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Smashed_Potato
07-10-2007, 11:51 PM
The Lakers could use some of the old glory these days, and it's coming in the form of Derek Fisher.

The Lakers and Fisher were close to an agreement Tuesday night on a three-year contract, likely worth about $16 million.

Fisher became a free agent July 2 in a rare development when he was released from his Utah Jazz contract giving up the remaining three years and $20.6 million because he wanted to relocate to a city where 1-year-old daughter Tatum could get optimal care for her rare form of eye cancer.

LINK (http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/abox/article_1760239.php)

Don't like the signing.

Lord Helmet
07-10-2007, 11:53 PM
I don't think Fisher is worth 16 million over 3 years. Damn. :laugh:

How old is he?

rexnom
07-10-2007, 11:53 PM
Wow that's a lot of money for Fish.

Trader Joe
07-10-2007, 11:54 PM
Thats a lot of money, but it couldn't go to a better guy.

Frank Slade
07-10-2007, 11:55 PM
Wow, well Kobe there is your big move. ;)

That aside I hope his daughter pulls through, and gets the care she needs.
That young is just unimaginable.

The_Showtime
07-10-2007, 11:58 PM
Damn MITCH! 3 years ago, he not willing to give Fish 5mil/season, why now when he's old? OMFG, Mitch better gives us a good trade this year or else he is officially stupid :mad:

Smashed_Potato
07-10-2007, 11:59 PM
Helmet hes 33.

rexnom
07-11-2007, 12:02 AM
Damn MITCH! 3 years ago, he not willing to give Fish 5mil/season, why now when he's old? OMFG, Mitch better gives us a good trade this year or else he is officially stupid :mad:
Wait...this is what pushes you over? Not the whole Butler for Brown debacle or the wasting of picks on guys who aren't even close to ready but need time to develop while Kobe is in his prime? It's Fish that pushes you over?

If I was a Lakers fan I would have lost faith right around the offseason that they traded away a future all-star and passed on Danny Granger among others in favor of a guy who won't be ready until Kobe's next contract.

The_Showtime
07-11-2007, 12:09 AM
Wait...this is what pushes you over? Not the whole Butler for Brown debacle or the wasting of picks on guys who aren't even close to ready but need time to develop while Kobe is in his prime? It's Fish that pushes you over?

If I was a Lakers fan I would have lost faith right around the offseason that they traded away a future all-star and passed on Danny Granger among others in favor of a guy who won't be ready until Kobe's next contract.
No don't get it wrong. As a Lakers fan, it is a dream and I definitely open my arm to bring the FISH back to LA, but not at that price when we could sign someone else worth it (Darko, WE NEED A BIG! since Mihm likely to leave the Lakers!) 3mil/season is the MAX Fisher should be getting but 5mil? Damn is Mitch that dump or something? :mad:

Getting Bynum over Granger is a good pick. Bynum has more value than Granger IMO. More upside, more potential because he is a traditional big man.

There is only 2 explanations for this rediculous signing. One, the Lakers have a deal in place to land a big name through trade to compliment a veteran roster (Fisher). Two, this move is what Kobe wants. If overpay for Kobe's close friend, D-Fish is what keep Kobe back. Then I'm okay with it. But damn I"m still ****ed with it! We lose our MLE and it not worths it. :-o

Lord Helmet
07-11-2007, 12:12 AM
Helmet hes 33.
Yeah, I went ahead and looked it up. I just think it's too much for him. But, eh, it's a good signing still.

Kstat
07-11-2007, 12:12 AM
Clearly, LA does not think Crittenton will be a stud PG anytime soon :laugh:

Seriously, the full MLE for DEREK FISHER?

How does Kupchak still have a job? He just spent $45 million on Luke Walton and Derek Fisher.

rexnom
07-11-2007, 12:14 AM
Clearly, LA does not think Crittenton will be a stud PG anytime soon :laugh:

Seriously, the full MLE for DEREK FISHER?
Wouldn't he have signed for the vet's minimum? How about vet's minimum and full health benefits? The Lakers could pick up the tab on all his daughter's treatments.

