary faces he’s assumed in past acting attempts. Progress!

The audience loved it; the judges loved it; and with 27 points, no one could have expected things were going to get so much better. But they did.

Jumping from the stage step (Cam style!) in a bright yellow zoot suit, Helio launched into a flawless quickstep. He and Julianne worked in perfect time and gave not only their best performance but possibly the best of the show so far.

After the prolonged cheering and standing ovation, the judges continued clapping as though they were as stunned as the crowd. “I thought you looked like a big dancing banana,” Len quipped. “It was fantastic.” And if they had any doubt of that, their first perfect 30 of the season should put it to rest.

They can’t all be 30s
The only other perfect scoring couple in the game, with two 30s under their belts for past performances, Mel and Maks took the stage next. The passionate and aggressive tango they performed harked back to last week’s paso. Once again in all black, they even rehashed a couple of their own steps. The dance was great, but it felt redundant.

Without the eerily similar feel, they might have managed 10s instead of nines for the routine. But there was still time to see some 10s for their mambo. They received two of them, in fact, and a nine for the surprisingly standard interpretation. That’s standard in a good way.

The classic, hip thrusting fun and fast mambo was no frills, strictly ballroom material. If Carrie Ann didn’t dish that nine, M&M would’ve tied Helio and Julianne for night. But Carrie Ann did point out one thing that speaks volumes to Mel’s success so far. “Maks looks like he’s having a great time with you.” The usually grumpy pro does seem positively pleased with his partner — a big change from seasons past.

Going into Tuesday night’s results show, Jennie and Cameron are both red zone possibilities, but they aren’t the ones that need to worry the most. As host Tom Bergeron (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21761121/page/2/#) put it when he announced the standings, “Languishing at the bottom are Marie and Jonathan.” The fan base loves Marie, but even if she sticks around one more week, it’s clear the competition is beyond her now.
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My thoughts.

Helio Castroneves and Julianne Hough ------ Grade A.
Helio probably worked his way up to co-favorite with Mel B.

Mel B and Maksim Chmerkovskiy ----- Grade B.
No attitude this week, I liked that.

Cameron Mathison and Edyta Sliwinska ------ Grade B.
If Marie stays he will probably make the finals, because that will make Jennie Garth going home this week.

Jennie Garth and Derek Hough ------ Grade C.
I don't know if she has the fan base to beat Marie. Had a better week though.

Marie Osmond and Jonathan Roberts ------ Grade C.
Should go home this week, but probably won't. I'm thinking Jennie will.

Will Galen
11-14-2007, 03:59 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14573491

