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BostonConnection
11-03-2006, 06:22 PM
:fly:THIS IS A:fly:
:fly:NO PEST ZONE!!!:fly:


http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/IND.gif -VS-http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/NO.gif
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Game Time Start: 7:00 pm EST

TV: FSN-Indiana

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=450><TBODY><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=6>Projected Pacers' Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jermaine_oneal.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/al_harrington.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/danny_granger.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/stephen_jackson.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jamaal_tinsley.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>O'Neal</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Harrington</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Granger</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Jackson</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Tinsley</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TH bgColor=teal colSpan=6>Projected Hornets Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/tyson_chandler.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/david_west.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/desmond_mason.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/peja_stojakovic.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/chris_paul.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Chandler</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>West</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Mason</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Stojakovic</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Paul</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Season Records: (W-L)
:thepacers 1-0
:hornets: 1-0

Pacer Trivia Q.O.D.:
Q: Which current Pacer was once named Sun Belt Conference Defensive Player of the Year?
A: Oriene Green (for 2004-05 season) (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/orien_greene/bio.html)
:oriengreene:

Hicks
11-03-2006, 06:45 PM
Nice use of the spoiler code!

PacersFan83
11-03-2006, 06:50 PM
I voted for Jarret Jack just to be a smartass. It's not like Chris Paul's not gonna run away with the poll.

Lord Helmet
11-03-2006, 07:26 PM
I'm ready for tonight!

Let's go Pacers!

pwee31
11-03-2006, 07:33 PM
ditto.. let's go 2-0!

Lord Helmet
11-03-2006, 08:01 PM
Looks like we have Violet Palmer, thanks NBA.

The stupidest ref in the league right there......

:unimpress

ABADays
11-03-2006, 08:04 PM
Oh - oh - doesn't sound like WORX from the game live is working - total silence.

Lord Helmet
11-03-2006, 08:08 PM
I like how we're seeing the pregame intros on TV now.

That's something I'd like for them to not stop doing.

Hicks
11-03-2006, 08:09 PM
Dude! They lowered Boomer down from the ceiling! That hasn't happened in a loooooong time!

Hicks
11-03-2006, 08:10 PM
NO. WAY.

I SUGGESTED THEY USE THIS SONG TO INTRODUCE THE PACERS TWO YEARS AGO TO RABIDPACERSFAN!!!

Fuel - Won't Back Down (Bring You Hell Remix).

Lord Helmet
11-03-2006, 08:13 PM
NO. WAY.

I SUGGESTED THEY USE THIS SONG TO INTRODUCE THE PACERS TWO YEARS AGO TO RABIDPACERSFAN!!!

Fuel - Won't Back Down (Bring You Hell Remix).
Hmmmmm......:devil:

Hicks
11-03-2006, 08:14 PM
Sorry, that was really fanboy-ish of me. :blush:

pwee31
11-03-2006, 08:14 PM
Those intros got me pumped up!!

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 08:15 PM
Al Harrington can't be "happy" playing center.

Lord Helmet
11-03-2006, 08:16 PM
Sorry, that was really fanboy-ish of me. :blush:
What? Getting all excited? :laugh:

ABADays
11-03-2006, 08:22 PM
Damnit - I can't find the game online anywhere!

Pitons
11-03-2006, 08:23 PM
Guys, turn on WIBC 1070 AM - http://www.thegamelive.com/basketballnba.html#ind

Pitons
11-03-2006, 08:33 PM
We have to rebound better.

ABADays
11-03-2006, 08:33 PM
Finally! NBA Audio League Pass accepted my credit card. Does anyone know if they archive the games?

pwee31
11-03-2006, 08:35 PM
Armstrong before Runi, but runi's checking in

ABADays
11-03-2006, 08:36 PM
Guys, turn on WIBC 1070 AM - http://www.thegamelive.com/basketballnba.html#ind

It's already posted on their website they can't stream the games. I listened to it on WORX the other night but it's silent tonight.

Pitons
11-03-2006, 08:39 PM
It's already posted on their website they can't stream the games. I listened to it on WORX the other night but it's silent tonight.

Dunno about that, but i'm listening the game now on WIBC.

Lord Helmet
11-03-2006, 08:40 PM
Great call, Violet. :unimpress

Cubs231721
11-03-2006, 08:41 PM
It's already posted on their website they can't stream the games. I listened to it on WORX the other night but it's silent tonight.