Kstat
07-11-2007, 12:17 AM
Wouldn't he have signed for the vet's minimum? How about vet's minimum and full health benefits? The Lakers could pick up the tab on all his daughter's treatments.

you'd think so.

Then again, LA never was a prime free agent destination before Mitch took over, so he can't be blamed... :sarcasm:

SoupIsGood
07-11-2007, 12:19 AM
He just spent $45 million on Luke Walton and Derek Fisher.

:lmao:

avoidingtheclowns
07-11-2007, 12:19 AM
you'd think so.

Then again, LA never was a prime free agent destination before Mitch took over, so he can't be blamed... :sarcasm:

so true, so true

The_Showtime
07-11-2007, 12:32 AM
Mitch is as dumb of a GM as you can get, but let wait till the offseason to be over to fully judge on this move. If the Lakers make a trade to land KG/JO type, then Fisher becomes a good sign. We're from a young team into becoming a veteran team. However let just wait...

Kstat
07-11-2007, 12:33 AM
Mitch is as dumb of a GM as you can get, but let wait till the offseason to be over to fully judge on this move. If the Lakers make a trade to land KG/JO type, then Fisher becomes a good sign.

Um...you DO realize that the fact he signed another PG means he's likely to TRADE a PG, right?

And considering that Farmar doesn't carry much value...nah, can't bring myself to do it.

indyman37
07-11-2007, 12:34 AM
Um...you DO realize that the fact he signed another PG means he's likely to TRADE a PG, right?

And considering that Farmar doesn't carry much value...nah, can't bring myself to do it.
DO IT, DO IT...

purplengoldjonez
07-11-2007, 12:36 AM
fish had arguably his best year with the jazz the last year. Fish brings heart, great work ethic, and a boat load of experience in a offensive system most players have fits picking up. i agree a little much but Mitch has done a hell of a lot worse in the MLE in the past. not a home run but definately not a strike out. Derrick will be a great mentor for one of our young Pg's. I think sasha, and farmar or Critt maybe on thier way out with kwame for artest or someone else.

Kstat
07-11-2007, 12:37 AM
he's a 33 year old point guard that wasn't more than an MLE-level player when he was in his prime.....


I think sasha, and farmar or Critt maybe on thier way out with kwame for artest or someone else.

uh-oh. someone hide the rope....

rexnom
07-11-2007, 12:40 AM
I totally forgot the VRad signing...man, that was horrible too. What? Was Tim Thomas busy?

oneofthesedays
07-11-2007, 01:08 AM
This signing makes no sense unless there is another big trade in place already. My gut tells me Farmar is on his way out. Hopefully it's a deal in place to land another bigtime star a la KG or JO. But I have my doubts, wouldn't be surprised if this was the only move our FO made.

diamonddave00
07-11-2007, 01:16 AM
Even worse for the Lakers with Fisher, Walton and Turiaf added to their cap they are now at the luxury tax threshhold. That means if they resign Chris Mihm his contract now cost double whatever he signs for against the cap and dollar for dollar in luxury tax.

Also now IF a Laker/Pacer trade for JO took place with Pacers accepting less than JO makes , that difference too is luxury taxed. Say JO's 19.7 mil is traded for 17.5 mil salary the Lakers pay an additional 2.2 mil in luxury tax.

Wonder how much Dr. Buss is willing to pay in taxes?

Will Galen
07-11-2007, 01:28 AM
Fisher was a move to try and pacify Kobe. Fisher is one of Kobes buddies.

Kstat
07-11-2007, 01:29 AM
...so kupchak bid against himself to sign one one Kobe's friends because...

stew
07-11-2007, 01:40 AM
I don't think Fisher is worth 16 million over 3 years. Damn. :laugh:

How old is he?

well, maybe he is.. because he did gave up his 3 year 20 mil. contract with utah...

