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carpediem024
06-08-2007, 12:03 PM
So Durant can't bench 185; who cares.

But Oden is quicker than Durant?

3/4 Court Sprint: Durant 3.45 sec. - Oden 3.27 sec.

Lane Agility Drill: Durant 12.33 sec. - Oden 11.67 sec.

Oden is pretty quick for a big man, his numbers are significantly faster than Aldridge posted at last summer's combine. (lane agility in 12.02; three-quarter court in 3.43)

No Step Vertical Jump: Durant 26.0 - Oden 32.0

Maximum Vertical Jump: Durant 33.5 - Oden 34.0

avoidingtheclowns
06-08-2007, 12:30 PM
So Durant can't bench 185; who cares.

But Oden is quicker than Durant?

3/4 Court Sprint: Durant 3.45 sec. - Oden 3.27 sec.

Lane Agility Drill: Durant 12.33 sec. - Oden 11.67 sec.

Oden is pretty quick for a big man, his numbers are significantly faster than Aldridge posted at last summer's combine. (lane agility in 12.02; three-quarter court in 3.43)

No Step Vertical Jump: Durant 26.0 - Oden 32.0

Maximum Vertical Jump: Durant 33.5 - Oden 34.0

its not really fair to compare the two, isn't greg 30?

carpediem024
06-08-2007, 12:44 PM
its not really fair to compare the two, isn't greg 30?


Haha lol. But yeah I expected Durant to do better on the sprints and agility drills. I don't really care much about the 185 bench press. I don't know how good he'll be.

Kegboy
06-08-2007, 12:46 PM
What I thought was cool was they said on PTI that Conley weighs like 175, yet he benched 185 13 times (in comparison I think they said Noah did 12 reps). That's really impressive.

Naptown_Seth
06-08-2007, 12:59 PM
I found a great discussion of this issue in relation to past camps over at Draft Express. I'll quote their recap of the last few years, though the article in total is a bit longer.

http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2096


Who was the top athlete in the 2003 draft? Thinking logically about that draft, you’d probably assume it was a toss up between Dwyane Wade (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2096#) and Lebron James. But in fact, it was 6-2 shooting guard Troy Bell, who did not make it past his rookie contract before being cut by the man who reached badly to draft him in Jerry West. Bell was affectionately nicknamed “Troy Airbell” by ACB Spanish league fans he horrified with the air-balls he jacked up playing for Real Madrid, and struggled this past season to run a D-League team. Bell measured a 41 inch vertical leap (which would rank 1st in this year’s combine), ran a 3.06 in the court sprint (also 1st), and bench pressed the 185 pound bar 17 times (fourth amongst guards). If Bell were eligible this year, he most likely again would be deemed the top athlete in this year’s draft too.

Who was (supposedly) the 2nd best athlete in that draft? Brandon Hunter, an eventual late 2nd round pick who was relegated to the 2nd division in Italy this year playing for Livorno. Dwyane Wade, possibly the best overall athlete in the NBA today, ranked 14th. Chris Bosh finished 51st. Chris Kaman (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2096#) 45th. In that same year, TJ Ford measured in as being slower in the various footspeed tests than Chris Kaman, Kirk Penney and Carmelo Anthony. Huh? Anyone that has ever seen him play would tell you that he is one of the fastest players in the NBA, if not the fastest.

In 2004, we found a similar story. Kirk Snyder came out as the top overall athlete, while players like Andre Iguodala, Luol Deng (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2096#) and Al Jefferson’s draft stock supposedly took a hit by measuring out as relatively poor athletes. That same Andre Iguodala who was robbed of the slam dunk championship a year ago, only recorded a 34 inch vertical leap, one inch more than J.J. Redick (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=16) last year. Rickey Paulding, Timmy Bowers and Luis Flores were all declared amongst the top 10 athletes in the draft. One averaged 13 points per game this past season in France, one came off the bench in the Israeli league, and the other finished just a notch ahead of Brandon Hunter’s team in Italy and was also relegated to the 2nd division.

The 2005 draft combine was equally as pointless. Monta Ellis (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=289) ranked as the worst athlete of all the players measured, coming out slow, weak and with very little leaping ability. Once the NBA season started and the ball actually rolled out on the court, though, he magically transformed into a spectacular athlete who can get his shot at will and dunks anything and everything that is remotely close to the basket, despite only being 6-3. Eventual rookie of the year Chris Paul (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=14) was declared only the 15th best athlete amongst the players tested, and was somehow deemed slower than Deron Williams (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=72), Sean May (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=11) and Wayne Simien (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=82). The athletic tests also led you to believe that Andrew Bogut (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=70) was some kind of stiff who would never be able to keep up with the speed of the NBA--that is, until the players actually started playing basketball and we found out that he is actually a fine athlete for a player his size. Julius Hodge (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=8) is out of the league thanks to a bad attitude, awful shooting mechanics and some very average athletic ability, but don’t tell that to the people who tested him out as the 26th best athlete in that draft, with a court sprint that would rank him amongst the fastest players in 2007.

avoidingtheclowns
06-08-2007, 01:07 PM
i'm amused by the concept of sean may being faster than anyone not named jabba much less chris paul.