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HoboRaskolnikov
10-14-2006, 04:09 AM
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Revamped Frontcourt Debuts vs. Jazz


By Conrad Brunner | Oct 13, 2006<hr> The new-look frontcourt will make its debut Saturday night when the Pacers face Utah in their second preseason game (7:00) in Conseco Fieldhouse.

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Jermaine O'Neal, who missed Wednesday's 103-89 victory over Utah while attending to legal matters, will join offseason acquisition Al Harrington up front, with second-year man Danny Granger at small forward.
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"It should be a lot of fun," said Harrington, who had 21 points and nine rebounds against the Nets in O'Neal's absence. "Obviously, we both should get a lot of open looks, depending on which guy is in the post and who's filling to the top. It'll be our first chance to see how we're going to play off of each other and I'm looking forward to it. I don't know what's going to happen, but we'll see."


O'Neal isn't expecting anything close to a finished product as the two close friends are just beginning to re-establish their on-court relationship. When Harrington was with the Pacers the first time around, he primarily came off the bench.


"I expect it to be a smooth transition," O'Neal said. "Obviously, we've got to figure out our positioning in terms of being able to put guys in bad positions, because me and him together are always going to be able to cause matchup problems for the opposing team. We've just got to figure out who's hot and who's not and at the same time we've got to be able to blend those situations in with the team aspect.
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"It can't just be about me and Al. We've got to take our time, get our feet wet and use these preseason games to get ready for the regular season. Tomorrow, we're just one step closer to where we need to be. It's not the final tale of what we're going to look like on Nov. 1."


Though neither considers himself a center, one of their names most likely Harrington's will be listed at the position in the box score.


"Technically, the NBA makes us put a name behind the position," O'Neal said. "Right we just want to be basketball players and put the best five out there we can. Now, the bigger, stronger guys I probably will take on defense. What they do on defense is a whole other issue. We've just got to help each other. I'm not a center, Al's not a center, but we're going to do our best to really help each other and get the job done.


"I think speed and quickness always takes away physical play. We're probably the best forward-center combination as far as being in great shape, being able to get out and run those guys, being able to put the ball on the floor and get to the basket. It's going to be interesting to see not only how guys defend us but how we work off each other on the defensive end."


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Stephen Jackson isn't sure what kind of reception he'll get when he enters the game but the embattled veteran is just glad he'll have the opportunity.


"I'm here," he said. "This is where I need to be. This is the only place where I can get focused and get ready to play basketball and get my mind off everything else on the outside, by being with my team and playing basketball. I'm definitely ready to do that."


Jackson is facing one felony and two misdemeanor charges stemming from an incident outside an Indianapolis nightclub last week. Because of the missed practice time he will come off the bench, while young free agent Rawle Marshall is expected to start at shooting guard.


"I think there's a good chance (Jackson) will play some tomorrow, but we'll see," said Coach Rick Carlisle. "I like the way he practiced. He's a little behind with his conditioning but not much. Part of getting in condition is playing; that's one of the reasons to play him tomorrow. I expect that we will. It's important to get him re-acclimated to our basketball team."


Jackson, who had the stitches removed from his upper lip Friday morning, is ready to accept whatever role awaits.


"I'm just going with what the team says," he said. "When they're ready for me to play, I'm ready to go."



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<center>Carlisle</center></td></tr></tbody></table> INJURIES POSTPONE ROSTER MOVES
With Orien Greene out three weeks with a broken finger and Marquis Daniels and John Edwards unlikely to play against Utah due to minor injuries, the Pacers are likely to carry their full camp roster of 19 through the weekend.


Daniels played 4 minutes against the Nets before heading to the sideline with a sore right hamstring. Carlisle said he'd prefer to rest Daniels Saturday and bring him back for Monday's game against Minnesota, also in Conseco Fieldhouse. Edwards returned to practice Thursday after missing the first nine practices of camp with a sore lower back, but suffered a strained right groin Friday and will not be available against Utah.


Largely because of the injuries, Carlisle said he didn't anticipate making any cuts until next week.


"Hey," he said with a smile, "I'm all for guys collecting as much per diem as they can."

Will Galen
10-14-2006, 04:47 AM
[url] Because of the missed practice time he will come off the bench, while young free agent Rawle Marshall is expected to start at shooting guard.

