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Iceman1
05-09-2007, 11:05 PM
According to the Indy Star web site.....http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070509/SPORTS04/705090585

Jermaniac
05-09-2007, 11:06 PM
Good I like Stan Van Gundy.

Kegboy
05-09-2007, 11:08 PM
Pacers talk to former Heat coach
Van Gundy led Miami for 2 years; Mitchell still on team's radar
By Mike Wells
mike.wells@indystar.com
May 9, 2007


The Indiana Pacers have spoken to former Miami Heat coach Stan Van Gundy about their coaching vacancy, a person with knowledge of the situation said Wednesday.

Van Gundy had no comment when reached by phone Wednesday evening.

Van Gundy hasn't coached since resigning from the Heat in December 2005. Van Gundy is under contract with the Heat through the end of next season, but Miami officials are granting teams permission to talk to him. He interviewed with the Charlotte Bobcats last week.

Van Gundy was 112-73 in two-plus seasons with the Heat and guided them to the 2005 Eastern Conference finals. Heat president Pat Riley replaced him after an 11-10 start last season and led Miami to the title.

Toronto coach Sam Mitchell is widely regarded as the Pacers' top choice to replace Rick Carlisle. The Pacers have not asked permission to talk to Mitchell, who is under contract until June 30. Raptors president Bryan Colangelo told Toronto media last weekend he wanted to talk with Mitchell soon.

Two Pacers assistant coaches, Johnny Davis and Chuck Person, have interest in the job, but neither has been contacted.

Team president Larry Bird is leading the search, which could lengthen if Bird wants to talk to assistant coaches for teams still in the playoffs. Phoenix assistant Marc Iavaroni is believed to be on the Pacers' list of candidates.

Kegboy
05-09-2007, 11:11 PM
So is SVG candidate #4, or is Iavaroni, or is Vecsey full of ****, per usual.

I feel the same way about Stan that I do about Mitchell and Iavaroni. I think any of them can do a good job, provided they're on the same page as TPTB as far as vision for the team, and TPTB get them players that fit that vision.

Anthem
05-09-2007, 11:20 PM
I'd take SVG way before Sam Mitchell.

Things are looking up.

Trader Joe
05-09-2007, 11:29 PM
I would take either SVG or Mitchell or Iavaroni. As long as we get 1 of those 3 I'm good.

skyfire
05-09-2007, 11:30 PM
While I think SVG is a decent coach, I always got the impression that his brother was the better of the two.

Eindar
05-09-2007, 11:33 PM
Great news. I don't mind if we don't get him, but I wanted to hear that we at least interviewed him. If he can get Lamar Odom to play hard for 82 games, he's a winner in my book. I was also happy to hear Iavaroni's name come up.

On a side note, and obviously we don't have a player of D. Wade's caliber on this team, but has anyone thought about the possibility of hiring SVG and trading O'Neal to the Lakers, reuniting Odom and SVG?

Unclebuck
05-09-2007, 11:44 PM
SVG's press conferences are very entertaining.

Is "talk to" the same as interview. The article isn't very clear

avoidingtheclowns
05-09-2007, 11:52 PM
While I think SVG is a decent coach, I always got the impression that his brother was the better of the two.

jeff has had more opportunities to demonstrate coaching ability. i was fairly impressed with the heat with stan. and who knows what he would have done coaching-wise had he been coaching a team without Riles in the front office.

jcouts
05-09-2007, 11:53 PM
If the Pacers hire SVG, that makes the O'neal for Odom trade make even more sense. Odom played the best ball of his career for SVG.

Naptown_Seth
05-09-2007, 11:58 PM
I'd take SVG way before Sam Mitchell.

Things are looking up.
I agree. I mean look at how many of us flipped out when we heard that someone else had talked to him first.

SVG has won, and it was pre-Shaq. Sam was horrible his first 2 years AND so annoyed Vinsanity that he demanded to be traded...but locals were upset that Rick alienated some of the non-stars. Imagine if JO was demanding a trade instead of saying he wanted to stay with the team if possible.


But I wonder if SVG is a legit candidate. I suspect that he was brought in just to find out and that possibly both sides were just doing a "what the heck, might as well look into it" rather than thinking they were interested. I don't know, the vibe to me feels like neither side is looking to go in this direction. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to give SVG 3 years to show what he can do.

Shade
05-10-2007, 02:36 AM
I'm not sure how I feel about Ron Jerem...er...Mari...uh...Stan Van Gundy coaching the Pacers, but we could do a lot worse (read: Sam Mitchell).

DisplacedKnick
05-10-2007, 06:30 AM
I feel the same way about Stan that I do about Mitchell and Iavaroni. I think any of them can do a good job, provided they're on the same page as TPTB as far as vision for the team, and TPTB get them players that fit that vision.

You think TPTB have a vision for the team?

DisapointedPacerFan
05-10-2007, 06:39 AM
Seems like a good coach to have for the position. However, didn't he say that he was retiring now that the rockets are out?

