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BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 07:04 PM
:evillaugh:MAKE RASHEED EAT HIS WORDS!!! :evillaugh:
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http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/IND.gif-VS-http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/DET.gif

Game Time Start: 7:00 pm Indiana Time (8:00 pm EDT)

Tonight's Projected Starting Matchups:
  Pacers          Pistons
         CENTER
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jeff_foster.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/ben_wallace.jpg
  Foster (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jeff_foster/index.html?nav=page)        Wallace (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ben_wallace/index.html?nav=page)
      POWER FORWARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jermaine_oneal.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/rasheed_wallace.jpg
  O'Neal (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jermaine_oneal/index.html?nav=page)         Wallace (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/rasheed_wallace/index.html?nav=page)
      SMALL FORWARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/ron_artest.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/tayshaun_prince.jpg
  Artest (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ron_artest/index.html?nav=page)        Prince (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tayshaun_prince/index.html?nav=page)
      SHOOTING GUARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/reggie_miller.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/richard_hamilton.jpg
  Miller (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/reggie_miller/index.html?nav=page)        Hamilton (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/richard_hamilton/index.html?nav=page)
      POINT GUARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jamaal_tinsley.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/chauncey_billups.jpg
  Tinsley (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamaal_tinsley/index.html?nav=page)        Billups (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chauncey_billups/index.html?nav=page)


Pacers-Pistons Playoff Schedule: (All Indianapolis Times)
GAME    DAY  DATE  SITE  TIME     RESULT
Game 1  Sat  5/22   IND   7 pm     Pacers 78, Pistons 74 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040522/DETIND/boxscore.html)
Game 2  Mon  5/24   IND   7 pm     --
Game 3  Wed  5/26   DET   7:30 pm  --
Game 4  Fri  5/28   DET   7 pm     --
Game 5* Sun  5/30   IND   7 pm     --
Game 6* Tue  6/1    DET   7 pm     --
Game 7* Thur 6/3    IND   7 pm     --
* - If Necessary

Pacers-Heat 2nd Round Results:
GAME    DATE  SITE  RESULT
Game 1  5/6   IND   Pacers 94, Heat 81 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040506/MIAIND/boxscore.html)
Game 2  5/8   IND   Pacers 91, Heat 80 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040508/MIAIND/boxscore.html)
Game 3  5/10  MIA   Heat 94, Pacers 87 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040510/INDMIA/boxscore.html)
Game 4  5/12  MIA   Heat 100, Pacers 88 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040512/INDMIA/boxscore.html)
Game 5  5/15  IND   Pacers 94, Heat 83 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040515/MIAIND/boxscore.html)
Game 6  5/18  MIA   Pacers 73, Heat 70 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040518/INDMIA/boxscore.html)


Pacers-Celtics 1st Round Results:
GAME    DATE  SITE  RESULT
Game 1  4/17  IND   Pacers 104, Celtics 88 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040417/BOSIND/boxscore.html)
Game 2  4/20  IND   Pacers 103, Celtics 90 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040420/BOSIND/boxscore.html)
Game 3  4/23  BOS   Pacers 108, Celtics 85 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040423/INDBOS/boxscore.html)
Game 4  4/25  BOS   Pacers 90, Celtics 75 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040425/INDBOS/boxscore.html)

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 07:35 PM
Rasheed not only adds extra, unneeded pressure on himself and his teammates, but gives us more motivation to put him in the 0-2 hole. I think it's a stupid comment to make, but then again, Rasheed Wallace is no Marv Levy if you know what I mean.

I say Pacers win another close one...

Pacers 95
Pistons 93

Hicks
05-24-2004, 07:46 PM
Somewhere between nothing and surprised.

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 07:47 PM
Somewhere between nothing and surprised.

Hicks, I love how your avatar slows down right at the very moment Reggie goes into motion. :pepper:

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 08:04 PM
Who's ready?

I'm ready!

obnoxiousmodesty
05-24-2004, 08:05 PM
In case anyone is interested and able to listen, Pacers Radio will be airing a montage of Reggie's greatest moments during halftime of Game 2.

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 08:06 PM
In case anyone is interested and able to listen, Pacers Radio will be airing a montage of Reggie's greatest moments during halftime of Game 2.

"Pacers Radio"?

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:06 PM
Who's ready?

I'm ready!

:box: Let's get ready to rumble!!!!!

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 08:08 PM
Doc better have something smart to say tonight...

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:10 PM
Geez I hope Ron makes his layups this game...

Both Wallace's with their 1st foul already

Reggie breaks the scoreless tie with his FTs

:pacers: 2
:pistons: 0

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:15 PM
Ron forcing it again....:shakehead:

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:18 PM
Big Ben gets his 2nd foul, 6:54 in the 1st quarter :thumbsup:

:pacers: 8
:pistons: 3

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 08:19 PM
Doc never ceases to amaze me...

