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Jose Slaughter
06-05-2006, 05:30 AM
Here is how the Pacer Digest NBA Draft has played out so far, with the number of votes the player received as well as total votes.

1. Toronto ------ LaMarcus Aldridge ---- 16 of 48
2. Chicago ------ Tyrus Thomas -------- 22 of 39
3. Charlotte ----- Adam Morrison ------- 19 of 32
4. Portland ------ Brandon Roy --------- 13 of 39
5. Atlanta ------- Andrea Bargnani ----- 24 of 45
6. Minnesota ---- Rudy Gay ------------ 19 of 21

With the 7th pick, the Boston Celtics

Player info provided by NBADraft.net http://www.nbadraft.net/index.asp

Tiago Splitters info supplied by Draft Express.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?mod=pprof&p=25

Centers

Patrick O'Bryant 7-0, 250 So.
Strengths: Classic late bloomer ... Bigman with excellent upside ... Huge frame with extremely long arms (likely close to 7-6 wingspan) ... Very good agility for a 7 footer, light on his feet ... Not afraid of contact, good strength and improving rapidly ... Runs the court and moves very well, also quick getting into transition ... Should be able to carry another 20-30 pounds ... Great shot blocker, doesn't get overzealous. Can block a lot of shots without jumping ... Excellent rebounder ... Has good touch on his shot, solid free throw shooter ... Works hard to establish position under the basket ... Has developed some solid post moves ... Displays good footwork ... Has a very good turnaround jump hook ... Soft hands on rebounds.

Weaknesses: Needs to get bigger, stronger, tougher ... Still growing into his body, gets banged around due to lack of body strength, but he's working hard in the weight room to improve upon it and showing great progress ... Bigmen take the longest to develop ... He's still getting used to his body and learning what he's capable of ... Body balance is weak, will improve in time with added strength ... Not a tremendous leaper, but above average for a 7 footer ... Must get nastier on the court, develop a killer instinct.

Saer Sene 7-0, 235 1986
Strengths: An absolutely jaw dropping physical specimen with his combination of size, length, strength, athleticism and mobility ... Very disruptive defensively and rebounds the ball well ... Has a 7'8" wingspan making him a force as a shot blocker ... Already getting playing time at the Senior level for Pepinster and getting decent minutes and stats ... Runs the floor well ... Great hands, has no problems catching the ball or rebounding ... Extremely agile, he can fall down on the court like a cat, not heavily like most big man ... Very coach-able and a hard working kid.

Weaknesses: Still doesn't have much offensive game to speak of ... Only began playing basketball in 2003 so he's still learning the game ... Must continue working hard to maximize his great potential.

Aaron Gray 7-0, 270 Jr.
Strengths: Late bloomer who showed incredible improvement in his junior season ... At 7-0, 270 pounds, Gray has tremendous size and strength ... Rebounds the ball very well, his best attribute ... Also has above average passing ability ... Has developed some effective moves in near the basket ... Through hard work has shown excellent progress in his body, mobility and game ... Shows solid fundamentals and good mechanics shooting the ball ... Free throw shooting stll just average but showing steady improvement ... Uses his body well to create shots, enjoys contact. Has good toughness ... Plays to his strengths rebounding and scoring on put backs.

Weaknesses: Lacks great agility and body control ... Struggles coordinating his feet on drives to the basket and in transition ... Lacks great touch and range on his shot. FG% far below where it needs to be for a center ... Turnover prove, doesn't have great ability to protect the basketball ... Slow foot speed and lateral quickness ... Plays better in the half court set ... Not a big leaper ... Struggles offensively against athletic shot blockers ... Decent shot blocker due to his size, but does not get great lift, and wont be a huge shot blocker on the next level.

