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    Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

    Most of this article is just about Paul Pierce, but toward the end he talks about his desire to add either KG or JO to the Celtics.

    http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb...dreams/?page=1

    In LA, Pierce has big dreams

    By Shira Springer, Globe Staff | July 7, 2006

    LOS ANGELES -- Paul Pierce spent yesterday morning shuttling between local television and radio stations, promoting ``A Midsummer Night's Dream," the charity event he will co-host with Baron Davis this weekend.

    With friends and former teammates Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis, and Mike James in town, minor surgery on his left elbow planned for August (that will keep him from Team USA tryouts), and talk of Allen Iverson joining the Celtics, Pierce reflected on his career and wondered about his legacy.

    He wants to be mentioned among the greatest NBA players, like his childhood idol, Magic Johnson, who previously hosted a charity weekend benefiting several LA-based and national foundations. But Pierce knows that kind of legacy rarely comes without a championship, something he might have to chase somewhere besides Boston.

    ``I think about [my legacy] all the time, probably more this year than other years," said Pierce. ``I realize I'm going into my ninth year and I've probably only got five or six years left to play. If I can just get that opportunity, to be on a team where I have a chance to compete for a championship, that's all I can ask for. I guess the teams that I've been on pretty much my whole career we've been fighting just to get in the playoffs. I want the opportunity to go deep into the playoffs just to show people what I can do."

    When asked if he would leave the Celtics if the opportunity to compete for a championship doesn't present itself in the near future, Pierce said, ``Maybe so, down the road. I'd definitely consider that. If I don't see the opportunity in the near future, then maybe it's my time. It's hard to say. Everything right now is based on our potential. We're one of the youngest teams in the NBA. I'm happy with the potential we have and I think those guys can be really good players, if not superstars in the NBA. My only thing is, how soon will they be good enough to win a championship? That is the veteran question that crosses my mind when I think about continuing my career as a Celtic and pursuit of being one of the best players."

    Last season, Pierce frequently said he wanted to retire a Celtic and see his No. 34 raised to the rafters. Downtime in LA this summer might have changed his perspective slightly. Plus, watching Walker win a championship with the Miami Heat also made Pierce think more critically about the direction of his career.

    ``You get a chance to come home and be around your family and I've got people coming at me from all type of sides," said Pierce. ``I've got people telling me this is what you need to do. A lot of people say, `You need to be in LA, you won't win a championship in Boston' and `by the time y'all [in Boston] are ready, you'll be retired.' It does get to you at times and it's something to think about."

    Pierce met with executive director of basketball operations Danny Ainge in Boston last week to discuss concerns raised by family, friends, and Pierce's view of the situation. He plans to meet with Ainge again soon. One of the topics of conversation will be a contract extension, though the five-time All-Star feels no sense of urgency to complete a deal. He will wait for the offer and watch the moves Ainge makes.

    Pierce essentially dismissed the Iverson rumors, called the Celtics' draft night deals ``a step," and doesn't hold much hope for free agency. Pierce's thoughts came with a healthy dose of realism.

    On Iverson: ``It sounds good right now, but every year you get big trade rumors. Everybody knows trade rumors are just rumors until they really happen. How many teams was I traded to last summer? I think it would be great to get Allen Iverson. The thing about being young is you're inconsistent. You know Allen Iverson is going to bring it every night. If you've got two players on your team like that and a lot of different role players, it doesn't matter which one steps up, as long you get one."

    On possibly playing with Iverson: ``I can play with anybody. I've learned to adjust to any situation. [In 2004-05], playing with Gary Payton and Antoine Walker, I made the adjustment. I took fewer shots. I sacrificed what I was capable of doing for the good of the team. That's the type of player I am."

    On the draft: ``It helped our team financially. Who knows how many more wins we're going to have with the trade? I don't think it's made us instant contenders. Regardless of the trade, we knew next year we were going to be a very competitive team with what we had already. The trade did make us better. We got a point guard. We got a shot-blocker. We're still a couple pieces away from becoming a contender."

    On free agency: ``We're not a team that free agents come to. Let's just be realistic. For us to get better, we've got to do it through the draft and trades. It's not like guys who become free agents say, `Boston is the place I want to be.' Everybody knows the free agent spots are Miami, Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York."

