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Unclebuck
05-14-2007, 09:00 AM
I'm not sure if too many of you really care when the season will start - we all know it will start soon enough, but I'm interested in these type things.

The World series is being pushed back 4 days starting on a Wednesday - that would mean game 6 and 7 would be the following Wednesday and Thursday which would be right when the NBA season starts. The NBA season starts with two games on that Tuesday and then a full schedule on Wednesday. So will this mean the NBA will start a week later - November 6, will they just start it during the end of the World Series - or do they go back to the way they used to do it and start it on a Friday.

My guess is the NBA will start their season a week later than normal - November 6. The problem with that is that pushes the NBA Finals back a week

It seems to me that the NBA is always having to change their schedule to accomodate other sports. The All star game is at least 2 weeks later than it used to be because the Super Bowl is later. Now the World Series is pushing back the start of the season - so then the NBA playoffs will be a week later. The traditional Thanksgiving night NBA game has been banished by the NFL scheduling a game then, the NFL schedules their draft during the first or second weekend of the NBA playoffs. It just seems like the NBA calendar is being gobbled up by these other sports. I know the other sports do it because they can and if the NBA was more popular they could set their own schedule without regard to other sports.



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Midweek Series start could leave Fox, baseball in the cold

By Michael Hiestand, USA TODAY
Major League Baseball and Fox will make it official Monday: the World Series on Fox this fall will start on a Wednesday ? not the usual Saturday.
For the first time, a potential Series game will be scheduled for November.

And if you thought the Detroit Tigers' week-long layoff before last year's Series seemed long, get this: The potential wait for the National League champion this fall could be as long as a record nine days.

The Series is also ready to go one-on-one with Monday Night Football.

The idea is to make the Series, which produced its lowest-ever ratings the past two years, more media-genic. It's like a TV mini-series, where it's critical to hook viewers from the get-go. With its first two games on Wednesday and Thursday, rather than Saturday and Sunday, it will debut in the sports world's spotlight ? not competing for attention with football (and NASCAR and golf) on the weekend. Says Fox Sports president Ed Goren on starting mid-week: "It's very simple. You're immediately helping yourself."

In the new schedule, the Series will skip Friday night, TV's second least-watched night after Saturday. Bob DuPuy, MLB president, says MLB considered starting the Series on Tuesday, rather than Wednesday. But a Tuesday Series start would have meant a Friday game ? and avoiding Friday was a key priority.

The Series rejiggering revolves around Saturday night not being all right for the Series' opening night. It will start Wednesday, Oct. 24, four days after what would have been its usual Saturday debut. Not only is Saturday TV's least-watched night ? its overall TV viewership is 15% lower than Wednesday night ? but it's also become increasingly competitive. ABC last year began routinely moving marquee college football to Saturday primetime, when ESPN and ESPN2 also carry games, and got seven of last season's eight most-watched college football games.

Avoiding Saturday night football is also a reason why baseball might eventually play a late-afternoon Saturday game ? all Series games are in East Coast primetime now ? and give more kids a chance to see the Series.

Sunday nights, when the Series' second game used to air on TV's most-watched and most-competitive night, aren't what they used to be. Now, the NFL's lead primetime TV package ? with, on paper, the best game schedule ? is on NBC Sunday. Now the Series will jump into the Sunday night TV mosh pit with a potentially pivotal fourth game. Monday Night Football, which MLB used to skirt when it was on ABC, isn't as daunting now that it's on ESPN and now will face the Series' fifth game, if necessary, this fall.

The Series, if necessary, would play its biggest games ? Game 6 on Wednesday and Game 7 on Thursday ? apart from the weekend sports competition it used to face when those games were played on Saturday and Sunday.

Game 7 is scheduled for Nov. 1. (Only once have Series games gone into the same month as Thanksgiving when 9/11 forced postponements in 2001.) While prolonging the postseason means more off days to reduce complications from rainouts, it also increases the chance MLB will be ridiculed for playing in a November snowstorm. Maybe Commissioner Bud Selig, la Bowie Kuhn, will be in the stands without a topcoat.

On tap: Monday, Shaquille O'Neal will be a guest analyst on TNT's NBA studio show for the first time. Imagine being a buffet double-teamed by Shaq and Charles Barkley. ? On a new HBO Real Sports debuting Monday night, Thoroughbred breeder and owner Arthur Hancock argues race horses are getting too many performance-enhancing drugs ? "we've got to get rid of the drugs and thugs." But he overlooks how ponies are taking up baseball and hitting the long ball.

Happy day: Dale Earnhardt Jr., explained to Fox's Darrell Waltrip why he's leaving the race team headed by his stepmother: "Because I didn't like and respect who I was driving for." So much for Mother's Day.

What's not to like: NBC's coverage of The Players had great shots from its camera in the bunker at the course's water-encircled 17th hole, excellent audio eavesdropping on players after shots and the usual lively comments from NBC golf team, like Dan Hicks saying "with a name like (Sean) O'Hair, you'd think he'd play quicker." Later, Johnny Miller would make a good point about O'Hair wiggling around before his shots: "He has more moves than kung fu."

colonialspacers
05-14-2007, 09:08 AM
The Series is also ready to go one-on-one with Monday Night Football.


