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Anthem
05-08-2006, 03:05 PM
Foster and Jackson for PJ Brown, Arvydas Macijauskas, and the Nawlins first-rounder. Biggest downside is that I don't think I could handle the influx of Euroball fans. Would be a decent move on the court for both teams, though.

Hornets get a starting center that's younger than their current one, and a starting SG that's older than their current one. We get a decent PF/C to play with Jermaine for a year (dude's ancient already, but he's got at least a year left in him) and mentor the Hulk. Assuming Fred leaves, we get a shooter that should be able to handle time at the backup 2. And we get the #12 pick in the draft.

Thoughts?

p.s. If Nawlins wanted to throw the midlevel at him, this would work using Freddy instead of Jax.

Anthem
05-08-2006, 03:06 PM
This was supposed to go in the trade forum. Admins please move.

DeS
05-08-2006, 03:18 PM
Foster and Jackson for PJ Brown, Arvydas Macijauskas, and the Nawlins first-rounder. Biggest downside is that I don't think I could handle the influx of Euroball fans. Would be a decent move on the court for both teams, though.

I was thinking actualy, that You enjoy discussions with Euros ;) Don't be affraid, there will be no significant influx of Euro fans (most macijauskas fans are the same Lithuanian Saras fans). The only scary thing - could You handle both Macijauskas and Saras threads ? :laugh:

Robertmto
05-08-2006, 03:36 PM
Keep in mind as well that the Pacers would also recieve a guranteed lottery pick.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=500 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=title_bl>New Orleans Trade Breakdown</TD></TR><TR><TD class=body_bl_np width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=title_dt colSpan=2>Outgoing</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=75>http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Macijauskas_Arvydas_noh.jpg</TD><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=425>Arvydas Macijauskas
6-4 PG from Lithuania (Foreign)
2.3 ppg, 0.5 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.2 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=75>http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Brown_PJ_noh.jpg</TD><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=425>P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title_dt colSpan=2>Incoming</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=75>http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Foster_Jeff_ind.jpg</TD><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=425>Jeff Foster
6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=75>http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Jackson_Stephen_ind.jpg</TD><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=425>Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title_gr colSpan=2>Change in team outlook: +11.0 ppg, +5.2 rpg, and +2.1 apg.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=500 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=title_bl>Indiana Trade Breakdown</TD></TR><TR><TD class=body_bl_np width="100%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=title_dt colSpan=2>Outgoing</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=75>http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Foster_Jeff_ind.jpg</TD><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=425>Jeff Foster
6-11 C from Southwest Texas State
5.9 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 0.8 apg in 25.1 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=75>http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Jackson_Stephen_ind.jpg</TD><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=425>Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
16.4 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 2.8 apg in 35.9 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title_dt colSpan=2>Incoming</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=75>http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Macijauskas_Arvydas_noh.jpg</TD><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=425>Arvydas Macijauskas
6-4 PG from Lithuania (Foreign)
2.3 ppg, 0.5 rpg, 0.3 apg in 7.2 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=75>http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Brown_PJ_noh.jpg</TD><TD class=tdpad vAlign=top width=425>P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title_gr colSpan=2>Change in team outlook: -11.0 ppg, -5.2 rpg, and -2.1 apg.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

microwave_oven
05-08-2006, 04:22 PM
I like it, but do you think NO would bite? Especially if they give us that pick.

Robertmto
05-08-2006, 04:24 PM
They might be more inclined to give up a 2nd rounder.

Mourning
05-08-2006, 04:50 PM
That pick is what makes it really interesting to us. I wouldn't mind us giving up one or if push came to shove (sp?) two second rounders. One would have to be that Phoenix 2008 second rounder though as it's bound to be lower then our own.

Regards,

Mourning :cool:

Anthem
05-08-2006, 04:56 PM
I was thinking actualy, that You enjoy discussions with Euros ;) Don't be affraid, there will be no significant influx of Euro fans (most macijauskas fans are the same Lithuanian Saras fans). The only scary thing - could You handle both Macijauskas and Saras threads ? :laugh:
Easily. I can ignore two threads just as easily as one. :flirt:

Anthem
05-08-2006, 05:00 PM
I like it, but do you think NO would bite? Especially if they give us that pick.
They have two late lottery picks... #13 and #15. I have no idea who they're looking at, but if they got their guy at #13, I could see them trading #15.

Arcadian
05-08-2006, 05:01 PM
I don't think Scott and Jackson get along at least they didn't when Jackson was in NJ.

Anthem
05-08-2006, 05:02 PM
I don't think Scott and Jackson get along at least they didn't when Jackson was in NJ.
Eh, that's an interesting point. I hadn't thought about that.

But then it has been a while, so who knows?

Robertmto
05-08-2006, 07:07 PM
Eh, that's an interesting point. I hadn't thought about that.

But then it has been a while, so who knows?

I thot they squashed that shortly after Jax left??

BoomBaby31
05-08-2006, 09:19 PM
The lottery makes it interesting but, i'm still kind of iffy about it. Nice trade proposal I could see it happening.

sixthman
05-08-2006, 09:43 PM
If we give up Jackson and Foster to New Orleans, wondering why you didn't do a J.R. Smith and PJ Brown deal?

Forget Arvydas Macijauskas. The deal would save the Pacers some luxury tax money and work because New Orleans is enough under the cap.

Anthem
05-08-2006, 10:19 PM
If we give up Jackson and Foster to New Orleans, wondering why you didn't do a J.R. Smith and PJ Brown deal?
Because we don't need another headcase.

I'm not sure if Macas would be able to crack the rotation, but he'd still be a better guy to have around than JR Smith.

sixthman
05-09-2006, 08:19 AM
Because we don't need another headcase.

I'm not sure if Macas would be able to crack the rotation, but he'd still be a better guy to have around than JR Smith.

I'm sure M would not be able to crack the rotation. :wink:

And, yeah, we need another guy who can't guard anyone and has no upside. :)

I'd take the young Smith any day. At age 20, or so, easily more impressionable, he's cheaper, has way more upside, and can be let go more easily, if needed.

Anthem
05-09-2006, 10:28 AM
I'm sure M would not be able to crack the rotation. :wink:

And, yeah, we need another guy who can't guard anyone and has no upside. :)

I'd take the young Smith any day. At age 20, or so, easily more impressionable, he's cheaper, has way more upside, and can be let go more easily, if needed.
Well, I'm game. The point for me is getting PJ Brown and a backup SG.

Others have brought up the Jax/Scott thing, though, so who knows.

RWB
05-09-2006, 11:54 AM
Well, I'm game. The point for me is getting PJ Brown and a backup SG.


By what the papers have been posting it sounds more like Orleans is looking to dump salary. Brown comes off their books after next so they might hold on to him for the future cap space. A trade off of our own salary dump (Cro) and a future pick may net your guy?

sixthman
05-09-2006, 10:21 PM
By what the papers have been posting it sounds more like Orleans is looking to dump salary. Brown comes off their books after next so they might hold on to him for the future cap space. A trade off of our own salary dump (Cro) and a future pick may net your guy?

I think you are correct. If I were New Orleans, I would not want to give away all of my cap space, if I could avoid it. A returning expiring contract makes sense, if they were willing to let PJ Brown go, which I am not convinced is the case.

Anthem
05-10-2006, 12:50 AM
I think you are correct. If I were New Orleans, I would not want to give away all of my cap space, if I could avoid it. A returning expiring contract makes sense, if they were willing to let PJ Brown go, which I am not convinced is the case.
Foster and Bender for PJ Brown and JR Rider! :D

Somebody owes us a one-sided trade... :grumble:

Robertmto
05-11-2006, 12:13 AM
Foster and Bender for PJ Brown and JR Rider! :D

Somebody owes us a one-sided trade... :grumble:

His name is Isiaih Thomas!

sixthman
05-12-2006, 10:15 AM
His name is Isiaih Thomas!

Is this a prediction?

Robertmto
05-12-2006, 04:00 PM
Is this a prediction?

No - thats who owes the Pacers a one sided trade.

Anthem
05-13-2006, 09:25 AM
No - thats who owes the Pacers a one sided trade.
I've got nothing against Zeke the GM. He hasn't hurt us any.

But Atlanta and (especially) Boston owe us.

Trader Joe
05-13-2006, 11:38 PM
The lotto makes it interesting cause we can flip that pick and our pick and try and move up to get Roy. (Yeah I will probably harp on roy from here until the draft so you may want to get used to it.)