:unimpressed:

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:20 PM
Reg with 6 pts already in the game. :cool:

:pacers: 10
:pistons: 4

Play-by-Play
(5:31) [IND] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:31) [IND] Johnson Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(5:48) [IND 10-4] Miller Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS)
(6:01) [IND] Miller Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(6:02) [IND] Artest Jump Shot: Missed
(6:14) [IND] Artest Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(6:15) [DET] Prince Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(6:15) [DET 4-8] Prince Free Throw 1 of 2 (3 PTS)
(6:15) [IND] Tinsley Substitution replaced by Johnson
(6:15) [IND] Tinsley Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(6:31) [DET] R. Wallace Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(6:33) [IND] Tinsley Jump Shot: Missed
(6:54) [DET] B. Wallace Substitution replaced by Campbell
(6:54) [DET] B. Wallace Turnover: Foul (1 TO)
(6:54) [DET] B. Wallace Foul: Offensive (2 PF)


Doc never ceases to amaze me...

:unimpressed:

I'm trying not to pay attention to him... :laugh:

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 08:21 PM
Reggie looks like he used to look... :o

I've said it time and time again...He can still do it all...It's just a matter of playing within his team and his role.

joro
05-24-2004, 08:21 PM
Pacers 10
Crankshafts 4
5:31

Is that right?

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 08:22 PM
These refs are inconsistent.

Call it close in the game.
Be super lenient when it comes to players and coaches getting in your facing, spitting, & yelling.

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 08:23 PM
I think Reggie Miller during the pre-game meeting told everyone, "Screw Sheed, I Am Reggie MOFO'n Miller, and I'm gonna dominate this game.

I mean thats nice to see him takin Rip off the dribble scoring like he is this game so far. He don't look so old does he?

obnoxiousmodesty
05-24-2004, 08:27 PM
In case anyone is interested and able to listen, Pacers Radio will be airing a montage of Reggie's greatest moments during halftime of Game 2.

"Pacers Radio"?
Yeah, the Pacers radio broadcast with Mark and Slick.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:28 PM
Ron's just still not quite in sync offensively, hopefully he'll snap out of it soon

:pacers: 12
:pistons: 6

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 08:30 PM
In case anyone is interested and able to listen, Pacers Radio will be airing a montage of Reggie's greatest moments during halftime of Game 2.

"Pacers Radio"?
Yeah, the Pacers radio broadcast with Mark and Slick.

Okay, now that makes sense...I thought there was some new station to hear the Pacers on. :laugh:

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 08:31 PM
Ron's just still not quite in sync offensively, hopefully he'll snap out of it soon

:pacers: 12
:pistons: 6


he is just hyped up, I mean he cant really shoot under 20% the whole series, can he???

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 08:31 PM
Okay, we look good right now...Just keep the intensity up and hopefully the Pistons will just self-destruct...I can't believe they haven't been T-ed up yet.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:33 PM
In the game for the Pacers: JO, Al, Ron, JB, AJ

MSA2CF
05-24-2004, 08:35 PM
Nessler needs to stop calling AJ, Tinsley!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:35 PM
Air ball for Sheed!!!! 0-for-5 now I think :laugh:

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 08:35 PM
omg these announcers suck so bad

this guy still hasnt realized that isnt Tinsley out there... WHERE IS BILL WALTON??

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 08:38 PM
the halfcourt shot by Ron was closer than his first layup

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:38 PM
End of the 1st Quarter:

:pacers: 17
:pistons: 12

No one mistaking these two teams for Sacto or the Mavs... ;)

Play-by-Play
(0:00) [IND] Team Rebound
(0:00) [IND] Artest Jump Shot: Missed
(0:03) [DET 12-17] Hamilton Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS)
(0:20) [IND 17-10] Artest Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS)
(0:39) [DET 10-17] Campbell Slam Dunk Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Williamson (1
(0:51) [DET] Hamilton Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(0:52) [IND] Bender Layup Shot: Missed Block: Campbell (1 BLK)
(1:01) [DET 8-15] Okur Free Throw 2 of 2 (2 PTS)
(1:01) [DET 7-15] Okur Free Throw 1 of 2 (1 PTS)
(1:01) [IND] O'Neal Substitution replaced by Foster
(1:01) [IND] Harrington Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(1:09) [DET] Campbell Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(1:11) [IND] Johnson Jump Shot: Missed
(1:29) [DET] Billups Substitution replaced by Hamilton
(1:29) [DET] R. Wallace Substitution replaced by Campbell

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 08:40 PM
This game is exactly the type of basketball I like, I doubt this incredible game can keep up this pace for long though, eventually both teams will start making defensive lapses.