If I were you, I'd take the person's advice and try anyway-I'm just saying.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 08:42 PM
What do ya know, another weak 1st quarter from the Pacers.

Twes
11-03-2006, 08:44 PM
:fly:THIS IS A:fly:


:fly:NO PEST ZONE!!!:fly:


http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/IND.gif -VS-http://images.sportsline.com/images/nba/logos/NO.gif

<HR>

Game Time Start: 7:00 pm EST

TV: FSN-Indiana

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=450><TBODY><TR><TH bgColor=#003366 colSpan=6>Projected Pacers' Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jermaine_oneal.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/al_harrington.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/danny_granger.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/stephen_jackson.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jamaal_tinsley.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>O'Neal</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Harrington</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Granger</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Jackson</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Tinsley</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TH bgColor=teal colSpan=6>Projected Hornets Starting Lineup:</TH><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>C</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SF</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>SG</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>PG</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/tyson_chandler.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/david_west.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/desmond_mason.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/peja_stojakovic.jpg</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/chris_paul.jpg</CENTER></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Chandler</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>West</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Mason</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Stojakovic</CENTER></TD><TD align=middle width=90><CENTER>Paul</CENTER></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Season Records: (W-L)
:thepacers 1-0
:hornets: 1-0

Pacer Trivia Q.O.D.:
Q: Which current Pacer was once named Sun Belt Conference Defensive Player of the Year?
A: Oriene Green (for 2004-05 season) (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/orien_greene/bio.html)
:oriengreene:


Bzzzzzzzzzzz bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Uh ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yo buddy.

:cool:

Lord Helmet
11-03-2006, 08:46 PM
Wow. I guess they don't call over the back fouls anymore...

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 08:47 PM
Can this team make shots? Geeez.

Giving up too many offensive boards too. This crowd doesn't sound all too happy. :D

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 08:47 PM
And why do we have to get stuck with Violet freaking Palmer? She is HORRIBLE as a ref.

How is that traveling?

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 08:50 PM
Trigger Happy Saras

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 08:51 PM
That's good, he needs to keep shooting.

Pitons
11-03-2006, 08:51 PM
Will Harrington play today?

pacerpride
11-03-2006, 08:52 PM
Oldest guy on the team is our best perimeter defender by far.

Pitons
11-03-2006, 08:53 PM
And where's Granger too?

Pitons
11-03-2006, 08:54 PM
Awful shooting

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 08:56 PM
And where's Granger too?

Granger and Harrington started the game. Al is back in.

And yes, these guys can't shoot to save their lives.

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 08:59 PM
The Hornets (almost called them Charlotte heh) have done a great job of getting Tinsley in defensive mismatches so far. Pacers aren't playing very good team defense.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 08:59 PM
We are sucking more than (insert bad actress).

Al is getting owned by David WEst.

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:00 PM
Is it just me or is the Danny al-Jermaine thing not working so far. Just so far. It might be too early to tell but so far.

Jermaniac
11-03-2006, 09:00 PM
Come on Pacers

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 09:03 PM
Is it just me or is the Danny al-Jermaine thing not working so far. Just so far. It might be too early to tell but so far.

It hasn't looked good at all but like you said, it is early. It's gonna take a few more games to give these guys a chance to gell. In theory, it sounds like an extremely talented lineup that should create some positive results but I don't consider myself a great basketball mind either so maybe somebody with better analysis can break it down. ;)

pacerpride
11-03-2006, 09:04 PM
This team looks like they just got back from a 5 game west coast trip.

croz24
11-03-2006, 09:06 PM
pacers d is PATHETIC! thankfully the hornets are missing most of their wide open shots.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:07 PM
Do the Pacers practice defense?

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 09:07 PM
2:45 left

shooting 34% with 34 points

:(

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:09 PM
Is it just me or is the Danny al-Jermaine thing not working so far. Just so far. It might be too early to tell but so far.

I thought that would be a great defensive frontcourt trio, I was wrong. I think their coach makes substitutions way too early.

ABADays
11-03-2006, 09:10 PM
So what exactly is up with Granger? Is he turning into Derrick McKey?

pacerpride
11-03-2006, 09:12 PM
Hard foul by Foster, almost got West to go Artest.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 09:14 PM
This is ******ing embarassing.

