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Skaut_Ech
08-01-2006, 05:19 PM
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</td></tr></tbody></table> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="810"> <tbody><tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top"> One of the keys to having success in fantasy hoops is securing players who play within very stable systems and rotations. In other words, when you draft a guy with your third-round pick, you generally donít want to have to worry about him losing his job or splitting time with another player by Christmas. Looking at the NBA landscape, when it comes to lineup volatility, there is a clear separation of the haves and have-nots.<!--break-->

Good teams like the Heat, Spurs, Pistons and Suns all have fairly reliable rotations, while even a bad team like the Hawks has a probable starting five that looks to be nearly guaranteed.

Then there are teams like the Raptors, Blazers, Knicks and Pacers. There are so many questions about these teamsí rotations, and there probably will be several lineup changes throughout the season. I thought Iíd take a look at the five most stable starting lineups and the five most unstable for todayís column.

Stable Starting Fives

1. Phoenix Suns

PG Steve Nash (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=417)
SG Raja Bell (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=743)
SF Shawn Marion (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=613)
PF Boris Diaw (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=947)
C Amare Stoudemire (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=856)

Now that is a fantasy goldmine. If Stoudemire is healthy and Diaw proves to be more than a one-year wonder, this team should be unstoppable, at least on the offensive end of things. Youíll have the best young center in the game (Stoudemire), last yearís most improved player (Diaw) who is a triple-double threat 82 times per year, last yearís top-ranked fantasy player (Marion), last yearís MVP (Nash) and Raja Bell (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=743), who clearly came into his own last season. The Suns even got rid of Tim Thomas (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=464) over the summer, and while Marcus Banks (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=939) will spell Nash occasionally, heís not a real threat to take anyoneís job.

2. Miami Heat

PG Jason Williams (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=533)
SG Dwyane Wade (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=931)
SF Antoine Walker (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=424)
PF Udonis Haslem (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=988)
C Shaquille OíNeal

These guys are all virtually guaranteed starting jobs and, barring injury, will keep them all year. Walker came off the bench behind James Posey (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=622) last season, but took over the starting job at the end of the year and kept it through their championship run. Either way, when you look at this lineup, you know what youíre going to get.

3. San Antonio Spurs

PG Tony Parker (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=780)
SG Manu Ginobili (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=659)
SF Bruce Bowen (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=462)
PF Tim Duncan (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=467)
C Francisco Elson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=644)

I know, Elson doesnít exactly have a calming effect on fantasy owners, but Parker, Ginobili, Bowen and Duncan are about as stable as it gets. And whether it was the departed Rasho Nesterovic (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=543) or Nazr Mohammed (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=555), or the newly acquired Elson or Jackie Butler (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1111) at center, expectations are so low that it really doesnít matter. That said, Elson can run the floor and could actually be their most effective center since the Admiral, which probably isnít saying much. And Iím not saying that Bowen is a solid fantasy player (although he has value in deep leagues). Iím saying that the Spurs have a very stable starting five.

4. New Jersey Nets

PG Jason Kidd (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=303)
SG Vince Carter (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=531)
SF Richard Jefferson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=776)
PF Jason Collins (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=783)
C Nenad Krstic (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=871)

The Nets lineup doesnít look quite as fantasy-friendly as the Sunsí starting five, but Kidd, Carter, Jefferson and Krstic were all solid fantasy plays last year and should be again this season. Collins really doesnít have much fantasy value and could be even less effective this season with the arrival of Mikki Moore (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=589), but thatís fine. Just ignore him on draft day. Rookie Josh Boone (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1281) was threatening to make an impact on the rotation, but will miss the first part of the season after shoulder surgery. Rookie Marcus Williams (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1268) will back up Kidd, but poses no fantasy threat to him, at least this year.