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    On the optimistic side, Pierce recognizes one big deal can dramatically change the Celtics' outlook for next season, bringing to mind players such as Kevin Garnett and Jermaine O'Neal, in addition to Iverson. Pierce is friendly with Garnett and O'Neal and would welcome either one in a blockbuster deal.

    When asked whom he would like to see in Boston uniform, Pierce said, ``Shaquille O'Neal, but that's unrealistic. Realistically? It's hard to say what realistic trades are out there. You hear rumors about KG, Jermaine O'Neal, Allen Iverson. How true are they? Everybody would love to play with those type of guys. We're all in the same position. We're All-Stars on struggling teams that need help. I think KG probably needs me as much as I need him. The same with Jermaine. The same with AI."

    Unless the Celtics pull off a blockbuster trade with Minnesota, Indiana, or Philadelphia, Pierce, Garnett, O'Neal, and Iverson will have just one thing in common this summer: for various reasons, the All-Star foursome will not participate in the Team USA tryouts.

    Pierce will not take part in the competition because of a sore left elbow that forced him to miss the final three games of the season. After playing pickup games last week and absorbing contact for the first time since the season ended, Pierce decided he needed elbow surgery. According to Pierce, team physician Brian McKeon will operate in August, leaving the captain more than enough time for rehabilitation before training camp starts in October.

    ``I was debating it because the swelling went down," said Pierce. ``But I played last week and it started to hurt again. If I keep playing, I feel like it's going to swell up. The best thing is for me to get it out of the way. It's something I've got to do. It's a minor surgery, a minor cut, just clean it out. It's not a long rehab, probably about two weeks. If I was going to play USA [basketball], it was just going to get worse. It was something that was going to linger."

    ``[Trying out for Team USA] is something that I really wanted to do, but at the same time I've got to take care of my body. I'm sure the team, the organization, will be glad that I'm not playing. They'd rather have me be healthy for the season, anyway. I probably won't be on the A list [for Team USA] after this. I probably wasn't on the A list to begin with, buy, hey, that's life."
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    Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

    Is there any combination of draft picks and young players that the Celtics could offer us that might entice us to give up JO. I don't think so, especially if Pierce is not involved.

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      Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

      Does Pierce even understand that any deal that brought a guy like that to the Celtics would include him?

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        Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

        Originally posted by Unclebuck
        Is there any combination of draft picks and young players that the Celtics could offer us that might entice us to give up JO. I don't think so, especially if Pierce is not involved.
        Indiana Trade Breakdown
        Outgoing
        Jermaine O'Neal
        6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
        20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
        Incoming
        Theo Ratliff
        6-10 C from Wyoming
        4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes
        Sebastian Telfair
        6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
        9.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.2 minutes
        Kendrick Perkins
        6-10 PF from Ozen (HS)
        5.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.6 minutes
        Al Jefferson
        6-10 PF from Prentiss (HS)
        7.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.0 minutes
        Gerald Green
        6-8 SF from Gulf Shores Academy (HS)
        5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.8 minutes
        Change in team outlook: +12.6 ppg, +9.9 rpg, and +3.6 apg.

        Boston Trade Breakdown
        Outgoing
        Theo Ratliff
        6-10 C from Wyoming
        4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes
        Sebastian Telfair
        6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
        9.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.2 minutes
        Kendrick Perkins
        6-10 PF from Ozen (HS)
        5.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.6 minutes
        Al Jefferson
        6-10 PF from Prentiss (HS)
        7.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.0 minutes
        Gerald Green
        6-8 SF from Gulf Shores Academy (HS)
        5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.8 minutes
        Incoming
        Jermaine O'Neal
        6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
        20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
        Change in team outlook: -12.6 ppg, -9.9 rpg, and -3.6 apg.


        Successful Scenario
        Due to Indiana and Boston being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and Boston had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.





        Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?

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        • #5
          Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

          JO would like to add Paul Pierce to the Pacers, too bad we live in the real world.


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          • #6
            Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

            Originally posted by Skaut_Ech
            Indiana Trade Breakdown
            Outgoing
            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....rmaine_ind.jpgJermaine O'Neal
            6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
            20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes


            Incoming
            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....f_Theo_por.jpgTheo Ratliff
            6-10 C from Wyoming
            4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes


            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....astian_por.jpgSebastian Telfair
            6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
            9.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.2 minutes


            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....ndrick_bos.jpgKendrick Perkins
            6-10 PF from Ozen (HS)
            5.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.6 minutes


            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....son_Al_bos.jpgAl Jefferson
            6-10 PF from Prentiss (HS)
            7.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.0 minutes


            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....Gerald_bos.jpgGerald Green
            6-8 SF from Gulf Shores Academy (HS)
            5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.8 minutes


            Change in team outlook: +12.6 ppg, +9.9 rpg, and +3.6 apg.