Since Bill Walton aint announcing..

Really, screw these ESPN announcer, I'm turning on the radio.

sweabs
05-24-2004, 08:41 PM
Rasheed will not continue with this poor shooting performance though - but nice job on Defense by Jermaine.

Let's hope Ron can get into things now, and Bender can hold onto the ball!

indytoad
05-24-2004, 08:41 PM
Not sure how to feel about that quarter. Pistons played terrible and are only down 5. Hamilton and Billups haven't even gotten many touches yet, that'll certainly change. Hopefully the Pacers can pick up their O a little bit.

At least Rasheed is playing even worse so far.

IndyToad
What you're working for

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:43 PM
FIRST QUARTER TEAM STATISTICS
----------------------Pistons-------Pacers
FG%--------------------23.5----------28.6
3PT%--------------------0-------------0.0
FT%--------------------50.0----------83.3
Fast Break Pts----------2-------------2
Turnovers---------------4-------------3
Pts in the Paint--------6-------------4
Unanswered Pts----------7-------------2
Biggest Lead------------0-------------9

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:44 PM
Hope the Pacers don't get into the habit of leaving Okur open at the 3 pt line, he can hit those

indytoad
05-24-2004, 08:48 PM
How to let a team back into a game:

Commit stupid fouls every possession.

Pacers seem to be doing well in this area.

IndyToad
He's my buddy

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:49 PM
Let me see if I got this straight...Campbell hooks JO on the spin move, then falls down - and the foul is on JO? :confused: :mad:

:pacers: 20
:pistons: 19

Play-by-Play
(8:56) [IND] Team Timeout: Regular
(9:03) [DET 19-20] Williamson (4 PTS) Assist: Hamilton (1 AST)
(9:08) [IND] O'Neal Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(9:16) [DET] James Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(9:17) [DET] Okur Jump Shot: Missed
(9:26) [IND] Bender Substitution replaced by Croshere
(9:26) [IND] Bender Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(9:35) [IND] Harrington Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(9:35) [IND] Harrington Foul: Loose Ball (3 PF)
(9:35) [DET] Team Rebound
(9:35) [IND] Johnson Jump Shot: Missed
(9:52) [IND] Harrington Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(9:53) [DET] James Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(9:53) [DET] Team Rebound
(9:53) [DET] James Free Throw 1 of 2 missed

indytoad
05-24-2004, 08:50 PM
I am getting a little tired of Doc acting like the Pistons are not playing well and are only down 3 or whatever. Uh we are shooting worse than they are. We aren't playing well at all IMHO

Well this is about as well as we're going to do against Detroit. The Pistons can do much, much better.

IndyToad
Continues tomorrow

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 08:56 PM
:unimpressed: uh, IW, we got a game going on here...;)

Pacers starting to come alive again!

:pacers: 26
:pistons: 22

Play-by-Play
(7:07) [DET] Team Timeout: Regular
(7:18) [IND 26-22] Miller Jump Shot: Made (9 PTS) Assist: Tinsley (1 AST)
(7:25) [DET] James Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal: Foster (1 ST)
(7:42) [IND 23-22] O'Neal Free Throw 1 of 1 (9 PTS)
(7:42) [DET] Campbell Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(7:42) [IND 22-22] O'Neal Layup Shot: Made (8 PTS)
(7:44) [IND] Foster Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(7:46) [IND] Artest Jump Shot: Missed
(8:03) [DET 22-20] Williamson Free Throw 2 of 2 (5 PTS)
(8:03) [DET] Team Rebound
(8:03) [DET] Williamson Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(8:03) [IND] Croshere Substitution replaced by Artest
(8:03) [IND] Foster Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(8:12) [DET] Okur Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(8:14) [IND] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed

sweabs
05-24-2004, 08:57 PM
ATTA BOY UNCLE REGG!!!!

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 08:57 PM
I'm tellin yall Reggie has that look in his eyes.

ABADays
05-24-2004, 08:57 PM
I did not like our last minute of the first quarter AT ALL. Had the chance to stomp on them and didn't. I hope it doesn't come back to haunt us.

BTW - is there anyway to package Bender up and ship out at halftime? I give up.

indytoad
05-24-2004, 08:58 PM
Wow, Reggie is bringin' it.

Of course now that I've said that he'll miss the rest of his shots.

IndyToad
With a sweet and savory sauce

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:01 PM
Foster is doing so many of the little things in these playoffs - I've really been impressed with him :)

ABADays
05-24-2004, 09:02 PM
I don't like this game. I don't like it at all. Both Wallaces on the bench and we aren't doing anything.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:03 PM
it's like watching 2 larger then life american trailor park grandma's wrestling in a honey jar this game is....

An apt, if disturbing comparison... :laugh:

Ron finally hits a layup!

