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BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 07:50 PM
;) :D Put MIAMI in a VICE!!! :D ;) [hr]
http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/IND.gif-VS-http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/MIA.gif

Game Time Start: 7:00 pm Indiana Time (8:00 pm EDT)

Pacers-Heat Playoff Schedule: (All Indianapolis Times)
GAME    DAY  DATE  SITE  TIME     RESULT
Game 1  Thu  5/6   IND   8 pm     Pacers 94, Heat 81 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040506/MIAIND/boxscore.html)
Game 2  Sat  5/8   IND   6 pm     Pacers 91, Heat 80 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040508/MIAIND/boxscore.html)
Game 3  Mon  5/10  MIA   7 pm     --
Game 4  Wed  5/12  MIA   7 pm     --
Game 5* Sat  5/15  IND   TBA      --
Game 6* Tue  5/18  MIA   7 pm     --
Game 7* Thu  5/20  IND   TBA      --
* - If Necessary

Tonight's Projected Starting Matchups:
  Pacers          Heat
         CENTER
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jeff_foster.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/brian_grant.jpg
  Foster (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jeff_foster/index.html?nav=page)        Grant (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/brian_grant/index.html?nav=page)
      POWER FORWARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jermaine_oneal.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/lamar_odom.jpg
  O'Neal (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jermaine_oneal/index.html?nav=page)         Odom (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/lamar_odom/index.html?nav=page)
      SMALL FORWARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/ron_artest.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/caron_butler.jpg
  Artest (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ron_artest/index.html?nav=page)        Butler (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/caron_butler/index.html?nav=page)
      SHOOTING GUARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/reggie_miller.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/eddie_jones.jpg
  Miller (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/reggie_miller/index.html?nav=page)        Jones (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/eddie_jones/index.html?nav=page)
      POINT GUARD
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jamaal_tinsley.jpg -VS- http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/dwyane_wade.jpg
  Tinsley (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamaal_tinsley/index.html?nav=page)        Wade (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dwyane_wade/index.html?nav=page)


Pacers-Celtics 1st Round Results:
GAME    DATE  SITE  RESULT
Game 1  4/17  IND   Pacers 104, Celtics 88 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040417/BOSIND/boxscore.html)
Game 2  4/20  IND   Pacers 103, Celtics 90 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040420/BOSIND/boxscore.html)
Game 3  4/23  BOS   Pacers 108, Celtics 85 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040423/INDBOS/boxscore.html)
Game 4  4/25  BOS   Pacers 90, Celtics 75 (http://www.nba.com/games/20040425/INDBOS/boxscore.html)

sweabs
05-10-2004, 07:52 PM
Answer to the poll: All of the above!! :laugh: .

ROCislandWarrior
05-10-2004, 07:54 PM
Answer to the poll: All of the above!! :laugh: .

Our fast break D was good last game

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 07:55 PM
Answer to the poll: All of the above!! :laugh: .

See, that's why I usually never add that as an option to my polls, because it's too easy to pick that (heck, I'd pick that! :D )

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 08:11 PM
JO starts the scoring on the inside pass from Jeff :)

Neither team lighting it up - still 2-2 at the 7:30 mark

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 08:28 PM
The offense already looks better than it did for most of last game...

:pacers: 14
:heat: 8

Play-by-Play
(3:11) [MIA] Team Timeout: Regular
(3:19) [IND 14-8] Artest Dunk Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Tinsley (1 AST)
(3:27) [IND] O'Neal Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(3:29) [MIA] Allen
(3:48) [MIA] Grant Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(3:50) [IND] Harrington Jump Shot: Missed
(3:59) [IND] F. Jones Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(4:00) [MIA] Grant Jump Shot: Missed
(4:18) [IND 12-8] Artest Jump Shot: Made (3 PTS) Assist: F. Jones (1 AST)
(4:34) [IND] Miller Substitution replaced by Harrington
(4:34) [IND] Foster Substitution replaced by F. Jones
(4:34) [IND] Team Timeout: Regular
(4:43) [MIA 8-9] Grant Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS)
(5:07) [IND 9-6] O'Neal Turnaround Jump: Made (4 PTS)
(5:27) [MIA 6-7] E. Jones Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: C. Butler (1 AST)

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 08:34 PM
End of the 1st Quarter:

:pacers: 20
:heat: 14

SpADeD
05-10-2004, 08:35 PM
At the end of the 1st quarter when they were showing JO walk to the bench after being subbed out, was that Scottie Pippen I saw? Or was I just seing things?

sweabs
05-10-2004, 08:36 PM
I saw Pippen too - don't worry you ain't seein things.