That should be yet another ugly and embarassing wakeup call for baseball. :laugh:

Fool
05-14-2007, 10:27 AM
Basketball is indoors. It doesn't matter when they play it IMO.

Robobtowncolt
05-14-2007, 10:44 AM
Cool, now we might be able to watch the NBA Finals a week before training camp. No off-season! Score!

grace
05-14-2007, 12:29 PM
Does anyone actually watch the World Series if the Yankees aren't in it?

Evan_The_Dude
05-14-2007, 01:45 PM
Yeah. I watch the World Series as long as the Yankees aren't in it. But that's the only time I watch Baseball. I think the sport sucks and 162 games is about 132 too many.

Naptown_Seth
05-14-2007, 02:00 PM
I am a huge baseball fan (I go to spring training and catch 6-7 games most years now) and a Yanks fan too btw (since 76 thanks to everyone else liking the Reds vs the Yanks).

But this is just a huge WTF!!!! to me. Selig is a nimrod, the ratings are dropping because of stuff just like this. They had to add more playoffs, they had to extend them to 7 game series which implies more importance than a 5 game series does, and they've killed off doubleheaders for the most part due to ticket sales income (as far as I can figure).

Stern has been slow to realize that doing the same thing to the NBA's playoffs hurt them, that fans LOVE the NCAA tourney despite multiple games being played at once (that's a big part of the excitement IMO), and that dragging these things out hurts interest rather than helps it.


And if I were the NBA I'd stick to biz as usual and start when you start (NOV 1 basically). NOV baseball is a freaking joke. You should only have the WS in October as it stands. I'm starting to like the idea of cutting it back from 162 to 154 games. With the unbalanced schedule you already see too much of the division rivalries. It's turning Sox/Yanks into a boring matchup because it happens way too often.

ABADays
05-14-2007, 03:06 PM
I am a huge baseball fan (I go to spring training and catch 6-7 games most years now) and a Yanks fan too btw (since 76 thanks to everyone else liking the Reds vs the Yanks).

But this is just a huge WTF!!!! to me. Selig is a nimrod, the ratings are dropping because of stuff just like this. They had to add more playoffs, they had to extend them to 7 game series which implies more importance than a 5 game series does, and they've killed off doubleheaders for the most part due to ticket sales income (as far as I can figure).

Stern has been slow to realize that doing the same thing to the NBA's playoffs hurt them, that fans LOVE the NCAA tourney despite multiple games being played at once (that's a big part of the excitement IMO), and that dragging these things out hurts interest rather than helps it.


And if I were the NBA I'd stick to biz as usual and start when you start (NOV 1 basically). NOV baseball is a freaking joke. You should only have the WS in October as it stands. I'm starting to like the idea of cutting it back from 162 to 154 games. With the unbalanced schedule you already see too much of the division rivalries. It's turning Sox/Yanks into a boring matchup because it happens way too often.

Good post Seth.

aero
05-14-2007, 07:11 PM
they need to just cancel baseball..who really watches that sport anyway now days...

maragin
05-14-2007, 07:19 PM
I always thought baseball was more of a pastime. ESPN2 stuff. I prefer sports on the main channel.

Mr.ThunderMakeR
05-14-2007, 09:44 PM
Just another reason for me to hate MLB even more! Seriously, I hate that stuff, the only thing they are good for is cheap tickets to the ballpark to kill a boring afternoon.

Shack80
05-15-2007, 07:23 PM
Just another reason for me to hate MLB even more! Seriously, I hate that stuff, the only thing they are good for is cheap tickets to the ballpark to kill a boring afternoon.

I hear that. I used to be a fan as a kid, mostly just liked all the stats. Baseball is awesome for stats. Now I don't even follow it, but enjoy an occasional game live. Screw MLB, the Indians are a lot of fun to go see, what a great little park Indy has.

Dez Junuts
05-15-2007, 09:55 PM
they need to just cancel baseball..who really watches that sport anyway now days...



:buddies:

ROCislandWarrior
05-15-2007, 10:42 PM
Sounds to me like some of you guys have a complex.


If only there was an MLB team in your city...

grace
05-15-2007, 10:53 PM
If only there was a NHL team in your city...

That I might agree with.

ROCislandWarrior
05-15-2007, 11:03 PM
Grace thank you for correcting my mistake...both of them ;)

BoomBaby31
05-16-2007, 01:38 AM
Does anyone actually watch the World Series if the Yankees aren't in it?

Lol, I didn't even know professional baseball existed until I moved to L.A. Even as an avid dodger fan, the baseball season is too damn long.

clownskull
05-16-2007, 01:01 PM
agree with those who hate baseball. it sucks. i avoid it always. the one thing i hate with most summers is that it is far too often the only sporting event on so i have to watch pre-recorded basketball games on my vcr. i always hope for another strike.