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DisplacedKnick
10-20-2007, 12:06 PM
OK everyone, this is the thread where, for now, all KL transactions must be conducted.

Transaction rules are pretty simple.

1) For a trade to be valid 2 messages must be posted - one from each trade partner (and if you work a multi-team deal, one from each owner involved)

2) For trades, you can trade draft picks from each of the next 2 drafts - fall 2008 and fall 2009. I don't want to have to keep track of picks from 5 years from now.

3) All traded draft picks will be unconditional - no top-10 protected or anything.

4) For FA's, you can simply announce add/drops here. No priority since nobody's played a game. Dropped players will immediately be available for acquisition. We may change that once the season starts but for now, once they're dropped, they're available.

5) Roster size must be kept at 12 - at least for now. If you want to change that, start a vote thread. The current league rule has 12 as max roster size but can be changed by a vote.

I'll add to the above as more issues come up - I'm sure they will.

I'll also be editing this initial post by inserting the rosters for each league team once I get them added to my file. I'll edit those as I get the chance as transactions take place.

Here are the rosters - check them over and make sure they were correct AT THE TIME THE DRAFT ENDED.

I'm a little fried right now and am gonna take some time to get away from the PC. I'll get on later this PM and update once the initial add/drop frenzy cools down.

Amsterdam Mourning
Speedy Claxton
Mo Williams
Etan Thomas
Channing Frye
Shelden Williams
Udonis Haslem
David Lee
Shaun Livingston
Charlie Villanueva
Greg Oden
Jordan Farmar
Sergio Rodriguez

Bad News kerosene
Leandro Barbosa
Brevin Knight
Steve Nash
Tim Duncan
Erick Dampier
Alonzo Mourning
Richard Jefferson
Rashard Lewis
Tony Parker
Carlos Arroyo
Reggie Evans
Adonal Foyle

Bangkok jose slaughter
Kobe Bryant
Andre Miller
Gerald Green
Anderson Varejao
Hakim Warrick
Kendrick Perkins
Pau Gasol
Kirk Hinrich
J.J. Redick
Spencer Hawes
Robert Swift
Amir Johnson

Burnzone Burnzone
Monta Ellis
Kevin Martin
Brandon Roy
David West
Shawne Williams
Boris Diaw
Emeka Okafor
Joel Przybilla
Marvin Williams
Mike Conley Jr
Martell Webster
Aaron Gray

Venice Los Angeles
T.J. Ford
Deron Williams
Eddy Curry
Andre Iguodala
Mickael Pietrus
Chris Kaman
Rudy Gay
Danny Granger
Grant Hill
Yi Jianlian
Primoz Brezec
Keith Bogans

Cedar City Dr Badd
Sam Cassell
Jason Williams
Antawn Jamison
Jason Richardson
Dirk Nowitzki
Rasheed Wallace
Carmelo Anthony
Sebastian Telfair
Tyrus Thomas
Jeff Green
Rafer Alston
Daniel Gibson

Cleveland Scott H
Anthony Parker
Chris Paul
Shane Battier
Josh Childress
Shawn Marion
Shaquille O'Neal
Ron Turiaf
Nenad Krstic
Troy Murphy
Bonzi Wells
Rashad McCants
Louis Williams


Denton Rimfire
Mike Bibby
Jarrett Jack
Nate Robinson
Mehmet Okur
Carlos Boozer
Francisco Garcia
LeBron James
Joe Johnson
Josh Smith
Andres Nocioni
Antonio McDyess
Shareef Abdur-Rahim

Dynamite tnt
Steve Francis
Jason Terry
Caron Butler
Vince Carter
Ben Wallace
Steve Blake
Nene Hilario
Luke Ridnour
Stromile Swift
Joakim Noah
Theo Ratliff
Kenyon Martin

Gnawbone PacerTom
Rodney Carney
Allen Iverson
Kyle Lowry
Ryan Gomes
Paul Millsap
Tim Thomas
Brad Miller
Amare Stoudemire
Jameer Nelson
Luis Scola
Jeff Foster
Dorrell Wright

Gotham City Boston Connection
Stephon Marbury
Rajon Rondo
Gerald Wallace
LaMarcus Aldridge
Al Jefferson
Hilton Armstrong
Nick Collison
Marquis Daniels
Luol Deng
Acie Law
Chris Mihm
Walter Hermann