I really like what I see so far from the guys...FREDDIE'S CROSSOVER WAS SICKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SpADeD
05-10-2004, 08:38 PM
I saw Pippen too - don't worry you ain't seein things.

I really like what I see so far from the guys...FREDDIE'S CROSSOVER WAS SICKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good, wonder what he is doing there, but regardless he better be cheering on Uncle Reg.

And everyone in Miami thought that was a foul when Freddie crossed them up. :laugh:

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 08:50 PM
YIKES!!!! Odom with the throwdown! :o

TMJ31
05-10-2004, 08:55 PM
this is some ugly basketball...

wow...

no FT's with like 3 mins left in the HALF

sweabs
05-10-2004, 08:55 PM
COME ON JERMAINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

sweabs
05-10-2004, 09:01 PM
Why are we having to rely on 30 ft jumpers from Tinsley!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Lucky it went in...

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 09:08 PM
Halftime Score:

:heat: 39
:pacers: 35

Play-by-Play
(0:00) End Period
(0:00) [MIA] Team Rebound
(0:00) [MIA] Wade Jump Shot: Missed
(0:02) [MIA] Grant Rebound (Off:1 Def:6)
(0:02) [IND] Artest Jump Shot: Missed
(0:19) [IND] Foster Rebound (Off:3 Def:3)
(0:21) [MIA] C. Butler Jump Shot: Missed
(0:30) [MIA] E. Jones Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(0:32) [IND] O'Neal Turnaround Jump: Missed
(0:48) [MIA 39-35] Allen Jump Shot: Made (10 PTS) Assist: C. Butler (4 AST)
(1:13) [IND 35-37] Tinsley Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS)
(1:34) [MIA 37-33] E. Jones Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Wade (4 AST)
(1:50) [MIA] Grant Rebound (Off:1 Def:5)
(1:52) [IND] Foster Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(1:52) [IND 33-34] Foster Free Throw 1 of 2 (3 PTS)

Ragnar
05-10-2004, 09:12 PM
Why are we having to rely on 30 ft jumpers from Tinsley!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Lucky it went in...

The better question is they in the world did AJ play 11 minutes in the first half. Thats more than I want him to play in the entire game let alone the half.

Unclebuck
05-10-2004, 09:23 PM
That was not an ugly first half, i found the first half very exciting.

Tinsley was the pacers best player, and I don't think I have ever said that. But Tinsley combined his scoring of game one with his playmaking of game 2. His two great passes midway through the first quarter were unbelievable.

I am very confident about the second half, pacers will win unless The heat hit a bunch of threes

sweabs
05-10-2004, 09:25 PM
Please Jermaine - how are you going to let Malik Allen show you up like that???????

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 09:41 PM
:heat: 55
:pacers: 46

Play-by-Play
(5:35) [MIA] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:35) [MIA] Haslem Foul: Loose Ball (1 PF)
(5:36) [IND] Artest Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(5:37) [IND] Artest Driving Dunk: Missed Block: Allen (1 BLK)
(5:48) [MIA 55-46] E. Jones Jump Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Wade (6 AST)
(6:05) [IND 46-52] Tinsley Driving Layup: Made (10 PTS)
(6:10) [IND] Tinsley Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(6:11) [MIA] E. Jones Jump Shot: Missed
(6:22) [MIA] Team Rebound
(6:22) [IND] Miller Jump Shot: Missed
(6:36) [MIA 52-44] Haslem Jump Shot: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Wade (5 AST)
(6:56) [MIA] Odom Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(6:57) [IND] O'Neal Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(6:57) [MIA] Grant Substitution replaced by Haslem
(6:57) [IND] Team Rebound

efx
05-10-2004, 09:41 PM
I don't care what anyone says, JO is not worth the money he is paid. He is a very good player but he is not great.