I'm going to drop Granger right now.

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:16 PM
I thought that would be a great defensive frontcourt trio, I was wrong. I think their coach makes substitutions way too early.
Considering that Okafor and now West have dominated us...I'm worried. And Granger is not really being very aggressive.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:20 PM
This is a really weak defensive team, they give up way too many points. Curse you for leaving us, Mike Brown. :pissed:

ABADays
11-03-2006, 09:21 PM
Danny Granger has shot the ball TWO TIMES! TWO!

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 09:21 PM
So where is this exciting, uptempo, high octane offense they keep talking about?

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:24 PM
I think that :rawlemarshall: should start and let :stephenjackson: come off the bench.

speakout4
11-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Al is lost. I hope he has some ID on him.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:27 PM
Al is lost. I hope he has some ID on him.

He's playing out of his natural position.

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:28 PM
I think that :rawlemarshall: should start and let :stephenjackson: come off the bench.
Um...is it just me or is Jack the second most consistent scorer on our team?

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 09:31 PM
It's definitely going to take 20 games to fully evaluate what we have this season. Fairly obvious these guys don't have a good feel for each other right now. You just have to hope that whatever Carlisle is preaching is a sound plan and that the players are buying in.

Frustrating game to watch, maybe that 2nd half magic kicks in for the second straight game. Hard to believe the Pacers have yet to hold a lead AT ALL in the 1st half of the first two games.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:31 PM
Um...is it just me or is Jack the second most consistent scorer on our team?

It owuld be welcome coming from the 2nd unit, Jermaine and Al need more touches. :rawlemarshall: is a better defender than :stephenjackson:.

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 09:31 PM
Um...is it just me or is Jack the second most consistent scorer on our team?

It's not just you. :D

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:32 PM
So anybody else notice that Violet Palmer is reffing this game?

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:32 PM
Rasheed Wallace is pms'ing again tonight. :laugh:

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:33 PM
It owuld be welcome coming from the 2nd unit, Jermaine and Al need more touches. :rawlemarshall: is a better defender than :stephenjackson:.
You're kidding yourself. Jack is our best defender. Though I haven't seen Granger yet this season so I could be wrong. Also Greene and DA sound promising.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:36 PM
:rawlemarshall: is a better shotblocker! He's more athletic and he's not afraid to attack the basket and draw some fouls. All :stephenjackson: does is jack up jumpers. If :carlisle: would give :rawlemarshall: half a chance :rawlemarshall: could make some noise.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 09:36 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Al scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ABADays
11-03-2006, 09:36 PM
Harrington has two free throws! Good God.

Jermaniac
11-03-2006, 09:36 PM
THATS HOW YOU PLAY PACERS

spazzxb
11-03-2006, 09:37 PM
:rawlemarshall: is a better shotblocker! He's more athletic and he's not afraid to attack the basket and draw some fouls. All :stephenjackson: does is jack up jumpers. you're not even watching the game, are you?

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:38 PM
It's all about Al becoming a factor.

ABADays
11-03-2006, 09:38 PM
No knock on Tinsley but we will rarely win a game when he is the leading scorer.

ajbry
11-03-2006, 09:39 PM
:laugh: at everything Murfdrag (whom I've never even seen here before) has posted in this thread.

dubyacop
11-03-2006, 09:39 PM
that was a hell of a follow by JO

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:39 PM
you're not even watching the game, are you?

You didn't watch the preseason did you?

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 09:40 PM
No knock on Tinsley but we will rarely win a game when he is the leading scorer.

That was pretty random considering he's not the leading scorer.

ajbry
11-03-2006, 09:41 PM
You didn't watch the preseason did you?

Are you serious? Judging Rawle Marshall in comparison to Jack on the basis of one preseason is simply ludicrous.

You gotta come a lot harder than that - relevant information would be a good start.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:41 PM
Chandler with NBA TV's number 1 highlight.

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 09:42 PM
Well that run was short lived. :(

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:42 PM
Are you serious? Judging Rawle Marshall in comparison to Jack on the basis of one preseason is simply ludicrous.

You gotta come a lot harder than that - relevant information would be a good start.

What's irrelevant? I only present the facts.

