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PacersFan83
11-11-2006, 02:28 AM
Like I've said since day one when roughly 80% of this board doubted me, Al Harrington is a far superior player than he was in July 2004. His offensive game is on a whole new level. He's got one of the best midrange games in the entire league and he might be the quickest 6'9" 250 pounder I've ever seen. His rebounding has even looked pretty nice. He left Baby Al and he's returned Big Al. Are there really any doubts that this guys a future All-Star? Probably this year. I think he's better than the overrated Ron "40/30/65" Artest right now.

Kstat
11-11-2006, 02:30 AM
Right.

If all-star voting ended one week into the season, he would be an all-star.

Don't get me wrong, I hope he touches the ball every posession for the rest of the season, I just don't see him getting in among all the other big names.

He's had one heck of a week, though. I hope he keeps it up.

ajbry
11-11-2006, 02:31 AM
Why do you feel it is your sole responsibility to attach yourself to some novel opinion on every one of our players? At least this one is reasonable unlike all of your other threads, however.

Kstat
11-11-2006, 02:32 AM
It's how he operates. He did it last year too. Full of sound and fury, and all that.

Just be thankful we haven't had any phony trade reports......yet.

PacersFan83
11-11-2006, 02:37 AM
As long as the Pacers keep winning, the coaches will give them and their players proper respect come February. There are plenty of forward spots available, and Al's ability to play either the 3 or the 4 will only help his chances. Pierce and LeBron are both listed as guards I do believe. That will also help Al's chances. So who's his competition? Antawn Jamison? Richard Jefferson? Please.

I remember I started a "Tayshaun Prince vs Al Harrington" poll over on IndyStar about 5 or so months ago. Believe it or not Tayshaun Prince actually got about 70% of the votes. Thats what happens when people go strictly by reputation and dont actually watch the games. Al is a star in the making, Tayshaun's a role player.

PacersFan83
11-11-2006, 02:39 AM
Why do you feel it is your sole responsibility to attach yourself to some novel opinion on every one of our players? At least this one is reasonable unlike all of your other threads, however.

Why's it your sole responsibility to follow me around and harass me with your trolling BS? And why are the mods here allowing it?

Trader Joe
11-11-2006, 02:42 AM
As long as the Pacers keep winning, the coaches will give them and their players proper respect come February. There are plenty of forward spots available, and Al's ability to play either the 3 or the 4 will only help his chances. Pierce and LeBron are both listed as guards I do believe. That will also help Al's chances. So who's his competition? Antawn Jamison? Richard Jefferson? Please.


Pierce and Lebron are both forwards or at least were last year. I like Al as an "All-Star" talent maybe, but his chances for the game are slim I think. JO, Bosh, Dwight Howard, Lebron, Pierce would all win the popularity contest against Al. Then there would be 3 or 4 forward spots on the bench at the most? I just think Al gets squeezed by the numbers.

Trader Joe
11-11-2006, 02:42 AM
Why's it your sole responsibility to follow me around and harass me with your trolling BS? And why are the mods here allowing it?

The irony...

Kstat
11-11-2006, 02:44 AM
Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh, Paul Pierce, Richard Jefferson, Tayshaun Prince, Jermaine O'Neal, Caron Butler....

Yep. He has no competition at all.

and that's only assuming Okafor gets listed as a center.

We won't know where they're listing anybody until monday.

PacersFan83
11-11-2006, 02:45 AM
Pierce and Lebron are both forwards or at least were last year. I like Al as an "All-Star" talent maybe, but his chances for the game are slim I think. JO, Bosh, Dwight Howard, Lebron, Pierce would all win the popularity contest against Al. Then there would be 3 or 4 forward spots on the bench at the most? I just think Al gets squeezed by the numbers.

Lebron was voted in as a guard last season, and PP is listed as a guard off the bench. Also, Grant Hill was voted in as a starter at forward. Hopefully that doesn't happen again, which will free up another forward spot. Antawn Jamison also made it last year. I could easily see Al taking his spot.