I can't believe how poorly the team is playing atm.

sweabs
05-10-2004, 09:42 PM
JO certainly hasn't played like an MVP candidate thus far in the series... :(

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 09:43 PM
Wow. Pacers look like crap. They can't play this way if they plan on winning the game.
:mad:

Are Bender/Croshere going to get any minutes? It wouldn't hurt to see if they can contribute.

efx
05-10-2004, 09:43 PM
Exactly, and I don't care about how well one plays in the regular season, now is when it matters and he simply hasn't shown up.

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 09:48 PM
Jamaal is bringing his A game tonight :cool:

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 09:48 PM
Without Tinsley, the Pacers are down by 15-20 pts easy. He's the only one keeping the Pacers in this game.

sweabs
05-10-2004, 09:51 PM
TINSLEY FOR MVP :blush:

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 09:58 PM
'Atta boy, Bender! Way to be aggressive. This is what the P's need right now.

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 10:00 PM
That last play not withstanding, JB is giving the team a lift :)

End of the 3rd:

:heat: 64
:pacers: 60

sweabs
05-10-2004, 10:02 PM
CRUNCH TIME - WE WANT REGGIE WE WANT REGGIE WE WANT REGGIE. :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream: :scream:

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 10:14 PM
Jeez the P's FT shooting this game is absolutely HORRIBLE. If they shot better, the Pacers are leading this game right now. Just frustrating as hell.

:banghead:

The Pacers better come to play in game 4, because they sure didn't show up tonight.

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 10:17 PM
If we can just get one run going....

:heat: 68
:pacers: 62

Play-by-Play
(8:42) [IND] Team Timeout: Regular
(8:44) [MIA 68-62] E. Jones Jump Shot: Made (12 PTS)
(8:48) [IND] Tinsley Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal: E. Jones (2 ST)
(9:07) [MIA 68-62] Wade Free Throw 2 of 2 (13 PTS)
(9:07) [IND] Johnson Substitution replaced by Tinsley
(9:07) [IND] F. Jones Substitution replaced by Miller
(9:07) [MIA] Alston Substitution replaced by E. Jones
(9:07) [MIA 65-62] Wade Free Throw 1 of 2 (12 PTS)
(9:07) [IND] Artest Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(9:28) [IND 62-64] F. Jones Free Throw 2 of 2 (1 PTS)
(9:28) [IND] Foster Substitution replaced by O'Neal
(9:28) [IND] Team Rebound
(9:28) [IND] F. Jones Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(9:28) [MIA] Wade Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
(9:48) [IND] Foster Rebound (Off:4 Def:4)

waterjater
05-10-2004, 10:18 PM
Unbelievable misses at the FT line. I agree, we did not show up tonight. Heck, we should've been up 12-2 early as the Heat couldn't do anything.

We are not looking like a good team right now...which is a huge disappointment.

I expected to lose this game because we wouldn't get to the line, but we are and we are stinking the joint up!!

Starting five needs to be in the game now and we need to take this game away.

Trying to keep the faith, but its not easy tonight!!

Water

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 10:21 PM
Miami's giving us plenty of chances with their fouls...

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 10:25 PM
It looks like J.O. woke up and realized that he's supposed to be an MVP candidate. FINALLY making his free throws...keep it up boys. There's no way they get these calls the rest of the quarter.

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 10:26 PM
JO finally gets back to back FTs to fall

:pacers: 69
:heat: 68

efx
05-10-2004, 10:33 PM
Yeah, he's mighty good.

We're not winning this game..

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 10:35 PM
Story of the game: Pacers inch closer and closer into the game before Miami simply outplays them for another run.

It doesn't look like the Pacers are gonna win tonight. And really, with the way they played, the P's didn't deserve it.

:tongue:

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 10:37 PM
Despite everything, we're still only a couple of plays away - I'm still hoping :pray:

:heat: 79
:pacers: 72

Play-by-Play
(2:55) Timeout: Official
(2:55) [MIA] Grant Foul: Personal (5 PF)
(3:07) [MIA 79-72] Odom Free Throw 2 of 2 (13 PTS)
(3:07) [MIA] Team Rebound
(3:07) [MIA] Odom Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(3:07) [IND] Tinsley Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(3:23) [MIA] Grant Rebound (Off:6 Def:9)
(3:25) [MIA] Odom Jump Shot: Missed
(3:39) [MIA] Wade Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(3:41) [IND] O'Neal Jump Shot: Missed
(4:03) [MIA 78-72] C. Butler Free Throw 2 of 2 (6 PTS)
(4:03) [MIA 77-72] C. Butler Free Throw 1 of 2 (5 PTS)
(4:03) [IND] O'Neal Foul: Shooting (5 PF)
(4:13) [IND] Harrington Substitution replaced by Foster
(4:13) [IND] Harrington Foul: Personal (4 PF)

waterjater
05-10-2004, 10:38 PM
You are right! We do not deserve to win tonight! Awful performance.

