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vapacersfan
07-24-2006, 10:00 PM
Not sure how many of you care, but I remember we had a pretty active thread when he threatened to ban them last year.

Well according to this months GQ he has changed his mind and is going to let players continue to wear them.

Eindar
07-24-2006, 10:01 PM
Good idea, they're not "street", and the players like them from a theraputic perspective.

rexnom
07-24-2006, 10:06 PM
I gotta get me some of these.

sweabs
07-24-2006, 10:11 PM
I have been wearing them ever since I tore my hamstring from an old soccer injury. They're great for volleyball and basketball especially. Good decision by Stern; I suppose he did his research on this one.

Evan_The_Dude
07-24-2006, 10:14 PM
I'm going to wear panty hose and try out for the NBA. Hopefully I'll make it. I just want to see what Stern will say.

rexnom
07-24-2006, 10:15 PM
I have been wearing them ever since I tore my hamstring from an old soccer injury. They're great for volleyball and basketball especially. Good decision by Stern; I suppose he did his research on this one.
Where can you find them? Do you have to talk to a trainer? I would be curious to give them a test-drive.

sweabs
07-24-2006, 10:18 PM
Where can you find them? Do you have to talk to a trainer? I would be curious to give them a test-drive.

I think most sports stores or outlet stores seem to have them. I was at a Nike Outlet store when I was last in the States, and picked up a few pairs. If you ask for any type of compression short, dry-fit shorts, etc. they should be able to direct you the right aisle.

Another reason they could be so popular up here is because they are frequently used by hockey players.

vapacersfan
07-24-2006, 10:34 PM
I have been wearing them ever since I tore my hamstring from an old soccer injury. They're great for volleyball and basketball especially. Good decision by Stern; I suppose he did his research on this one.

Agreed, even though I got harrassed liek no other, I used to wear the "compression shorts" every day for track, along with those leg sleevie things (the ones that Kobe and T-Mac wore). It really did help to prevent me from getting any more injuries, granted by that point I had already had 6 major ones.

Kegboy
07-24-2006, 10:38 PM
Glad to hear that. Stern acted stupidly, but what else is new.

pacers31tc
07-25-2006, 02:20 PM
This brings us back to the old question: How is it possible for one man to have that much power in his arena/field? If David Stern were President of the United States, and had power proportionate to his power in the NBA, what would the world be like? Well, other than a dictatorship.

Let's get a pair of tights for Tinsley, heck, let's get him a whole bodysuit.

btowncolt
07-25-2006, 02:23 PM
I've been wearing those for years on the weekends.

D23
07-25-2006, 02:24 PM
Let's get a pair of tights for Tinsley, heck, let's get him a whole bodysuit.

LOL, you just made my day sir! :cheers:

pacers31tc
07-25-2006, 02:26 PM
Happy to put a smile on your face.

We'd be all good until the thing ripped.

Horseman872
07-25-2006, 02:26 PM
This brings us back to the old question: How is it possible for one man to have that much power in his arena/field? If David Stern were President of the United States, and had power proportionate to his power in the NBA, what would the world be like? Well, other than a dictatorship.

Let's get a pair of tights for Tinsley, heck, let's get him a whole bodysuit.

:hmm::-o:rotflmao:

But we still gotta worry about his sinus infections.

rel
07-25-2006, 02:57 PM
the only player on the pacers i see wearing them is Marquis. He wore them last year, and probably will this year

sweabs
07-25-2006, 02:59 PM
That's an awesome avatar, REL.

indypacerfan54
07-25-2006, 03:10 PM
They have never been proven to provide any theraputic effect. Its the same thing as breathe right strips. Placebo

The mind is a powerful thing

circlecitysportsfan
07-25-2006, 03:16 PM
I don't wear them because i'm so skinny i'd need a belt.

vapacersfan
07-25-2006, 03:22 PM
They have never been proven to provide any theraputic effect. Its the same thing as breathe right strips. Placebo

The mind is a powerful thing

It may not have been "proven", but its pretty common knoweldge that they help.

