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Anthem
07-02-2006, 02:23 PM
Indy gives: Tinsley, Foster, and Jax
Indy gets: MoPete and Al Harrington

Toronto gives: MoPete and Humphries
Toronto gets: Josh Childress and Steven Jackson

Atlanta gives: Harrington (S&T) and Josh Childress
Atlanta gets: Tinsley, Foster, and Humphries

Analysis: We get Harrington and MoPete and get rid of our unpopular backcourt. Assuming no other moves (not a given), we'd run JO/Al/Granger/MoPete/AJ. Toronto essentially picks up a young prospect for free at a position where they're extremely needy. Atlanta loses Harrington (who they were going to lose anyway) but adds a decent veteran bigman, a bigman prospect, and a much-needed point guard.

The numbers work, and the logic works (I think) for all three teams.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Changed Josh Smith to Josh Childress.

SoupIsGood
07-02-2006, 02:24 PM
I don't think Atlanta would trade Smith.

Anthem
07-02-2006, 02:26 PM
I don't think Atlanta would trade Smith.
They wouldn't trade their backup swingman for two starters and a prospect?

I thought that was a pretty good deal for them.

SoupIsGood
07-02-2006, 02:28 PM
They wouldn't trade their backup swingman for Tinsley, Foster, and Humphries?

I thought that was a pretty good deal for them.

Smith is a backup? To who?

Trade their young, promising SF for trash, a backup C, and trash?

I don't think so. Not even Atlanta would do that.

Anthem
07-02-2006, 02:31 PM
Smith is a backup? To who?
If JJ plays the 2, then I'm assuming Smith would back up Childress.

You think they'd do the deal with Childress instead?

ESutt7
07-02-2006, 03:10 PM
Smith is their hope. He is their Danny Granger. No way they move him. He's a 4. Marvin Williams at the 3 won't be moved. They'd probably move Childress though. I like the deal for us, but we'd need another big guy.

Anthem
07-02-2006, 03:17 PM
Smith is their hope. He is their Danny Granger. No way they move him. He's a 4. Marvin Williams at the 3 won't be moved. They'd probably move Childress though. I like the deal for us, but we'd need another big guy.
Well, I obviously don't watch enough Hawks basketball. Okay, I've changed the thread.

Regarding another big guy, I honestly don't see where he'd play. This would be our lineup:

JO / Harrison
Al / Croshere
Granger / Williams
MoPete / White
AJ / Saras

We'd also have the option of re-signing Pollard and Freddy (both of which I'd do if the money was reasonable). We wouldn't be taking on any additional salary with the move, so we could still use our MLE without worrying about the luxury tax. You could throw that money at a big man or at a PG.

BoomBaby31
07-02-2006, 04:00 PM
Smith is a backup? To who?

Trade their young, promising SF for trash, a backup C, and trash?

I don't think so. Not even Atlanta would do that.

That would be good for us but, like Soup said "not even Atlanta would do that". To bad it wasn't Portland with those players, then we could get it done.

bulldog
07-02-2006, 05:37 PM
I don't think Toronto would take Jackson.

Then again, I don't think anyone in their right mind would take Jackson. But especially not Toronto, Colangelo's not an idiot.

kellogg
07-02-2006, 05:55 PM
Face it guys...name ONE team that would take Jackson off our hands. We should have known something was up when Popovich in San Antonio and Atlanta let him walk...

Swingman
07-03-2006, 12:13 AM
Indy gives: Tinsley, Foster, and Jax
Indy gets: MoPete and Al Harrington

Toronto gives: MoPete and Humphries
Toronot gets: Josh Smith and Steven Jackson

Atlanta gives: Harrington (S&T) and Josh Childress
Atlanta gets: Tinsley, Foster, and Humphries

Analysis: We get Harrington and MoPete and get rid of our unpopular backcourt. Assuming no other moves (not a given), we'd run JO/Al/Granger/MoPete/AJ. Toronto essentially picks up a young prospect for free at a position where they're extremely needy. Atlanta loses Harrington (who they were going to lose anyway) but adds a decent veteran bigman, a bigman prospect, and a much-needed point guard.

The numbers work, and the logic works (I think) for all three teams.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Changed Josh Smith to Josh Childress.

You still have Toronto getting Smith ;)

Anthem
07-03-2006, 09:11 AM
You still have Toronto getting Smith ;)
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Seriously, I think this makes sense. You could include AJ instead of Tinsley if that's what Atlanta wants.

Eindar
07-03-2006, 09:38 PM
I think this trade is dead now that Speedy Claxton is supposedly signing with Atlanta. They will have little use for our PGs.

Anthem
07-03-2006, 10:37 PM
I think this trade is dead now that Speedy Claxton is supposedly signing with Atlanta. They will have little use for our PGs.
Yep, I think you're right. Foster's still an attractive piece, but I'm not sure what else we could include that would be appealing.

SoupIsGood
07-04-2006, 01:18 AM
Well, I obviously don't watch enough Hawks basketball. Okay, I've changed the thread.


No one watches Hawks basketball, period. :D

Will Galen
07-05-2006, 10:25 AM
Pollard has to be resigned before we trade Foster, unless we get another guy that can play center in the trade.

Anthem
07-10-2006, 08:51 PM
Pollard has to be resigned before we trade Foster, unless we get another guy that can play center in the trade.
If you're going after Al Harrington, the assumption is that Jermaine will play center.