Harlem Mr. Chill
Manu Ginobili
Marcus Williams
Craig Smith
Tyson Chandler
Chris Wilcox
Andrew Bynum
Jose Calderon
Randy Foye
Tracy McGrady
Al Horford
Julian Wright
Andray Blatche

London able
Jamaal Tinsley
Quentin Richardson
J.R. Smith
Adam Morrison
Tayshaun Prince
Francisco Elson
Andris Biedrins
Mike Miller
Hedo Turkoglu
Brandan Wright
Morris Peterson
Eduardo Najera

Manila SuperReggie
Raja Bell
Desmond Mason
Elton Brand
Paul Pierce
Kenny Thomas
Jamaal Magloire
Earl Boykins
Zaza Pachulia
Michael Redd
Marco Bellinelli
Steven Hunter
Mikki Moore

NZ GO!!!!
Richard Hamilton
Cuttino Mobley
Andrei Kirilenko
Kyle Korver
Al Harrington
Dwight Howard
Andrew Bogut
Mike Dunleavy
Bobby Simmons
Rodney Stuckey
Donyell Marshall
Aaron Afflo

Roaming Gnome
Raymond Felton
Zach Randolph
Glen Davis
Damien Wilkins
Marcus Camby
Drew Gooden
Jason Kidd
Ruben Patterson
Dwyane Wade
Juan Carlos Navarro
Jorge Garbajosa
Morris Allmond

San Antonio Sycamore Ken
Chauncey Billups
Luther Head
Larry Hughes
Chris Bosh
Kevin Garnett
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Jamal Crawford
Lamar Odom
Luke Walton
Thaddeus Young
Kurt Thomas
Derek Fisher

St. Somewhere Doug
Ronnie Brewer
Baron Davis
Josh Howard
Ron Artest
Matt Barnes
Ike Diogu
Yao Ming
Gilbert Arenas
Darko Milicic
Corey Brewer
Nick Young
Sean Williams

Serenity Valley Browncoats Mal
Ricky Davis
Stephen Jackson
Jason Maxiell
Wally Szczerbiak
Andrea Bargnani
Travis Diener
Charlie Bell
Brendan Haywood
Peja Stojakovic
Kevin Durant
Javaris Crittenton
Mark Blount

West Lafayette Kraft
Ben Gordon
Devin Harris
Delonte West
Trevor Ariza
Corey Maggette
Samuel Dalembert
Jermaine O'Neal
Ray Allen
Darius Miles
Al Thornton
Travis Outlaw
Kalenna Azubuike

Hicks
10-20-2007, 12:07 PM
Browncoats drop Tony Battie

Browncoats pick up Travis Diener

Skaut_Ech
10-20-2007, 12:09 PM
I'm dropping Anthony Johnson and picking up Ronnie Turiaf.

I'm also adding Louis Williams from the Sixers to round my roster out at 12 players

Kraft
10-20-2007, 12:12 PM
W. Laf -- Drop Walter Hermann, add Kalenna Azubuike.

Hicks
10-20-2007, 12:15 PM
Roaming Gnome drops Chris Webber.

Roaming Gnome picks up Glen "Big Baby" Davis.

tnt09
10-20-2007, 03:14 PM
Dynamite drops Juwan Howard.

Dynamite picks up Theo Ratliff.

Jose Slaughter
10-20-2007, 08:13 PM
Looks like I need to make some moves.

Guards: Kobe Bryant - Andre Miller - Kirk Hinrich - J.J. Redick

Guard/Forward: Gerald Green

Forward: Anderson Varejao - Hakim Warrick - Amir Johnson

Center: Pau Gasol - Kendrick Perkins - Spencer Hawes - Robert Swift

I'm looking ok at G, thin at F & over stocked at C. Varejao is still unsigned & Gasol, usually a FC is only listed as a C on NBA.com.

Anyone need a C thats over stocked at F?

DrBadd01
10-20-2007, 08:29 PM
Looks like I need to make some moves.

Guards: Kobe Bryant - Andre Miller - Kirk Hinrich - J.J. Redick

Guard/Forward: Gerald Green

Forward: Anderson Varejao - Hakim Warrick - Amir Johnson

Center: Pau Gasol - Kendrick Perkins - Spencer Hawes - Robert Swift

I'm looking ok at G, thin at F & over stocked at C. Varejao is still unsigned & Gasol, usually a FC is only listed as a C on NBA.com.