Unclebuck
05-10-2007, 07:33 AM
I'm doing a search to find some Stan Van Gundy artticles

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=2256435&type=story

Monday, December 12, 2005
Updated: December 16, 11:53 AM ET
Heat coach Van Gundy resigns; Riley returns

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Associated Press

MIAMI -- Pat Riley and Stan Van Gundy walked off the dais together Monday, then went in opposite directions.


Riley packed his tailored suits and headed back to the NBA sidelines, looking to add another entry to his long and glowing coaching resume. Van Gundy simply went home.


Months after he said he wanted to reclaim more of a hands-on role with the team -- a comment that prompted rampant speculation he was about to fire his former protege -- Riley returned to the business of coaching. Van Gundy quit to spend more time with his family, and will stay with the team in a limited capacity.


"I was happy for him when I hired him 11 years ago," Riley said. "I was happy for him when I stepped aside and gave him an opportunity that was well-deserved. And I am happy for him today, absolutely."


The 60-year-old Riley said he hasn't looked at a playbook in two years. He's probably doing that right now for Tuesday night's game in Chicago.


"I think I know my way around a 94-by-50 court," Riley said. "I know what the hell I'm doing when I'm out there. But right now, I'm a little bit lost. So I'm going to depend a lot on the staff that we have presently. But no, I really wasn't thinking about replacements."



Riley said he spent the last six weeks trying to persuade Van Gundy to stay, and his former top assistant insisted his decision was voluntary. Players, who were not available for comment because they were traveling, were told Monday morning.


Van Gundy's job security has been scrutinized since the Heat lost Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals to Detroit at home last June -- a game where Miami's superstars, Shaquille O'Neal and Dwyane Wade, were both injured.


The Heat entered the season with big ambitions, but they are just 11-10, although Miami has been hit by injuries, including a sprained ankle that sidelined O'Neal for all but three of those games.


"If I'm getting forced out, I would have gotten absolutely every dollar on my contract and walked out the door," Van Gundy said. "That's not what happened here. ... Anybody who's speculating otherwise has to do so in total disregard of the facts of the situation."


Riley came to the Heat in 1995 after winning four titles with the "Showtime" Los Angeles Lakers of Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, followed by a stint with the Knicks. He has won 1,110 games in 21 seasons, the third-highest victory total in NBA history.


Van Gundy has always professed to being a family-first man, someone who abhors road trips and the idea of spending holidays away from his wife and four children. He said that because of travel, games and practices, he would have seen his children at home only 49 days out of 170 this season.


"That's just not enough any more for me. It's just not enough," Van Gundy said. "I mean, it's been like that for my kids' entire lives. I've got a 14-year-old daughter and it started to hit me when I started thinking about her birthday, which was last month. I've got four more years left with her. Four. And then she'll be off to college and I'm just not willing to sacrifice any more of those four more years."


Van Gundy said he began wrestling with the balance between job and family during the preseason, and told Riley after the regular-season opener at Memphis that they needed to talk about the future.


"I can't believe people have that big a problem actually believing that someone would actually want to spend time with their family," Van Gundy said. "I don't know why that's so hard for people to buy into."


Riley resigned as Heat coach shortly before the 2003-04 season, walking into Van Gundy's office one morning and asking his top assistant, "You ready?" Van Gundy went 42-40 in his first season, then 59-23 last year when Miami was the No. 1 seed for the East playoffs.


The team underwent a major roster shakeup this offseason, with Riley saying he was building a team to win a title now. Eddie Jones, Damon Jones and Rasual Butler were among those moving on; Riley brought in Antoine Walker, Jason Williams and James Posey, among others, to replace them.


And winning respect of the players won't be a difficult chore for Riley. Most of them call him "Coach" already, and O'Neal commonly refers to him as "the great Pat Riley."


That's why he has no qualms about taking over, even if he truly wanted Van Gundy to stay.


"I have a responsibility to this team and to the players that I traded for, the picks," Riley said. "And I think right now, at this moment, that I'm the best person to do that."


The move came nearly four years to the day after Jeff Van Gundy, Stan's younger brother, resigned as Knicks coach 19 games into the 2001-02 season. Jeff Van Gundy, now the Houston Rockets coach, said at the time he'd lost his focus and thought about quitting since that summer.


"The question I've always had for him is, 'why did you go back,'" Stan Van Gundy said.


He also had the same question for Riley during a recent meeting they had at his Malibu, Calif., home. Riley flew out during a recent Heat road trip, bringing Van Gundy over for a final pitch to keep him as coach.


Instead, the talk only strengthened Van Gundy's belief that leaving was the right idea.


"I regret the timing," Van Gundy said. "I think that for the team, it stinks. The timing of it stinks. And I wish that I could have made the decision in the offseason, but in the offseason, you don't feel like this."