PacersFan83
11-11-2006, 02:52 AM
Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh, Paul Pierce, Tayshaun Prince, Jermaine O'Neal, Caron Butler....

Yep. He has no competition at all.

and that's only assuming Okafor gets listed as a center.

We won't know where they're listing anybody until monday.

Tayshaun Prince? Caron Butler? :laugh:

Neither of those two are worthy of lacing Al Harrington's Nikes.

Starters: Shaq - Bosh - Carter - LeBron - A.I.

Bench: JO, Howard, AL, Pierce, Wade, Arenas, Billups

JO will get put in as a center, which should mean both Ben Wallace and Zydrunas Ilgauskas are D-O-N-E. Hallelujah!

Kstat
11-11-2006, 02:53 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/all-star-ballot.shtml


Lebron was voted in as a guard last season

Wrong. He's listed on the ballot as a forward.


and PP is listed as a guard off the bench.

Wrong again. He was a forward on the ballot.


Also, Grant Hill was voted in as a starter at forward.

Wrong again. That was two years ago.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2005/06/08/1118252405_0275.jpg

Trader Joe
11-11-2006, 02:54 AM
Lebron was voted in as a guard last season, and PP is listed as a guard off the bench. Also, Grant Hill was voted in as a starter at forward. Hopefully that doesn't happen again, which will free up another forward spot. Antawn Jamison also made it last year. I could easily see Al taking his spot.

Not right now. Antawn Jamison has been fantastic so far this season for the Wiz. Hes been good for close to 24 and 8 every night.

Lets take a look at last years all-star team.

Lebron was voted in as a forward. PERIOD. Not a guard. The backcourt was Wade and AI. Highly doubt one of those guys was a forward. JO was voted in as the other starter last year not Hill. So frankly you aren't exactly batting 1.00 in this post.

Now lets look at the reserves, Chris Bosh and Paul Pierce were the two forward reserves. Pierce is not listed as a SG hasn't been for a couple years.

Thanks for proving my point.

Trader Joe
11-11-2006, 02:55 AM
Tayshaun Prince? Caron Butler? :laugh:

Neither of those two are worthy of lacing Al Harrington's Nikes.

Starters: Shaq - Bosh - Carter - LeBron - A.I.

Bench: JO, Howard, AL, Pierce, Wade, Arenas, Billups

JO will get put in as a center, which should mean both Ben Wallace and Zydrunas Ilgauskas are D-O-N-E. Hallelujah!

LMAO at Lebron being a SG and Carter being a SF. That got a BIG chuckle out of me. Seriously do you ever not talk out of your ***?

Kstat
11-11-2006, 02:59 AM
Tayshaun Prince? Caron Butler?

Butler had 14 points, 10 boards and 3 steals tonight.

Prince had 31 points and 7 boards tonight.

Just thought I'd let you know, since you love to ride every 1-game trend in an 82-game season...


JO will get put in as a center

Of course. He'll get put in as a center...because you say so. I get it now.

PacersFan83
11-11-2006, 02:59 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/all-star-ballot.shtml



Wrong. He's listed on the ballot as a forward.



Wrong. He was a forward on the ballot.



Wrong again. That was two years ago.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2005/06/08/1118252405_0275.jpg

I was actually looking at the 2005 All-Star lineup. Just a slight slip up on my part. Of course the fact that Im right about things like the Miami heat winning the world championship when no one was picking them, Al Harrington being an amazing talent when everyone assumed he was 6th man working as a stat padder in Atlanta etc.


Rip, Sheed, and Ben are all three OUT. With that happening and with JO playing center, that frees up 2 forward slots. There will be other small changes of course. The 3 big men off the bench for the East will JO, Howard, and Al. JO would of course start if he were still playing PF, but now those pesky Canadians will not only get Bosh in, but they'll vote him in as a starter.