            Boston Trade Breakdown
            Outgoing
            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....f_Theo_por.jpgTheo Ratliff
            6-10 C from Wyoming
            4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes


            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....astian_por.jpgSebastian Telfair
            6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
            9.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.2 minutes


            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....ndrick_bos.jpgKendrick Perkins
            6-10 PF from Ozen (HS)
            5.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.6 minutes


            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....son_Al_bos.jpgAl Jefferson
            6-10 PF from Prentiss (HS)
            7.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.0 minutes


            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....Gerald_bos.jpgGerald Green
            6-8 SF from Gulf Shores Academy (HS)
            5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.8 minutes


            Incoming
            http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....rmaine_ind.jpgJermaine O'Neal
            6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
            20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes


            Change in team outlook: -12.6 ppg, -9.9 rpg, and -3.6 apg.


            Successful Scenario
            Due to Indiana and Boston being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and Boston had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.





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            • #7
              Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

              Originally posted by Skaut_Ech
              Indiana Trade Breakdown
              Outgoing
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....rmaine_ind.jpgJermaine O'Neal
              6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
              20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
              Incoming
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....f_Theo_por.jpgTheo Ratliff
              6-10 C from Wyoming
              4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....astian_por.jpgSebastian Telfair
              6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
              9.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.2 minutes
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....ndrick_bos.jpgKendrick Perkins
              6-10 PF from Ozen (HS)
              5.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.6 minutes
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....son_Al_bos.jpgAl Jefferson
              6-10 PF from Prentiss (HS)
              7.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.0 minutes
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....Gerald_bos.jpgGerald Green
              6-8 SF from Gulf Shores Academy (HS)
              5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.8 minutes
              Change in team outlook: +12.6 ppg, +9.9 rpg, and +3.6 apg.

              Boston Trade Breakdown
              Outgoing
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....f_Theo_por.jpgTheo Ratliff
              6-10 C from Wyoming
              4.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 23.7 minutes
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....astian_por.jpgSebastian Telfair
              6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
              9.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 3.6 apg in 24.2 minutes
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....ndrick_bos.jpgKendrick Perkins
              6-10 PF from Ozen (HS)
              5.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.0 apg in 19.6 minutes
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....son_Al_bos.jpgAl Jefferson
              6-10 PF from Prentiss (HS)
              7.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 18.0 minutes
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....Gerald_bos.jpgGerald Green
              6-8 SF from Gulf Shores Academy (HS)
              5.2 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.6 apg in 11.8 minutes
              Incoming
              http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4....rmaine_ind.jpgJermaine O'Neal
              6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
              20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
              Change in team outlook: -12.6 ppg, -9.9 rpg, and -3.6 apg.


              Successful Scenario
              Due to Indiana and Boston being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and Boston had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.












              Uh... that means... no thanks. Nice effort tho

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              • #8
                Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

                And I want a pet unicorn.

                Seriously though, the C's have enough young talent on rookie contracts that Bird would have to think about pulling the trigger if he was offered something like Al Jeff, Green, West, Wally and Ratliff for JO and Tinsley.
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                • #9
                  Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

                  If the Celts offered something like Jefferson, Green and Wally (he is still way overpaid isn't he?) for JO you'd have to think about it. Jefferson will be a monster eventually, Green's a huge athlete and you sure need a shooter. Of course Wally's shooting won't have as much impact unless this is Jefferson's breakout year - which it may be.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

                    West is the one we need.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

                      Green and Jefferson, throw in some salary..do it.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

                        I want an H3.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

                          That would give us wayyyy too many players.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

                            So...he;s thinking that the Celtics can add Iverson.....then wants to add another all-star like KG.....or JONeal?

                            Geez...what tradeable assets will the Celtics have after the get Iverson?

                            None......its nice to add One All-Star to your roster....but add another one on top of the one you already have? I think that Pierce is talking out of his @ss. There's reality...then there's the fantasyworld that Pierce lives in.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Paul Pierce would like to add JO to the Celtics

                              I think Chris Bosh would be an ideal fit with Pierce.

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