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</td></tr></tbody></table>His own biggest fan: Cameron Mathison was certain this was his week “to bring home a 10” with the Viennese waltz or cha-cha, not his week to go home. And evidently he thought he deserved perfect marks the week before, too. Hey, that’s why the stars don’t judge their own performances. That’s not to say he can’t dance — his partner Edyta Sliwinska has made enormous progress with him over the last seven weeks — but he never mastered ballroom finesse. Still, it’s a shame to see SuperCam fly away before ... ahem ... certain other dancers.</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td> <table style="padding-right: 10px;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="70"><tbody><tr><td>http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/_Ent/Dancing_with_Stars_2007/marie_osmond.standard.jpg</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>Semi-dancing to the semifinals: Once again Marie Osmond showcased some mediocre dance skills, and once again her loyal fans drummed up the votes to save her. It’s not the first week she’s stayed while superior celebrity hoofers got the boot, but this time it takes her to the semifinals. Her good-enough rumba and little-bit-country jive didn’t stand out in the mix Monday night, and even Marie was shocked when Tom Bergeron announced she and Jonathan Roberts were still in it. But Mel B wasn’t just surprised to hear the news -- she looked downright angry.</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee" valign="top"><td> <table style="padding-right: 10px;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="70"><tbody><tr><td>http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/_Ent/Dancing_with_Stars_2007/helio_castroneves.standard.jpg</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>Leading the pack: While Helio Castroneves’ first dance, the paso doble, proved he paid attention to the judges' comments about his all-heel footwork last week, his quickstep left that performance in the dust. He finally delivered a performance worthy of all the promise he showed in the first weeks of the competition. That earned Helio and Julianne Hough their first perfect 30. Just before inviting them to dance the encore, head judge Len Goodman called the fast, precision routine the best quickstep they’ve seen in five seasons of the show.</td></tr><tr valign="top"><td> <table style="padding-right: 10px;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="70"><tbody><tr><td>http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/_Ent/Dancing_with_Stars_2007/jennie_garth.standard.jpg</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>Sweatin' to the ballroom: After an odd confidence pep talk session with weight-loss coach Richard Simmons, Jennie Garth hit the floor with plenty of gusto. Unfortunately, that bold attitude didn’t help the sloppy, hyper jive that followed. She and Derek Hough redeemed themselves with an elegant fox-trot, but it still didn’t please Bruno Tonioli, who insists that Jennie’s failed to dazzle him despite her dazzle potential. Len, on the other hand, thinks Jennie could be this season’s dark horse.</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#eeeeee" valign="top"><td> <table style="padding-right: 10px;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="70"><tbody><tr><td>http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/_Ent/Dancing_with_Stars_2007/melanie_brown.standard.jpg</td></tr><tr><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>M&M know mambo: Helio and Julianne may have dominated the night, but Mel B and Maksim Chmerkovskiy weren’t far behind. In fact, just one point separated the power couples. If M&M’s aggressive tango didn’t seem so derivative of the previous paso, it could have been the dance of the night. But it was their near-perfect mambo that showed why they’re still the couple to watch for on finale night. Without relying on gimmicks, the classic, streamlined mambo ranked among their best moves yet.</td></tr></tbody></table>
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I like Marie, but she should have went home. When she was pronounced safe I figured it would be Jennie or Cameron going home. Personally I would have preferred Mel going home to Cameron.

heywoode
11-14-2007, 03:51 PM
I like Marie, but she should have went home. When she was pronounced safe I figured it would be Jennie or Cameron going home. Personally I would have preferred Mel going home to Cameron.

I'm glad you agree about Marie. I definitely agree that she should be gone. I would say that I think Mel is technically better than Cameron, but I think Cameron is better than Jenny.

It is beyond me how people can still be voting for Marie and calling it a dance competition. Given those fans' level of involvement, they should just have a show where they talk to the stars and have them do some stupid horse-and-pony show and then the morons can vote for the star they "like" the best. Those voting for Marie at this level surely can't be voting for her because of her dancing ability...

Still the only reality tv related show I will watch...

grace
11-14-2007, 05:39 PM
Personally, I've never liked Cameron's dancing. This week I thought Marie did better than Jenny.

If you want to talk about voting injustices Wayne Newton never should have lasted as long as he did. Sabrina should have never been in the competition in the first place. I'm not sure Jane Seymour or Mel B. should have either.

If people are going to be bent out of shape about fans voting for the personality instead of the dacing talent then they should have the judges scores count 2/3 and the fan votes count 1/3 or only let the fans vote once or not have the voting start until the episode is over.

ABADays
11-14-2007, 08:57 PM
Why Jane? I'm glad Jennie is still in. Much to my surprise I've really enjoyed her dancing. Helio still has my vote though.

We get all the shows a day late and for some reason they didn't show the results show tonight. AFN has it listed but not showing it.

heywoode
11-14-2007, 10:25 PM
Personally, I've never liked Cameron's dancing. This week I thought Marie did better than Jenny.

If you want to talk about voting injustices Wayne Newton never should have lasted as long as he did. Sabrina should have never been in the competition in the first place. I'm not sure Jane Seymour or Mel B. should have either.

