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Kstat
08-08-2007, 05:23 AM
http://www.nba.com/features/dream_team_numbers_070807.html

Today is the 15th anniversary of the dream team winning the gold medal in Barcelona.

To this day, it's the best-passing team I've ever seen, and I highly doubt I'll ever see anything like it.

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Cobol Sam
08-08-2007, 07:18 AM
Great post!

travmil
08-08-2007, 08:34 AM
Great videos. It amazes me every time I think about how exponentially the skills of the rest of the world rose in just 10 years. It took monumental beat downs from this team for the rest of the world to realize just how far they had to go to compete with the US. You could tell those international teams just didn't know how to deal with an opponent where every guy on the floor knew exactly what to do in every situation, even when a play went bad.

JayRedd
08-08-2007, 11:51 AM
Of course I love the Dream Team, but I was expecting to see a thread about my Little League All Star team.

We still get no respect.

Pacersfan46
08-08-2007, 11:54 AM
I remember the scores, and watching some of the games, but I wish I was a little older to really appreciate what it was. We'll never see another team like that again. It just won't happen. It's sad.

:(

-- Steve --

Major Cold
08-08-2007, 01:45 PM
The best team ever to be assembled and to ever be assembled. We need like three more draft classes like Lebron's to even come close

GrangerRanger
08-08-2007, 02:14 PM
Great videos. It amazes me every time I think about how exponentially the skills of the rest of the world rose in just 10 years. It took monumental beat downs from this team for the rest of the world to realize just how far they had to go to compete with the US. You could tell those international teams just didn't know how to deal with an opponent where every guy on the floor knew exactly what to do in every situation, even when a play went bad.

Great post K-Stat.

They still really can't compete with us in my mind. It's just the last few times we haven't really sent our best players over. In 2003 we basically sent a bunch of young guys (D Wade, Lebron James, Emeka Okafor, etc...) and last year we didn't have Kobe Bryant. U.S is gonna return to something that half resembles that above. Which is still a gold medel team because The Dream Team would just blow people out.

Dr. Goldfoot
08-08-2007, 02:35 PM
That team would still mop the floor with international competition.

Charles Barkley
Larry Bird
Clyde Drexler
Patrick Ewing
Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
Karl Malone
Chris Mullin
Scottie Pippen
David Robinson
John Stockton
Christian Laettner?

They'd also mop the floor with whatever product USA puts out next time.

Gyron
08-08-2007, 03:12 PM
Was Reggie on Dream Team 1 or 2?

LG33
08-08-2007, 03:26 PM
Of course I love the Dream Team, but I was expecting to see a thread about my Little League All Star team.

We still get no respect.

Hahahaha.
The only reason I'm laughing is because your team sucked and yet you still expect a hero's welcome. The only reason you won that last game was because your 3rd baseman took a huge lead on EVERY base, even though stealing isn't allowed in that age group. Not to mention your pitcher's obvious pine tar obsession and the "Major League Chew Incident" in the bottom of the 4th inning.

Now, on the other hand, my soccer traveling team was boss that year...

JayRedd
08-08-2007, 03:48 PM
Now, on the other hand, my soccer traveling team was boss that year...

You guys may have been boss, but that team will always only be remembered for the Colombian drug lords that assassinated your 10-year-old center midfielder after he scored that own-goal to knock you out of the Playoffs.

And for the record, the kid had it coming.

I lost 25 Garbage Pail Kids betting the under on that damn game.


Was Reggie on Dream Team 1 or 2?

There was only one Dream Team, but Reg was on the 2nd USA team of NBA guys that played in the Olympics.

avoidingtheclowns
08-08-2007, 03:56 PM
There was only one Dream Team, but Reg was on the 2nd USA team of NBA guys that played in the Olympics.

technically i think there was a dream team 2 at the 1994 WBC in Toronto and Reggie was on that team.



1994 World Championship Team, or Dream Team II
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/40/DreamTeamIILogo.gif/150px-DreamTeamIILogo.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DreamTeamIILogo.gif) http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DreamTeamIILogo.gif)
"Dream Team II" logo.