Power Forwards

Cedric Simmons 6-10, 233 So.
Strengths: Talented bigman with great length and fluidity ... Tremendous shot blocker due to his huge wingspan (7'4") and quick leaping ability ... Disruptive and active defensively ... Has the size to play center and power forward on the next level ... Uses back to the basket post moves and is showing great progress in his ability to score posting up ... Has developed an effective jump hook ... Displays solid toughness inside. Does not shy away from contact ... Plays hard, good energy ... Terrific rebounder due to his long arms and leaping ability ... Has great hands ... Very fast in the open court, great transition player ... Tremendous feet, his foot speed allows him to rebound out of position and cover a lot of ground defensively ... His body is on it's way. When he adds another 10-15 pounds, he's going to be very tough to contend with inside ... Attacks the basket well ... Has good touch around the basket ... Solid free throw shooter who showed great improvement from his freshman year ... Still very raw, but has great upside and a willingness to work hard to improve ... Vision and passing skills are above average for a post.

Weaknesses: Still developing offensively ... Lacks great range and a consistent jump shot from any distance ... Offensive game is still a work in progress ... Shows excellent flashes, but lacks any real go-to moves ... Strength is not a major issue, but he should get stronger to become more effective inside on the next level ... Consistency will improve with experience ... Not a great ball handler. Lacks a real face the basket game, but has the shooting touch to add 12-15 foot jumpshot ... His court sense and feel for the game can improve.

Sheldon Williams 6-9, 250 Sr.
Strengths: Burly power forward with a no nonsense approach ... Great experience, 4 years at Duke has given him a strong foundation with a great skill level and solid fundamentals ... Hard worker who has developed a reputation as a great kid ... Extremely strong body ... Deceptively quick and athletic ... Sticks to playing in the post, where he dominates on the NCAA level ... Tremendous wingspan allows him to play like a 7 footer ... A real defensive presence, a shot blocker who won national defensive player of the year as a junior ... Averages close to 4 blocks per game as a senior ... Should be able to guard centers in the NBA ... Great rebounding ability, boxes out well ... Understands how to defend, has become disciplined (blocks a ton of shots without fouling out very often) ... Range on his jumpshot has shown improvement through hard work, along with his free throw shooting ... Fairly consistent out to 12-15 feet ... Posts up well and uses his strength well to score ... His post moves have really developed well in his 4 years at Duke, including hooks and drop steps ... Touch around the basket is good and converts well after contact.

Weaknesses: Rigid. Williams lacks great fluidity running the floor, his movements could be described as stiff or mechanical ... Lacks the ability to improvise much in the open floor: catching and dribbling/passing before a shot, he's a lot more comfortable with set plays or crashing the glass ... Offensive game may be limited on next level due to lack of spontaneity (the Duke computer chip in his head runs best in half court set) ... Lacks great vision or passing ability ... His body is very rigid partly due to his muscle mass ... High school incident not considered indicative of his true character, especially after Duke retained his scholarship. He's been a model citizen ever since (accusation) and comes from strong family background ... Has given up a number of big games to post players as a senior, partly due to Duke's perimeter defensive approach.

Tiago Splitter 7-0, 245 1985
Strengths:Splitter measured out at 6’11 ¾ two years ago at the Chicago pre-draft camp, 7 feet for all intents and purposes if he hasn’t grown since then, displaying a nice (although not great) 7’2 wingspan, and an impressive 9’1.5 standing reach. He also possesses a very solid frame that will allow him to carefully continue to add the weight if needed and allow him to handle either frontcourt position, even if he looks a bit thin right now. That process of adding strength, if properly done, shouldn’t interfere with what is one of Splitter’s main assets at this point, his quickness. Splitter excels moving around the court, whether running the break or in shorter efforts in the set offense or defense. It’s not only a matter of capability, but also of willingness, as he consistently shows great intensity playing the game. It helps that he is also is a highly coordinated athlete with excellent reflexes who always seems to maintain great balance.

Weaknesses: Despite the status that Splitter has reached in Europe, he has his fair share of flaws. The most obvious and noticeable is his poor shooting. Rather ironically, since Splitter based part of his game on his shooting when he arrived in Spain some years back, the tremendous emphasis put on developing him as a post player, as well as his own discipline taking orders, has virtually removed the habit and confidence in his shooting touch. It’s looking so ugly that he can be wide-open in the mid-range area and still pass the ball to a guarded teammate, hurting his team’s offensive game in the process. Still, when he plays for Brazil, he might be seen shooting the ball from the perimeter at times, although less frequently than he used to. His mechanics don’t really look that bad. He’s a bit slow releasing the ball, but considering that he’s a 7-footer, this is to be expected. It’s basically a problem of confidence, and it has been translated to the free-throw line too, where he struggles to get decent accuracy, even if he’s improving a little bit lately. He’s reportedly working very hard on his shot, and should be able to shake the rust off and recover some of the touch he once had in a situation where he enjoys more freedom to evolve in the offensive end.