Funny thing is, if we make 70% of our free throws we still win.

Letting Wade go in for an uncontested dunk in the playoffs is abysmal and should never happen. NO LAYUPS nor embarrassing DUNKS!!

Disgusted

water

efx
05-10-2004, 10:39 PM
Why the heck hasn't reg scored more than 1 point?

indytoad
05-10-2004, 10:39 PM
I don't think it's the loss that's disturbing, it's more the method to the loss. The Heat played probably the worst game of the series and still gave the P's more than they could handle. And something is seriously wrong with JO. I dunno what it is. He's usually reliable in the regular season, but he's been playing like *** all postseason, and against the worst frontlines in the league. Maybe he's just not a good postseason player.

IndyToad
Game over, man

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 10:41 PM
Why the heck hasn't reg scored more than 1 point?

Because he's only had one FGA, and has hardly touched the ball in this quarter

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 10:42 PM
Pacers have only made ONE FG this quarter so far...

:shakehead:

...as the Artest misses a free throw and the game is out of reach.

I just can't express enough how disappointed I am with the effort put forth by the Pacers tonight. Just terrible.

efx
05-10-2004, 10:44 PM
godamnit. This is so stink.

TMJ31
05-10-2004, 10:49 PM
holy shiznit jamaal!

waterjater
05-10-2004, 10:51 PM
JO needs to stop running his mouth off about the lack of respect he and his teammates get and go out and EARN IT in the PLAYOFFS!!

I'm sick and tired of him disappearing in big games!

For focks sake, this was an easily WINNABLE game against a .500 ball club with a ROOKIE point guard, NO INSIDE GAME, and hot head ODUM.

WE SUCKED TONIGHT AND THAT IS A MILD DESCRIPTION!!

Water

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 10:54 PM
:heat: 91
:pacers: 84

Play-by-Play
(0:26) [IND] Team Timeout: Regular
(0:26) [MIA 91-84] Wade Free Throw 2 of 2 (23 PTS)
(0:26) [MIA 90-84] Wade Free Throw 1 of 2 (22 PTS)
(0:26) [IND] Harrington Substitution replaced by Bender
(0:26) [IND] Harrington Foul: Personal (6 PF)
(0:37) [IND 84-89] Artest Jump Shot: Made (14 PTS) Assist: Harrington (1 AST)
(0:39) [IND] Harrington Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(0:41) [IND] Artest Jump Shot: Missed
(0:52) [MIA 89-81] Wade Free Throw 2 of 2 (21 PTS)
(0:52) [MIA 88-81] Wade Free Throw 1 of 2 (20 PTS)
(0:52) [IND] Tinsley Foul: Personal (5 PF)
(0:53) [IND 81-87] Tinsley Jump Shot: Made (16 PTS) Assist: Miller (2 AST)

TMJ31
05-10-2004, 10:54 PM
At least we are refusing to go out without a damned fight!!!!!!!!

efx
05-10-2004, 10:54 PM
We could have used some more of those Reg..

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 10:55 PM
:o :o :o :o :o

REGGIE!!! BOOOOOOOM BABY!!!!

Looks to be too little, too late however...

:(

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 10:55 PM
Reggie finally gets the chance to sink the bomb! :)
(too little, too late though probably :( )

TMJ31
05-10-2004, 10:56 PM
GET THE REBOUND!!! NOOO!!!!!!

TMJ31
05-10-2004, 10:56 PM
holy crap, brian grant looks like he got shot in the face

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 10:57 PM
That was more blood coming from Grant than I've seen in some boxing matches.... :o

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 10:59 PM
lets just let Odom Get a OFFENSIVE BOARD shall we !!

...on his own missed free throw nonetheless.