If people are going to be bent out of shape about fans voting for the personality instead of the dacing talent then they should have the judges scores count 2/3 and the fan votes count 1/3 or only let the fans vote once or not have the voting start until the episode is over.

I thought Jenny did pretty poorly, so I won't argue about Marie vs. Jenny. I COMPLETELY agree about Wayne Newton, but Sabrina got dogged hard, IMO. She should still be in the competition. Her leaving is the biggest controversy in the five years of the show.

Jane was always so-so in my book. It was obvious to me that she didn't have the mustard to get anywhere near the finals, but she was doing better than Marie when she left. She should have stayed last week and left this week instead of Cameron, with Marie already being gone.

Mel B. is the only competitor who is close to Helio, IMO. I'm almost certain, barring a 'Bush-in-Florida' style injustice, that it will come down to Mel B. and Helio. Given what I've seen, that is what it should be.

I wholeheartedly agree about a more staggered points system. I would go farther than the the 2/3-1/3 split you suggest to more like 75-25 or even 80-20. It is called DANCING with the stars, and that is how it should be scored. I understand that quite a bit of the popularity of the show is the fan participation by being able to vote, but that should take a very large backseat to the judges (who know what good dancing is) scoring....

The show has lost a lot of credibility this season, IMO.

grace
11-15-2007, 12:49 AM
Why Jane?

As far as I'm concerned anyone who's had any dancing experience shouldn't be in the competition. Jane was training to be a ballet dancer, but had an injury that forced her to give it up. Granted that was 40 years ago, but still. Last year I didn't think Joey Fatone should be in it and this year I didn't think Sabrina should be in it. As much as I liked Joey Lawrence I didn't think he should have been on the show because of the dancing he did when he was little.

Pig Nash
11-15-2007, 02:23 AM
So I like how this thread went from Awesome! to Dancing with the Stars thread in t-minus ten seconds.

heywoode
11-15-2007, 07:56 AM
So I like how this thread went from Awesome! to Dancing with the Stars thread in t-minus ten seconds.

Well, I only have so many photos of Julianne, but the show is on twice a week....

grace
11-20-2007, 11:47 PM
So, let's say Donny Osmond is right and Marie wins the whole thing. Anyone think they'll redo the voting process for next season?

I do have a new theory on why Marie made it through again this week. It's Bruno's fault. He didn't give her a ten on her first dance. Voters were pissed and voted for her. Me? Well, I couldn't get through on the phone to vote for Helio and then I forgot to vote on line.

Will Galen
11-21-2007, 08:52 AM
What did Donnie say exactly? For some reason my recorder didn't record it.

SycamoreKen
11-21-2007, 08:59 AM
My wife and I have watched the show for the first time this year, mostly because she was a big Donnie and marie fan growing up. the crazy thing is, we never watch the results show just the first night. We also never vote. Iguess it is because we watch the Biggest Loser on Tuesdays.

As for the voting, I doubt it will change. The same thing happens on American Idol and it has not changed. I doubt ABC will mess with a good thing and milk this for all it is worth.

heywoode
11-21-2007, 09:23 AM
I have had a brutal week and didn't watch the show Monday or Tuesday....If Marie stayed and so did Jennie....who got voted off?

Will Galen
11-21-2007, 05:24 PM
Jennie Garth got voted off, she didn't stay.

ABADays
11-21-2007, 07:32 PM
Wow - Jennie got voted off? After getting her best scores. Marie is wayyyyyy past her time and talent.

grace
11-21-2007, 07:54 PM
What did Donnie say exactly? For some reason my recorder didn't record it.

He didn't say anything on the show. He's a reporter for Entertainment Tonight (or some show like that). He and his family were on Larry King last week hyping their reunion tour. Donnie said that the thought Jennie would be the next to go. He said that between Marie, Helio, and Mel B. Marie had a bigger fan base.

heywoode
11-21-2007, 08:37 PM
He didn't say anything on the show. He's a reporter for Entertainment Tonight (or some show like that). He and his family were on Larry King last week hyping their reunion tour. Donnie said that the thought Jennie would be the next to go. He said that between Marie, Helio, and Mel B. Marie had a bigger fan base.