The second Dream Team competed in the 1994 World Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_World_Championship), held in Toronto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto%2C_Ontario), Ontario (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario), Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada). This was an entirely new roster, as USA Basketball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Basketball) elected to showcase stars who were not present at the 1992 Olympics. Composed primarily of younger NBA players, the team lacked the widespread appeal of its predecessor but nevertheless continued its dominance. The 1994 roster included Isiah Thomas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isiah_Thomas) recently retired from the NBA, Shaquille O'Neal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaquille_O%27Neal), Reggie Miller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Miller), Dominique Wilkins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_Wilkins), Joe Dumars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Dumars), Alonzo Mourning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alonzo_Mourning), Mark Price (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Price), Shawn Kemp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_Kemp), Dan Majerle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Majerle), Derrick Coleman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_Coleman), Larry Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Johnson_%28basketball%29) and Kevin Johnson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Johnson). Coached by Don Nelson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Nelson) of the Golden State Warriors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Warriors), this team easily captured the gold medal in tournament play


YAY WIKIPEDIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men's_national_basketball_team)

Kstat
08-08-2007, 03:59 PM
Dream Team 2 was without a doubt the best-shooting team ever assembled, but as an overall team it was not on par with the original dream team, which excelled at every conceivable aspect of the game.

It was awesome to watch dream team 2 at times, though. They'd have stretches where they hit 6, 7, 8 shots in a row, and make it look easy. Dumars, Miller Majerle and Price had a field day with the closer 3-point line.

JayRedd
08-08-2007, 03:59 PM
Tecnically, I refer to myself exclusively as Senor Mysterioso II. That doesn't mean I'm actually mysterious though.

There was only one Dream Team, despite what some PR department has to say about it.

avoidingtheclowns
08-08-2007, 04:06 PM
Dream Team 2 was without a doubt the best-shooting team ever assembled, but as an overall team it was not on par with the original dream team, wich excelled at every conceivable aspect of the game.


Tecnically, I refer to myself exclusively as Senor Mysterioso II. That doesn't mean I'm actually mysterious though.

There was only one Dream Team, despite what some PR department has to say about it.

this is why i used the word technically there was a dream team II. meaning it technically existed but no it definitely did not compare to '92

Since86
08-08-2007, 04:06 PM
I hope you can keep this pace up Jay, or you've peaked way too soon for Most Humorous.

Naptown_Seth
08-08-2007, 04:14 PM
Great videos. It amazes me every time I think about how exponentially the skills of the rest of the world rose in just 10 years.
I actually disagree. That first clip featured quality NBA guys like Kukoc and Sabonis getting punked on, both while they were young enough to be at their best. Arvy even as an aging player was one of the top fundamentals big men you'd like to see and when he was younger he was quick too.

The key is that youthful or in their prime guys like Robinson or Pippen were that much better than them. Don't try to tell me that any of the international guys would have stopped that Admiral throwdown on Arvy, or that Kukoc didn't get eaten for lunch trying to go lane by some elite defenders.

That team would DESTROY this current version. It wouldn't be close. You forget just how fundamentally strong they were, as KStat mentioned how great their passing skills were, and how comfortable even aging or slow guys like Magic, Bird and Mullin were with playing uptempo ball movement and aggressive defense. I mean Mully gets a backdoor steal and break even.

To me a young Robinson is better than Duncan, he's far more athletic and quick. Jordan was better than Lebron is now. Barkley was better than Bosh is. Drexler was WAY better than Melo is. And so on.


What I see is just how far down US/NBA ball has fallen, how much good fundamentals have been lost and just how much slower it is as a game. I'd blame the Bad Boys, but they could play some serious offense. It had more to do with Pat Riley's Knicks/Heat and those Cavs teams post Price/BD era.

Naptown_Seth
08-08-2007, 04:17 PM
Tecnically, I refer to myself exclusively as Senor Mysterioso II. That doesn't mean I'm actually mysterious though.
Does that come with a cape?


And for the record, the kid had it coming.
Oh Booger. He couldn't help he had 2 left feet and a penchant for mining. But drug lords never have been understanding about the frail and mishapen. I just don't get where you come off piling on like that.

JayRedd
08-08-2007, 04:26 PM
I hope you can keep this pace up Jay, or you've peaked way too soon for Most Humorous.

Flattering, but no chance. I'll soon hopefully have a job where they fire people as unproductive as me.


Does that come with a cape?

Tophat.

Naptown_Seth
08-08-2007, 04:49 PM
Tophat.
See, I can't compete with that, not that quick, I never saw it coming. This is why I stick to arguing, my forte. You can go run with the big dogs like Rat.

ps - his Monster House Kegboy probably still has him in the lead

avoidingtheclowns
08-08-2007, 04:51 PM
ps - his Monster House Kegboy probably still has him in the lead

maybe i should introduce you to this guy (http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/member.php?u=8783)... the competition is already over. lets please move on.

LG33
08-08-2007, 04:56 PM
And for the record, the kid had it coming.

