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RoboHicks
10-21-2006, 02:30 PM
Sacramento Kings coach Eric Musselman was arrested on drunk driving charges early Saturday, authorities said.

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grace
10-21-2006, 02:46 PM
Is this where I say the Pacers should have gotten rid of Rick and hired this guy?

Jermaniac
10-21-2006, 02:48 PM
Him and Ron ride together.

Lord Helmet
10-21-2006, 02:50 PM
Wow.

FREE MUSSLEMAN

(If he hasn't already been.)

ABADays
10-21-2006, 02:56 PM
Shakes head.

Evan_The_Dude
10-21-2006, 03:26 PM
If by a slim chance Musselman is fired because of the charges, I want us to hire him as an assistant coach in charge of the defense. Let the flaming begin!!!

Los Angeles
10-21-2006, 03:34 PM
Oh goodness. That's a drag.

Kstat
10-21-2006, 05:21 PM
In his defense, if you were coach of the warriors you'd be a heavy drinker too.....

Naptown_Seth
10-21-2006, 05:59 PM
At least he was driving around drunk with the ability to kill someone instead of sitting at a topless bar smoking a joint. I wouldn't want to see the guy do something immoral.

Bonzi - last year, and even offered him a decent deal this year which he passed on
Artest - new rap album, rant about not playing hard with the Pacers due to low pay
Muss - DUI

Are they, ahem, the jailkings now...the thug kings?

wait, lemme do a Kravitz...the Kings of the Trail?

Outrage, anger, hurrumpf, hurrumpf, grumbly grumble, back in my day...

JayRedd
10-21-2006, 07:15 PM
At least he wasn't also watching porn and/or naked.

Kingsfanbmiller
10-21-2006, 07:41 PM
At least he was driving around drunk with the ability to kill someone instead of sitting at a topless bar smoking a joint. I wouldn't want to see the guy do something immoral.

Bonzi - last year, and even offered him a decent deal this year which he passed on
Artest - new rap album, rant about not playing hard with the Pacers due to low pay
Muss - DUI

Are they, ahem, the jailkings now...the thug kings?

wait, lemme do a Kravitz...the Kings of the Trail?

Outrage, anger, hurrumpf, hurrumpf, grumbly grumble, back in my day...


Give me a break. Artest hasn't done anything wrong in Sacramento. He's been the ultimate professional here. Muss made a mistake and we don't have Bonzi anymore. Pacers have done more to warrant the word "jail" than the Kings have. I aint trying to attack the Pacers but really, it's the truth.

Jermaniac
10-21-2006, 07:43 PM
This is a horrible for a coach who is trying to coach Ron Artest. This is a guy who is supposed to set an example for his whole team, and he is supposed to get on them when they do dumb ****. As soon as he gets on somebody all they are gonna say is what about the time you got arrested coach.

Kingsfanbmiller
10-21-2006, 07:46 PM
This is a horrible for a coach who is trying to coach Ron Artest. This is a guy who is supposed to set an example for his whole team, and he is supposed to get on them when they do dumb ****. As soon as he gets on somebody all they are gonna say is what about the time you got arrested coach.


Our team isn't like that, they will support Musselman and they know that he knows best. They keep it all ball when it's practice or gametime.

GO!!!!!
10-21-2006, 07:57 PM
Edit

The 41-year-old coach failed three sobriety tests and had a blood-alcohol level of 0.11, according to the arrest report. The legal limit is 0.08.

that could happy to anyone really, although it does seem like he wasen't totally focused on driving

Musselman was pulled over at 2:15 a.m. about 1½ miles from the State Capitol after his car was seen making a right-hand turn from the left-hand lane and cutting off another vehicle, said California Highway Patrol spokesman Sgt. Evan Williams.

I'd give my friends in the car a big thank you for allowing me to drive, I hope there not well paid members of the public..

down here the limit is .05

thats a difference and a half really...

Jermaniac
10-21-2006, 07:58 PM
Our team isn't like that, they will support Musselman and they know that he knows best. They keep it all ball when it's practice or gametime.Thanks Joe Maloof

VF21
10-22-2006, 04:10 AM
We aren't going to call for his head on a pike in front of the arena; we aren't going to act as though nothing happened.