SparkyPacer
07-11-2007, 01:44 AM
Am I one of the few who thinks it's a rather solid move? There's certainly been worse signings.

Arcadian
07-11-2007, 02:28 AM
But they got their first back-up quality pg since they let Fisher go.

FlavaDave
07-11-2007, 08:54 AM
This frees up a PG for a trade. Not a great move on LA's part, but good news for the Pacers.

Trader Joe
07-11-2007, 09:08 AM
...so kupchak bid against himself to sign one one Kobe's friends because...

Because hes Mitch Kupchack?

Kegboy
07-11-2007, 09:41 AM
Well, who else were they gonna give the money too? Blake? They already know Fisher's a good fit for them.

Yes, I completely agree that that's too much money. But I don't know if it really hurts them. As long as they're not worried about their cap, that is.

JayRedd
07-11-2007, 10:47 AM
Yes, I completely agree that that's too much money. But I don't know if it really hurts them. As long as they're not worried about their cap, that is.

Why would they be? They are the Lakers and they are in semi-crisis mode.

So I agree with Kegboy and think most of yall are overreacting a bit here.

Is Fish objectively worth the MLE in the NBA? Of course not. But they're over the cap already and I'm pretty sure Dr. Buss has a blank check philosophy at this point. Yes, the probably could of Fish at $3 per year and picked up someone else with the rest of the MLE for $2 million/year, but it's not there's a $2 million/year free agent on the market that's gonna put them over the top or anything.

And I'm not sure this is about "appeasing" Mamba. Sure that may help, but it's probably more likely that Phil told them to go get this savvy vet that already knows the Triangle and is a highly respected player on and off the court. The fact that he already is well versed in the ways of the Zen Master and Kobe helps a good deal too.

He'll be their starter, so it's really not that outrageous of a signing. It's not like either Phil or Kobe wanted Farmar or Javaris starting. And after two years of Smush, Phil's gonna feel like he just got Ron Harper back.

They overpaid, but it's a fine move.

avoidingtheclowns
07-11-2007, 11:20 AM
Why would they be? They are the Lakers and they are in semi-crisis mode.

So I agree with Kegboy and think most of yall are overreacting a bit here.

Is Fish objectively worth the MLE in the NBA? Of course not. But they're over the cap already and I'm pretty sure Dr. Buss has a blank check philosophy at this point. Yes, the probably could of Fish at $3 per year and picked up someone else with the rest of the MLE for $2 million/year, but it's not there's a $2 million/year free agent on the market that's gonna put them over the top or anything.

eddie gill is looking for a home. i bet he would have taken that kind of pay cut to play for a championship

carpediem024
07-11-2007, 11:41 AM
Critt will be a good PG.

They brought in Fish to bring some exp. and to mentor Javaris.

ABADays
07-11-2007, 11:52 AM
I sincerely hope his daughter gets through all this. As a father I can't even imagine.

Kstat
07-11-2007, 01:26 PM
I'd be weary of signing a guy whose daughter is in terrible health.

Not that I blame him, but Fisher's mind is probably nowhere near basketball right now, and that won't change unless his daughter's condition does.

Fool
07-11-2007, 02:00 PM
The guy traded away Shaq. I'm pretty sure he's NEVER going to have a "blank check" philosophy.

Lord Helmet
07-11-2007, 09:26 PM
I sincerely hope his daughter gets through all this. As a father I can't even imagine.
Same here.

They paid him a lot, but like what was said, there have been worse signings.

Indianapolis_girly
07-11-2007, 09:56 PM
I'd be weary of signing a guy whose daughter is in terrible health.

Not that I blame him, but Fisher's mind is probably nowhere near basketball right now, and that won't change unless his daughter's condition does. I would be too and I agree. :)