I'll don't remember the last thing Juan Pablo La Toya Jackson said to me before he was gunned down, but it was one of those things you never forget. :cry:

ChicagoJ
08-08-2007, 04:57 PM
LG33 is a worthy runner up. But haven't you seen Stanky's Gang? MR has already clinched again, I think.

MagicRat gets forum MVP nominations while completely avoiding making serious basketball posts. That's impressive.

LG33
08-08-2007, 04:59 PM
maybe i should introduce you to this guy (http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/member.php?u=8783)... the competition is already over. lets please move on.

Hahah, I'm flattered, but I bow to the master MR as well.

P.S. I would pwn JayRedd. He's so not "now". I mean, he still regrets losing Garbage Pail Kids.

avoidingtheclowns
08-08-2007, 05:02 PM
Hahah, I'm flattered, but I bow to the master MR as well.

P.S. I would pwn JayRedd. He's so not "now". I mean, he still regrets losing Garbage Pail Kids.

don't worry, you'll still pull this out. all we need is a bigman coach...

LG33
08-08-2007, 05:03 PM
LG33 is a worthy runner up. But haven't you seen Stanky's Gang? MR has already clinched again, I think.

MagicRat gets forum MVP nominations while completely avoiding making serious basketball posts. That's impressive.

Yeah, seriously I have that as my Facebook profile pic (with everyone except Stanko and Jamaal cropped out). I have a lot of factors going against me, like my support for TD, KR and Stanko, my political views, and my failed attempts at serious basketball posts. I suppose I could add to this list the fact that I've admitted to having a facebook profile...

I mean, you have to applaud a man like MR, who can win the popular vote while simultaneously being Jamaal Tinsley's #1 defender. Plus, his photoshop skills overshadow my MS paint and tetherball skills any day.

Naptown_Seth
08-08-2007, 05:13 PM
LG is the other one in the running, I almost mentioned him.

But Rat...I just don't know how he does it sometimes. I'm moderately comfortable with Paint Shop Pro but the speed he pulls off some of these, it's like he's a news network working up every possible obit just to have it ready in case someone dies.

Does Rat have gigs worth of every possible mock up photograph you can think of?

PD Party as Spice Girls!? - "got it"

Peck and JO as two-headed man from film "The Things with Two Heads" - "got it"

Wait, Peck as Greer, not Milland - "got it both ways"

JayRedd in top hat and cape with a Richie Retch card falling out of his pocket - "got it, and all possible card variations including ones for the movie"

JayRedd
08-08-2007, 05:53 PM
JayRedd in top hat and cape with a Richie Retch card falling out of his pocket - "got it, and all possible card variations including ones for the movie"

There's no cape, *******it!!!

And you guys should really stop encouraging people like me and LG if you actually want to discuss basketball on this forum. We're bad enough as is.

But it's common knowledge that MR is the Tiger Woods of this game. He may not play as many tournaments as he used to, but he wins em when he shows up.

Me? More like the Chi Chi Rodriguez I'd say (we both have Spanish names, you see).

And if we're sticking with golf, I guess LG would be Carl Spackler, which is nice. Either that or Michelle Wie (you're both "NOW", whereas I'm more "A DECADE AGO").

Eindar
08-08-2007, 11:44 PM
Of course I love the Dream Team, but I was expecting to see a thread about my Little League All Star team.

We still get no respect.

I was going to say, my 8th grade football team won't hit 15 until October of 2009. We went an entire season without anyone scoring on us.

BlueNGold
08-08-2007, 11:52 PM
What I see is just how far down US/NBA ball has fallen, how much good fundamentals have been lost and just how much slower it is as a game. I'd blame the Bad Boys, but they could play some serious offense. It had more to do with Pat Riley's Knicks/Heat and those Cavs teams post Price/BD era.

I think it's a combination of things. The slow down banging style as you imply tends to lead to more one-on-one post up play than ball movement. The basketball IQ simply does not seem to be as good. That might be due to too many high school players entering the league too early and not getting the fundamentals. There also seems to be more selfishness among the younger players....maybe due to ever bigger contracts and endorsements considering it became common for players to reject offers to play. Perhaps that was due to injury or security concerns...but it certainly took the wind and prestige out...

Air23
08-09-2007, 12:24 AM
That team would still mop the floor with international competition.

Charles Barkley
Larry Bird
Clyde Drexler
Patrick Ewing
Magic Johnson
Michael Jordan
Karl Malone
Chris Mullin
Scottie Pippen
David Robinson
John Stockton
Christian Laettner?

They'd also mop the floor with whatever product USA puts out next time.


Co-sign.