He's human. He obviously made a big mistake...and he knows it.

FYI? The other male in the car has been reported to be none other than Darrin May, who is the executive director of media relations for Maloof Sports & Entertainment.

...sigh...

Once is a mistake; as long as he admits his error, which I know he will tomorrow during the press conference at 12:15, and follows whatever punishment is meted out by the courts, I'm not going to go all "holier than thou" on his ***.

This could have been much, much, much worse. It wasn't, thank God, and some good might actually come out of it. Our board has been talking all day about this and I think it's a timely reminder as we enter the holiday season that not only shouldn't you drink and drive, you certainly shouldn't be afraid to stop your friends from drinking and driving.

Yes, Musselman made a mistake but I seriously doubt if he's lost the respect of the players. I think they know, perhaps better than any of us, how easy it is to get into a situation you really shouldn't have gotten into.

GO!!!!!
10-22-2006, 06:27 AM
FYI? The other male in the car has been reported to be none other than Darrin May, who is the executive director of media relations for Maloof Sports & Entertainment.

Taking one for the team then ehh..

Pacesetter
10-22-2006, 09:24 AM
Give me a break. Artest hasn't done anything wrong in Sacramento. He's been the ultimate professional here. Muss made a mistake and we don't have Bonzi anymore. Pacers have done more to warrant the word "jail" than the Kings have. I aint trying to attack the Pacers but really, it's the truth.


Artest is .... cancer in remission

Naptown_Seth
10-22-2006, 11:26 AM
Give me a break. Artest hasn't done anything wrong in Sacramento. He's been the ultimate professional here. Muss made a mistake and we don't have Bonzi anymore. Pacers have done more to warrant the word "jail" than the Kings have. I aint trying to attack the Pacers but really, it's the truth.
What did Ron do in Rick's FIRST SEASON as head coach.

Answer - nothing.

Year 2 - suspended for asking for a month off in the season to deal with his record biz, suspended for 70+ for the brawl, a few days after the brawl was on national TV pushing the Allure CD during interviews about the brawl.


My point isn't that the Kings are bad anyway, which you should have been able to pick up on. This is about the hypocrisy of some Pacers fans who are ignorant of just how small time the Pacers crap is in big picture.

Get back to me when 2 men are stabbed to death at the Club Rio and Jack's limo drives off with the murderers inside. Then we can put him on the cover of NBA Live a few years later.

Oh I forgot, if you are really, really good then you are suitable to be a national icon.


If the competition was for the most immoral, thugged out, criminal behavior the Pacers would fare much worse than they have as a team trying to win a title. Strictly .500 ball at best.

Or did I miss where Jack choked the hell outta Rick last week?

Naptown_Seth
10-22-2006, 11:46 AM
Edit

The 41-year-old coach failed three sobriety tests and had a blood-alcohol level of 0.11, according to the arrest report. The legal limit is 0.08.

that could happy to anyone really, although it does seem like he wasen't totally focused on driving

Musselman was pulled over at 2:15 a.m. about 1 miles from the State Capitol after his car was seen making a right-hand turn from the left-hand lane and cutting off another vehicle, said California Highway Patrol spokesman Sgt. Evan Williams.

I'd give my friends in the car a big thank you for allowing me to drive, I hope there not well paid members of the public..

down here the limit is .05

thats a difference and a half really...
Personally I think the DUI laws are getting a bit too extreme, so I'm not really outraged by Musselman's bust. .15, .20, those are the people that are lethal weapons behind the wheel IMO.

Being tired is a strong factor in traffic deaths too. Just check most of the incidents involving tractor-trailer accidents. But you aren't serving jail time for pushing it.

Then you have the flat-out idiot drivers, or the people on prescribed meds that impare their judgement, and so on.

I'm more concerned about that right from a left hand lane, which probably had nothing to do with the alcohol and everything to do with being a bad driver. Wouldn't be surprised to find out he's done that before while stone sober. People drive like that all the time, like they are the only ones on the road.

Too bad smart driving can't be enforced. That's what I'd bring Muss in on at this point.