5. Atlanta Hawks

PG Speedy Claxton (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=697)
SG Joe Johnson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=773)
SF Josh Smith (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1057)
PF Marvin Williams (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1125)
C Zaza Pachulia (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=968)

All five of these players are virtually guaranteed a starting job, although Williams didnít emerge until recently, and only after rookie Shelden Williams (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1259) was highly disappointing in the summer league. It sounds like Al Harrington (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=551) is going to Indy, but itís still not official. If he stays in Atlanta, or they make another move, the lineup could become more volatile, but if things donít change, this starting five looks like a sure thing.

Other teams that could have come in at No. 5 were the Cavaliers, Pistons, Hornets and Timberwolves, but each of them had some question marks so I went with the Hawks instead.

The Cavs have point guard questions and the unresolved Drew Gooden (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=851) situation and the Pistons wonít hesitate to yank Mohammed out of the lineup, slide Rasheed Wallace (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=353) over to center and start Antonio McDyess (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=351) if necessary. The Hornets are still unsure if they trust Desmond Mason (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=694), especially with Bobby Jackson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=485) around. Rasual Butler (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=899) also throws a wrench in things and rookie Cedric Simmons (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1266) appears to be ready to play right now. The Wolvesí lineup looks pretty good too, and I think the potential of rookie Randy Foye (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1260) actually creates more fantasy questions than answers for Minnesotaís lineup, although itís clear heís going to be a great player.

Unstable Starting Fives

Perhaps the greatest example of lineup volatility weíve ever seen was Larry Brownís Knicks last season with his record-setting 42 different starting lineups. Thatís right, I said 42 starting lineups. You can Google ď42 starting lineupsĒ and find plenty of Knicks and Brown bashing, but I will try not to digress into that here. Very few of those lineup changes were injury driven and even reliable fantasy players like Stephon Marbury (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=414) were stripped of all value, while players like Jackie Butler (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1111) and Maurice Taylor (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=478) were given solid minutes over young guys.

There are plenty of unstable lineups out there this season, and, of course, Isiahís Knicks are on the list.

1. Portland Trailblazers

PG Steve Blake (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=964)/Jarrett Jack (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1123)/Dan Dickau (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=874)/Brandon Roy (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1256)
SG Martell Webster (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1129)/Juan Dixon (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=864)/Brandon Roy (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1256)
SF Brandon Roy (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1256)/Darius Miles (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=680)/Travis Outlaw (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=949)
PF Zach Randolph (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=784)/Raef LaFrentz (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=529)/ LaMarcus Aldridge (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1249)
C Joel Przybilla (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=686)/LaMarcus Aldridge (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1249)

Things will become much more complicated when Blake is sent to Milwaukee for center Jamaal Magloire (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=696), and if it happens, Jack suddenly becomes the favorite to start at point guard, but hereís what we know as of today.

Rookie Brandon Roy (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1256) is probably going to start for this team. We just donít know where. He was impressive at point guard, shooting guard and small forward in the summer league.

Webster has supposedly been promised the starting shooting guard job, but Iím not sure I believe that.

Miles is unhappy and wants out of Portland, although heís not even tradable due to his attitude and contract. That is, unless the Blazers want to include Roy or Aldridge in the deal and there are some people who believe thatís the reason theyíre acquiring Magloire. So that he can share center duties with Przybilla if Aldridge isnít around. Getting rid of Miles would help clear things up, but losing one of their two prized rookies would hurt, although it all depends on what they would get back in return. And Travis Outlaw (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=949) could be set to breakout if he ever gets starterís minutes.

Randolph will be guaranteed the starting power forward job, but LaFrentz is going to get minutes and Aldridge, if he stays, needs to also be worked in the mix somehow as well.

Przybilla showed tremendous loyalty in his re-signing with the Blazers, but you have to think heís not going to be happy if Magloire joins the team. Magloire averaged nine points and nine boards last season and could easily win the starting job if he wants to.

As you can see, there are a lot more questions than answers in Portland right now and itís possible that could still be the case at the end of October.