Unclebuck
05-10-2007, 07:38 AM
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_29_229/ai_n14797620/print



Van Gundy is good; Riley is better: is Pat Riley getting that championship itch again?at the expense of Stan Van Gundy?

Ira Winderman
Pat Riley has spent two seasons in the shadows. But those who know the Heat president realize he is not one to hide from a challenge. That's why this season could prove to be the ultimate test for his sideline successor, Stan Van Gundy.

Based on his record, Van Gundy would appear to have as much stability as any NBA coach this side of Gregg Popovich. But because of how the Heat's season ended, with Shaquille O'Neal complaining about a lack of touches during the final minutes of the Eastern Conference finals and Damon Jones allowed to hobble too long on a bum ankle, doubts have accompanied the team into the offseason.

So has the possibility of Riley reemerging on the bench.

"I'm not ever going to rule it out," Riley said after the Heat's disappointing finish against the Pistons. "I may take a little bit more of an active participation in some things. But, I think, for the most part, I'm content with what I'm doing."

From "active participation" to "for the most part," plenty has been read between the lines.

Van Gundy certainly is in a unique situation. No other current coach works under a Hall of Fame coach (with Riley, it's only a matter of time). In fact, few front offices employ executives with the credentials to step into a huddle. Even in those cases, it's not as though Indiana's Larry Bird or Boston's Danny Ainge has displayed any interest in getting close to a bench. And no one in New Orleans is giving much thought to another sideline opportunity for Allan Bristow. In fact, in recent years, only one executive (the Knicks' Isiah Thomas) has been perceived as lurking.

For his part, Riley has attempted to quell speculation in Miami. "I made a comment that day, and it turned out to be sort of a firestorm," he says. "I simply meant I want to help."

He also insists no Heat player (and there have been plenty of rumors amid the ongoing contract negotiations with Shaq) has requested he replace Van Gundy.

"Never," he says. "No. No. No. That has not happened."

Van Gundy's brother, Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy, went on a radio show and spoke of the need for clearer signals from Riley. Jeff also mentioned that if Riley were to step in sooner rather than later there at least would be immediate opportunities for his brother to coach elsewhere.

Though admirable, the concern is misplaced. As it is, after Nate McMillan's defection from Seattle to Portland, Stan Van Gundy is tied for the fourth-longest coaching tenure with his current team, behind only Jerry Sloan in Utah, Popovich in San Antonio and Rick Adelman in Sacramento.

Yes, Riley stepped down when his team was down. Yes, he endured more playoff misery than success during his eight seasons on the Heat bench. But, at the end of the day, he remains the best coach under contract to the organization. He has earned the right to have any level of involvement he wishes.

For Van Gundy, any change in his job status would be nothing more than another lesson learned from a master.

Kegboy
05-10-2007, 02:58 PM
You think TPTB have a vision for the team?

I don't think they've had one for a while, but they damn well need to come up with one.

rexnom
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
I am all for Stan van Gundy...he's shown that he can handle a talented team, a less talented team, and a talented but young talented team.

I'm guessing the Pacers (ideally) will probably go through all three phases. He's a good coach for that kind of thing.

Knucklehead Warrior
05-10-2007, 03:08 PM
But I wonder if SVG is a legit candidate. I suspect that he was brought in just to find out and that possibly both sides were just doing a "what the heck, might as well look into it" rather than thinking they were interested. I don't know, the vibe to me feels like neither side is looking to go in this direction. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love to give SVG 3 years to show what he can do.

I think TPTB are looking around because they are waiting for Mitchell to have his conversation with Colangelo. TPTB & Mitchell will both have a better idea of where they stand after that conversation. If they talk to him now, what can he say except he has to wait to see what Colangelo says? Also he can take a Pacer offer back to Colangelo for bargaining purposes if it comes down to that (which I don't think it will).

If he's already had that conversation he can be pressured to accept, especiallly if Toronto doesn't want him. "Well Sam, it's pretty obvious we want you and this would be a good situation for you, so you don't really need to talk to anyone else. We've got SVG in the wings. Yea or nay."

Also, until he's had that conversation, nobody, including him knows if he's available.

grace
05-10-2007, 04:52 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about Ron Jerem...er...Mari...uh...Stan Van Gundy coaching the Pacers, but we could do a lot worse (read: Sam Mitchell).


You think TPTB have a vision for the team?


I have a vision of Magic Rat coming up with picture of the Pacers in a "movie" with Stan.

Robobtowncolt
05-10-2007, 05:01 PM
I have a vision of Magic Rat coming up with picture of the Pacers in a "movie" with Stan.

I'd rather he didn't. Everyone here has seen enough of the Pacers getting pounded this year.

Since86
05-10-2007, 05:03 PM
Wow, that's great.

That's post of the year material right there.

grace
05-10-2007, 05:07 PM
Wow, that's great.

That's post of the year material right there.

Since the nominations are already closed I guess you'll have to bookmark it for next year.