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DGPR
07-26-2007, 01:55 AM
http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770725019

By CELESTE E. WHITTAKER
Courier-Post Staff


PHILADELPHIA - Dajuan Wagner refuses to let his NBA dream die. ''Where I come from, we never quit,'' the Camden native said. ''I don't have any quit in me, so I'm just going to keep going."

The injuries and illnesses haven't dissuaded the former Camden High star, who made it back to the NBA last year only to have his time with Golden State cut short because he still wasn't feeling up to par.

Wagner had worked hard all summer and even scored 80 points in a summer league game in Cherry Hill and looked to be the picture of health. He'd impressed the Warriors enough that they signed him to a two-year contract worth a reported $1.6 million.

He further impressed in the preseason, leading the Warriors in scoring, but then, it all came to an end quickly, and before the start of the regular season, they'd agreed to buyout the remainder of his contract and he was on a plane headed home.

Now, he is once again starring in local summer leagues, including the Rankin-Anderson League at Drexel, where he dropped 50 in a recent game.

On a recent Thursday night, Wagner looked good in another victory for his team. He scored 31 points, hitting 13 of his 21 shots, and dished out nine assists on a team, which includes his former Camden High and University of Memphis teammate Arthur Barclay.

Wagner, who is also playing in leagues in Media, Pa., and Voorhees, had a thunderous baseline dunk that drew oohs and ahhs from the crowd, and also used a crossover dribble to slice his way to the basket for easy layups multiple times.

His jumper looked smooth and his quickness was there. At one point, a man in the crowd was leaving the gym, and shook Wagner's hand, saying, ''I see you've still got it.''

While his stamina didn't seem to be quite there -- he tired early in the first half and sometimes didn't cross midcourt -- he did play the entire game.

''I'm going to head for it,'' Wagner said of returning to the league. ''I'm going to see. Whatever (agent) Leon (Rose) wants me to do. I know I can play the game. I'm feeling a lot better, though. I know what to expect now."

The good news is, Wagner just turned 24 in February, so he's got some time. The other thing is, NBA teams still have interest. Wagner said he nearly played for the Denver Nuggets' summer league team, but twisted an ankle and opted not to go because he wouldn't have been himself.

Also, he's got Barclay beside him once again. His best friend looks out for his best interest and plans to go wherever Wagner ends up. Barclay graduated from Memphis in 2005, went straight to Maryland where he worked for Federal Express, but left the job recently to return to the area.

''I wanted to pursue other opportunities,'' Barclay, 25, said. ''I'm going to see what team he goes to and try to get a job with them, so I can stay with him and we can still be together. That's my brother. He looks good. You see the dunk on the baseline? I haven't seen that in about two years. I think this is the right year and the opportunity for him to really step up."

Said Wagner: ''I'm trying to get him back in shape. He's just been working. It's always fun playing with him.''

The negative is, the surgery which he endured in October of 2005 at Mt. Sinai Medical Center in New York, was very serious and you have to wonder if his body will ever be quite the same and whether it will ever be able to withstand the daily rigors of playing in the NBA, which is a lot different than summer league play. His stamina was an issue last preseason with Golden State.

Wagner, who had battled severe colitis, had his colon removed. Doctors essentially rebuilt him a colon, using the lining of his rectum and the last part of his small intestine.

''The kind of surgery I had was major,'' Wagner said. ''Now, I feel good, though. I feel like my old self. I've just been working out. I took a little rest. I'm feeling better, but I've just been working out, really."

Barclay said that Wagner confided to him that he didn't feel quite right last summer.

''He probably rushed back,'' Barclay said. ''He just wasn't feeling right. He knew that before. We'd talk and he'd be like, 'Man, I don't feel right.' Now, he's changed his diet and all that."

Growing up in Camden, playing in the NBA, like his father Milt had done years before, was in the forefront of his mind. It's what he worked towards every day. The countless hours he spent working on his game shooting jumpers, dribbling, by himself at times.

And while the former Camden High star did play three seasons (102 of a possible 246 regular season games) and average 9.4 points for the Cleveland Cavaliers, who selected him No. 6 overall in the 2002 NBA Draft, his best season was his first when he averaged 13.4 points and 2.8 assists in 47 games.