Anyone need a C thats over stocked at F?

Weren't we keeping the same Positions that we previously had on sports.ws?

Los Angeles
10-20-2007, 09:23 PM
Looks like I need to make some moves.

Guards: Kobe Bryant - Andre Miller - Kirk Hinrich - J.J. Redick

Guard/Forward: Gerald Green

Forward: Anderson Varejao - Hakim Warrick - Amir Johnson

Center: Pau Gasol - Kendrick Perkins - Spencer Hawes - Robert Swift

I'm looking ok at G, thin at F & over stocked at C. Varejao is still unsigned & Gasol, usually a FC is only listed as a C on NBA.com.

Anyone need a C thats over stocked at F?
Tell me if you see anything you like.

Of course, I reserve the right to laugh at unbalanced trade offers. ;)

Jose Slaughter
10-20-2007, 10:36 PM
Weren't we keeping the same Positions that we previously had on sports.ws?

Its my understanding that we're using the NBA.com positions until they pass a vote. In my case, Gasol has been a F most of his career that has played C & passed a vote to be listed as a CF. This year he's listed as a C. Finding enough info to get a FC vote passed will be a little tougher.

That leaves me with 4 players that only play C.

Gasol, Perkins & Swift are all starters & I think Hawes is going to be the next really good big man. So, for now, I'm kinda stuck, especially with Varejao unsigned.

I can look around for some offers but the bottom line is, if Gasol can pass a FC vote in the first week or two of the season, I'll keep what I've got.

DrBadd01
10-20-2007, 11:10 PM
If that is the case. . . . . . . . . . . :(

SycamoreKen
10-20-2007, 11:58 PM
Its my understanding that we're using the NBA.com positions until they pass a vote. In my case, Gasol has been a F most of his career that has played C & passed a vote to be listed as a CF. This year he's listed as a C. Finding enough info to get a FC vote passed will be a little tougher.

That leaves me with 4 players that only play C.

Gasol, Perkins & Swift are all starters & I think Hawes is going to be the next really good big man. So, for now, I'm kinda stuck, especially with Varejao unsigned.

I can look around for some offers but the bottom line is, if Gasol can pass a FC vote in the first week or two of the season, I'll keep what I've got.

If that is the case then we are on opposite ends of the spectrum. I have one center, Z. and seven forwards. If Bosh does not get F/C eligability I'm in trouble and need to make a big trade.

I have a question regaurding about which area we are getting the position eligability from? On the player pages they only list one position for the player:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ricky_davis/index.html?nav=page

but in the fantasy section it lists the postitions they are eligable for fantasy wise:

http://www.nba.com/fantasy/depthcharts_wc2.html

This is also different from the team roster page:

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/roster/

We need to get this matter resolved ASAP so everyone can know where they stand with their rosters. I will probably need to make a move any how since Bosh only has eligability as a F.

DrBadd01
10-21-2007, 02:28 AM
If that is the case then we are on opposite ends of the spectrum. I have one center, Z. and seven forwards. If Bosh does not get F/C eligability I'm in trouble and need to make a big trade.

I have a question regaurding about which area we are getting the position eligability from? On the player pages they only list one position for the player:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ricky_davis/index.html?nav=page

but in the fantasy section it lists the postitions they are eligable for fantasy wise:

http://www.nba.com/fantasy/depthcharts_wc2.html

This is also different from the team roster page:

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/roster/

We need to get this matter resolved ASAP so everyone can know where they stand with their rosters. I will probably need to make a move any how since Bosh only has eligability as a F.

I hear ya. If the eligibility changes than I have 5 forwards and lose my starting center.

Mistachill
10-21-2007, 06:40 AM
Drops Oleksiy Pecherov

DisplacedKnick
10-21-2007, 02:39 PM
If that is the case then we are on opposite ends of the spectrum. I have one center, Z. and seven forwards. If Bosh does not get F/C eligability I'm in trouble and need to make a big trade.

I have a question regaurding about which area we are getting the position eligability from? On the player pages they only list one position for the player:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ricky_davis/index.html?nav=page

but in the fantasy section it lists the postitions they are eligable for fantasy wise:

http://www.nba.com/fantasy/depthcharts_wc2.html

This is also different from the team roster page:

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/roster/

We need to get this matter resolved ASAP so everyone can know where they stand with their rosters. I will probably need to make a move any how since Bosh only has eligability as a F.