The Pacers are really taking a hard look at Marshall. He played 29 minutes against New Jersey which was 6 minutes more than any other Pacer. Now they plan to start him. I hope he does well so the Pacers are in a quandary on who to cut.

rexnom
10-14-2006, 04:58 AM
The Pacers are really taking a hard look at Marshall. He played 29 minutes against New Jersey which was 6 minutes more than any other Pacer. Now they plan to start him. I hope he does well so the Pacers are in a quandary on who to cut.
I think Powell cemented his spot. I think the last one is up for grabs. With Jack and Marquis limited (and Orien Greene injured), Marshall really has a chance here. I think that if he does well he might be able to get the last spot.

317Kim
10-14-2006, 10:22 AM
I'm really hyped about tonight's game.

Danny-Al-Jermaine

Anthem
10-14-2006, 10:32 AM
The Pacers are really taking a hard look at Marshall. He played 29 minutes against New Jersey which was 6 minutes more than any other Pacer. Now they plan to start him. I hope he does well so the Pacers are in a quandary on who to cut.
They're showcasing him.

!Pacers-Fan!
10-14-2006, 11:08 AM
Damn, i wan't both Rawle, Powell in our team and greene too. lol.

BlueNGold
10-14-2006, 01:41 PM
I think Powell cemented his spot. I think the last one is up for grabs. With Jack and Marquis limited (and Orien Greene injured), Marshall really has a chance here. I think that if he does well he might be able to get the last spot.

Powell is in. It is between Marshall and Greene at this point. They are both good players, so it will be a tough call.

I think Greene is more valuable because we don't have anyone like him on the roster. He puts tremendous pressure on the PG defensively, similar to Lindsay Hunter. This can upset the other team's offensive flow and lead to fast breaks. Saras and Tinsley are particularly weak on defense and Greene would help under some circumstances.

Marshall is a good player and seems to have a lot of upside. He has very long arms and will block a lot of shots. Seems to be a pretty good defender. However, Quis and Jack are more talented players at SG. I don't think Marshall will be any better than White. Also, Granger beats him with a stick and may play some SG himself.

So, I think Greene is the man to hang onto.

Raskolnikov
10-14-2006, 01:59 PM
I really like Rawle.

I hope the fact that he (probably) starts means that the P's are giving him a chance to confirm his performance against NJ, in order to further convince them.

Also, we're starting with our projected season starters, except for Rawle. Wouldn't it be strange to include a player in there that will be cut anyways?

Again, at this point, I'd just get rid of Jackson (trade him, waive him; more likely the second) and keep the three young guys. Greene and Marshall definitely convinced me against NJ. Powell didn't stand out all that much to me, but looking at his stats, he contributed nicely as well.

Eindar
10-14-2006, 02:02 PM
They're showcasing him.

Agreed, I think they're looking to get a 2nd for him. We simply have too much depth at 2 and not enough at 1 to justify taking Marshall over Greene

BlueNGold
10-14-2006, 02:11 PM
I really like Rawle.

I hope the fact that he (probably) starts means that the P's are giving him a chance to confirm his performance against NJ, in order to further convince them.

Also, we're starting with our projected season starters, except for Rawle. Wouldn't it be strange to include a player in there that will be cut anyways?

Again, at this point, I'd just get rid of Jackson (trade him, waive him; more likely the second) and keep the three young guys. Greene and Marshall definitely convinced me against NJ. Powell didn't stand out all that much to me, but looking at his stats, he contributed nicely as well.

I am with you if we can purge Jack. The truth is, Jack is expendable if you have Quis, White and Marshall available. Quis is paid starter $'s and is up to the task. Quis and Jack are about the same talent level IMO. White and Marshall can handle backing up the position, particularly when other players like Runi and Granger can play depending on matchups.

I like all of these new players including Baston. It will be exciting to see this new style develop.

croz24
10-14-2006, 02:17 PM
don't understand why more people aren't mentioning armstrong as being the one cut. put him in a suit if he means that much to our 'chemistry'. total waste of a roster spot if he remains on the team over greene and marshall.

BlueNGold
10-14-2006, 02:33 PM
don't understand why more people aren't mentioning armstrong as being the one cut. put him in a suit if he means that much to our 'chemistry'. total waste of a roster spot if he remains on the team over greene and marshall.

Not a bad idea, but I doubt that will happen. Armstrong can have more influence over the players if he is on the roster. Part of it is showing his work ethic on a daily basis.

Also, there is some comfort knowing that Darrell can step in when needed. He is the only other experienced PG on the team with a proven ability to bring the ball up the floor against pressure. If/When Tinsley goes down, we may need him badly. Quis or Greene might be able to get it done, but Armstrong is more of a certainty.