I'm starting to not like the Osmonds very much. It isn't called "Who Is Your Favorite Star?", it's called DANCING With The Stars....

The credibility of the show is slipping big time. I can tell you this, if Marie stays over either Helio or Mel B., I'm done watching. Jennie was at least a toss up because of mediocre-to-moderate dancing and low self-esteem....I still think she was better and more fun to watch than Marie, and not just because she is WAY WAY hotter...

grace
11-21-2007, 09:24 PM
I'm starting to not like the Osmonds very much. It isn't called "Who Is Your Favorite Star?", it's called DANCING With The Stars.

That's not the Osmonds' fault. If anyone is to blame its all the people who didn't vote to keep Sabrina in. Since the day the show started voting has been flawed just like American Idol. Marie and Jenny have no allusions that they are the better dancers.

Monday after she danced Jenny said something like "If you really think I deserve to be in the finals vote for me." She said it in a way that made me think she knows she's not the best. Of course she tends to have a lack of self-confidence where her dancing is concerned. As for Marie she has said for weeks that it's the fans that are keeping her around.

I will be very disappointed if Helio doesn't win. I will be mad as hell if Mel B. wins. I guess that means I'll be O.K. with it if Marie manages to get the most fan votes.

ABADays
11-21-2007, 09:59 PM
Helio has been very, very enjoyable to watch.

heywoode
11-21-2007, 11:06 PM
That's not the Osmonds' fault. If anyone is to blame its all the people who didn't vote to keep Sabrina in. Since the day the show started voting has been flawed just like American Idol. Marie and Jenny have no allusions that they are the better dancers.

Monday after she danced Jenny said something like "If you really think I deserve to be in the finals vote for me." She said it in a way that made me think she knows she's not the best. Of course she tends to have a lack of self-confidence where her dancing is concerned. As for Marie she has said for weeks that it's the fans that are keeping her around.

I will be very disappointed if Helio doesn't win. I will be mad as hell if Mel B. wins. I guess that means I'll be O.K. with it if Marie manages to get the most fan votes.

Well, it is annoying that the Osmonds seem to be embracing the "it doesn't matter if she's the best dancer, she has the fanbase" type mentality. I suppose I can give some credence to the fact that they are supporting their sibling, but it still rubs me the wrong way..I agree that Sabrina got screwed over pretty hard, but the people who are to blame are the morons who are voting for Marie at all. Voting for her over Sabrina, Cameron, Jane, Jennie, or even the one legged chick from last season is the problem with the show. One could just have about figured that the generally idiotic American public would find a way to mess up a good show/good format. Just my opinion, of course...

I know Jennie has self-confidence problems and that she knows she isn't the BEST dancer, but she's better than Marie.

For the life of me, I can't understand being okay with Marie winning, but not Mel B. You may not like her personality, but she is ten times the dancer that Marie is. Not wanting her to win because of her personality is not much different than people wanting Marie to win because they like her personality, is it? I'm not trying to be argumentative or belittle you, I just can't see any indication in my own opinion of the dancing I've seen, or the judges scoring that would lead me to believe that Marie is even in the same class as Mel B.

I have already stated that I would be done watching if Marie isn't the next person voted off. Even if I stop watching, my wife will be watching and telling me who is leaving/staying. If Marie wins the show, that is Armageddon as far as I'm concerned. I won't even watch NEXT season if that happens....

Will Galen
11-22-2007, 12:21 AM
I have already stated that I would be done watching if Marie isn't the next person voted off. Even if I stop watching, my wife will be watching and telling me who is leaving/staying. If Marie wins the show, that is Armageddon as far as I'm concerned. I won't even watch NEXT season if that happens....