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:43 PM
DA...damn...

ajbry
11-03-2006, 09:43 PM
What's irrelevant? I only present the facts.

Where are they? I see no facts. Comparing Rawle to Jack serves no legitimacy for your argument if you did choose to present any facts. Jack would simply obliterate him in every single category.

Rawle is a decent 2nd year player from the 2nd round, that's it. Don't get carried away now.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:44 PM
ATTENTION JERMAINE ONEAL David West can shoot, guard him please

ABADays
11-03-2006, 09:44 PM
That was pretty random considering he's not the leading scorer.

Yeah my bad - I saw JO had 12 at the time.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 09:44 PM
Lol at small kine trolling.

I really love how DA came here to play, not just be a leader. He's setting the example.

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:45 PM
Wow...DA is such an energizer bunny!

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 09:46 PM
Where are they? I see no facts. Comparing Rawle to Jack serves no legitimacy for your argument if you did choose to present any facts. Jack would simply obliterate him in every single category.

Rawle is a decent 2nd year player from the 2nd round, that's it. Don't get carried away now.
How would you know? You probably never even saw him play. You're just obsessed with Jackson so there's really no point in arguing with you. :)

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 09:48 PM
Violet Palmer is a &%&&#&@@!!!!!

That is all.

ajbry
11-03-2006, 09:48 PM
Here are some facts:

Jack has averaged 16+ PPG for 3 consecutive seasons. He has won a championship.

Your turn, only with Rawle.

You can't expect to interject Jack in a troll-like comment, especially considering I have no idea who you are, and get off with nothing in rebuttal.

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 09:48 PM
How would you know? You probably never even saw him play. You're just obsessed with Jackson so there's really no point in arguing with you. :)

I've never found the NBA preseason to be a good basis for making an argument. *shrugs*

ajbry
11-03-2006, 09:49 PM
Good to see JO playing well again, but how many boards does he have?

Pitons
11-03-2006, 09:49 PM
Pacers are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:50 PM
So...DA...what's going on?

Also, JO and Jack prove why they are the two most consistent Pacers. I have come to expect 20 from JO and 15 from Jack. It's a good feeling. Now if only Al, Danny, Marquis, and the defense could show up too.

Jermaniac
11-03-2006, 09:50 PM
Danny finally hit a damn jumper. PARTY

POPS is great, man we totaly raped Dallas in that trade.

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 09:51 PM
Pacers are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Amazing what knocking down a few shots will do for you. :D

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 09:52 PM
Good to see JO playing well again, but how many boards does he have?

6 right now

Jermaniac
11-03-2006, 09:52 PM
Good to see JO playing well again, but how many boards does he have?6

ajbry
11-03-2006, 09:52 PM
Anyone else get the feeling Al isn't exactly going to be our 2nd option this year?

ABADays
11-03-2006, 09:52 PM
DA embodies professionalism. He was never going to allow that he was just a guy we traded Johnson for. I love this guy!

ABADays
11-03-2006, 09:53 PM
The ABA players were honored before the game!!!!!! Awesome! Sorry just heard Freddie Lewis on the radio broadcast.

Pitons
11-03-2006, 09:55 PM
DA is a GOD

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:55 PM
Slick: "These fans love Armstrong."

They're not alone.

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:55 PM
Would you guys say the common fan is back into the Pacers?

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 09:55 PM
Anyone else get the feeling Al isn't exactly going to be our 2nd option this year?

Not really, though I am concerned about this slow start on the offensive end.

Let's finish this game off like we did yesterday; outscoring them by 11 this quarter.

pacerpride
11-03-2006, 09:56 PM
Notice how our defense picks up with DA in there. I wish he was 5 years younger so he could play 30 minutes/game.

Ozpacer
11-03-2006, 09:56 PM
32-19 qtr so far

rexnom
11-03-2006, 09:57 PM
Anyone else get the feeling Al isn't exactly going to be our 2nd option this year?
Give him some time. I think Jack will probably average more points but it helps Jack immensely that we have huge threats down low.

ABADays
11-03-2006, 09:57 PM
Would you guys say the common fan is back into the Pacers?

I do believe Armstrong will be a big fan favorite. He plays the right way.