This is actually an able question - I don't have an answer. Personally, Okur's player page and Utah's roster page both have him listed as F - based on that alone I know I'll have at least 1 vote to put up and probably more, if that's where the position assignments come from. Not terribly worried right now but by this weekend we should all think about voting.

Keep in mind I do have the position assignments from the 05-06 season (for players who were on a roster that summer). If everyone prefers and IF it doesn't screw up what able needs to do I can use that - but keep in mind that at the end of the 1st KL season we decided to not carry over position changes from 1 year to the next but to go with the site assignments and vote on any changes the next year. So I guess that would take a vote, along with it being OK with able.

SycamoreKen
10-21-2007, 03:46 PM
This is actually an able question - I don't have an answer. Personally, Okur's player page and Utah's roster page both have him listed as F - based on that alone I know I'll have at least 1 vote to put up and probably more, if that's where the position assignments come from. Not terribly worried right now but by this weekend we should all think about voting.

Keep in mind I do have the position assignments from the 05-06 season (for players who were on a roster that summer). If everyone prefers and IF it doesn't screw up what able needs to do I can use that - but keep in mind that at the end of the 1st KL season we decided to not carry over position changes from 1 year to the next but to go with the site assignments and vote on any changes the next year. So I guess that would take a vote, along with it being OK with able.

I'm cool with not carrying them over from last year. I think we may have gone away from that, but I like that actually. We just need to make sure we all agree where we are starting from.

I'm not sure the "real" roster listings on web pages are adjusted through the season for the range of positions a player may play as often as the listings on the fantasy sites are. Maybe the starting list of positions needs to be from what the majority of fantasy sites have a player as verses what their "real" postition listing is? I know this would take some time to compile, so maybe it is not possible this season, but it may be an enhancement we look to in the futre.

Slick Pinkham
10-22-2007, 01:28 AM
I remember running across a stats-based NBA site awhile back that had a player notes section where they had per-game breakdowns for multiposition players, for example,

Player X played 67 games total last year
He played 23 games at primarily at shooting guard
He played 44 games primarily at small forward


I remember thinking "I should bookmark that site" but I didn't. Anybody else see something like that? I'm not sure where they based their info, but it seemed reasonable for a few guys that I looked at.

able
10-22-2007, 05:17 AM
OK since I'm mentioned here:

I do not decide what the position of the players is, in fact I could not care less (from a coding point of view) because if I want to make JO play G I can!

However that said; the rules have been that we take the position from "a" site, in this case NBA.com, and form there ppl ask for votes.

The votes have a set of rules as in proof and such and I am all in favour of doing it that way, because frankly carrying it over is silly, just because some player played C instead of F for 2 or 3 months due to an injury or whatever doesn't mean he's going to see 1 minute at the C this year

So if you can make a case for a positionchange, then fine by me, if not, then as they say here; you're sod out of luck.

Slick Pinkham
10-22-2007, 09:01 AM
However that said; the rules have been that we take the position from "a" site, in this case NBA.com, and form there ppl ask for votes.


But where on the NBA site are we pulling the position information, since it was noted that sometimes the team roster, the individual player profile, and the depth chart in the fantasy section (all on nba.com) have different information?

In theory I would prefer to start with the nba.com fantasy depth charts since the purpose of these pages is actually to advise people where team owners should be allowed to use players in fantasy basketball. I dont know if they are accurate enough thoough.

western conference: http://www.nba.com/fantasy/depthcharts_wc2.html
eastern conference: http://www.nba.com/fantasy/depthcharts_ec2.html

Every list seems to have some inaccuracies that need to be "fixed" by vote. In the links above, for example, Jermaine O'Neal is NOT listed as eligible as a Center but a PF only, and Peja and McGrady are listed as shooting guards with no eligibility for SF.

Skaut_Ech
10-22-2007, 09:45 AM
But where on the NBA site are we pulling the position information, since it was noted that sometimes the team roster, the individual player profile, and the depth chart in the fantasy section (all on nba.com) have different information?