Small Forwards

Rodney Carney 6-7, 205 Sr.
Strengths: Highlight reel waiting to happen ... One of the most athletic players in all of college basketball … Jump shot has improved ... Big upside… Long and lean … Very versatile… Great elevation on jumper which is nearly impossible to block… Confident… Good poise … Pesky defender … Blankets defenders with his long arms and quick feet… Anticipates well and plays the passing lanes for steals ... Really gets up and grabs rebounds … Excellent speed and quickness.

Weaknesses: Needs to add strength, put time in the weight room and bulk up some ... Can be prone to taking bad shots at times … Forces shots … Must become better at handling the ball and creating offense for himself ... Settles with the outside shot instead of trying to get something easier … Lacks great vision and passing ability ... Needs to shoot with more consistency… Can be too reliant on his athleticism ... Needs to get a little tougher on the court ... Too right hand dependent, needs to become better at handling with his left hand.

Shawne Williams 6-9, 225 Fr.
Strengths: Has tremendous versatility, at 6-9 Shawne can play from the 1-thru-4 positions ... Advanced offensive game, really understands how to play ... Great one on one skills offensively ... Great vision, passing skills ... Good ball handler, almost second nature ... Can create for himself or others off the dribble drive ... Consistent jump shot, with range out to three point ... A highlight reel waiting to happen ... Extremely long wingspan makes him a terrific rebounder and shot blocker ... Good competitor, doesn't back down from a challenge, as he showed squaring off with Adam Morrison after being pushed ... His body is not far from being NBA ready.

Weaknesses: Low-release point on his jumper could cause problems at the next level ... Will need to develop better defensive technique, more intensity ... Quickness is very good, but won't stand out on the next level ... Still must add strength and conditioning.

Marcus Vinicius 6-9, 220 1984
Strengths: A natural born offensive player, Marcus can do anything with the ball. Has a perfect shot, shooting from the 3-pt line or the perimeter. With his size, can shoot over anyone and his long arms provide a high release point. Has all the fundaments of the game, can pass, dribble, play post-up, penetrate the boards and his ball-handling is very strong for a men of his size. Runs the floor like a 6-3 guy, with spectacular agility and he excels in the fast break situation. Already has a good leaping ability and his body hasn't fully developed so it can improve.

Weaknesses: Defense; he has a lot to learn defensively. Doesn't seem to enjoy playing defense and will have to improve his intensity and effort here. Also must gain some strength and bulk to contend with NBA players. Sometimes looks lost and has bouts of inconsistency, but his knowledge and feel for the game will improve as he gains experience. He's still learning the game but with international experience (Italian league), in three years Marcus could be a top 3 International prospect.


Shooting Guards

J.J. Redick 6-4, 190 Sr.
Strengths: One of the purest shooters anywhere ... Redick has a beautiful outside stroke that creates fear in the eyes of opponents ... He possesses incredible range and routinely takes shots well beyond the three point line. He's a player that you simply can't leave open anywhere within the area code of the basket ... He has also added a deadly mid range game to his repertoire, with the ability to create shots for himself with ball fakes and the dribble drive … Unbelievable at rolling off screens and hitting the open J ... Redick has picture perfect form, a lightning quick release and gets great elevation on his shot. He is also automatic from the free throw line ... Has a killer instinct and seems to step his game up in clutch situations ... Never appears tired, has great conditioning and work ethic.

Weaknesses: Doesn't have great size or athleticism for the 2 at the next level ... He doesn't possess the ball handling or passing skills to run the point … He can be streaky at times, but he's on more often than not … His defense will also need work as he lacks both size and strength ... Must prove he can score against elite level athletes ... Not a freak athlete, but his quickness and agility is better than it looks.

