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ChicagoJ
08-24-2006, 10:39 AM
I don't have time to do the research myself but somebody else might want to...

What kind of guards could we get for a package of SJax and Foster?

pacer_pacer
08-24-2006, 10:12 PM
http://www3.realgm.com/src_checktrad...radeid=3353673
Outgoing
Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG 16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes
Jeff Foster
6-11 C 5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes
John Edwards
7-0 C 1.8 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 0.1 apg in 7.4 minutes

Incoming
P.J. Brown
6-11 PF 9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes
Ben Gordon
6-3 SG 16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes

Analysis: We get rid of SJax, in return we pick up similar production (albeit losing considerable height, while gaining considerable speed). I hate seeing Foster go, but under this trade we'll pick up similar production at the back up PF/C spots. Edwards is to make it work, and add another big behind Wallace.

http://www3.realgm.com/src_checktrad...radeid=3353702
Outgoing
Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG 16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes
Jeff Foster
6-11 C 5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes
Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG 9.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg in 26.7 minutes

Incoming
Eddie Jones
6-6 SG 11.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.4 apg in 32.5 minutes
Damon Stoudamire
5-10 PG 11.7 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 4.7 apg in 31.9 minutes

Analysis: OK, so this is a trade with Memphis not involving either Mike Miller or Stromile Swift. Swift just came back to the team, don't see them moving him now. Miller, well we don't have the goods to get it done...Memphis should be able to do better.

We get rid of BOTH SJax AND Tins, again we have to sadly part ways with Foster. It's the last year of the awful Eddie Jones contract, he could be the outside specialist we're looking for. Damon Stoudamire, another similarly productive PG, problem here is that we pick up a contract with a couple years left and he's not getting any younger. Upside, he's an open court PG that could fit well into the new system.


http://www3.realgm.com/src_checktrad...radeid=3353759
Outgoing
Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
9.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg in 26.7 minutes
Jeff Foster
6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes

Incoming
Raef LaFrentz
6-11 C from Kansas
7.8 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 24.7 minutes

Analysis: Basically this trade SUCKS, it doesn't involve SJax or bring in a PG....but RealGM says it works. Thought I'd pass it along anyways. The only upside I see, we fill both the outside specialist AND big man needs in one crappy fullswoop. hahaha


http://www3.realgm.com/src_checktrad...radeid=3353773
Outgoing
Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG 16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes
Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG 9.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg in 26.7 minutes
Jeff Foster
6-11 C 5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes

Incoming
Raef LaFrentz
6-11 C 7.8 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 1.4 apg in 24.7 minutes
Darius Miles
6-9 SF 14.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 32.2 minutes

Analysis: Again, not a great trade. Make believe stuff, BUT we get rid of BOTH SJax AND Tins! Say goodbye to Foster. We pick up the disruptive Darius Miles who can run in the open court...and LaFrentz.

http://www3.realgm.com/src_checktrad...radeid=3354018
Outgoing
Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG 16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes
Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG 9.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg in 26.7 minutes
Jeff Foster
6-11 C 5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes
Rawle Marshall
6-7 SF 3.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 10.7 minutes

Incoming
Michael Redd
6-6 SG 25.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.9 apg in 39.1 minutes
Steve Blake
6-3 PG 8.2 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 4.5 apg in 26.2 minutes

Analysis: Looking at Milwaukee's payroll you start to get the feeling that this team LOVES bad contracts, SO...with this in mind we send Tins' bad contract plus SJax and Foster to Milwaukee for their backcourt. Although completely unrealistic, this is a pretty nice scenario.

avoidingtheclowns
08-25-2006, 05:21 AM
two teams that would seem to want Foster and Jackson would be Minnesota and Houston. but who would we want that we could get in return?

maybe we'd be able to work those two into a potential NJ / CHA vince carter deal.

there are a bunch of deals i'd like to make:

IND & MEM
Indiana receives: Mike Miller, Dahntay Jones, Lawrence Roberts
Memphis Receives: Jackson, Foster

or

IND & PHX
Indiana receives: Raja Bell, Kurt Thomas
Phoenix Receives: Jackson, Foster

the problem is the other teams have no need to make these deals.

if we traded jax and foster individually, maybe what we could get a better value. maybe a draft pick and one of these players:

Juan Dixon, Voshon Leonard (Por)
Damien Wilkens, Nick Collison (Sea)
Lawrence Roberts, Hakim Warrick, Dahntay Jones (Mem)
Hedo Turkoglu (Orl)
Robert Horry, Brent Barry (San)

part of the problem is we don't know what the team is really going to look like at this point especially at the guard positions.

Ron who?
08-26-2006, 06:57 PM
IND & PHX
Indiana receives: Raja Bell, Kurt Thomas
Phoenix Receives: Jackson, Foster


i would cry for joy if we somehow got this trade to happen because Raja Bell can shoot the three

avoidingtheclowns
08-28-2006, 02:06 AM
i would cry for joy if we somehow got this trade to happen because Raja Bell can shoot the three

the problem is the reason that Phoenix would be willing to trade Raja is because they've committed to Barbosa being the starter and since they just signed piatkowski as a backup, wouldn't need that depth at SG when they also have diaw and james jones at SF. the only way is to make it a 3 or 4-way team trade.