View Full Version : Who's the best player not in the HOF but eligible?

Slick Pinkham
11-09-2006, 02:52 PM
perhaps a guy who has...

scored over 24,000 points
grabbed over 16,000 rebounds
averaged 22 and 15 his first 8 years of pro basketball
5 ABA all star appearances (every season he was in that league)
6 NBA all star appearances
#1 all time in NBA history in FG% at .599
an ABA championship
Final four and 1st team all-American in college

Artis Gilmore

link: http://www.hoopshype.com/articles/gilmore_friedman.htm

- NCAA rebounding champion in 1970 and 1971
- All-time NCAA Division I career rebounding average leader (22.7 rpg)
- One of five NCAA Division I players with career averages of 20+ ppg and 20+ rpg
- 1972 ABA MVP and Rookie of the Year
- ABA regular season single game record 40 rebounds versus New York, 2/3/74
- Four-time ABA rebounding champion (1972-74, 76)
- Two-time ABA field goal percentage champion (1972-73)
- Two-time ABA shot blocking champion (1972-73)
- 1974 ABA All-Star Game MVP
- 1975 ABA Playoff MVP
- Five-time All-ABA 1st Team selection (1972-76)
- Four-time ABA All-Defensive Team selection (1973-76)
- Appeared in 670 consecutive ABA/NBA games
- 11 All-Star selections in 17 ABA/NBA seasons
- Ranked in the top ten in rebounding in 12 of 17 ABA/NBA seasons
- Ranked in the top ten in blocked shots in 13 of 17 ABA/NBA seasons
- Ranked in the top ten in field goal percentage in 15 of 17 ABA/NBA seasons
- Four-time NBA field goal percentage champion (1981-84)
- One of seven unanimous selections to the 1997 ABA All-Time Team
- Ranks first in career ABA/NBA regular season field goal percentage (.582); also holds the NBA (.599) and ABA (.558) career records
- Ranks third in career ABA/NBA regular season blocked shots (3178)
- Ranks fifth in career ABA/NBA regular season rebounds (16,330)
- Ranks 18th in career ABA/NBA regular season points (24,491)

others to consider: Dantley, Bernard King

11-09-2006, 03:19 PM
King's career length will hurt him, but man he had some truly elite seasons. Reminds me of the Mattingly for MLB HOF debate. At some point I think you have to take 5-6 MVP level years over 19 good, but not really special years, and much more so if the player's career went short due to injury.

Gilmore was a very strong player and I'm pretty surprised he hasn't gotten in.

11-09-2006, 05:03 PM
I really don't know anything about Artis Gilmore other than the name. But based on those stats I can't believe he's not in. Basketball HOF lets everybody in!

11-09-2006, 05:33 PM
Dantley should get in just based on numbers - just because he played in Utah shouldn't be held against him.

Gilmore should be in too - it's the Basketball HOF - not NBA HOF. There's still an anti-ABA bias. Even so, Issel made it and if he did, Gilmore should too.

King was a monster when he was healthy - is that good enough? I'm biased because of what he did with the Knicks so I'll stay away from that but he only made 3 all-star games and 2 all-NBA teams.