Trader Joe
11-11-2006, 03:02 AM
I was actually looking at the 2005 All-Star lineup. Just a slight slip up on my part. Of course the fact that Im right about things like the Miami heat winning the world championship when no one was picking them, Al Harrington being an amazing talent when everyone assumed he was 6th man working as a stat padder in Atlanta etc.


Rip, Sheed, and Ben are all three OUT. With that happening and with JO playing center, that frees up 2 forward slots. There will be other small changes of course. The 3 big men off the bench for the East will JO, Howard, and Al. JO would of course start if he were still playing PF, but now those pesky Canadians will not only get Bosh in, but they'll vote him in as a starter.

Hahahaha wow pat yourself on the back some more.

As far as this JO being listed as a center thing, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. JO doesn't even get announced as the center at Pacers home games, Al does and on top of that, FSI recognizes them both as forwards. Which is something I think the NBA and the ballot will follow.

Kstat
11-11-2006, 03:05 AM
Rip, Sheed, and Ben are all three OUT.

Really? You've banned them from making the all-star team? Why wasn't I told?


JO would of course start if he were still playing PF, but now those pesky Canadians will not only get Bosh in, but they'll vote him in as a starter.

:rolleyes: Of course, it's not like Bosh would actually DESERVE to start there....

PacersFan83
11-11-2006, 03:06 AM
Butler had 14, 10 boards and 3 steals tonight.
14 points? Geez...I bet if Wilt were still alive he'd be shaking in his boots at the thought of Caron Butler breaking his single game scoring record.


Prince had 31 and 7 boards tonight.
7 rebounds? That has to be a career high for Tayshaun. :laugh:
And all Tayshaun's 31 points mean is he'll get 11 over the next two games. He's got a 14 ppg reputation to live up to you know.



Just thought I'd let you know, since you love to ride every 1-game trend in an 82-game season...

Are you implying Al's a 1-game trend? Hardly. He's the real deal. From what I've seen, I'd make him #1 option and move JO down to #2, which will allow him to focus more on rebounding and defense.


Of course. He'll get put in as a center...because you say so. I get it now.
He'll get put in as a center because he's *GASP!* playing center this year. What a strange world we live in, huh?

Trader Joe
11-11-2006, 03:08 AM
Really? You've banned them from making the all-star team? Why wasn't I told?



:rolleyes: Of course, it's not like Bosh would actually DESERVE to start there....

Psssh, of course, he wouldn't it'd be the canadians. I mean what PF averaging 23 ppg and 13 rpg so far would deserve to start in the all-star game?

Trader Joe
11-11-2006, 03:11 AM
He'll get put in as a center because he's *GASP!* playing center this year. What a strange world we live in, huh?

No he's not. I have not heard JO announced as a center by one person so far. He jumps the tip thats about it. He spends most of his time in the high post.

Are you sure you are a Pacers fan because I have not heard one person come out and say JO is playing center and especially when they are announcing Al at center during the home games that would send a pretty strong message.

Oh wait no, Reb must be wrong and you must be right.

PacersFan83
11-11-2006, 03:12 AM
Really? You've banned them from making the all-star team? Why wasn't I told?

The sickening amount of Pistons in last years All-Star team was just a product of overzealous coaches putting them in because last years Pistons team was "the best team EVER!!!1!"

There's no way Sheed ever sniffs another All-Star game in his career. Ben Wallace is about as done as done gets. His contract is now officially the worst in the league by a country mile. And Rip just isn't good enough to make it in over the other guards in the East.


:rolleyes: Of course, it's not like Bosh would actually DESERVE to start there....

When he (A) plays a lick of defense and (B) actually wins more than 15-25 games, probably. Until then? No.

Kstat
11-11-2006, 03:12 AM
14 points? Geez...I bet if Wilt were still alive he'd be shaking in his boots at the thought of Caron Butler breaking his single game scoring record.

Caron has been the glue of the wizards in every game this year by playing defense....not that you'd know anything about something you don't read in the box score.