PS - I was once in a position to read about many traffic accidents which is why I had the rant. People are F'n stupid a lot more than they are drunk. And unfortunately people aren't typically forced to take driving tests to renew their license...not that losing a license keeps people from getting behind the wheel anyway.

grace
10-22-2006, 12:19 PM
Give me a break. Artest hasn't done anything wrong in Sacramento yet.


Fixed.

Los Angeles
10-22-2006, 01:41 PM
Why did this have to turn into a Kings vs. Pacers thread, and even worse, a Ron Artest thread?

Seriously folks, let's get a hold of ourselves.

vapacersfan
10-22-2006, 04:07 PM
Personally I think the DUI laws are getting a bit too extreme, so I'm not really outraged by Musselman's bust. .15, .20, those are the people that are lethal weapons behind the wheel IMO.

Being tired is a strong factor in traffic deaths too. Just check most of the incidents involving tractor-trailer accidents. But you aren't serving jail time for pushing it.

Then you have the flat-out idiot drivers, or the people on prescribed meds that impare their judgement, and so on.

I'm more concerned about that right from a left hand lane, which probably had nothing to do with the alcohol and everything to do with being a bad driver. Wouldn't be surprised to find out he's done that before while stone sober. People drive like that all the time, like they are the only ones on the road.

Too bad smart driving can't be enforced. That's what I'd bring Muss in on at this point.

PS - I was once in a position to read about many traffic accidents which is why I had the rant. People are F'n stupid a lot more than they are drunk. And unfortunately people aren't typically forced to take driving tests to renew their license...not that losing a license keeps people from getting behind the wheel anyway.



You are right driving tired (lack of sleep) is a huge problem, but I dont see how ANYONE can say the DUI laws are "extreme".

I guess after you work the streets and you see some of the accidents that these morons cause, most of the time to others and not themselves, you have a different perspective.

I dont think you have to have zero tolerance, but to see any law regarding "DUI" is "extreme" is a little crazy, IMHO

ajbry
10-22-2006, 04:10 PM
DUI laws need to be extreme. Drunk drivers are scum of the earth and deserve to be treated severely. They kill people.

Jermaniac
10-22-2006, 04:19 PM
DUI laws need to be extreme. Drunk drivers are scum of the earth and deserve to be treated severely. They kill people.Shooting guns in the air kills people too, you seem to not have a problem with that a few weeks ago. But I'm just saying

grace
10-22-2006, 09:11 PM
Too bad smart driving can't be enforced. That's what I'd bring Muss in on at this point.

He did get pulled over for bad driving. He just happened to be legally impaired at the time.

Naptown_Seth
10-22-2006, 10:13 PM
He did get pulled over for bad driving. He just happened to be legally impaired at the time.
I mean beyond a ticket, at the level of POTENTIAL RISK it creates.

He will be punished MUCH MORE for the .11 than the dangerous lane cross. But if he had been sober he'd get a ticket and sent on his way, regardless of the fact that the move would have been equally lethal in either case if someone had been coming up the right lane at the speed limit.


By extreme I mean the BAC tolerance level. I researched and found good results supporting the fact that fatalities jump somewhat beyond .10 and dramatically when past .15, and that fatalities among sober drivers remain extremely high, so much in fact that a case could be made that the very low rates of .01 to .10 drivers involved in fatal wrecks were made up significantly of the same cause that created the fatal wrecks involving sober drivers.

Here is one place to look if you think I'm full of it.
http://www.cga.ct.gov/ps99/rpt/olr/htm/99-r-0154.htm
A study by Connecticut.

I deleted the rest because this is PD and a BAC/DUI debate gets boring and way too OT. Just be aware than I'm slightly anti-alcohol and consider it a much more problematic and dangerous drug than pot even. I just think that pulling .08 drivers off the road doesn't fix a real problem.

I'd rather they get the 40% REPEAT OFFENDERS involved in DUI fatalties off the road, and those weren't .06 drivers either. Those are your .17 people going right back out and doing it again.

I'd also prefer that they get the dangerously incompetent drivers off the road that are much more likely to kill me than a .08 driver is (unless he is also a bad driver anyway).