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:05 PM
Trading buckets now, I do wish we could put some distance from them while the Pistons have the scrubs out there

JO with the major throw-down! :devil:

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:07 PM
33-all, let's close out this half strong!

sweabs
05-24-2004, 09:07 PM
Jermaine...THAT WAS HIGHLIGHT MATERIAL MAN!!! WOOOOOOO - TAYSHAWN GET TO THE WEIGHT ROOM MY FRIEND.

sweabs
05-24-2004, 09:09 PM
I don't like this game. I don't like it at all. Both Wallaces on the bench and we aren't doing anything.

That's a good...yet disturbing point.

Mr. Pink
05-24-2004, 09:09 PM
What is the date for Game 5?





Sactolover

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:10 PM
What is the date for Game 5?

Here's the whole schedule:

Pacers-Pistons Playoff Schedule: (All Indianapolis Times)
GAME    DAY  DATE  SITE  TIME     RESULT
Game 1  Sat  5/22   IND   7 pm     Pacers 78, Pistons 74 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040522/DETIND/boxscore.html)
Game 2  Mon  5/24   IND   7 pm     --
Game 3  Wed  5/26   DET   7:30 pm  --
Game 4  Fri  5/28   DET   7 pm     --
Game 5* Sun  5/30   IND   7 pm     --
Game 6* Tue  6/1    DET   7 pm     --
Game 7* Thur 6/3    IND   7 pm     --
* - If Necessary

Mr. Pink
05-24-2004, 09:12 PM
Thanks, guys!



That was damn quick! ;)



Sactolover

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:15 PM
Reggie with 13 first half pts so far :cool:

And two more!

sweabs
05-24-2004, 09:18 PM
If Artest has it going we are up by 10 at least. Of course the what if game applies to them not having B. Wallace on the floor as well.

And if Rasheed was playing well...

ABADays
05-24-2004, 09:18 PM
Ron needs to go the lost and found at halftime and find his offense.

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 09:18 PM
That was a great half by Reggie, I hope all the doubters understand that the Pacers would be losing badly without him.

I'm looking forward to more of the same next half

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:19 PM
Halftime Score:

:pacers: 43
:pistons: 37

Play-by-Play
(0:00) End Period
(0:00) [IND] Artest Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
(0:00) [DET] James Jump Shot: Missed
(0:05) [IND 43-37] Artest Free Throw 2 of 2 (6 PTS)
(0:05) [IND 42-37] Artest Free Throw 1 of 2 (5 PTS)
(0:05) [IND] Croshere Substitution replaced by Bender
(0:05) [DET] Williamson Substitution replaced by James
(0:05) [IND] Miller Substitution replaced by Jones
(0:05) [IND] Team Timeout: Short
(0:05) [DET] Williamson Foul: Loose Ball (2 PF)
(0:05) [IND] Artest Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(0:05) [DET] Billups Jump Shot: Missed
(0:14) [IND 41-37] Miller Turnaround Jump: Made (15 PTS)
(0:37) [IND] Foster Rebound (Off:3 Def:5)
(0:38) [DET] Williamson Jump Shot: Missed

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:21 PM
Halftime Interview with JO:

Jim Gray: "Jermaine, is this [low scoring game] a great defensive struggle or an offensive struggle?"

JO: "A little of both [grins sheepishly]" :laugh:

indytoad
05-24-2004, 09:23 PM
Well the defense on that last play left a bit to be desired, fortunately Chauncey didn't take the shot. Still, a great way to close out the half. What was it, a 9 point swing in the last five minutes or so? Also great to see us hitting our free throws. It's been so long...

IndyToad
Oven-roasted meal

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:23 PM
Hey BC

why don't you wear this for good luck

DO it for the TEAM

:unimpressed: :rolleyes:

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 09:24 PM
Ron is bound to shoot better eventually right? If he had made half his shots they'd be up by 15-20. Right now he is breaking even with the pistons with his D.

IT woulda yanked him and put in Pollard by now, for sure

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 09:26 PM
where are all the reggie should going to the glue factory folks now? ya'll need to stop doubtin the man. it's really sad to me how every time he has a bad game everyone is saying he should retire or sit down. he's doing it when it counts most... AGAIN. love reggie.

i'm hoping for a 2-0 lead after tonight with reggie having a huge part in both of those wins - now that would be a beautiful thing.

let's have a great second half, how about? :)

:dance: :dance: :dance:

HELL YA
thats what ive been saying this whole game. Reggie is the man, and he is on a mission tonight. SCREW SHEED WE GOT REGGIE MILLER!