Jermaniac
11-03-2006, 09:57 PM
JUST LIKE THE BOBCATS GAME. Just like, we went down in the first half, we had a strong 3rd qtr and now we take over in the 4th.

GO PACERS

Big Smooth
11-03-2006, 09:59 PM
Some good energy and effort in the 3rd quarter. Nice passing. Armstrong really does seem to make a huge difference. But he's too old to do this every night, hopefully other guards step it up.

ajbry
11-03-2006, 09:59 PM
Not really, though I am concerned about this slow start on the offensive end.

Let's finish this game off like we did yesterday; outscoring them by 11 this quarter.


Give him some time. I think Jack will probably average more points but it helps Jack immensely that we have huge threats down low.

Good point, I agree with you on that one.

pwee31
11-03-2006, 09:59 PM
Nice 3rd qtr. Hope Runi hasn't loss his confidence with his last 5 misses! =). Let's Go Pacers... take care of em in the 4th

rexnom
11-03-2006, 10:00 PM
So how many of those shots will we see in the future?

rexnom
11-03-2006, 10:01 PM
Some good energy and effort in the 3rd quarter. Nice passing. Armstrong really does seem to make a huge difference. But he's too old to do this every night, hopefully other guards step it up.
The good thing is that by the time DA tires the rest of the team will have meshed and Greene will be back.

Jermaniac
11-03-2006, 10:02 PM
Give Quise the damn ball

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 10:03 PM
Is the lineup really JT, Saras, MD, DG & JF? That's interesting.

Edit: JO's in now for jeff

ABADays
11-03-2006, 10:05 PM
Hard to believe we are winning this game with Harrington and Granger combining for 8 points.

Guess I spoke too soon.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 10:06 PM
Has JO taken a shot from inside ten feet?

ajbry
11-03-2006, 10:07 PM
I'm pretty damn displeased with the 13 combined 3's by Jack and Saras. I like to see Jack take a few a game, he should, but 7 is just too many.

Pitons
11-03-2006, 10:07 PM
10:0 Hornets run :(

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:07 PM
Please don't get Butler started

Pitons
11-03-2006, 10:09 PM
Saras worst shooter today

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:10 PM
I'm pretty damn displeased with the 13 combined 3's by Jack and Saras. I like to see Jack take a few a game, he should, but 7 is just too many. :rawlemarshall: wouldn't jack up ill advised jumpers like that.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 10:10 PM
Saras worst shooter today

Yep. 1 for 8 & 1 for 6

rexnom
11-03-2006, 10:11 PM
I'm pretty damn displeased with the 13 combined 3's by Jack and Saras. I like to see Jack take a few a game, he should, but 7 is just too many.
I agree. I love his low-post game too. He's got size on so many guards.

ABADays
11-03-2006, 10:11 PM
Saras worst shooter today

Harrington isn't far off.

Ozpacer
11-03-2006, 10:11 PM
45 Hornet rebounds to our 31. Hornets have also shot 10 more shots than the pacers. It's hard to win games with that kind of numbers.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 10:12 PM
And.....we're going to lose. ****!

Pitons
11-03-2006, 10:12 PM
0:14 WTF???????????????????? :(

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:14 PM
Jermaine can't do anything to stop Chandler.

ABADays
11-03-2006, 10:14 PM
I can hear the crowd getting upset.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:15 PM
Butler's hot, this game is over.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:15 PM
Jack with another brick

rexnom
11-03-2006, 10:16 PM
5-20 from three...wow.

dubyacop
11-03-2006, 10:17 PM
lol... finally, someone knocks Chandler to the floor

ajbry
11-03-2006, 10:17 PM
What is with tonight's fascination with the 3-pointer? It's getting ridiculous, everyone is chucking them up there.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:17 PM
Butler kills us every damn time

J_2_Da_IzzO
11-03-2006, 10:18 PM
21 three attempts is simply unnacceptable. We are not a great shooting team. Last season I couldnt stress the fact we take so many threes enough but doesnt look like its changing this year.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 10:18 PM
22-9 this quarter. Just a ****en collapse.

Pitons
11-03-2006, 10:18 PM
Lost the board - lost the game. End of sentence.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:18 PM
What is with tonight's fascination with the 3-pointer? It's getting ridiculous, everyone is chucking them up there.

Ironic, condsidering we have 2 of the most elite low post players in the league...