A knee injury, then the colitis, cut his career in Cleveland very short. But, he hopes to be back very soon.

Asked if he had a preference about which NBA team he played for, he said ''Denver, it doesn't matter, I just want to play. I'd love to play for Philly, but it doesn't matter.''

If he does end up in Denver, he'd be with former Sixers star guard Allen Iverson. The Nuggets also recently signed veteran guard Chucky Atkins and have another young, athletic guard, J.R. Smith, on their roster as well.

''I'm getting there,'' said the 6-foot-2, 195-pound Wagner, who has missed the last two NBA seasons. ''I feel good. I feel like I'm almost there, just a little bit more conditioning. I feel better health-wise than last summer. I'm eating good. I feel way better than I did last summer."

Trader Joe
07-26-2007, 02:14 AM
No thanks.

Y2J
07-26-2007, 02:57 AM
I;d have no problem with the Pacers giving him a shot. He's a still young guard, and a lottery pick who never got a chance to make it in the NBA due to his illness/injury. He's the type of diamond in the rough player we should take a shot on.

Eindar
07-26-2007, 04:58 AM
He's certainly more likely to contribute than Andre Owens, and if we've got a roster spot available, he'd be worth the gamble at the league minimum

FlavaDave
07-26-2007, 08:21 AM
One year at the minimum? Hell, why not?

wintermute
07-26-2007, 09:59 AM
i'm a wagner fan... that said, he's a 6'2'', no defense shooting guard, so he's strictly a bench player. add to that, the concerns about his stamina.

but as others have said, one year min deal isn't much to risk.

spreedom
07-26-2007, 10:20 AM
i'm a wagner fan... that said, he's a 6'2'', no defense shooting guard, so he's strictly a bench player. add to that, the concerns about his stamina.

Not to mention the fact that he doesn't have much of an outside game, so if anyone goes zone on us, he's useless.. but that said, as everyone else mentioned, he'd probably still be better than Andre Owens, and probably worth a roster spot at the league minimum.

Hicks
07-26-2007, 10:59 AM
I'd be totally fine with gambling on him for cheap. I have to admit, that I just have that "gut feeling" that he's always going to have this fatigue problem, which will keep him from playing a full NBA season.

JB's Breakout Year
07-26-2007, 11:10 AM
I'd be totally fine with gambling on him for cheap. I have to admit, that I just have that "gut feeling" that he's always going to have this fatigue problem, which will keep him from playing a full NBA season.
I kind of get the same feeling. It's like what Reggie called Jonathan Bender- "Can'tgetright." It's too bad. Seemed like Wagner had a world of talent.

Anthem
07-26-2007, 11:24 AM
We've still got a roster spot open.

I'd have no problem signing him for the minimum.

But he's not going to be a major difference-maker for us.

Doddage
07-26-2007, 12:01 PM
Can he shoot? Does he have three point range?

Young
07-26-2007, 12:28 PM
No thanks to Wagner.

Nothing against him and I admire his determination but we just don't need him. If we really want to add a guard there are better ones out there. Wagner was an awesome scorer but injuries really hurt him.

Slick Pinkham
07-26-2007, 12:39 PM
Can he shoot? Does he have three point range?

32% in college
32% in the NBA so far

a high volume shooter/scorer

no thanks except as a minimum salary unguaranteed contract

BoomBaby33
07-26-2007, 12:49 PM
I'd be totally fine with gambling on him for cheap. I have to admit, that I just have that "gut feeling" that he's always going to have this fatigue problem, which will keep him from playing a full NBA season.

Folks, i believe we have an epidemic. :-o :D

Seriously, i would rather fill our open roster slot with another big man - Alexander Johnson (hint, hint, wink, wink, nod, nod). Especially with the loss of Maceo.

JayRedd
07-26-2007, 01:23 PM
This isn't worth starting a thread over, so I'll just put it here.

I read that Sacto rescinded it's qualifying offer to Ronnie Price. I honestly don't know much about him, but he had that RIDICULOUS dunk last year and seemed to play well when given minutes early in the season.