In theory I would prefer to start with the nba.com fantasy depth charts since the purpose of these pages is actually to advise people where team owners should be allowed to use players in fantasy basketball. I dont know if they are accurate enough thoough.

western conference: http://www.nba.com/fantasy/depthcharts_wc2.html
eastern conference: http://www.nba.com/fantasy/depthcharts_ec2.html

Every list seems to have some inaccuracies that need to be "fixed" by vote. In the links above, for example, Jermaine O'Neal is NOT listed as eligible as a Center but a PF only, and Peja and McGrady are listed as shooting guards with no eligibility for SF.

We're like-minded on that. I liked their list too as our baseline for positions.

Mistachill
10-22-2007, 10:09 AM
Like Theo Ratliff listed a PG/SG.

Errors like that make me very leery of their list.


Every list seems to have some inaccuracies that need to be "fixed" by vote. In the links above, for example, Jermaine O'Neal is NOT listed as eligible as a Center but a PF only, and Peja and McGrady are listed as shooting guards with no eligibility for SF.

able
10-22-2007, 10:25 AM
Sorry but I pulled the data from the "official" NBA lists, not the fantasy lists, as they (imo) are less "official"

Playerlist & profile are what in principle will determine a position, that is the data I downloaded into the new databse, changing that for a few is ok, changing all data is a lot of work.

( as the fields are not in the same position, extrapoloating is not as easy so may need to be done "by hand" and that's a *****)

Slick Pinkham
10-22-2007, 10:29 AM
I have a glut at F, with six guys currently playing only that position:

Rodney Carney F
Dorrell Wright F
Ryan Gomes F
Paul Millsap F
Tim Thomas F
Luis Scola F

I could maybe use another G, particularly in a trade for any of the last four forwards above, who would be unlikely candidates for a GF vote.

DisplacedKnick
10-22-2007, 10:38 AM
Sorry but I pulled the data from the "official" NBA lists, not the fantasy lists, as they (imo) are less "official"

Playerlist & profile are what in principle will determine a position, that is the data I downloaded into the new databse, changing that for a few is ok, changing all data is a lot of work.

( as the fields are not in the same position, extrapoloating is not as easy so may need to be done "by hand" and that's a *****)

In just re-checking, it looks like NBA.com has updated their position lists - for my players, Okur has been changed to a center which is fine.

I'm going to put a position vote up for Shareef Abdur-Rahim just to remind everyone how it should be done. The important parts are:

1) Clear subject line - I would suggest: "Keeper League Position Vote - Player Name"

2) Justification - "He did last year" is not generally considered justification. You should have at least one and preferable several links

3) The poll itself - "Should 'playername' be changed from Center to Center-Forward" with 2 options - yes and no.

4) The vote should be set to end in 24 hours.

5) The vote should be public

In order to pass a vote needs at least 7 yes votes with more yes than no's - a 7-7 vote does not pass. Neither does 6-0 but 7-6 does.

Skaut_Ech
10-22-2007, 04:15 PM
I have a glut at F, with six guys currently playing only that position:

Rodney Carney F
Dorrell Wright F
Ryan Gomes F
Paul Millsap F
Tim Thomas F
Luis Scola F

I could maybe use another G, particularly in a trade for any of the last four forwards above, who would be unlikely candidates for a GF vote.

I had drafted Carney last year. He's a G/F. Check this out from the local Philly paper (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20071007_Sixers_Cheeks_trying_to_direct_talent_poo l.html).

"And one of the most interesting battles is at shooting guard, where Willie Green and Rodney Carney are competing. (Point guard Lou Williams also could see time at shooting guard.)

Carney is also able to play the small-forward spot."

DisplacedKnick
10-22-2007, 05:25 PM
Denton drops Johan Petro

Denton picks up Francisco Garcia

BostonConnection
10-22-2007, 07:08 PM
Gotham drops DeSagana Diop

Gotham picks up Walter Hermann

DisplacedKnick
10-24-2007, 07:35 AM
I hate to do this but I need to add another guard.

Denton drops Matt Barnes
Denton picks up Nate Robinson

Doug
10-24-2007, 08:01 AM
St. Somewhere drops Joey Graham
St. Somewhere picks up Matt Barnes

Slick Pinkham
10-24-2007, 08:25 AM
Gnawbone drops G Smush Parker and picks up G Kyle Lowry

DisplacedKnick
10-24-2007, 06:32 PM
St. Somewhere drops Joey Graham
St. Somewhere picks up Matt Barnes

A curse upon you ...