2. Toronto Raptors

PG T.J. Ford (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=934)/Jose Calderon (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1171)
SG Morris Peterson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=698)/Anthony Parker (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=465)/Fred Jones (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=861)
SF Joey Graham (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1145)/Andrea Bargnani (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1253)/Jorge Garbajosa (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1292)/Morris Peterson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=698)
PF Chris Bosh (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=930)/Jorge Garbajosa (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1292)/Kris Humphries (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1054)/Ukos Slokar
C Rasho Nesterovic (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=543)/Jorge Garbajosa (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1292)

The Raptors question marks are made even more interesting because most of us havenít even seen half of their lineup play before, as they have become the most internationally flavored team in NBA history.

Peterson, Parker, Bargnani and Garbajosa are all guys with a ton of talent, but a completely undefined role. Iíve seen Peterson and Parker listed as the starters at both shooting guard and small forward depending on who youíre listening to, and Iíve seen Garbajosa listed as the starting small forward, the backup power forward and even the backup center, despite the fact heís only 6-7.

I spoke with NBA TVís Rick Kamla on Sunday about Garbajosa and we both agree that he will split time between the two forward positions and should have no chance of qualifying at center in fantasy leagues. However, he could get limited minutes backing up Nesterovic because backup Pape Sow (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1087) is out with broken vertebrae in his neck. But itís also possible the Raptors will sign another center prior to training camp.

If Peterson does play small forward, which would likely put Graham and Bargnani on the bench, then there should be a heck of a battle between Parker and Jones for the starting two-guard spot. And speaking of Bargnani, heís listed as both a small and power forward depending on the source, but in my opinion, I donít care how tall he is. If he doesnít play inside and rebound, heís a ď3.Ē

This team truly reminds me of Hubie Brownís Memphis Grizzlies of a few years ago. Twelve-man rotations, limited minutes for everyone involved and a different fantasy hero every night were the order of the day. Bosh and Ford are guaranteed to get theirs, but itís a roll of the dice after that. And Ford is not the most reliable player injury-wise, so Jose Calderon (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1171) comes into play at some point as well.

3. New York Knicks

PG Stephon Marbury (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=414)/Steve Francis (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=606)/Nate Robinson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1153)
SG Jamal Crawford (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=685)/Steve Francis (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=606)/Nate Robinson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1153)
SF Jalen Rose (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=314)/Quentin Richardson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=695)/David Lee (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1158)/Renaldo Balkman (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1280)/Qyntel Woods (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=868)
PF Channing Frye (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1127)/Maurice Taylor (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=478)
C Eddy Curry (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=767)/Jerome James (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=562)

I get a headache just looking at that, and then when you add Jared Jeffries (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=858), whoís expected to join the Knicks on a free-agent contract? Yikes.

We know Isiah and Marburyís lovefest will continue and Marbury will get plenty of minutes. We also know that Frye and Curry should start on the front line and see plenty of clock. But if you can figure out the wing positions, please let me know. Rose and Richardson are on the trading block and you have to think someone is going to be moved this summer, or this rotation will be as much of a nightmare as last yearís. But even if it is, I bet you Isiah doesnít crack 35 starting lineups this season.

And if Eddy Curry (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=767) reports out of shape this season, itís going to get ugly in the middle quickly.

4. Indiana Pacers

PG Jamaal Tinsley (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=781)/Sarunas Jasikevicius (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1166)/Orien Greene (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1175)/Darrell Armstrong (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=349)
SG Marquis Daniels (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=987)/Stephen Jackson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=503)/James White (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1290)
SF Stephen Jackson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=503)/Danny Granger (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1137)/Shawne Williams (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1263)/James White (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1290)/Rawle Marshall (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1172)
PF Jermaine OíNeal/Danny Granger (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1137)/Shawne Williams (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1263)
C Jermaine OíNeal/Jeff Foster (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=625)/David Harrison (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1069)

Al Harrington (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=551) is reportedly on the verge of becoming a Pacer as well, further clouding this picture.