Hopefully VF21 sees this and can give some insight, but strikes me as a young, athletic (though undersized) guard that can shoot and seems to have potential, and would probably come cheap. Anyone have any thoughts on Price?


http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/290619.html


"We talked about how they were exploring different options at point guard," Wilks said at the Table 260 Restaurant in Elk Grove. "Geoff explained Mike Bibby's situation and that the team believed Quincy (Douby) could play some minutes at point. (Francisco García) can play there if they want to go big and that they'd rescinded their qualifying offer to Ronnie (Price).

Young
07-26-2007, 01:52 PM
This isn't worth starting a thread over, so I'll just put it here.

I read that Sacto rescinded it's qualifying offer to Ronnie Price. I honestly don't know much about him, but he had that RIDICULOUS dunk last year and seemed to play well when given minutes early in the season.

Hopefully VF21 sees this and can give some insight, but strikes me as a young, athletic (though undersized) guard that can shoot and seems to have potential, and would probably come cheap. Anyone have any thoughts on Price?


http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/290619.html


I always thought he might be worth having but IDK. I don't think he would play in front of Jamaal or Travis. But I guess if we decide to let Darrell go then Ronnie isn't a bad third stringer.

Young
07-26-2007, 03:21 PM
Price Signs Multi-Year Deal With Utah

RealGM Staff Report -
Utah Jazz senior vice president of basketball operations, Kevin O’Connor, announced today that the team has agreed to terms with free agent guard Ronnie Price, pending a physical. Per team policy, terms of the contract were not released.

Price (6-2, 190, Utah Valley State) appeared in 87 games over two seasons with Sacramento, averaging 2.9 points, 1.0 rebound and 0.7 assists in 8.2 minutes per game. Price played in 58 games (one start) for the Kings in 2006-07, and averaged 3.3 points, 1.2 rebounds and 0.8 assists in 9.7 minutes per game. He scored a career-high 16 points vs. the Jazz on November 22, 2006, one of seven double-digit scoring performances by Price this past season.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47338/20070726/price_signs_multi_year_deal_with_utah/

We can forget Ronnie Price I guess.

JayRedd
07-26-2007, 03:51 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/47338/20070726/price_signs_multi_year_deal_with_utah/

We can forget Ronnie Price I guess.

What the crap!!!

Is Jerry Sloan reading PD now too?

naptownmenace
07-26-2007, 04:18 PM
that I just have that "gut feeling"

The man has his colon removed and his rectum sewn to his large intestines - HILARIOUS! :rolleyes:



I doubt he'd get much playing time here with the roster the way it is and I doubt he'd be better than Rush, Dunleavy, or Daniels even if he could remain healthy all season long. I really hope Dajaun can make it back to the NBA.

GrangerRanger
07-26-2007, 04:49 PM
I like Dajuan. Didn't he score 100 points in a high school game?

rexnom
07-26-2007, 06:53 PM
Let's get him simply for the sake of having William Wesley around more Pacer games.

EDIT: This post is probably going to get me "taken out" isn't it?

D23
07-26-2007, 06:58 PM
The man has his colon removed and his rectum sewn to his large intestines - HILARIOUS! :rolleyes:


Although I'm not positive, I think you may have gotten it backward. The colon IS the large intestines. With the medical procedure I think they make a small colon-esque pouch out of your small intestines, then connect it to your rectum. Only reason I know about this is because my roommate had severe colitis which was almost fatal and he had this surgery done. It took like 3 surgeries over a 9 month span which really took everything out of him. Unfortunately this medical procedure isn't perfected yet and only has a certain percentage of success. In his case, his body started rejecting the 'pouch' and caused him to get very sick again, so they had to disconnect it and go back to the bag. :(

I really hope things turn out well for Dajuan. I know from second-hand experience that he must've been very ill for quite some time, and I hope his body doesn't turn against him. It'd be a risk for any team to sign him, but the man does have talent.

bulldog
07-26-2007, 07:19 PM
It makes sense to get a role player for cheap. But a volume shooter/scorer? Honestly, that's not even worth the minimum, unless you're prepared to give him those kinds of touches, which we're not.

rexnom
07-26-2007, 07:54 PM
It makes sense to get a role player for cheap. But a volume shooter/scorer? Honestly, that's not even worth the minimum, unless you're prepared to give him those kinds of touches, which we're not.
If we're gonna give Andre Owens a spot, why not Dajuan Wagner? It's not like I'm a huge fan or even pro-Wagner...I just don't see any reason for not taking a risk like that when you feel ok giving roster spots to guys like Andre Owens. Maybe I just want to meet Worldwide Wes that badly...

rexnom
07-26-2007, 07:54 PM
I like Dajuan. Didn't he score 100 points in a high school game?
Didn't Travis Best?