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:27 PM
TEAM STATISTICS AT HALFTIME
----------------------Pistons-------Pacers
FG%--------------------37.1----------34.1
3PT%-------------------50.0----------20.0
FT%--------------------56.3----------92.9
Fast Break Pts----------5-------------7
Turnovers---------------6-------------5
Pts in the Paint-------10------------14
Unanswered Pts----------2-------------7
Biggest Lead------------3-------------9


Pacers: JO - 16 pts, 4 rbs; Reggie - 15 pts
Pistons: Okur - 9 pts; Williamson - 7 pts; Hamilton - 6 pts, 5 rbs

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 09:41 PM
you just saw some blatent ratings foul there. That was no foul by Jeff on Sheed

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 09:42 PM
I'm tellin yall when reggie starts takin those shots you know he is feeling it.

This game is all about Reggie Miller

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:44 PM
Is there something wrong with Jeff's leg, or was he calling a signal with that leg move he kept doing? :confused:

ABADays
05-24-2004, 09:45 PM
Christ - how many fouls does Tinsley have that Johnson is still out there trying to run the team?

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:46 PM
Christ - how many fouls does Tinsley have that Johnson is still out there trying to run the team?

Tins has 4 PFs

:pacers: 47
:pistons: 47

Play-by-Play
(6:39) [IND] Team Timeout: Regular
(6:51) [DET 47-47] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Billups (3 AST)
(7:06) [DET] Team Rebound
(7:07) [IND] Artest Layup Shot: Missed Block: R. Wallace (3 BLK)
(7:18) [DET] Hamilton Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(7:31) [IND] Miller Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(7:33) [DET] B. Wallace Jump Shot: Missed
(7:46) [IND] Foster Substitution replaced by Harrington
(7:46) [IND] Johnson Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(7:48) [DET] R. Wallace Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(7:50) [IND] Artest Layup Shot: Missed Block: Prince (2 BLK)
(8:03) [IND] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:5)
(8:05) [DET] Billups Finger Roll: Missed
(8:15) [DET] R. Wallace Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(8:17) [IND] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed Block: R. Wallace (2 BLK)

efx
05-24-2004, 09:46 PM
Sometimes I get the feeling that Ron thinks he is the only player out there on offense. Come on dude, pass the ball sometimes.

indytoad
05-24-2004, 09:49 PM
Pacers lose a six-point lead with AJ at the point. Imagine that.

Still no doubt in my mind Detroit will take this one. They've missed a lot of opportunities the last six quarters and they're going to make up for lost time.

IndyToad
It must be love

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 09:50 PM
man, tinsley being out is killin us right now. AJ is doing what is expected.. but its a battle now, no advantage.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:52 PM
Ron is struggling painfully out there on offense tonight, and in this series so far...

ABADays
05-24-2004, 09:53 PM
dammnit - can we possibly shot the freaking ball any worse in this series - good god!

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 09:54 PM
I am glad rick didnt take Ron out there when he got that foul, no matter what happens. Gotta let him work his way outta the funk

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:54 PM
JO with the nasty rejection on Sheed! :devil:

BayouPacer
05-24-2004, 09:56 PM
I feel bad for Pierce. Doc Rivers is officially a complete moron!

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 09:56 PM
In the game now for the Pacers: JO, Al, JB, Ron, AJ

Pistons going nuts on that blocking foul against TP :laugh:

:pacers: 52
:pistons: 51

Play-by-Play
(2:32) [DET] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:32) [DET] Prince Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(2:36) [IND] Harrington Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(2:38) [IND] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
(2:55) [IND] Harrington Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(2:57) [DET] Prince Jump Shot: Missed Block: Bender (1 BLK)
(3:09) [DET] Billups Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(3:10) [IND] Bender Jump Shot: Missed
(3:18) [IND] Artest Rebound (Off:1 Def:6)
(3:20) [DET] Prince Jump Shot: Missed
(3:45) [IND 52-51] Bender Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: Johnson (4 AST)
(4:00) [DET] Okur Turnover: Traveling (1 TO)
(4:17) [IND] Miller Substitution replaced by Bender
(4:17) [IND] Miller Turnover: Foul (3 TO)
(4:17) [IND] Miller Foul: Offensive (1 PF)

sweabs
05-24-2004, 09:59 PM
A friendly call by the ref's there...I think that might have been offensive foul on Bender... :devil: .

FireTheCoach
05-24-2004, 09:59 PM
It was a good call.... Prince was definitely late getting there.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:00 PM
Man, I really miss having Freddie out there to bring extra energy from the bench :(

Jermaniac
05-24-2004, 10:00 PM
Damn does anyone have a video of that JO block on Sheed

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:01 PM
Damn does anyone have a video of that JO block on Sheed

I'm sure Hicks or able will soon! :cool:

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 10:04 PM
Right now I am just absolutely amazed we are ahead in this game.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:05 PM
:banghead: Ron is driving me nuts with some of his shots tonight...