Here are the players who should be starting for the Pacers this season: Tinsley, Daniels, Jackson, Granger and OíNeal. But Jasikevicius is going to get plenty of run, especially when Tinsley is out with an injury by Thanksgiving, and then Orien Greene (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1175) is going to become a sleeper backup.

Rookies James White (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1290) and Shawne Williams (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1263) have impressed Rick Carlisle and Larry Bird and are going to get minutes this season. OíNeal is better suited to play power forward instead of center, but if that happens, Jackson, Daniels or Granger goes to the bench as Foster and Harrison battle for the starting center job. And then you have to think Al Harrington (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=551)ís going to get added into this equation as well, meaning Jackson probably goes to the bench.

In any case, itís still too early to try to figure out what this lineup will look like by the end of October, but just be aware that the Pacers are another team with more questions than answers, and many people think theyíre headed to the lottery. Iím not sure Iíd go that far, but it sure would be nice to have a shot in the Greg Oden sweepstakes next summer.

5. Boston Celtics

PG Sebastian Telfair (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1053)/Delonte West (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1064)/Rajon Rondo (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1272)
SG Wally Szczerbiak (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=610)/Tony Allen (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1065)/Gerald Green (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1135)
SF Paul Pierce (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=536)/Gerald Green (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1135)/Brian Scalabrine (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=797)
PF Ryan Gomes (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1133)/Al Jefferson (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1055)/Leon Powe (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1267)
C Kendrick Perkins (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=953)/Theo Ratliff (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=367)/Kevin Pittsnogle (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=NBA&id=1122)

The Celticsí issues look like a walk in the park compared to the rest of the teams in this category, but they have some position battles that need to be worked out.

In my mind, Telfair is clearly the starting point guard, but there is another big website out there who still has West as the starter. West was great last season, so thereís a very good chance that these two will split minutes this season, although I did have Telfair on my sleeper list last week.

Szczerbiakís knee problems are reportedly still there and weíre seeing the words ďbone on boneĒ associated with him recently, which is a little scary. If Wally does go down, Allen and Green would probably split minutes at shooting guard. Those two need more minutes anyway, so Wally could actually see his minutes limited even if healthy.

I really think Gomes may emerge over Jefferson as the starter at power forward this season, which would be a pretty big upset. But Gomes was more reliable all of last season and Danny Ainge and Doc Rivers, to put it simply, trust him more than they do Jefferson.

Perkins and Ratliff are going to have a great battle for the starting center job. Iím going with Perkins for now, but we wonít know for sure until the fall.

Well there you have it. Iím pretty confident that I didnít solve any mysteries here, but I think itís important to start thinking ahead and looking at position battles and lineups that offer the safest environment for your potential fantasy players.

Doc

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Gyron
08-01-2006, 05:32 PM
How often is it that a team that still made the playoffs all throughout all this turmoil is still compared to teams like the knicks that have a gnats *** chance in hell of making the playoffs?

Robertmto
08-01-2006, 05:35 PM
I don't even think Tinsley believes that Tinsley will ever be healthy again.

BoomBaby31
08-01-2006, 06:23 PM
Our roster looks awful, doesn't it? Tinsley isn't going to play over 50games next season, JO is going to at least miss 15, and the next best person we have is Jax lol. We need to make some trades, way to many "prospects" not enough talent. You can swing it in baseball with "prospects" and 1 stud but not in basketball. Wow I wish we would of took Cory Maggette.

FrenchConnection
08-01-2006, 06:39 PM
Our roster looks awful, doesn't it? Tinsley isn't going to play over 50games next season, JO is going to at least miss 15, and the next best person we have is Jax lol. We need to make some trades, way to many "prospects" not enough talent. You can swing it in baseball with "prospects" and 1 stud but not in basketball. Wow I wish we would of took Cory Maggette.

Wait a minute. You are the one that argued that above all else the Pacers needed shooters and now you call for Maggette. Make up your mind.