Jermaniac
11-03-2006, 10:18 PM
Jermaine should be the only one shooting

ABADays
11-03-2006, 10:19 PM
What is with tonight's fascination with the 3-pointer? It's getting ridiculous, everyone is chucking them up there.

I agree. I thought we were becoming a mid-range jumper team. The 3's are just taking the easy way and we are paying for it.

Murf421
11-03-2006, 10:19 PM
We better start rolling quick! Somebody actually needs to start knockin some 3s down.

pacerpride
11-03-2006, 10:19 PM
Turn out the lights, the party's over (for us).

Pitons
11-03-2006, 10:20 PM
AI - 1 from 9

rexnom
11-03-2006, 10:20 PM
Jermaine should be the only one shooting
I love how people LOVE to blame JO for choking the game away at times like this when the problem is the rest of the team not getting him the effing ball.

BlueNGold
11-03-2006, 10:20 PM
Small ball is KILLING us. Jeff and Hulk have a combined 16 minutes. The Hornets have 50 rebounds and Chandler has 15 of them...more than double any Pacer. The Pacers have only 33 boards.

Harrington is 1 for 9 shooting while struggling against bigger players. JO has a whopping 6 boards.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:20 PM
And yet another .500 season...:rolleyes:

ajbry
11-03-2006, 10:22 PM
And yet another .500 season...:rolleyes:

Do you jump to every conclusion this quickly? All you seem to do is make assumptions.

Jermaniac
11-03-2006, 10:22 PM
These fools shooting 3's and not putting the ball in JO's hand, lost us the game.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 10:23 PM
:sigh:

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:23 PM
Do you jump to every conclusion this quickly? All you seem to do is make assumptions.

Not really, I saw this last year too... 25+ three point attempts per game = .500 season.

LG33
11-03-2006, 10:25 PM
I guess we should root for the Celtics and San Antonio now...

Pitons
11-03-2006, 10:25 PM
:dead:

Lord Helmet
11-03-2006, 10:27 PM
Disappointing game.

Lack of defense. They made every damn shot.

Oh well.

I don't expect anything big. We let Peja walk in and punk us on opening night.. Oh well.

ABADays
11-03-2006, 10:27 PM
Murfdrag? Murf421? Does someone have a split personality on this thread?

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:28 PM
Rasual Butler stuck the dagger in us, just as I predicted he would.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:28 PM
Who's Murf421?

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 10:29 PM
It's a damn shame we finished the game like this.

Lord Helmet
11-03-2006, 10:30 PM
Did Harrison even touch a basketball tonight?

LG33
11-03-2006, 10:31 PM
I guess we should root for the Celtics and San Antonio now...

And Sacramento...

BlueNGold
11-03-2006, 10:32 PM
Hornets were outrebounded by the Celtics a couple days ago, then crushed us 53 to 34. It's tough to win when you get 19 less boards.

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 10:33 PM
Rasual Butler stuck the dagger in us, just as I predicted he would.

Wtf are you talking about? We lost because of poor rebounding and bad shot selection. Four points from Al and fifteen less points from Saras didn't help either. DW and TC for the Hornets killed us. Butler just shot well in the fourth. Peja really did nothing. Very disappointing regardless. :blush:

Pitons
11-03-2006, 10:34 PM
Ok turning to watch Lebron's show. He plays absolutely magnificent till moment.

Jermaniac
11-03-2006, 10:36 PM
80 games left guys, take a deep breath.

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:38 PM
Wtf are you talking about? We lost because of poor rebounding and bad shot selection. Four points from Al and fifteen less points from Saras didn't help either. DW and TC for the Hornets killed us. Butler just shot well in the fourth. Peja really did nothing. Very disappointing regardless. :blush:

I'm talking about I called it after he hit his first shot in the 4th, then he hit a couple more 3's. I saw it coming! He did it to us all the time when he played for Miami.

pwee31
11-03-2006, 10:38 PM
Ok turning to watch Lebron's show. He plays absolutely magnificent till moment.


Here I come.. CANNONBALL!:laugh:

Lord Helmet
11-03-2006, 10:43 PM
80 games left guys, take a deep breath.
I know, I know but it pisses me off we blew this ****.

2-0 down the damn drain....

Jeez. I know I shouldn't get all worked up, it's only the second game but...jeez....