Jee, why are you getting so worked up about a bunch of celebrities in a dance contest? Remember the public would not be voting if it was strictly a dance competition.

As is, I'm with Grace all the way! I want Helio to win, and I want Mel to lose. If Marie prevents Mel from winning, I'm fine with it!

heywoode
11-22-2007, 12:31 AM
Jee, why are you getting so worked up about a bunch of celebrities in a dance contest? Remember the public would not be voting if it was strictly a dance competition.

As is, I'm with Grace all the way! I want Helio to win, and I want Mel to lose. If Marie prevents Mel from winning, I'm fine with it!

Not a single exclamation point in what you quoted from me, my friend. I'm not worked up, that's just how I am. Also, keep in mind that I want Helio to win also. Even with the public voting, it is a dancing contest. They just can't figure out a way to have an interactive show and not be able to remove the moron factor from the voting process....

So I assume by your statement that you think Marie is a better dancer than Mel?

grace
11-23-2007, 03:22 PM
Heywoode, all I can say is if I didn't want Helio to win I'd vote for Marie just to **** you off.

It's a friggin' amateur contest. No one gets anything except a stupid disco ball trophy and a chance to go on tour. As far as I know the only winner who has ever gone on tour is Drew Lachey although according to the schedule Marie is scheduled to join the tour the end of January.

http://dancingwiththestars.aeglive.com/tour_dates.php

heywoode
11-23-2007, 03:47 PM
Heywoode, all I can say is if I didn't want Helio to win I'd vote for Marie just to **** you off.

It's a friggin' amateur contest. No one gets anything except a stupid disco ball trophy and a chance to go on tour. As far as I know the only winner who has ever gone on tour is Drew Lachey although according to the schedule Marie is scheduled to join the tour the end of January.

http://dancingwiththestars.aeglive.com/tour_dates.php

Given that your mood is listed as grumpy and mine is *****y, I'll just say Happy Thanksgiving and leave this conversation at that. It is obvious we don't see eye to eye on this subject and never will.....

ABADays
11-23-2007, 05:47 PM
Grace brings up a point I was thinking about the other day. There is absolutely no way these people are on this show for free. Their union or unions simply wouldn't allow it. My guess is they are getting the SAG minimum.

grace
11-23-2007, 05:49 PM
I don't know that they get paid, but I'm pretty sure the show is playing their travel fees which means ABC is now broke from flying Cameron Mathison back and forth from NYC.

heywoode
11-28-2007, 01:16 AM
HA

SycamoreKen
11-28-2007, 09:17 AM
We watched the last 5 minutes last night and were surprised that marie was not in the top 2. My wife is a big fan of hers and I thought she might pull it out. Helio was very entertaining and it was a good choice. Mel did a great job dancing and was deserving as well.

Major Cold
11-28-2007, 10:52 AM
You think that the pros are becoming more familar and people are voting for them rather than the celebs?

If not...the more the show goes on the more likely that will be the case.

grace
11-28-2007, 02:05 PM
That restyle dance that Marie did was the worst thing I've ever seen. If any of that concept was Jonathan's idea I wouldn't want him to be my partner.

I really thought Mel was going to win because all those websites that are usually right about who the winner is said Mel would win. It wouldn't surprise me if Helio got some votes because of who his partner is.

This morning some of the dancers were on GMA. Cameron danced with his partner. Who knew Edita had any real clothes.

ABADays
11-28-2007, 02:28 PM
That restyle dance that Marie did was the worst thing I've ever seen. If any of that concept was Jonathan's idea I wouldn't want him to be my partner.

I really thought Mel was going to win because all those websites that are usually right about who the winner is said Mel would win. It wouldn't surprise me if Helio got some votes because of who his partner is.

This morning some of the dancers were on GMA. Cameron danced with his partner. Who knew Edita had any real clothes.