The roster does not look all that bad. A bunch of NBA writers have to fill space in late July and so they speculate about the fates of teams that are not even close to being set. We know more about this team than national writers. And finally, Maggette is absolutly not the answer. Marquis is a younger version that has not had the chance to prove himself. Remember, early in his career Maggette was considered a bust. "He should have stayed at Duke for another two years," everyone said. Quis will prove to be just as effective as Maggette in time.

Destined4Greatness
08-01-2006, 06:59 PM
Obviously starting linep stability is only a small part of success or else the Hawks would be projected to make the playoffs.

grace
08-01-2006, 07:05 PM
Obviously starting linep stability is only a small part of success or else the Hawks would be projected to make the playoffs.

Considering they beat the Pacers every time last year I'd say that's the next logical step.

Destined4Greatness
08-01-2006, 07:10 PM
The only reason they beat us last year was as I recall Harrington had a big game every time. And really I don't think that them beating us says good things about them. But more likely bad things about us.

Putnam
08-01-2006, 10:06 PM
Wasn't the point of the article that stable starting fives are better for fantasy players? Apart from the ill-considered comment at the end, he's only saying that you can't be sure which Pacers players are going to be getting a lot of minutes.

Will Galen
08-01-2006, 10:26 PM
That article was for fantasy players. We've had a lot of different starting lineups the last two years and still made the playoffs.

Plus I don't think it much matters who starts, but who's in the rotation. Especially at the end of a game!

BoomBaby31
08-02-2006, 01:12 AM
Wait a minute. You are the one that argued that above all else the Pacers needed shooters and now you call for Maggette. Make up your mind.

The roster does not look all that bad. A bunch of NBA writers have to fill space in late July and so they speculate about the fates of teams that are not even close to being set. We know more about this team than national writers. And finally, Maggette is absolutly not the answer. Marquis is a younger version that has not had the chance to prove himself. Remember, early in his career Maggette was considered a bust. "He should have stayed at Duke for another two years," everyone said. Quis will prove to be just as effective as Maggette in time.

Since when is Maggette not a shooter? Maggette is a fine player, he isn't the answer but boy would he help. You honestly think our roster looks good? If we would of traded for Maggette most likely we would of still got Quis as well. It shouldn't effected the Austin Quis trade at all.

We are low on talent, we are so low on talent most of this board is expecting our rookies to play MAJOR roles in the offense. We are way worse then last year; we have lost Croshere, AJ, and Peja all we have recieved is Quis and Armstrong. Croshere was a leader, AJ carried us so much last year it was pathetic, Peja was injured a lot but we were MUCH better with him on the court.

PG: Tinsley (will miss 40 games next season like always) Saras/Armstrong would be 3rd string on any other team (if even welcome on their team)

SG: Jax is decent but is trade bait right now and is very hot headed, granted he does show up in play, Quis hasn't ever been a full time starter, he isn't a "scorer" and IMO won't start in front of Jax. Not saying he isn't a good addition.

SF: Granger: we love the guy but, lets be realistic how many teams would he start for besides us? Williams and White are both rookies we shouldn't even have relience on them at this point

PF: JO is our star player but is he the leader and can he stay healthy? Baston, who is this guy again?

C: Foster good player but another injury prone player, Hulk struggles playing over 18 minutes per game. He avg more minutes his rookie season then his sophomore.

Who is going to score on this team? Tinsely will be injured, Quis isn't a "scorer", Jax is decent but when he is cold boy he is cold, Granger can score but it's not like he is going to take over the game, we can't rely on JO to score 30+ points to carry us. Foster isn't a scorer neither is Hulk. I don't see why it wouldn't be beneficial adding Maggette, he is a scorer, plays 30+ minutes a game, averages 20-22 points a game and can play the 3 well.

In conclusion; we need a scorer I wasn't totally calling out for Maggette just simply saying we could be better off with him instead of taking Peja. Our line-up isn't horrible but it is far from good. We'd be lucky if we made the playoffs with that line-up. I feel the Pacers are going to make many more trades to get the right pieces for this puzzle but right now we aren't close to being complete.

OH, and sorry I'm not proof-reading any of this so bare with the errors. lol