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FSU-IU
06-28-2006, 10:24 AM
First of all - hello to the board. I have only posted here once or twice (about a year ago), but read the board often.

Here is my take on this draft. As much as we read about Larry being in Europe (during the Artest trade saga especially)....I really think our draft pick in round 1 will be a European player (kinda helps justify Larry never beng around, no?). Otherwise, why is he spending so much time there? If it is simply scouting players, the Pacers pay other people to fill that role.

Just my gut thought......

FSU-IU

Leisure Suit Larry
06-28-2006, 10:36 AM
First of all - hello to the board. I have only posted here once or twice (about a year ago), but read the board often.

Here is my take on this draft. As much as we read about Larry being in Europe (during the Artest trade saga especially)....I really think our draft pick in round 1 will be a European player (kinda helps justify Larry never beng around, no?). Otherwise, why is he spending so much time there? If it is simply scouting players, the Pacers pay other people to fill that role.

Just my gut thought......

FSU-IU

I think he'll probably pick one in the 2nd round again to reach the level of excitement among fans that the Lorobek pick did last year. :rolleyes: There aren't any foreign players in the 1st worth taking really.

Young
06-28-2006, 10:39 AM
Yeah like LSU said there are no foregins worth taking in the 1rst round except maybe Thabo.

Maybe Bird thought Marko Thomas or Rudy Fernandez would be in the draft. I know Bird likes Marko especially.

Steve McQueen
06-28-2006, 11:50 AM
Thabo and Sergio are the only Euros worthy of pick #17 I believe. Neither exites me. Sergio is a Jason Williams knockoff, and Thabo I admit I know nothing about.

Skaut_Ech
06-28-2006, 02:25 PM
Speaking of Europeans and Bird scouting there, here's an artilce from almost exactly a year ago. What caught my eye is that Bird has HIS eye on three guys who I think ae going to be very good players in the NBA, Udrih, Krolve and Ukic. Makes ya wonder if down the road IF we make some kind of trade, one of those guys might be a part of it. I'd take any of the three as part of a deal.:

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/8589943

Draft has even Bird thinking international
June 23, 2005
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports

INDIANAPOLIS -- The Indiana Pacers ended this past season as one of
just two teams without an international player.

But as they head into Tuesday's NBA draft, even the Pacers are looking
overseas. Larry Bird, the team's president of basketball operations, says
Indiana is not focusing on a specific position but is looking for someone
who can help.



The Pacers, who have the 17th pick, have their sights on players
including Roko Ukic, a guard from Croatia; Yaroslav Korolev, a forward from Russia, and Fran Vazquez, a forward-center from Spain. But they could have plenty of competition.



The number of international players on opening-day rosters in the NBA
has risen from 29 in 1997 to 81 this past season. There were 20 foreign
players drafted last year, compared with nine in 1999 and three in 1994.
This year, a record seven international players competed in the NBA Finals.



With players such as Germany's Dirk Nowitzki, Serbia-Montenegro's Peja
Stojakovic, former rookie of the year Pau Gasol of Spain, three-time
All-Star Yao Ming of China and Russia's Andrei Kirilenko making immediate
impacts, teams say they can't afford to overlook overseas players.



"Everybody's so afraid of missing out on the next one," said new
Cleveland coach Mike Brown, a former Pacers assistant who inherits All-Star
center Zydrunas Ilgauskas of Lithuania with the Cavaliers.



This past season was a banner year for international players. The
league MVP, Steve Nash of the Phoenix Suns, hails from Canada. Nowitzki
finished third in the MVP voting after a dominant season for the Dallas
Mavericks. The San Antonio Spurs start three players born outside the
continental U.S. -- Tim Duncan of the U.S. Virgin Islands, Manu Ginobili of
Argentina and Tony Parker of France.



That level of foreign participation was unheard of 25 years ago. When
Bird was a rookie for the Boston Celtics in 1979, there were six
international players in the league.



Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh said much has changed in his 19 years at the
team's helm.



"I think we always looked, but not to the extent we do now," Walsh
said. "But we were always familiar with the European market."



International players can warm a bench as they gain experience -- or
change a franchise.



Before Gasol arrived in Memphis in 2001, the Grizzlies never had been
to the playoffs. Gasol averaged 17.6 points a game and was the league's top rookie despite his team's 23-59 record. He averaged 19 points a game his second year as Memphis won five more games.



The Grizzlies went 50-32 in Gasol's third year and made the playoffs
for the first time in franchise history.



That's the kind of player NBA scouts can't afford to miss.



Joe Ash, the Pacers' director of scouting, already has made five trips
to Europe this year, including three with Bird. In July, Ash will travel to
Moscow for a European 20-and-under tournament to see players from 16
countries, then head to Argentina for the FIBA World Championships for Young
Men.



The Pacers employ two foreign-born scouts. Nedilijko "Misho"
Ostarcevic is from Croatia and splits his time between Europe and the
western United States. Alexsandar Pajovic has a home in Belgrade,
Serbia-Montenegro, and spends much of his time scouting European basketball.



They meet plenty of NBA colleagues at every stop.



Ash said he sees as many scouts at European tournaments as at major
college games in the United States. He said more than 50 NBA representatives attended the Euroleague Final Four May 6-8 in Moscow.



"These guys aren't coming out of nowhere anymore," Indiana coach Rick
Carlisle said. "People know who the good people are, what teams they're on,
what their contract situations are."



The Pacers have plenty of experience with foreign talent. Center Rik
Smits of the Netherlands, who played from 1988-2000, is the franchise's
second-leading scorer. Detlef Schrempf, a forward from Germany, ranks 10th in career scoring after playing for Indiana from 1988-1993.



Indiana would have had a foreign player last season if it hadn't lost
Slovenia's Primoz Brezec to Charlotte in the expansion draft. The 7-foot-1
center averaged a career-high 13 points per game for the Bobcats.



The Pacers liked Beno Udrih in the draft last year, but the Spurs -- a
team Cleveland's Brown calls the league's best at snapping up international
talent -- nabbed the Slovenian one pick before the Pacers could get him.



Ash said scouting foreign talent is a necessity, not an option.



"You have to," he said. "Not going would just be ignoring a large
segment of the talent pool."


AP NEWS
The Associated Press News Service

grace
06-28-2006, 03:06 PM
Otherwise, why is he spending so much time there? Just my gut thought......

FSU-IU

My gut tells me it's an all expense paid for by season ticket holders vacation.










(I have a vindictive and petty gut.)

FrenchConnection
06-28-2006, 03:23 PM
Expensive smoke screen

bulldog
06-28-2006, 04:10 PM
Secound round. Get someone and let him sit over there a few years to see if he develops.