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Anthem
04-07-2006, 05:00 PM
Well, it's getting close to the end of the season. Time to finally start up the magic number thread.

Cleveland is out of reach at the 4 spot, but Washington's still a possibility at 5. Of course, so is Philly at 9. So let's see how it breaks out. This is as of April 7 before today's games.

5. Washington (39-35) - 12
6. Milwaukee (37-38) - 9
7. Indiana (36-38)
8. Chicago (35-40) - 7
9. Philadelphia (34-40) - 7

I haven't factored in tiebreakers yet (I'll start doing that with 5 games left), but unless we play like total crap (even worse than we have been) it will be hard to drop down below the seventh seed. We've got a very good chance to take the #6 seed. Moving up to #5 will be hard unless Washington totally tanks it.

I'll keep this updated from now on.

Anthem
04-07-2006, 05:02 PM
P.S. If you wanna start looking at tiebreakers, here's the rules:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/story/7164305

Los Angeles
04-07-2006, 05:03 PM
Thanks for starting this. :buddies:

Could you tell us how it works again? How is the number computed - I'm pretty sure it has something to do with wins vs. losses. :whoknows:

HulkSmash!
04-07-2006, 05:16 PM
Thanks for starting this. :buddies:

Could you tell us how it works again? How is the number computed - I'm pretty sure it has something to do with wins vs. losses. :whoknows:
Nah, has nothing to do with wins and losses.......http://www.pacersdigest.com/forums/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Anthem
04-07-2006, 05:27 PM
Sorry. I didn't explain. Magic number is a technique used to gauge the playoff race. For example, our magic number to move past the Bucks into the six spot is 9... that means any combination of Bucks losses or Pacers wins that adds up to 9 means we get the spot. If we can win 6 of our last 8, and Milwaukee loses 3, then we get the 6 spot.

We could maybe make it with only 5 Pacer wins and 3 Pacer losses, depending on tiebreakers. We've tied the season series against each other (the first tiebreaker) and I haven't done the math on the rest yet (since they can still change depending on conference record, etc). For now, we'll stick with the tiebreaker that lets us win the spot outright.

Computation's easy. If Milwaukee wins the rest of their games, how many wins do we need to beat them? The answer is 9, which is bad when we only have 8 games left. Of course, I don't think they'll win the rest of their games.

SoupIsGood
04-07-2006, 05:34 PM
42

Bball
04-07-2006, 07:39 PM
One thing we know for sure... the Pacers' magic number is not 11/19 :rimshot:

-Bball

Anthem
04-07-2006, 10:12 PM
Blech. If we had pulled this game out it would have been a good night for us.

5. Washington lost... magic number down to 11.
6. Milwaukee lost... magic number down to 8.
7. Indiana lost.
8. Chicago didn't play... magic number still at 7.
9. Philadelphia lost... magic number down to 6.

Hicks
04-07-2006, 10:48 PM
I thought Chicago MADE Philly lose tonight, Anthem?

317Kim
04-07-2006, 10:50 PM
I'm confused, I thought Sixers lost to the Celts tonight.

Anthem
04-07-2006, 10:54 PM
I thought Chicago MADE Philly lose tonight, Anthem?
What? Am I watching the wrong scores? I've got Boston beating Philly.

Hicks
04-07-2006, 10:58 PM
Maybe I heard wrong on WB4; I thought Al said Chicago beat them tonight. Oh well.

Jermaniac
04-07-2006, 11:01 PM
Horrible, all those teams lose and we cant beat the Knicks. This would have been a huge win. And now we got to go and play the best team in the NBA on their home court, you can pretty much tack on another L to our record.

larry
04-07-2006, 11:14 PM
^ saranus can't shoot.
2 stay on topic, i could see us dropping to 8, or hell even 9. we just aren't impressive.

Kaufman
04-07-2006, 11:43 PM
Man, how many years has it been since we were in a position where we needed to talk about "magic" numbers...??? Has it been so long as the season that we don't talk about?

Kaufman
04-07-2006, 11:44 PM
I have a feeling this is going to become the new "season we don't talk about".

Anthem
04-08-2006, 12:15 AM
Man, how many years has it been since we were in a position where we needed to talk about "magic" numbers...???
We do a magic number thread every year at about this time.

2005: http://www.pacersdigest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10703
2004: http://www.pacersdigest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1620

Man, this thread is depressing:

http://www.pacersdigest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1080

Kaufman
04-08-2006, 02:17 AM
:blush:

I guess I should restate - how often do we really sincerely worry about getting that magic number...???

Raskolnikov
04-08-2006, 02:35 AM
42
A little somebody has been reading a certain little hitchhiker's guidey to the galaxy.