Ronnie Brewer 6-7, 217 Jr.
Strengths: 2 guard with great versatility ... Very intriguing because of his ability to run the show from the point guard position ... Has good leadership abilities ... Creates well off the dribble with a quick first step ... Elevates his teammates play with his passing ability ... Excellent vision, creating easy baskets for open teammates ... Thoroughbred type of athlete, very strong frame, think legs, extremely fast in the open floor ... Long arms and quick hands make him a defensive nightmare ... Great rebounder at the guard position ... Aggressive defender ... Anticipates passes well and forces a ton of steals with his on ball pressure ... Has range out to college three with good accuracy ... Has a great feel for the game which comes from being around basketball his whole life.

Weaknesses: A childhood water slide accident left him with a small bone protruding from his triceps area which has created an abnormal shooting form ... Not a great spot up shooter, makes most of his shots moving towards the basket, a rhythm shooter ... Much quicker than he is athletic, wont wow you with monster dunks, but not a bad leaper ... Mostly effective with the ball in his hands, so some feel he must dominate the ball to be effective.

Maurice Ager 6-4, 202 Sr.
Strengths: One of the most explosive athletes in the college game ... Consistently raises his level of play in big games, great competitor ... Excellent all around scorer ... Good outside shooter with range out to three point ... Creates well off the dribble with terrific ball handling ability ... Strong one on one skills, has a nose for scoring ... Good at slashing to the basket and finishing ... Great speed and quickness in the open floor ... Aggressive player who gets to the line often and converts his FTs at a good clip. Averaged over 90% as a senior in high school ... Excellent body control, can get some spectacular ally oops and put backs when crashing the glass ... Excellent rebounder at the guard position, not afraid of contact ... Long wingspan and good hands ... Plays sound defense and his foot speed can create problems for opponents ... Hard worker who has shown steady improvement over his 4 years at Michigan St. ...

Weaknesses: Undersized at 6-4 for the 2guard position but has long arms and great athleticism to make up for it ... Vision and passing ability is average ... Should focus on becoming a better defender. Seems to give more effort towards scoring ... Doesn't pick up many steals defensively ... Can be too aggressive shooting outside but will keep shooting through a slump ... Body strength has gotten better but could be improved upon to absorb contact inside.

Point Guards

Randy Foye 6-3, 205 Sr.
Strengths: Talented lead guard ... Has persevered through a rough upbringing (losing both parents young) and shows great hunger and toughness because of it ... Excellent one on one player ... Has a bag of tricks offensively with crossovers and AND1 type moves ... Uses change of direction well to get his defenders off balance ... Plays well in an open court game with great speed and body control ... Handles the ball effortlessly ... Strong finisher capable of taking the ball all the way to the rack in traffic ... Very strong body able to physically overpower opponents ... Picture perfect high release and high arc on his shot ... Hard worker, his outside shot has shown steady improvement ... Capable of big time scoring outbursts ... Adept at shooting with just an inch of daylight ...Strong defender, very aggressive looking for steals on the ball and on passes ... Great leadership ability ... Excellent maturity ... Has excellent size/strength for the point guard position ... Quality free throw shooter.

Weaknesses: Some consider him more of a combo than a true point guard ... Isn't a natural at setting the table and running the show as a point guard but has shown improvement in that area ... With Lowry playing the point, some of his deficiencies are covered up ... His passing ability is decent, but not great for a point guard ... Can be too aggressive at times offensively forcing bad shots ... Aggressiveness defensively can lead to foul problems, he can also get caught gambling for steals.