Hicks
11-03-2006, 10:43 PM
It seemed like every time I looked we'd play solid defense only to have them hit shot after shot after shot.

While good in burts, we had too many dreadful stretches on offense. We have very low bball IQ players compared to the Reggie teams on offense.

Moses
11-03-2006, 10:47 PM
Moses's what lost us the game list:
Shot to many 3's
Got outrebounded like crazy
Not feeding JO when he was hot

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 10:51 PM
Moses's what lost us the game list:
Shot to many 3's
Got outrebounded like crazy
Not feeding JO when he was hot

What about Rasual Butler? You don't agree with the psychic? :rolleyes:

Murfdrag
11-03-2006, 10:53 PM
What about Rasual Butler? You don't agree with the psychic? :rolleyes:

If you would have paid attention you would have seen me call it out, look at page 4 :)

4040
11-03-2006, 11:00 PM
80 games left guys, take a deep breath.
I will, but if we didn't start off by having another dissapointing home opener I would feel much better.

My expression during the 4th:

:picard:

AesopRockOn
11-03-2006, 11:00 PM
I seriously don't care.


Some good things that happened: decent defense with seven steals and seven blocks; only twelve turnovers. JO scored well; DA played a better nineteen minutes than anyone. We were 20-24 on free throws though we should have taken at least ten more at home. Feel free to add more; obviously, there were more negatives than positives but we should try to be hopeful. I'm optimistic....we're playing New York next ;).

McKeyFan
11-03-2006, 11:02 PM
McKeyFan's list of reasons:

1. No creator's on offense who can shoot well from outside (Quis and Tins can't hit the outside shot, Saras can't create as well and, tonight, couldn't hit an outside shot.)

2. They hit a lot of outside shots against good defense. Props to them for tonight.

3. Chris Paul is the real deal.

4. Al had another rough night with the refs. I very rarely complain about officiating, but Al got defrauded on both sides of the court. (But less so on offense, where he missed a few and forced a few).

5. Saras and Harrison never got a chance to work together much.

CableKC
11-03-2006, 11:36 PM
I think that Sarunas has the same problem as SJax......when neither of them can hit the side of a barn.....they like to shoot their way out of a slump. Half the time, they figure out how to draw a foul to get to the FT Line...the other half they forget to even try to draw a foul.

At what point did Carlisle figure out that Sarunas couldn't hit the side of a barn and finally put in DA?

Also....after the 7th missed 3pt Attempt....did Carlisle tell him to stop making those shots?

BTW...WTF happened with Harrington? 4 points? That was terrible.

Why wasn't Marquis given the ball on offense? Were we pretty much watching a JONeal / SJax / Tinsley shooting fest?

Oyyy....
:picard:

ajbry
11-04-2006, 12:55 AM
Why wasn't Marquis given the ball on offense? Were we pretty much watching a JONeal / SJax / Tinsley shooting fest?

I agree with you for the most part, except for this particular point. You don't exactly feed Marquis the ball, he's not much of a primary scorer and shouldn't be relied on as a go-to guy in essentially any situation. More touches would have been nice, but it would have been a mistake to force the ball into his hands and run specific plays for him.

Jermaniac
11-04-2006, 01:35 AM
I forgot to say this. LMAO @ The Hornets, you may have won. But you still have that 62 million dollar Austin Croshere on your team. I swear I rather have Cro, at least Cro tries to play D every now and then.

Trader Joe
11-04-2006, 01:40 AM
Alright, I was at this game and well it was a mixed bag, but believe it or not, I am not HORRIBLY disappointed in the lost. There was a lot to be learned there. There was good and bad, so let me get through the bad first so we can end on a good note.

THE BAD:
Al just looks horrible right now. There is no cutting corners. He had 7 boards but he should have had 11 or 12 and just go outworked for them. His offensive game is well, one dimensional at the moment. It seems to consist of a standard bump or two followed by a fade away jumper. He needs to get his kiester in the paint a lot deeper and use his size and quickness to get to the line and get layups. His defense was just horrible. West lit him up like a Christmas tree in the first half. Second half wasn't much better on D.

Sarunas fell back to earth tonight, but I think he serves a purpose, he just needs to stick to it. Tonight he was way too trigger happy. He forced it when it wasn't there. He needs to focus on creating from the two spot. When he does that it gives us the advantage of two good passers on the floor.