Anthem
04-08-2006, 11:00 PM
Well, another good night for us. If we can win tomorrow, we might be in really good shape.

As of Saturday, April 8:

Washington lost... magic number down to 10.
Milwaukee didn't play... magic number stays at 8.
Chicago lost... magic number down to 6.
Philadelphia won... magic number stays at 6.

Seven games to go.

Lord Helmet
04-08-2006, 11:10 PM
Well, another good night for us. If we can win tomorrow, we might be in really good shape.

As of Saturday, April 8:

Washington lost... magic number down to 10.
Milwaukee didn't play... magic number stays at 8.
Chicago lost... magic number down to 6.
Philadelphia won... magic number stays at 6.

Seven games to go.
But, winning tommorow will be a tough task.

Anthem
04-09-2006, 08:09 PM
Well, that hurt. We really need a win tomorrow.

As of Sunday, April 9:

Washington didn't play... magic number stays at 10.
Milwaukee lost... magic number drops to 7.
Chicago didn't play... magic number stays at 6.
Philadelphia didn't play... magic number stays at 6.

Six games to go.

Anthem
04-11-2006, 11:30 AM
This is getting interesting. Last night:

Washington lost... magic number drops to 8.
Milwaukee didn't play... magic number drops to 6.
Philadelphia won... magic number drops to 5. (moves into playoffs)
Chicago didn't play... magic number drops to 5. (drops out of top 8)

5 games left, all winnable. The #6 spot is still within our grasp. And the two teams ahead of us (Milwaukee and Washington) still have two games against each other.

Anthem
04-11-2006, 11:42 AM
5 games left, time to start looking at tiebreakers.

First tiebreaker is head-to-head record.
- vs. Washington: tied, 2-2
- vs. Milwaukee: tied, 2-2
- vs. Philly: we win, 2-1. Philly's magic number goes down by 1.
- vs. Chicago: tied, 2-2

Second tiebreaker: conference percentage (43.75%)
- vs. Washington (55%), they win, magic number stays the same.
- vs. Milwaukee (55%), they win, magic number stays the same.
- vs. Chicago (52%), they win, magic number stays the same.

Sucks to be us.

So the only change is w/ Philly.

Washington lost... magic number drops to 8.
Milwaukee didn't play... magic number drops to 6.
Philadelphia won... magic number drops to 4. (moves into playoffs)
Chicago didn't play... magic number drops to 5. (drops out of top 8)

Anthem
04-12-2006, 11:21 PM
A good night tonight. We won, so everybody goes down by one. But on top of that:

Washington lost... magic number drops to 6.
Milwaukee won... magic number drops to 5.
Philadelphia won... magic number drops to 3.
Chicago won... magic number drops to 4.

Four games left and an easy schedule. The 6 spot is still within our grasp.

Anthem
04-14-2006, 11:03 PM
Another good night for us. First off, Indy won, which drops everybody by one. After that:

Washington lost... magic number drops to 4.
Milwaukee won... magic number drops to 4.
Philadelphia lost... magic number drops to 1.
Chicago won... magic number drops to 3.

Three games left, and nothing's out of reach (including the lottery).

Jermaniac
04-14-2006, 11:10 PM
Philly lost tonight

Kegboy
04-14-2006, 11:14 PM
Philly lost tonight

He got the magic number right. Still kiddies, it goes to show you the evils of cut and paste.

:tmyk:

Anthem
04-15-2006, 12:27 AM
He got the magic number right. Still kiddies, it goes to show you the evils of cut and paste.

:tmyk:
Cut and paste? Who, me? :angel:

SjA3837
04-15-2006, 05:48 PM
5th seed looks pretty promising, if we take care of business. Both Milwaukee and Washington play Detriot, plus eachother once.

Anthem
04-15-2006, 10:13 PM
I'm heartbroken. This could have been a really good night for us.

Washington didn't play... magic number 4
Milwaukee lost... magic number 3
Chicago didn't play... magic number 3
Philadelphia lost... magic number drops to 0. They're OUT!

Well, we've got two games left. This is going down to the wire.

317Kim
04-15-2006, 10:15 PM
1 point means A LOT.

We've clinched. Next is positioning which we don't have much time to do.

D-BONE
04-15-2006, 10:23 PM
1 point means A LOT.

We've clinched. Next is positioning which we don't have much time to do.


Position ourselves to be excecuted? We are the quintessential sacrificial lamb.

Anthem
04-17-2006, 10:01 PM
I don't think we're going to pull it out.

Washington didn't play... magic number 3
Milwaukee won... magic number 2
Chicago won... magic number 2