Marcus Williams 6-2, 200 Jr.
Strengths: Williams has improved tremendously since his freshman year when he veraged 9.6 points, 3.8 rebounds, and 7.8 assists in 31 minutes/game ... He has a great "feel" for the game, something he didn't show freshman year ... A tremendous passer who led the entire nation in assists per game at 8.1 ... He controls the tempo of the game as well as any guard in the Big East ... He displays a good right hand, finishing fairly well on drives with it, though he is naturally left-handed ... His three-point shooting percentage rose over 20% last season to a respectable 40% ... He's a threat from the outside now which allows him to penetrate and dish or finish more often ... When big men challenge him in the paint, he uses a crafty floater/tear drop type of shot that he has really perfected ... He is practically unstoppable in the open court because his decision making is so quick and precise ... Whether it is pulling up for the jumper if his man plays off him or hitting a wing player filling the lane, Williams makes the appropriate decision ... He has a killer crossover that he uses to get by his man on the perimeter and is athletic, getting good lift on his jumper ... Defensively he does a good job staying in front of his man and limiting drives, he averages 1.1 stl/game …Williams was productive as a freshman where he average 4.3/game assists in only 14 minutes/game.

Weaknesses: One of the main things Williams needs to work on is his turnovers ... Though he makes the right decision on the break, oftentimes he turns the ball over after drive in the lane while trying to feed teammates ... Actually needs to be more selfish at times, especially late in games when teammates are struggling ... Some of the bigger concerns with Williams is his off the court behavior. He only played in 16 games as a freshmen for failing to qualify academically and missed playing in UConn's championship run. Also, more recently, Williams and fellow UConn guard A.J. Price allegedly stole 10 laptop computers from UConn dorm rooms. There could be serious repercussions from such allegations ... Williams needs to keep his focus on basketball if he is going to continue to become the star player that he showed the potential to become last season.

Mardy Collins 6-6, 205 Sr.
Strengths: At 6-6 he's got the ability to run the show from the point guard position ... Very smooth offensive abilities ... Plays a controlled game, doesn't try to be too flashy or make spectacular plays, keeps it simple and effective ... Excellent vision and passing ... Shooting mechanics and fundamentals are very good ... Good ball handler ... Long arms help out with closing passing lanes and getting to the rim ... Good defender coming out of the Temple system which emphasizes defense ... Excellent at anticipating passes, ball hawking style ... Great team player, excellent versatility ... Extremely durable player, plays almost 40 minutes every game, and rarely if ever misses a start.

Weaknesses: Never a bigtime scorer, although the Temple system limits him somewhat in that regard ... Shooting %s have never been great from outside, although these numbers get hurt by collapsing defenses and forced shots taken with the shot clock running low ... Lacks a very athletic body, especially on appearance ... Not a very physical player, should use his size advantage better offensively ... Not a huge leaper, lacks great explosiveness or a devastating first step ... Upside is decent, but not off the charts ... One of those guys who is solid in a number of areas, but fails to stand out in any one area ... Must become better at moving without the ball, can be a little too ball dependant ... Free throw shooting is below average.

Skaut_Ech
06-05-2006, 08:16 AM
Here's Boston's roster as it stands:

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Brian Scalabrine (http://hoopshype.com/players/brian_scalabrine.htm)
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Whadda ya see? Yup, a hole at C behind Perkins (whom I hear they aren't real thrilled with.) and mediocrity at PG.

So, a C or a PG. PG seems to be a more glaring need, to me.

Like I said in another thread, I think Williams is too much of a wild card in basketball IQ and play. I think a more reliable pick would be Mardy Collins. He's who I think they should target, by dropping a few notches in the draft, getting something extra from another team and still be able to snag Collins or Rondo .

Now saying that, I think they'll grab Williams. Given where their team is, age-wise, I think they need someone with more maturity and intelligence, but he may be too appealing for them to pass up.

Slick Pinkham
06-05-2006, 08:33 AM
I think Ainge is always out to get the best young player and then look to balance the roster by trades if necessary. That's why I think that he will take Carney even though Paul and Wally would seem to have the 2 & 3 locked down. Wally then may be packaged (if his knee is healthy) for a PG or C.

Young
06-05-2006, 11:13 AM
I think that they will take Rodney Carney because as pacertom said Ainge always seems to be out to get the best young player avaliable.

I don't think that point guard is a huge need. I thought the Celtics really liked Delonte West at the point, so I don't think they will take Marcus Williams but they still could of course.

I thought of voting for Tiago Splitter or Sheldan Williams. I think both of those guys are also possiable picks for the Celtics.