7 rebounds? That has to be a career high for Tayshaun. :laugh:
And all Tayshaun's 31 points mean is he'll get 11 over the next two games. He's got a 14 ppg reputation to live up to you know.


......and al harrington has a 12ppg average to live up to :laugh:

Do you just make stuff up as you go along or something?





Are you implying Al's a 1-game trend? Hardly. He's the real deal.

Your're right. He's been on fire for a whole WEEK.


From what I've seen, I'd make him #1 option and move JO down to #2, which will allow him to focus more on rebounding and defense.

I'd do that too.

Then again, I don't really care about the pacers winning games as much as I want to see Al produce points...



He'll get put in as a center because he's *GASP!* playing center this year. What a strange world we live in, huh?

....and what world is that, because you seem to be living in a different one than the rest of us.

Most box scores have AL HARRINGTON listed as the center.


There's no way Sheed ever sniffs another All-Star game in his career. Ben Wallace is about as done as done gets. His contract is now officially the worst in the league by a country mile. And Rip just isn't good enough to make it in over the other guards in the East.

.....one week into the season :lmao:


When he (A) plays a lick of defense and (B) actually wins more than 15-25 games, probably. Until then? No.

So how many games has Al won this year?

Trader Joe
11-11-2006, 03:15 AM
I don't think I have ever seen one person get more dominated in a thread before. :lmao:

And to think it didn't have to be this way if he didn't proclaim Al the best thing since sliced bread...
I hope Al does make the all star game. However to call it likely is silly at best...


And to think we have that unstoppable David Harrison waiting in the wings, we are set for a DECADE.

Kstat
11-11-2006, 03:21 AM
And to think we have that unstoppable David Harrison waiting in the wings, we are set for a DECADE.

David Harrison is the best center in the world. Wilt Chamberlain, Ben Wallace, Andrew Bynam and Greg Oden are DONE.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to watch the replay of the Lakers exposing the Pistons tonight.

PacersFan83
11-11-2006, 03:39 AM
Caron has been the glue of the wizards in every game this year by playing defense....not that you'd know anything about something you don't read in the box score.
Cool. He's been the "glue" of a middle of the pack team. Let's put him in the All-Star game. :laugh:



......and al harrington has a 12ppg average to live up to :laugh:
It's not like Al came out of high school and went to one of the leagues best teams and got limited minutes his first 3 seasons or anything.

Stat of the Day: Big Al's scoring has went up 7 out of the 8 seasons he's been in the league. And judging by what we've seen so far, he's about to make it 8/9. Compare that to Tayshaun Prince who's scoring average went down last season and is down again this year, all from a peak of a mighty 14.7 (in 37.1 mpg :lol:) two seasons ago.

Not to mention Tayshaun is the worst rebounding forward in the league and has been exposed as an average defender without Ben Wallace there to work cleanup.



Your're right. He's been on fire for a whole WEEK.
If by a whole week you mean the past 2+ years, than I'll agree with you.



Most box scores have AL HARRINGTON listed as the center.
Players listed positioning on All-Star ballots is always questionable. Everyone knows JO is Indy's center, regardless of what the box scores say, and with the East being weak in centers, I'm 97% sure JO will be listed as one. Almost as sure as I was of Miami beating Detroit's *** in the ECF last year. :laugh:



So how many games has Al won this year?

On pace for 55. Currently the second best record in the East. Imagine how good Indy will be once the team gets sufficient playing time together?

Kstat
11-11-2006, 03:56 AM
Not to mention Tayshaun is the worst rebounding forward in the league

I wasn't aware a 6 rebound average qualifies a SF as terrible, but ok....


and has been exposed as an average defender without Ben Wallace there to work cleanup.

....where Prince has been absolutely LIT UP by opposing small forwards to the tune of 12ppg this year on around %40 shooting.

Anything else you'd like to throw out there?

able
11-11-2006, 04:24 AM
Besides this being a p*****g contest I see nothing good coming from it, time to move on.