(summons Ulysses Randolph Kurst)

From UR Kurst: "May Azubujahoobie take all of Matt Barnes' minutes."

burnzone
10-25-2007, 03:36 AM
Burnzone drops Mark Blount, and picks up Aaron Gray of the Chicago Bulls.

Doug
10-25-2007, 08:37 AM
A curse upon you ...

(summons Ulysses Randolph Kurst)

From UR Kurst: "May Azubujahoobie take all of Matt Barnes' minutes."

Sorry about that, Chief.

Hicks
10-25-2007, 10:31 AM
Browncoats drop Nazr Mohammed
Browncoats pick up Mark Blount

DisplacedKnick
10-25-2007, 05:29 PM
Sorry about that, Chief.

Prob'ly won't take anyway - as you can tell, the curse was a little garbled - had to place a quick call to Jamaica and the reception wasn't what it could be - plus I think he was in the middle of a drunk.

Team budget's a bit tight this year since we only made the 2nd rd of the playoffs. And we never got him in before the last month of the season anyway. Plus we're still trying to figure our way around that pesky chicken incident we had at customs. :-o

Doug
10-25-2007, 09:38 PM
Prob'ly won't take anyway - as you can tell, the curse was a little garbled - had to place a quick call to Jamaica and the reception wasn't what it could be - plus I think he was in the middle of a drunk.

Team budget's a bit tight this year since we only made the 2nd rd of the playoffs. And we never got him in before the last month of the season anyway. Plus we're still trying to figure our way around that pesky chicken incident we had at customs. :-o

When you can't afford a first-rate curse, you can't afford a curse.

IMO, a better approach is to get properly prepared chicken bones on eBay and do it yourself from there. There's just too many things that can go wrong when you start with the live chicken.

SycamoreKen
10-28-2007, 06:08 PM
San Antonio drops Alando Tucker

San Antonio picks up Kurt Thomas

With Bosh not being a F/C any more, it was bound to happen, I need minutes filled.

GO!!!!!
10-28-2007, 09:49 PM
NZ Drops Atkins

Picks Up Aaron Afflo

DisplacedKnick
10-29-2007, 05:47 PM
I've just updated the transactions. I'm about to assign players on the sports.ws site. Any transactions after this post will only go on able's site.

There are 3 owners who didn't log in so I'll create 'bot teams with their players - if they want to join later, they can send me their usernames and I'll change the team ownership to them.

My time is extremely limited between tonight and next Thursday so you will see very little of me between now and then except maybe on Sunday.

Mistachill
10-29-2007, 07:56 PM
Will the successful position votes on the forum be reflected on the ws site by the first deadline?

DisplacedKnick
10-29-2007, 08:07 PM
Will the successful position votes on the forum be reflected on the ws site by the first deadline?

I have no way to change positions on the ws site - those have to be by league vote on that site. It's not a commish power.

Los Angeles
10-29-2007, 08:21 PM
So am I supposed to set my lineup on there? Or am I supposed to wait for able's site?

Slick Pinkham
10-30-2007, 12:27 PM
If a player qualifies for a position on sports.ws and I use him there in my lineup, and he is not qualified to play that position based upon the nba.com listing that we are supposedly going by, what happens when we "move" onto able's site? Do I lose his minutes? Will we be moving to able's site?

I was going to wait-and-see before putting him up for a vote here, since I don't have to put him up for a vote there. I am talking about Amare, a F/C at sports.ws and a guy who these days usually plays center unless he is alongside Diaw.

DrBadd01
10-30-2007, 10:03 PM
Cedar City drops Sabastian Telfair picks up Sasha Pavlovic.

DrBadd01
10-30-2007, 10:05 PM
If a player qualifies for a position on sports.ws and I use him there in my lineup, and he is not qualified to play that position based upon the nba.com listing that we are supposedly going by, what happens when we "move" onto able's site? Do I lose his minutes? Will we be moving to able's site?

I was going to wait-and-see before putting him up for a vote here, since I don't have to put him up for a vote there. I am talking about Amare, a F/C at sports.ws and a guy who these days usually plays center unless he is alongside Diaw.

We should just transition the positions from sports.ws to ables site. It would solve all of our problems.