Skaut_Ech
06-05-2006, 12:39 PM
Speaking of Delonte, the feeling I got all year was that they found him adequate, but want more from the position. Late in the year he had a little spurt, so maybe they're re-thinking things. Interestingly enough, I seem to remember Bird raving about Delonte around draft time.

Jose Slaughter
06-05-2006, 01:28 PM
A couple thoughts.

First, I think the top 6 guys we selected are about right. The order won't be the same as we have them but I think we have the right half dozen guys so far.

Second, about Delonte West. I think the Celtics like him as their starter but the way I was reading things, they want to bring in a vet as a backup. That would mean they most likely would not draft a point guard. They also have Dan Dickau on their roster..... I wonder how he would look in blue & gold?

Leisure Suit Larry
06-05-2006, 01:32 PM
Is Splitter even in the draft this year?

JayRedd
06-05-2006, 02:03 PM
I'd take Carney. I think Ainge will go for Marcus Williams though, which should also work out well. Then they can trade Delonte or use him more at the two and as a change of pace point.

Jermaniac
06-05-2006, 02:36 PM
WTF are they going to take another SF for? They already have Pierce and Green? They need a center more then anything.

brs14ku
06-05-2006, 03:13 PM
Why is nobody talking about PF here. Al Jefferson is good, that much is true, but Ryan Gomes as a backup PF...seriously lacking I think. That said I think they SHOULD go for Bryant. I think they WILL go for Williams.

JayRedd
06-05-2006, 03:45 PM
Why is nobody talking about PF here. Al Jefferson is good, that much is true, but Ryan Gomes as a backup PF...seriously lacking I think. That said I think they SHOULD go for Bryant. I think they WILL go for Williams.

Gomes showed that he can be a potential starter in this league during the 2nd Half last year.

After the All Star break he averaged 12.6 ppg, 7.6 rpg and shot 50.7% from the floor once he was given 33.8 mins per game. He also had eight double-doubles over a 26-game stretch. In comparison, we paid $20 million to a PF that had 19 double-doubles in the 47 games he played last year.

I didn't get to see a lot of the C's last season, but Gomes was the best post player in the Big East during his last two years in college. With Al Jeff, Gomes and Perkins, the Celts have a good, young nucleus of bigs. Perkins is a big boy, but none are true centers, though, so Ainge may still be thinking of going big.

Robertmto
06-05-2006, 05:19 PM
I think they go for Shelden Williams here, the shake up of the draft. He's a proven defensive player (2 time DPOY in college). And he also can score when needed. He's one the quicker big men as well and he has the will to win.

Pig Nash
06-05-2006, 08:31 PM
I'm picking the SF because they took Gerald Green instead of Danny Granger. Why???

Pig Nash
06-05-2006, 08:32 PM
Why is nobody talking about PF here. Al Jefferson is good, that much is true, but Ryan Gomes as a backup PF...seriously lacking I think. That said I think they SHOULD go for Bryant. I think they WILL go for Williams.

Ryan Gomes as a backup is seriously lacking? I think your drug dealer's supply of crack is seriously lacking.

Jose Slaughter
06-05-2006, 11:04 PM
I'm picking the SF because they took Gerald Green instead of Danny Granger. Why???

I hope, I really hope your tounge is firmly planted in your cheek.

I'm pretty sure that it was because Granger was off the board when the Celtics picked last year.

Robertmto
06-05-2006, 11:24 PM
I'm picking the SF because they took Gerald Green instead of Danny Granger. Why???

Danny Granger went 17th, Green went 18th.

Young
06-05-2006, 11:34 PM
Danny Granger went 17th, Green went 18th. Heres your sign.

Fixed.

Pig Nash
06-05-2006, 11:51 PM
I hope, I really hope your tounge is firmly planted in your cheek.

I'm pretty sure that it was because Granger was off the board when the Celtics picked last year.

It was. I figured one of the grangerites would come in and agree with me.

PacerPerspective
06-06-2006, 12:02 AM
They definitely need a center so O'Bryant is perfect....