Foster was also bad tonight IMO. When Foster is not rebounding well he is just about useless and tonight he was useless. Only 3 boards and wasn't exactly a force defensively either.

DH only played three minutes, but he was extremely unimpressive IMO. Took a couple steps back from the Charlotte game and just never really looked into it.

Our defense and rebounding need work. Outside of Jack, Quis, JO, Tins, and DA our defense was downright horrible. Nobody could stop anyone on the hornets. I mean seriously Janero Pargo was torching us for a while there against Sarunas and DA. (I'll get to my opinion of DA's game in a second)

Danny struggled tonight, he still seems to be trying to find his place on the team. He needs to put the ball on the floor. He get to the rack almost at will already. He seems to get the ball a lot of the time and just look lost.

As long as we are talking about the bad, lets address Violet Palmer. EASILY the worst ref in the NBA right now. She is downright horrible. Her calls were horribly inconsistent and she made several blatantly contradictory calls against us tonight. On top of that she gave the ball back to the Hornets when it obviously went of Chandler's hand. (Oh BTW is over the back no longer a foul in the NBA?) How Palmer still has a job in this league is beyond me really I am just dumbfounded.

THE OK:
Rick, was ok tonight, but I thought he made one mistake. To me that was making DA go for too long tonight. DA was obviously gassed and needed to come out, Rick left him in and Pargo went right at him and probably 6 or 8 quick points that really got the Hornets rolling in the 4th.

Now to DA, yes I am saying his game was OK. His effort and spark he gave us in the 3rd was amazing, but I thought he lost his cool in the 4th just a bit. IDK if anyone else caught it, but he looked frustrated. I caught him yelling at teammates a couple times and I was not impressed. He just seemed to get a little too overhyped late in the 4th when we still had a chance and that upset me a little bit.

THE GOOD:

JO was on tonight his jumper was falling and he probably didn't get enough touches. Plus his defense was absolutely spectacular. His rebounding was subpar, but considering how well he played in every other facet of the game and considering how bad our rebounding was in general he gets a slight mulligan. But if he only grabs 5 or 6 boards against the Knicks he is gonna start hearing it from me. His offense and defense tho were spectacular.

Jack was very good tonight if you asked me. He kicked Peja's butt all around the court defensively and wasn't horrible offensively. Plus I am liking his passing and rebounding so far plus he has cut back significantly on his barking at the officials, so I am happy.

Tins to me played very well til the fouls caught up to him. The assists weren't there but he was scoring and on top of that I thought he played fantastic D on Paul particularly in the first half. I can't remember Paul's first half stats but they were not impressive and Tins deserves all the credit in the world for that.

Finally Quis was great tonight IMO. Good d, drove to the hoop and rebounded well too. He needs more touches, he is extremely smooth and has great body control in the lane. Plus he has a very nice floater in the lane. I want to see more of him going to the hoop.

Now the crowd was great tonight. Really got behind the team and I thought they were kind of wasted, but oh well. Hopefully we can get things on track and consistently have crowds like the one we had tonight. It was fun to be part of that crowd during the 3rd quarter.

OVERALL:

Lots can be learned from tonight's loss. Rebounding needs to be worked on and Al needs to get his butt in gear. Danny needs to lose the deer in headlights look and Sarunas needs to look more to create than score from the two. If those 4 things happen we have a very good team IMO. If nothing else Al just needs to start getting 17-18 ppg and we would have won this game. I am not horribly upset about this loss and probably would actually be happy to have the learning experience if it wasn't for one thing, it was a home loss. If this was a road loss I would be happy we could learn from it, but when you have 13 of your first 19 at home every game at home becomes that much more important. In fact I'd go as far as to say we cannot lose at home again during this stretch. Hopefully we take care of these deficiencies and go forward.

I am actually very optimistic and think are fixes are doable and on top of that it is obvious to me this team likes one another. Lets go out and bounce back and get the Knicks tomorrow night. GO PACERS!!

Oh and Peja is bad really bad. I dunno why they paid him that money. I mean he just looks awful.

bulldog
11-04-2006, 01:54 AM
Holy crap!!! We are not a good shooting team?!?! How could we not see this coming?!?!?