FireTheCoach
05-24-2004, 10:05 PM
This is about as bad as I've ever seen Ron play and I've been watching him since he was at St. Johns.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:07 PM
That looked like the Pistons touched that out of bound ball to me :mad:

End of the 3rd Quarter:

:pistons: 55
:pacers: 54

Play-by-Play
(0:00) End Period
(0:02) [DET 55-54] Hamilton Jump Shot: Made (10 PTS)
(0:13) [IND] Croshere Substitution replaced by Jones
(0:13) [IND] Miller Substitution replaced by Foster
(0:13) [DET] Williamson Substitution replaced by Billups
(0:14) [DET] Hunter Substitution replaced by Prince
(0:14) [DET] Ham Substitution replaced by Hamilton
(0:14) [IND] Bender Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(0:14) [DET] Okur Substitution replaced by Ham
(0:14) [DET] Okur Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(0:21) [IND] Croshere Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(0:23) [DET] Okur Jump Shot: Missed
(0:40) [IND] Artest Substitution replaced by Miller
(0:40) [IND] Artest Turnover: Foul (3 TO)
(0:40) [IND] Artest Foul: Offensive (4 PF)

TEAM STATISTICS AFTER 3 QUARTERS
----------------------Pistons-------Pacers
FG%--------------------38.0----------32.8
3PT%-------------------40.0----------25.0
FT%--------------------68.2----------92.9
Fast Break Pts----------9-------------7
Turnovers--------------10------------11
Pts in the Paint-------18------------20
Unanswered Pts----------5-------------4
Biggest Lead------------3-------------9

FireTheCoach
05-24-2004, 10:08 PM
Pacers own Q4

Ok so should Ron sit or play to start the 4th...? I'd have to think of sitting him for the first 3 mins.

sweabs
05-24-2004, 10:09 PM
Wow - I will be REALLY surprised if we emerge with a win tonight :(.

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 10:09 PM
Indiana is playing incredible D, Detroit is playing good.. but our offense is so horrible I cannot give them credit. Tinsley is sorely missed, I sure hope he does not get his 5th early. If he does I hope Rick keeps him in there.

indytoad
05-24-2004, 10:11 PM
Now this is the Pistons' defense. This is why Detroit will win this game and why the Pacers have no chance in this series. When they need to stop you THEY WILL. The Pacers will not score more than 10 points in the fourth quarter. Bank on it.

IndyToad
Fraud like this

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 10:13 PM
Joe Dumars has that look like he knows this team isnt good enough to go all the way.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:13 PM
The Pacers will not score more than 10 points in the fourth quarter. Bank on it.

Thanks, Sheed! :rolleyes: ;)

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:16 PM
Tins hits a great jumper!

:pacers: 58
:pistons: 55

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 10:16 PM
Right now Larry Brown is yelling really loud, "You get Tinsley his 5th foul!" Lets hope he doesn't get it.

sweabs
05-24-2004, 10:17 PM
TINSLEY - THAT WAS STRAIGHT FROM RUCKER PARK!!!

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:20 PM
That jumper by Freddie had nothing on it... :(

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 10:24 PM
these teams are so evenly matched...

indytoad
05-24-2004, 10:25 PM
If the Pistons win this game - and they will, obviously - this series is over. The Pacers can't win in Detroit. Sorry.

IndyToad
The clock has expired

efx
05-24-2004, 10:27 PM
So you're basically saying that the season is over for us?

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:28 PM
:pacers: 59
:pistons: 59

Another nail-biter.... :o :shudder:

Play-by-Play
(5:50) Timeout: Official
(5:50) [IND] Team Rebound
(5:50) [IND] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed Block: B. Wallace (4 BLK)
(6:11) [IND] Johnson Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(6:12) [DET] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Missed
(6:27) [IND 59-59] Artest Free Throw 2 of 2 (11 PTS)
(6:27) [IND] Team Rebound
(6:27) [IND] Artest Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(6:27) [DET] Prince Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(6:44) [IND] Miller Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(6:45) [DET] R. Wallace Jump Shot: Missed
(7:09) [IND] Team Turnover: 24 Second Violation ( TO)
(7:09) [IND] Team Rebound
(7:09) [IND] Johnson Jump Shot: Missed
(7:32) [IND] Croshere Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 10:29 PM
well, the pacers are playing bad.. but the Pistons are a big part.. I mean that really is the best interior D i have seen, so I take back any BS i may have said earlier.

Pacers are playing amazing D too, but we got some great shooters give them the freakin ball..Reggie

indytoad
05-24-2004, 10:32 PM
So you're basically saying that the season is over for us?

Yes. It was over as soon as Detroit beat New Jersey. They're simply better than the Pacers in every facet of the game.

IndyToad
Feeling the effects

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:32 PM
Detroit on an 8 pt run...

