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rexnom
05-30-2006, 12:33 AM
I'm as much against trading JO as the next guy but IF we were going to trade him, how about with the Bulls, who need the low-post presence and are under the cap.

No trade machine on this because I don't know exactly how I would like this to work out.

I would definitely want Hinrich and their number 2 pick. After that i don't know. I guess we could include Jack (as a salary/player dump) and ask them to include Gordon. Or we could ask them to include Nocioni or Deng as our backup 3s.

Since the Bulls are under the cap, they can absorb JO's contract fairly easy.

microwave_oven
05-30-2006, 12:53 AM
Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
Jeff Foster
6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes
David Harrison
7-0 C from Colorado
5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.4 minutes
#17 Pick
0-0 from
No games yet played in 2005/06
Incoming
Tyson Chandler
7-1 C from Dominguez (HS)
5.3 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.9 minutes
Andres Nocioni
6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign)
13.0 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.3 minutes
Ben Gordon
6-3 SG from Connecticut
16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes
Othella Harrington
6-9 PF from Georgetown
4.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 11.5 minutes
Kirk Hinrich
6-3 PG from Kansas
15.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 6.3 apg in 36.5 minutes
#2 Pick
0-0 from
No games yet played in 2005/06
Change in team outlook: +24.0 ppg, +1.3 rpg, and +8.6 apg.


Chicago Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Tyson Chandler
7-1 C from Dominguez (HS)
5.3 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.9 minutes
Andres Nocioni
6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign)
13.0 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.3 minutes
Ben Gordon
6-3 SG from Connecticut
16.9 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 3.0 apg in 31.1 minutes
Othella Harrington
6-9 PF from Georgetown
4.8 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 0.5 apg in 11.5 minutes
Kirk Hinrich
6-3 PG from Kansas
15.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 6.3 apg in 36.5 minutes
#2 Pick
0-0 from
No games yet played in 2005/06
Incoming
Jermaine O'Neal
6-11 PF from Eau Claire (HS)
20.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 2.6 apg in 35.3 minutes
Jeff Foster
6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes
David Harrison
7-0 C from Colorado
5.8 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 15.4 minutes
#17 Pick
0-0 from
No games yet played in 2005/06
Change in team outlook: -24.0 ppg, -1.3 rpg, and -8.6 apg.



Successful Scenario
Due to Indiana and Chicago being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and Chicago had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.



This trade makes me laugh.....DON'T TRADE JO!!!!!

rexnom
05-30-2006, 12:55 AM
That's too many players anyways...

microwave_oven
05-30-2006, 01:05 AM
How else are ou going to trade JO to chicago? unlesswe could get Mark Prior :chin:

rexnom
05-30-2006, 01:24 AM
How else are ou going to trade JO to chicago? unlesswe could get Mark Prior :chin:
The point was not for us to give up many players but for Chicago to give up three, four players.

Robertmto
05-30-2006, 03:12 AM
Why would Chicago give up 4 of their best 5 players AND the #2 pick for JO and basically no one else??? No deals.

rexnom
05-30-2006, 04:45 AM
Why would Chicago give up 4 of their best 5 players AND the #2 pick for JO and basically no one else??? No deals.
Agree. I think a more logical trade would be Nocioni, the 2, and Hinrich. Although I don't know if I want to be left weak in the post. Just saying IF we want to trade JO.

microwave_oven
05-30-2006, 12:22 PM
Agree. I think a more logical trade would be Nocioni, the 2, and Hinrich. Although I don't know if I want to be left weak in the post. Just saying IF we want to trade JO.

Okay...the Bulls have cap space, but not that kind of cap space. The reason why so many players are involved, is because that is how many it would take to include JO. He simply makes too much. You will need at least 3 or 4 players from Chicago just so they can get JO.

brs14ku
05-30-2006, 02:26 PM
I don't think they would even give us Hinrich for JO. Maybe the #2 pick and someone else for him and Jack, but I doubt Hinrich would be moved. Same with Gordon.

Robertmto
05-30-2006, 03:08 PM
I don't even think they want JO. They would rather use the #2 pick on a big man like Thomas, Aldridge, or Bargnani. They are younger and cost alot less on the cap.

Redneck #007
05-30-2006, 07:57 PM
No way the Bulls give up Gordon or Hinrich for JO or even JAX included.