I don't get to see the final show until tonight but heard on the radio Helio won so I'm looking forward to it. He has just been a joy to watch. I agree with you on Marie's last performance - oh gawd it was awful. Hm - I kind of liked Edyta's clothes on the show :D

Helio should auction off a few dances for charity when he gets back to Indy.

heywoode
11-28-2007, 04:57 PM
I was very pleased with how it turned out, aside from my already stated (ad nauseum) distaste for one of the finalists. I felt worse for Mel than I thought I would, but I'm still glad Helio won....

...and yes, Edyta has no complaints coming to her from my direction about her choices in the wardrobe department. I especially liked the tied white shirt, short skirt, and knee high socks outfit she had on for one of the last few dances they did...the jive, maybe?

I thought Marie was pretty testy with the judges and it seemed like she thought she was going to a coronation for herself as queen of all that is DWTS...and when it wasn't going that way, she didn't like it much. She even defended that turd of a dance they did where she was the doll....YIKES!

LouisvilleLip
11-28-2007, 06:38 PM
People watch that show?

heywoode
11-28-2007, 11:05 PM
People watch that show?


HELLS yeah.

Way better watching half-nekkid chicks dancing around than watching a couple sweaty guys in shorts beat the hell out of each other because that's all they're smart enough to accomplish in life....

HEHE...I'm only messin' with ya...

ABADays
11-28-2007, 11:11 PM
People watch that show?

Actually quite a few million. As opposed to the BTN and NFLN.

Hoop
11-29-2007, 01:39 AM
Did you hear that Helio called off his wedding and has a thing going with Julianne?

Very unprofessional for Julianne to get involved with a contestant. Helio's a lucky b*astard though.

heywoode
11-29-2007, 09:13 AM
Did you hear that Helio called off his wedding and has a thing going with Julianne?

Very unprofessional for Julianne to get involved with a contestant. Helio's a lucky b*astard though.


:link:

I don't believe it....Apolo from last season was much more compatible with her...and not 11 years older than her. She's MORMON.

I'm not saying it isn't true, I just don't believe it without proof...

Gyron
11-29-2007, 09:46 AM
I saw it in the news this morning that he called off his engagement...but I didn't read the article, just the head line. It was on MSN I believe.

heywoode
11-29-2007, 09:58 AM
LINK (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22011557/)

Helio and his woman split a couple weeks ago, and he and Julianne both say that there is nothing between them...Apparently Helio's woman was the one who called it off...

In other news, I didn't know that Julianne called off her engagement earlier this year also...I bet that guy ain't happy...


-ADDED-

About halfway down is a link to a video of Maks dogging Marie's *** and it comes out that apparently some charity group Marie is involved with was sending out TWO MILLION emails a week asking people to vote for Marie...Not actually cheating, but pretty lame in my opinion. Now I know how she survived so long; it certainly wasn't her dancing skills....

Hoop
11-29-2007, 05:58 PM
:link:

I don't believe it....Apolo from last season was much more compatible with her...and not 11 years older than her. She's MORMON.

I'm not saying it isn't true, I just don't believe it without proof...
Sorry if I jumped the shark.
They said that something was going on between them on some TV rag show, I was just flipping through channels. I just heard the headline, they didn't say both Helio and Julianne denied that anything was going on.

I'll take them at their word until something proves them wrong. They both seems like good, honest people. If it turns out to be true, still doesn't mean they're not good peps.

Will Galen
11-30-2007, 07:32 PM
Sorry if I jumped the shark.
They said that something was going on between them on some TV rag show, I was just flipping through channels. I just heard the headline, they didn't say both Helio and Julianne denied that anything was going on.

I'll take them at their word until something proves them wrong. They both seems like good, honest people. If it turns out to be true, still doesn't mean they're not good peps.

Could be there's nothing to it now, but could be later. On the last show she did say she kissed him this time, so maybe she was starting to like him . . .

grace
11-30-2007, 09:16 PM
It comes out that apparently some charity group Marie is involved with was sending out TWO MILLION emails a week asking people to vote for Marie...Not actually cheating, but pretty lame in my opinion. Now I know how she survived so long; it certainly wasn't her dancing skills....