:pistons: 63
:pacers: 59

efx
05-24-2004, 10:33 PM
I'm gonna call this game over. damn..

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:40 PM
some light some incense... i need calmness here

I need a drink and some Maalox... :yikes:

:pistons: 67
:pacers: 63

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:42 PM
Ron just fouled out, but perhaps it's just as well given his play tonight...

indytoad
05-24-2004, 10:42 PM
Six point Pistons lead with under two minutes to go. It's officially over now.

IndyToad
Momentarily shedding it

indytoad
05-24-2004, 10:43 PM
Opps

IndyToad
Double-oops

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 10:43 PM
dang its gonna take a miracle, ron just fouled out, only 1:30 left...

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:43 PM
:pacers: 69
:pistons: 63

ROCislandWarrior
05-24-2004, 10:44 PM
Looks like we will have to fight an uphill battle from here on out.

Homecourt is about ready to switch over to Detroit :unimpressed:

sweabs
05-24-2004, 10:44 PM
Wow - not a good display tonight...Reggie and Jermaine (and Bender) were really the only guys to show up and play.

Grant
05-24-2004, 10:44 PM
How bout Bender, Cro, and Miller.....go for 3.....

ABADays
05-24-2004, 10:44 PM
i am absolute disgusted by our freaking shot selection

zxc
05-24-2004, 10:45 PM
This series is definitely over after we lose this one. We got lucky as hell winning game one playing so awful. Their D just plain owns our offense. Our D has done a solid job but it isn't good enough to overcome nonstop 30% shooting performances. And nice job by JO and Reggie vanishing for the second half. What a joke they are.

ABADays
05-24-2004, 10:45 PM
. . . an Ron - never saw him not (or unable) to make adjustments.

ROCislandWarrior
05-24-2004, 10:46 PM
Oneal :unimpressed: :unimpressed: :unimpressed:

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:46 PM
Get a break here with the double-dribble call on Billups

ROCislandWarrior
05-24-2004, 10:46 PM
Refs giving us all sorts of chances here

efx
05-24-2004, 10:46 PM
blah. If we can't keep our homecourt against this team, we will lose this series. Mark my words.
Ah, the ever-familiar "next year"...

ROCislandWarrior
05-24-2004, 10:48 PM
If the Pistons win this game, It will be because of their D

They took Jermaine out of the game completly in the second half.


Now only Reggie can save us

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:48 PM
Wild play out there, Tins rolling on the floor, Reg going to the line :pray:

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:49 PM
ARG!!!!!! :mad:

ROCislandWarrior
05-24-2004, 10:49 PM
It is official, God hates us

indytoad
05-24-2004, 10:49 PM
Prince > Reggie.

The Pistons are just a better team. I dunno why no one else sees it.

IndyToad
Denied

efx
05-24-2004, 10:50 PM
goodnight.

zxc
05-24-2004, 10:51 PM
Well, that ending just sucks.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:51 PM
Reg should've taken that in for the dunk to be sure!

:pistons: 71
:pacers: 67

14.6 seconds to go

On the positive side, the Pacers have scored more than 10 pts this quarter... :rolleyes:

ROCislandWarrior
05-24-2004, 10:51 PM
I think from now on Reggie is going to dunk the ball instead of laying it up

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 10:51 PM
wow props to tayshun.. absolutely amazing.. The Pistons deserve this game.

Ill change my sig now, FU sheed

ROCislandWarrior
05-24-2004, 10:53 PM
Sheed is not the reason they won this game though, it was their team D

The Pistons beat us fair and square tonight

Now we have to go into the palace and do the same

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:53 PM
Reg should've taken that in for the dunk to be sure!

:pistons: 71
:pacers: 67

14.6 seconds to go

On the positive side, the Pacers have scored more than 10 pts this quarter... :rolleyes:

let me guess prince blocked him ???

Yup :(

ABADays
05-24-2004, 10:54 PM
what the hell is bender in there for . . . to fumble the ball away again.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:55 PM
:pistons: 72
:pacers: 67

10 seconds to go, feels like we're outta miracles :cry:

ROCislandWarrior
05-24-2004, 10:56 PM
Sheed is not the reason they won this game though, it was their team D



Well to be fair he didnt say he would be the reason they would win. He just said we would lose. However its a ridiculous thing to say because if you win you look great, if you lose you were just joking anyway.

Yeah, he had a 50/50 chance. :unimpressed:

I can't wait to hear all the Pistons fans talk about the prophet known as Rasheed :unimpressed:

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 10:56 PM
I hate sheed more than LJ

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:56 PM
Final Score: :banghead:

:pistons: 72
:pacers: 67

obnoxiousmodesty
05-24-2004, 10:56 PM
Congratulations to the Pistons. We can all point to reasons why the Pacers should have won, but the Pistons did their thing and won the game. Now we have to regroup and get one in Detroit.