:shakehead:

TMJ31
05-10-2004, 10:59 PM
well--- after the one odom FT-- we honestly had a fighters chance at getting this thing to OT at least...

but instead they take like 8 seconds to get up an attempt, and then the LAST ditch attempt--- AJ misses a bunny.

oh well, the last minute at least was interesting (if not depressing) for us P fans

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 11:00 PM
Final Score: :mad:

:heat: 94
:pacers: 87

Play-by-Play
(0:00) End Period
(0:00) [MIA] Odom Rebound (Off:2 Def:7)
(0:00) [IND] Tinsley Jump Shot: Missed
(0:06) [MIA 94-87] Wade Free Throw 2 of 2 (25 PTS)
(0:06) [MIA 93-87] Wade Free Throw 1 of 2 (24 PTS)
(0:06) [IND] Johnson Foul: Loose Ball (3 PF)
(0:06) [MIA] Wade Rebound (Off:1 Def:4)
(0:07) [IND] Johnson Layup Shot: Missed
(0:08) [IND] Johnson Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(0:10) [IND] Bender Jump Shot: Missed
(0:19) [MIA] Team Rebound
(0:19) [MIA 92-87] Odom Free Throw 2 of 2 (16 PTS)
(0:19) [MIA] Odom Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(0:19) [MIA] Grant Substitution replaced by Allen
(0:19) [IND] Johnson Foul: Personal (2 PF)


Miami's home court winning streak continues...

zxc
05-10-2004, 11:01 PM
:cry:

Tough loss.. guess it had to happen sometime though with the way we have been playing so far.

waterjater
05-10-2004, 11:04 PM
I've been ragging on O'neal, but Artest was worse tonight!! Stupid fouls and many poor shots.

I remember one time the shot clock running down, Reggie is WIDE OPEN for a 3 to take the lead for the first time since the 1st Qtr and he drives the lane for a BAD SHOT!!

KICK IT TO THE GUNSLINGER, ASSASSIN!!

Damn, this was a winnable game with a little frigging effort!!!!!!!

Water

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 11:05 PM
I just hope that if the Pacers have one horrible playoff game this postseason, that this was it. Because if the Pacers play like that next round (should they get there of course), they'll get blown out by 30. There's absolutely no way they can compete with the Nets/Pistons playing like this.

What really scares me is J.O. is getting shut down by Miami's frontline. How is he gonna fare against Wallace & Wallace? Martin & Collins?

J.O.'s 29 points were mainly spoon-fed to him by Tinsley for easy shots and his 11 made FT's. At least that's what I saw tonight. He scored using his post-up a few times tonight, but it happened rarely.

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 11:05 PM
http://scores.nba.com/games/20040510/INDMIA/boxscoreprint.html

waterjater
05-10-2004, 11:06 PM
We were out-rebounded, out-shot and out-hustled.

:mad: :mad: :confused:

Ragnar
05-10-2004, 11:08 PM
I just hope that if the Pacers have one horrible playoff game this postseason, that this was it. Because if the Pacers play like that next round (should they get there of course), they'll get blown out by 30. There's absolutely no way they can compete with the Nets/Pistons playing like this.

What really scares me is J.O. is getting shut down by Miami's frontline. How is he gonna fare against Wallace & Wallace? Martin & Collins?

I am not entirely sure you can call 29 points being shut down. He missed a ton of free throws tonight and still scored 29. 42% is not great but he was getting fouled a lot and that affects your shooting %.

BostonConnection
05-10-2004, 11:10 PM
This stat is the most annoying one to me in this game

Pacers' FTM-A: 22-34, 64.7% :mad:

Aw Heck
05-10-2004, 11:13 PM
I am not entirely sure you can call 29 points being shut down. He missed a ton of free throws tonight and still scored 29. 42% is not great but he was getting fouled a lot and that affects your shooting %.

What I mean by shut down was that he was rarely scoring on his own, like in post-up situations. Most of his points were created for him by Tinsley mainly and other teammates (e.g. fast breaks, good passes to him for easy dunks and drawing fouls.) At least that's what I saw. I looked away from the TV every once in a while but from what I saw he rarely scored unless it was spoon-fed to him.

waterjater
05-10-2004, 11:45 PM
Yes, it seemed like JO wasn't playing well. He seemed to miss every big shot when we needed one.

I felt we force fed O'neal and Artest too much tonight.

As bad as we played, we make free throws and this game would've been ours.

Water