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Unclebuck
01-27-2004, 08:57 AM
Interesting comments by AJ. Those have been the rumors for a few years now



http://www.indystar.com/articles/9/115168-5679-036.html

Nets fire Scott despite 2 trips to NBA Finals
Former Pacers coaching candidate let go with team in 1st place in Atlantic Division.


Winning isn't everything

A look at the records of Rick Carlisle (Detroit), Isiah Thomas (Indiana) and Byron Scott (New Jersey) when they were fired.

Coach Season Record
Carlisle 2001-03 100-64
Thomas 2000-03 131-115
Scott 2000-04 149-139




By Mark Montieth
mark.montieth@indystar.com
January 27, 2004


The circle is now complete for the candidates for the Indiana Pacers' head coaching position four years ago.

Rick Carlisle, Isiah Thomas and Byron Scott, all of whom interviewed for the opportunity to replace Larry Bird after the Pacers reached the NBA Finals in 2000, have been fired despite compiling winning records.

Scott joined the unlikely club Monday when he was released by New Jersey despite coaching the Nets to the Finals the past two seasons.

Thomas was hired by the Pacers in 2000 and guided a young team through a rebuilding phase with a 131-115 record. He was fired in August and is now president of the New York Knicks.

Carlisle sat out of coaching one year, then led the Pistons to two 50-win seasons and won a Coach of the Year award. He was released in May, but replaced Thomas in September.

Now Scott is unemployed after going 149-139 despite taking over a non-contending team in 2000. The Nets, 22-20, had been erratic this season but still led the weak Atlantic Division.

"We all go into these jobs knowing it's high stakes and high pressure," Carlisle said. "I think Byron's done a great job. He went into the last year of his contract without an extension with great integrity and great dignity.

"He's one of these guys who's going to get a great job right away if he wants one."

Pacers guard Reggie Miller, a close friend of Scott's and a teammate during Scott's two seasons with the Pacers (1993-95), was puzzled by the move.

"I guess getting to the Finals twice in a row isn't good enough," he said. "There had to be some other factor there."

Anthony Johnson agrees, and knows of those factors. Johnson played for the Nets the past two seasons and saw firsthand the issues that cost Scott his job.

Scott, according to Johnson, let his assistants do much of the work and suffered a major loss when Eddie Jordan became the head coach at Washington, taking Mike O'Koren with him.

"I didn't think he would make it out of the year," Johnson said. "Not necessarily because of their record. But with Eddie Jordan and Mike O'Koren not there, that was pretty much the brain trust of that team.

"We had tough times last year after the All-Star break and in the Finals and they've had tough times during the season. When you're going through tough times you have to look at yourself in the mirror and say, 'Am I doing all I can to help this team?' I think that question would rear its head a lot concerning Byron Scott."Nets team president Rod Thorn said at a news conference Monday he thought about firing Scott for more than a month.

"It happens to almost every coach eventually: Your message isn't well received and taken onto the court," Thorn said. "I felt it would turn itself around, and for a while it did. But it became evident to me that it wasn't going to turn around. We have not played to the level we anticipated playing."

The Nets will finish the season with an interim coach, Lawrence Frank, but the Pacers expect them to remain a factor in the Eastern Conference playoff chase as long as Jason Kidd is playing point guard.

"With J. Kidd, they're always in it," Al Harrington said. "This might be a rallying call for them. They've got the same core guys that went to the Finals the last two years. They know how to win."

Unclebuck
01-27-2004, 09:17 AM
Here is Vescey's take on the situation. I am always facinated by coaching hirings, firings, changes.

One thing I can say about Rick Carlisle, there is not a doubt in my mind that he knows what he is doing. Players may not like him but they respect his basketball instincts


http://nypost.com/sports/nets/45177.htm

Ragnar
01-27-2004, 10:11 AM
Didnt Larry bird run the Pacers the same way?

I wonder what the difference was. Was it that Bird was more respected as a legend or more likley the players here were not coach killers and were all motivated to get to the finals.

I know a lot of people like to say that Scott never made it to the finals without Jason Kidd (not exactly true but as a coach yes) but Jason Kidd never made the finals without Scott.

I thought that the choice should have been soley between Rick and Byron last time and when it was between the three they made the worst choice.

The thing about Byron is that he really had a lot to do with the Pacers becoming a respectable team. He hit what at the time was the biggest shot in Pacer history. He helped Reggie become the clutch player he is today and he brought the swagger and confidence to take the Pacers to another level. On that I thought he should have been the coach. On the other hand Rick had a LOT to do with them going to the finals in 00 he clearly had to be the front runner.

The only way you go with anyone other than Rick is if you need a change (which they claimed at the time) So why didnt they go with Byron? I dont think I will ever understand that.

Unclebuck
01-27-2004, 10:28 AM
Didnt Larry bird run the Pacers the same way?

I wonder what the difference was. Was it that Bird was more respected as a legend or more likley the players here were not coach killers and were all motivated to get to the finals.

The only way you go with anyone other than Rick is if you need a change (which they claimed at the time) So why didnt they go with Byron? I dont think I will ever understand that.

as to why they did not bring in Byron, who was my first choice at the time. There was a time issue involved. My take is Byron did not want to wait until after the NBA Finals to see if maybe he would get the job here. Others have argued that point.


I think the players respected Bird not because he was a legend, that might last a day or two, but because the way he went about things, the way he handled the players and just the way he was. Bird did more coahcing in his third season.

One other point if Rick and Dick left after year two who knows what might have happened

Ragnar
01-27-2004, 10:40 AM
One other point if Rick and Dick left after year two who knows what might have happened

Very true.

Doug
01-27-2004, 10:54 AM
Not everybody in the East can have the job security of Terry Stotts.


Now that's funny!

MSA2CF
01-27-2004, 10:57 AM
Not everybody in the East can have the job security of Terry Stotts.


Now that's funny!

Sure is. :laugh:

I happen to think that Jim O'Brien will be fired either during the season or after it. Then Stotts will be the only Eastern Conference coach still with the same team as last season. :pepper:

Ragnar
01-27-2004, 11:08 AM
Not everybody in the East can have the job security of Terry Stotts.


Now that's funny!

Sure is. :laugh:

I happen to think that Jim O'Brien will be fired either during the season or after it. Then Stotts will be the only Eastern Conference coach still with the same team as last season. :pepper:

Stotts will get canned by the end of the season. I think Ainge will wait untill the Celts tank it in the playoffs to fire O'brien.

MSA2CF
01-27-2004, 11:11 AM
Not everybody in the East can have the job security of Terry Stotts.


Now that's funny!

Sure is. :laugh:

I happen to think that Jim O'Brien will be fired either during the season or after it. Then Stotts will be the only Eastern Conference coach still with the same team as last season. :pepper:

Stotts will get canned by the end of the season. I think Ainge will wait untill the Celts tank it in the playoffs to fire O'brien.

Probably. Ainge will be asking Bird who to hire. I wonder how Byron Scott in Boston would fit.

Ragnar
01-27-2004, 05:34 PM
Not everybody in the East can have the job security of Terry Stotts.


Now that's funny!

Sure is. :laugh:

I happen to think that Jim O'Brien will be fired either during the season or after it. Then Stotts will be the only Eastern Conference coach still with the same team as last season. :pepper:

MSA2CF wins the timley post of the week award. :rockon2: :worship: :meditate: