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Kingsfanbmiller
05-20-2006, 08:24 PM
Bonzi gets S&Ted to Indiana on a 5 year deal(team option for the 5th year) starting at 8 million. The Pacers also get a first round pick(edit: forgot to say who it was from, thanks for pointing it out) from Sacramento.


This Trade Succeeded! Go back (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine?teams=23~11~7&players=515~901~378~396~557~167~2383~936&sendto=23~11~7~7~11~7~23~7&from=7~23~11~11~7~11~11~23) to adjust your trade or start over (http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trademachine).
http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/teamlogos/nba/sml/trans/sac.gif Sacramento Kings



<TABLE class=tablehead style="CLEAR: both" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=colhead><TH colSpan=2>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width=35>http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nba/profiles/players/35x48/3400.jpg</TD><TD vAlign=top>Kenyon Martin
Salary: $10,886,364 Years Remaining: 5
PTS: 12.9 REB: 6.3 AST: 1.4 PER: 16.75
</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width=35>http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nba/profiles/players/35x48/3846.jpg</TD><TD vAlign=top>David Harrison
Salary: $898,200 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.7 REB: 3.8 AST: 0.2 PER: 11.89
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Outgoing Players: Bonzi Wells, Corliss Williamson
http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/teamlogos/nba/sml/trans/ind.gif Indiana Pacers



<TABLE class=tablehead style="CLEAR: both" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=colhead><TH colSpan=2>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width=35>http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nba/profiles/players/35x48/3254.jpg</TD><TD vAlign=top>Bonzi Wells
Salary: $8,000,000 Years Remaining: 0
PTS: 13.6 REB: 7.7 AST: 2.8 PER: 16.68
</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width=35>http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nba/profiles/players/35x48/3331.jpg</TD><TD vAlign=top>Andre Miller
Salary: $8,100,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 13.7 REB: 4.3 AST: 8.2 PER: 16.40
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Outgoing Players: Stephen Jackson, Anthony Johnson, Austin Croshere, David Harrison
http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/teamlogos/nba/sml/trans/den.gif Denver Nuggets



<TABLE class=tablehead style="CLEAR: both" cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=colhead><TH colSpan=2>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width=35>http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nba/profiles/players/35x48/3210.jpg</TD><TD vAlign=top>Stephen Jackson
Salary: $5,610,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 16.4 REB: 3.9 AST: 2.8 PER: 13.65
</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width=35>http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nba/profiles/players/35x48/3207.jpg</TD><TD vAlign=top>Anthony Johnson
Salary: $2,420,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 9.2 REB: 2.2 AST: 4.3 PER: 14.27
</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width=35>http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nba/profiles/players/35x48/3182.jpg</TD><TD vAlign=top>Austin Croshere
Salary: $7,900,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.2 REB: 5.3 AST: 1.2 PER: 15.31
</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD width=35>http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/nba/profiles/players/35x48/3015.jpg</TD><TD vAlign=top>Corliss Williamson
Salary: $6,000,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 3.4 REB: 1.8 AST: 0.4 PER: 8.17
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Outgoing Players: Kenyon Martin, Andre Miller


Why Indiana does it: They don't have the money to just sign Bonzi(who Jermaine wants on the team). This way they also get a durable pass first PG in Andre Miller and a first round pick. The pacers want to get rid of Stephen Jackson too right? Giving up David Harrison is hard but you still have the MLE to go get someone like Lorenzen Wright that can fill the C spot for you.

Pacers line up after this:

Miller/Tinsley(if he plays)/Jasikevicious
Wells/Jones(re-signed)
Peja(if the pacers want to re-sign him, they can always S&T him)/Granger
O'neal/Foster
Foster/Wright/Pollard

Why the nuggets do it:

They get a ton of expiring contracts(Corliss Williamson, Croshere) so they can pay for Melo's extension and re-sign Nene. They get a shooting guard that will start and a solid PG in Anthony Johnson. They don't want Kenyon Martin anymore anyway.

Nuggets line up after this:

Johnson/Boykins
Jackson/Buckner
Melo/Jackson
Nene/Evans/Croshere
Camby/Nene/Elson

Why the Kings do it: It's tough to give up Bonzi(kings probably plan on re-signing him) but the team already has Martin+Garcia anyway. The frontcourt needs a lot more athleticism+size because Bibby and Miller are bad defenders. The pick could probably get the team a back up PG but you have the MLE there too. The Kings basically need more frontcourt depth(and I do not mean bad players like Kenny Thomas!:mad: ). This trade does that for them.

The kings sign Bobby Jackson and Rasual Butler with the MLE

Kings line up after this:

Bibby/Jackson/Hart
Martin/Garcia
Artest/Garcia/Butler
Martin/Rahim
Miller/Harrison

Jermaniac
05-20-2006, 08:28 PM
I would do it

Robertmto
05-20-2006, 09:16 PM
This assumes that the teams do alot of things after the trade to impriove their teams, so i dont get it.

Kingsfanbmiller
05-20-2006, 09:29 PM
This assumes that the teams do alot of things after the trade to impriove their teams, so i dont get it.


Not really. I mean I couldn't really post the final line ups becuase I don't know what each team will do with their MLE, Indiana's free agents, etc. But what do you think about the trade itself?

Robertmto
05-20-2006, 10:21 PM
I like the trade but i don't think it would ever happen

Jay Ohh
05-20-2006, 10:31 PM
I'd love it. We'd be back up there contending again with that lineup. I don't know if the other teams would go for it though.

Pig Nash
05-20-2006, 10:32 PM
Sign me up! Don't see why Denver would do it though.

Kingsfanbmiller
05-20-2006, 10:51 PM
It's simple why the nuggets would do it. They want to get rid of KMart and his huge contract. Williamson+Croshere wipe more than his contract off the books when they expire. They need that money to pay for Melo's extension and to re-sign Nene. They also need 3 point shooting which Croshere and Jackson give them. They get a decent PG to replace Miller and there are also a couple PGs they could go after in free agency.

Robertmto
05-20-2006, 11:00 PM
It's simple why the nuggets would do it. They want to get rid of KMart and his huge contract. Williamson+Croshere wipe more than his contract off the books when they expire. They need that money to pay for Melo's extension and to re-sign Nene. They also need 3 point shooting which Croshere and Jackson give them. They get a decent PG to replace Miller and there are also a couple PGs they could go after in free agency.

But would they want to spend money in Free Agency is the question.

SoupIsGood
05-20-2006, 11:13 PM
NO!

Nothing involving Bonzi. Especially Bonzi and a long contract. Good lord, I'd be upset if we brought him in.

Trader Joe
05-20-2006, 11:17 PM
Where do I sign? Who's first round pick do we get?

Kingsfanbmiller
05-20-2006, 11:20 PM
Where do I sign? Who's first round pick do we get?

Sacramento's 19th pick. Thanks for pointing that out.

VF21
05-21-2006, 12:32 AM
As a Kings fan, NO WAY.

Eindar
05-21-2006, 12:47 AM
Indiana getting a 1st in this is also a robbery. I don't think it's neccessary to make the trade work.

Kingsfanbmiller
05-21-2006, 04:29 AM
So you think it'd be better/more fair without the first round pick?

beast23
05-21-2006, 12:56 PM
NO!

Nothing involving Bonzi. Especially Bonzi and a long contract. Good lord, I'd be upset if we brought him in.SIG - People just don't seem to get it, even after a rather lengthy, fact-filled and explicit post by Scott.

Folks, Bonzi is a bad egg.



NO F'ING BONZI WELLS !!!!!

purdue101
05-21-2006, 01:55 PM
i would do it.

i think denver would want tinsley over AJ though.

Will Galen
05-22-2006, 07:12 AM
Bonzi gets S&Ted to Indiana . . .


I quit reading right there because it's a waste of time. That's not happening period.

Why? http://www.pacersdigest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21293