I have been to half a dozen PT in the last 2-3 years, and they have all discussed ways to keep my muscles warm before workouts, ep. in the winter seasons, and all of them have brought up "compression gear"

indypacerfan54
07-25-2006, 03:58 PM
Im a pta and we let athletes use anything they want if it is not detrimental. Breathe right strips wraps and most braces/compression support do not work on a physiological/anatomical level to prevent injuries.

Most of these products work on a placebo level save for SOME braces and SOME wraps that allow athletes greater joint awareness that had perhaps been lost bue to previous injuries.

One theory suggests that the braces actrually allow an athlete to sense golgi tendon organs and muscle spindle signals more acutely.

As far as compression tights go most injuries are not caused by "cold" muscles. warm up in competition is more for your brain than muscles. Repetitive actions form engrams which are almost on a reflex level and warming up greatly accounts for getting your body prepared this way.

vapacersfan
07-25-2006, 04:09 PM
Im a pta and we let athletes use anything they want if it is not detrimental. Breathe right strips wraps and most braces/compression support do not work on a physiological/anatomical level to prevent injuries.

Most of these products work on a placebo level save for SOME braces and SOME wraps that allow athletes greater joint awareness that had perhaps been lost bue to previous injuries.

One theory suggests that the braces actrually allow an athlete to sense golgi tendon organs and muscle spindle signals more acutely.

As far as compression tights go most injuries are not caused by "cold" muscles. warm up in competition is more for your brain than muscles. Repetitive actions form engrams which are almost on a reflex level and warming up greatly accounts for getting your body prepared this way.

No disprespect, but after my 4th injury is back to back seasons, my parents shelled out a lot to figure out what the hell was wrong with me (physically, mentally they gave up long ago :D). I wasnt looking for "this wont hurt you so go ahead and use it" from those so called "specialists". I was looking for a cause and a cure. And we got a cause for about half of my injuries. Still a few we dont know what caused them.

As for your last point, I strongly disagree. I had shin splints that turned into a stress fracture that turned into a torn ligament in my hip, and all of those were a product of both "lack of stretching" (which happened in indoor track season in the winder, where we practice outside) and overtraining.

JayRedd
07-25-2006, 04:15 PM
Im a pta and we let athletes use anything they want if it is not detrimental. Breathe right strips wraps and most braces/compression support do not work on a physiological/anatomical level to prevent injuries.

Most of these products work on a placebo level save for SOME braces and SOME wraps that allow athletes greater joint awareness that had perhaps been lost bue to previous injuries.

One theory suggests that the braces actrually allow an athlete to sense golgi tendon organs and muscle spindle signals more acutely.

As far as compression tights go most injuries are not caused by "cold" muscles. warm up in competition is more for your brain than muscles. Repetitive actions form engrams which are almost on a reflex level and warming up greatly accounts for getting your body prepared this way.

Regardless of the medical and psychological explanations or actual preventative abilities of these things, if they mean that there is less chance that Wade, LeBron and Kobe ever get serioulsy hurt and I get to watch them play for the next decade, I'm all for men in tights.

indypacerfan54
07-25-2006, 04:16 PM
stretching is not warming up you should stretch after your already "warmed up"

you should always do what works for you Im glad what ever youre doing is working

vapacersfan
07-25-2006, 04:19 PM
stretching is not warming up you should stretch after your already "warmed up"

you should always do what works for you Im glad what ever youre doing is working

Sorry, didnt mean to come across snotty.

I have always looked at "stretching" and "warming" up as the same thing. Gratned when I was still a part of a team (its now been all of 3 years) we "warmed-up"/"stretched" for an hour and a half every day, and 30-45 minutes after every workout, so maybe we just did both.

Either way, even if it is just psycological, you need any advantage you can get.

indypacerfan54
07-25-2006, 04:26 PM
thats ok it is very hard for people to change old habits/thought processes. It is good your teams did stretching after practice. Older coaches still believe that stretching should be done during warm up to prevent injuries. Flexability is a very important fitness component that if neglected can definately contribute to a myriad of injuries.

Older coached just wont believe that an athlete will have greater flex gains after practice than before.

pacers31tc
07-26-2006, 01:18 AM
circlecity your signature pic looks like the Power Rangers. Hopefully they'll defeat the monsters trying to take over the world in '08. Go USA!