Unless it comes out that the 2 million e-mails threatened peoples lives if they didn't vote for her I don't see what the big deal is. WRTV what hyping Helio practically every night on the news.

Popularity or lack there of is always a reason for when people get voted off. That model who got axed on week two lost because no one knew who the hell he was. Sabrina lost because a) no one had ever heard of a Cheetah girl and b) everyone assumed she was going to get enough votes so they all voted for Marie instead.

heywoode
12-01-2007, 05:50 PM
Unless it comes out that the 2 million e-mails threatened peoples lives if they didn't vote for her I don't see what the big deal is. WRTV what hyping Helio practically every night on the news.

Popularity or lack there of is always a reason for when people get voted off. That model who got axed on week two lost because no one knew who the hell he was. Sabrina lost because a) no one had ever heard of a Cheetah girl and b) everyone assumed she was going to get enough votes so they all voted for Marie instead.

The problem with the emails were that they were saying to vote for Marie but not because of her dancing ability. I'm a purist by nature, so spamming two million people to turn it into a popularity contest is what I have a problem with. Every season so far, the best dancers have been the ones who got to stay. This season lost a lot of credibility for the show because of it's exploding popularity and the fact that it gets more and more about who people like and less and less about who can dance the best.

I wasn't too sure about Mel B. when the show started, but she impressed me with her dancing ability. Like her or not, she was a finalist, and has a decent argument for being a worthwhile champion even though she came in second. On quite a few nights, she impressed far more than Helio did, but Helio had the benefit of Julianne as a partner, and her dancing/choreography skills are highly regarded. She is liked because she is nice and blonde and sweet, but she is ALSO very well respected as a dancer.

I don't care if half the country loves Marie because of her personality and her doll making ability, she has dancing skills that should have been voted off about halfway through the show...

It will never change, so I might as well quit *****ing about it. Regardless of whether it will change or not, the truth remains that it should be based on dancing ability even when the fans are voting. That was the intent, and there's no getting around it. If it weren't about the dancing, they would've just had Oprah interviewing them all and then had people vote on who they liked the best.

grace
12-01-2007, 11:41 PM
Every season so far, the best dancers have been the ones who got to stay.

Did you watch season one? I refuse to believe that Kelly Monaco was one of the two best dancers that season. I'd go as far as to say she's at best the 11th best out of the 5 seasons the show has been on the air.

heywoode
12-02-2007, 12:12 AM
Did you watch season one? I refuse to believe that Kelly Monaco was one of the two best dancers that season. I'd go as far as to say she's at best the 11th best out of the 5 seasons the show has been on the air.


I didn't watch season one nearly as much as the last few, but I thought Kelly was just fine. I think the show, and the quality of dancing (the competition too) has come a long way in the last two seasons...

I think in every season, there are a few celebrities who are thrown in there to get a sense of variety and to garner a larger demographic. I think the producers may have seen during this season that appealing to a broader demographic by adding some over-the-hill celebrities may not be worth getting some extra ratings points when those celebrities start dominating the voting based more on popularity...Maybe not, but maybe...

I'm sure there was a good bit of fan votes cast for Kelly Monaco on the basis that she was hot as fire, wore skimpy outfits and posed nude in Playboy. The sad thing is, I can honestly say that none of that would have mattered to me if I was casting votes...

I guess it's not "sad", but the red-blooded male pig in me thinks it is...That guy is saying that she SHOULD have gotten votes for those reasons regardless of her dancing prowess...That kind of thinking isn't much different than voting for Marie because someone likes her or likes her dolls or likes her charity work...The real me wouldn't have voted for Kelly based on those reasons, so the pig in me thinks it's sad that I would vote based on dancing rather than sex appeal...