Ron who?
06-06-2006, 01:38 AM
Randy Foye, Marcus Williams, or O'bryant....

they need a center or a PG.. i believe they need a PG more though

thats why i chose Foye

Robertmto
06-06-2006, 01:44 AM
I don't think O'Bryant is the type of center they need. He's more of a finesse big man, they need a big body to take up the lane or at least a big man that can block or pplay one on one D. That's why I say they take Shelden Williams.

Fireball Kid
06-06-2006, 02:58 AM
Patrick O'Bryant is my vote.

Since86
06-06-2006, 11:43 AM
I don't think O'Bryant is the type of center they need. He's more of a finesse big man, they need a big body to take up the lane or at least a big man that can block or pplay one on one D. That's why I say they take Shelden Williams.

One problem. Shelden Williams isn't a center. He's only 6'9", so you'd have a another player small for his position that already includes Jefferson and Gomes. Not to mention they're pathetic centers already.

If you're saying they need a big body, wouldn't Gray be the more obvious choice seeing how he's 3inches taller and outweighs Shelden by 20lbs.?

Frank Slade
06-06-2006, 11:52 AM
Is Splitter even in the draft this year?
No he has pulled his name out , and will stay overseas for one more year....

brs14ku
06-06-2006, 12:41 PM
Ryan Gomes as a backup is seriously lacking? I think your drug dealer's supply of crack is seriously lacking.


I'm picking the SF because they took Gerald Green instead of Danny Granger. Why???

Huh? you try and make a joke about me being a crackhead but if you read your writing again you say my reasoning is poor because of a LACK of crack? WTF? and then you are the one that ends up sounding like an idiot in the Green instead of Granger comment.

Anyway, I mean seriously lacking because Gomes isn't a prototypical PF IMO. 6'7" 250 is big, but not quite the height I think most teams want in the post. Sure Big Al is only 6'8" but I don't think he has done that well either. If you want 18pts and 10 rebs out of 48 minutes of play from your PF's than I guess you can settle on this rotation. IMO with guys like Pierce and Sczerbiak that are going to eat up a heavy amount of shots, you would be better off with some big time rebounders. That is why they ranked 26th in the league in Rebounding last year. They need some guys to tear down some boards on a consistent basis. Gomes, with the exception of a couple big outbursts was picking up 5 or 6 in 30-35 minutes. Yes he is young and of course can develop but I don't think he is far away from his peak if he has not already reached it.

Pig Nash
06-06-2006, 12:42 PM
Read the thread, I was kidding but didn't use enough smilies.

sig
06-06-2006, 03:52 PM
I voted for O'Bryant but think they will trade the 7 pick for a vet PG.

JayRedd
06-06-2006, 04:44 PM
I voted for O'Bryant but think they will trade the 7 pick for a vet PG.

Tinsley is a vet ;)

Slick Pinkham
06-06-2006, 04:50 PM
Tinsley & #17 for #7 & Scalabrine & Dickau (just to match salaries)

:thumbsup:

Leisure Suit Larry
06-06-2006, 05:34 PM
Tinsley & #17 for #7 & Scalabrine & Dickau (just to match salaries)

:thumbsup:

That would be awesome. I like Tinsley but the #7 and Dickau? I like it.

CableKC
06-06-2006, 06:06 PM
Interesting that no PGs have been chosen so far and the Celtics apparently need an upgrade / depth at the PG and C positions.

I would go for Williams or O'Bryant at this point.

For the same argument that I used for the Hawks......I will go with Marcus Williams....if they need help at the C position....they can always go after a cheap one in Free Agency.

Ron who?
06-06-2006, 07:43 PM
Tinsley & #17 for #7 & Scalabrine & Dickau (just to match salaries)

:thumbsup:


somebodies gotta make that happen cuz tinsleys gotta go..

Robertmto
06-07-2006, 12:44 AM
One problem. Shelden Williams isn't a center. He's only 6'9", so you'd have a another player small for his position that already includes Jefferson and Gomes. Not to mention they're pathetic centers already.

If you're saying they need a big body, wouldn't Gray be the more obvious choice seeing how he's 3inches taller and outweighs Shelden by 20lbs.?

He can defend bigger bodies tho, and he can play the 4 while LaFraentz on the floor. And give 10-15 mins a night playin the backup centers