Hicks
07-26-2007, 08:03 PM
The man has his colon removed and his rectum sewn to his large intestines - HILARIOUS! :rolleyes:

It wasn't a shot at him. Thanks for assuming I'm a dick, though.

bulldog
07-26-2007, 08:09 PM
If we're gonna give Andre Owens a spot, why not Dajuan Wagner? It's not like I'm a huge fan or even pro-Wagner...I just don't see any reason for not taking a risk like that when you feel ok giving roster spots to guys like Andre Owens. Maybe I just want to meet Worldwide Wes that badly...

Honestly, how much do you know about Andre Owens? People just lean towards names they recognize. It's funny how people get all over NBA teams for hiring the same re-tread coaches, but not players.

When you only have 15 roster spots, every single one is valuable. Get a guy that has one skill that's useful, whether they can rebound, shoot, whatever. That player actually has a chance at being a player during the year. Dajuan Wagner is going to either not play or score 30 points a game. And the odds of him ever getting enough shots to score 30 points per game are about 0.000001%.

rexnom
07-26-2007, 08:16 PM
Honestly, how much do you know about Andre Owens? People just lean towards names they recognize. It's funny how people get all over NBA teams for hiring the same re-tread coaches, but not players.

When you only have 15 roster spots, every single one is valuable. Get a guy that has one skill that's useful, whether they can rebound, shoot, whatever. That player actually has a chance at being a player during the year. Dajuan Wagner is going to either not play or score 30 points a game. And the odds of him ever getting enough shots to score 30 points per game are about 0.000001%.
I just assume that Andre Owens won't be getting lots of time...Orien Greene couldn't get on the court last year and he had that "one" skill we sorely needed...perimeter defense.

Y2J
07-26-2007, 08:26 PM
I'd take a shot on Dajuan any day over Andre Owens. Dajuan has only played 128 NBA games due to injury. While he was far from great in those games, considering his age and experience he showed enough to intrigue me. The only reason I'd say no is his past injuries, but I still feel he's worth looking into. If he can stay healthy he could end up a diamond in the rough.

Eindar
07-26-2007, 11:44 PM
Honestly, how much do you know about Andre Owens? People just lean towards names they recognize. It's funny how people get all over NBA teams for hiring the same re-tread coaches, but not players.

When you only have 15 roster spots, every single one is valuable. Get a guy that has one skill that's useful, whether they can rebound, shoot, whatever. That player actually has a chance at being a player during the year. Dajuan Wagner is going to either not play or score 30 points a game. And the odds of him ever getting enough shots to score 30 points per game are about 0.000001%.


What is Andre Owens' skill that useful? And what are the odds of Andre Owens scoring 30 points per game? I'll help you out, add about 20 zero's to that number you quoted for Wagner.

To answer your question, technically Wagner does bring something to the team that we really struggled with last year, and that's penetration/finishing at the rim/creating his own shot. You saw what the team was like last year with Marquis hurt. At the bare minimum, Wagner would be a guy that could play spot minutes at 1 and 2 to keep Owens in the D League and at best, he's a guy that could replicate Quis' role in the offense.

I think some people just lean towards people who grew up here (Damon Bailey, anyone?).

Skaut_Ech
07-27-2007, 08:33 AM
I think Einar makes a very good point concerning Wagner's possible penetration skills on offense. That has been our Achille's heel time and again. It's part of the reason Tinsley was allowed free reign to become the Abuser. We have no non else to do it.

I'm a WHOLE lot more optimistic about Wagner than I am Owens. He's a guy who can put a defense off balance. Now what concerns me beyond the obvious health issues is just how fast/quick is he these days? How is his off haded ball handling. If you remember, he got shut down after a bunch of high scoring game because teams scouted him and realized he favored going to his right dribble almost exclusively. And then there was the DW at PG expirament.

I guess I'm guardedly optimistic. I view him and Jay Williams in the same category. If a hint of the same spark can be brought out in either of them, they can be contributers.