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 10:58 PM
I hate sheed more than LJ

That's just the effect of time. I still hate LJ more.

(but Sheed's climbing up the charts... :shout: )

Suaveness
05-24-2004, 10:59 PM
JO didn't score in half 2. That is retarded.

PaceBalls
05-24-2004, 11:00 PM
but man... we shoulda owned this game by 20 wtf

it was sheed voodoo. he sacrificed a mcnugget or something. something... Ron.. man has anyone ever been rejected more in one game? you'd think he would try a jumper...

sweabs
05-24-2004, 11:00 PM
So now I expect KStat to be sporting an avatar of Tayshawn's block :cry: .

BostonConnection
05-24-2004, 11:02 PM
http://scores.nba.com/games/20040524/DETIND/boxscoreprint.html

Aw Heck
05-24-2004, 11:03 PM
Officiating was absolutely horrible tonight. Bad calls both ways.

MSA2CF
05-25-2004, 05:10 PM
I like what I saw in Reggie. He was truly the only Pacers player who I saw that came out and played his hardest. He did everything he had to do and more.

The Pistons did contain Jermaine, but I do not feel Jermaine really tried that hard to do anything about it. He should have gotten the ball more. If he had had the ball more, the ballgame may have turned out different, but then again, you can say a lot of things could have gone different. It does not matter now.

It was the worst job of referring I have ever seen continued throughout a ballgame. Doc Rivers continually said that it was a hard game to call. That's B.S., Doc.
1) Doc, you're not a referee and apparently you don't know all the rules. 2) The refs were very inconsistent. We got nailed every possession for touch fouls. The Pistons fouled us more times than I can recall. It has to be called both ways or neither way. The refs didn't choose either.
3) The referees changed the way they do things. If that had been a regular season game, albeit at least 5 technical fouls would have been called on Detroit. Rasheed would have been ejected, and possibly Larry Brown too. Corliss Williamson deserved at least one. It was unbelievable to watch the entire Detroit bench jump up screaming and jumping and throwing towels around, and not be disciplined. I think that the refs were afraid that they might alter the outcome of the game if they called technicals. If so, they were totally wrong in doing so because you can't change how games are officiating just because it is game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals.
4) I think the block party was a joke. It was obvious several times down that the blocks were fouls that were not called. It changed the complexion of the game. (The No-Calls did.)

If there ever was a scapegoat for a loss, it was Ron Artest in this game. Time and time again, Ron did his own thing. He did not let the game come to him. He forced everything and had forgotten that basketball is a team game. He would not pass for the life of him. Once he got the ball, he thought it was his time to shine and said to heck with the gameplan. I'm sorry Ron, but if you have a repeat performance, I'm not sure I want you on the Pacers next year. It's not entirely his fault, though. Someone on our team needed to tell Ron to straighten out. Coach could have sat him, but he didn't. It was a pitiful outing by Ron.

Bender should have played more minutes. He produced a spark off the bench and I think we could have rode him to victory if he would have gotten the ball more.

Austin Croshere looked ineffective. He tried to make something happen, but the referees did not do their jobs correctly and, overall, he just did not play well.

How did Tinsley get all those fouls? Again, I blame the refs.

Jeff played less than spectacularly, but then again, it's not his role to take over a game. I think that he can come out and surprise the Pistons like he did the Miami Heat.

Harrington did okay. He has looked bad ever since the first round & I hope he comes ready to play in game 3. We need him to start making his jumpshots and his turnaround, not to mention his free throws.

Anthony Johnson was one of two Pacers who I thought played well, the other being Reggie. AJ passed up some good shots, but his role is not to take the shots unless he has to. He played how he was supposed to.

Last thought after "tonight's" game:

I think we can win this series in five still. I think that if we come to play tomorrow night, we can steal that game from them. In the next home game, I believe the Pacers will prove their true colors--which I believe are the colors of glory and victory. They have the ability to take both Detroit home games & I think they will. Then, they will have the opportunity to close out the series here at home, where they will not want to lose again. No matter how many games we win in Detroit (of the next two), I am still confident that we can pull out this series victory.

I will not read any other threads because I am afraid of the negativity, which is to be expected after a hard loss. I'm afraid to see if Shade has completely given up on us now. I don't want to see all the threads about trading Ron or Al. I will just take it cool and be ready to root for my Pacers tomorrow night. I am hoping that all Pacers fans will be supportive instead of giving up or bashing the team.

[hr]

Anyway, why wasn't this thread locked already? :D

{This was the first time I ever attempted to post my complete thoughts on the game, so I bet I offended a lot of people. :D Even if I have shown my basketball knowledge to be minimal, I still believe in every one of my opinions.}