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denyfizle
03-18-2006, 02:29 PM
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INDIANAPOLIS, March 17 (Ticker) -- In his return to the Hoosier State, Ron Artest received a rude greeting and an even rougher result.

The target of fans all game, the defensive-minded Artest could do nothing to stop a late surge that gave the Indiana Pacers an emotional 98-93 victory over the Sacramento Kings, who had a five-game winning streak snapped.

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Rookie Danny Granger scored 23 points and Jamaal Tinsley sparked the late rally for the Pacers, who won a close one for a change and left a sour taste in the mouth of their temperamental former teammate.

The 2004 Defensive Player of the Year, Artest's antics have disrupted the last two seasons for the Pacers. He finally was traded in January for sharpshooter Peja Stojakovic, a less complete but more cooperative player.

Asked if there was anything he missed about Indiana, Artest paused for several moments, then replied, "Yeah, probably a couple of things, but I can't think of them right now."

Artest missed nearly all of last season with a suspension for going into the stands to fight fans in an ugly brawl at The Palace of Auburn Hills. This season, he grumbled about his limited role in the offense before requesting a trade, which prompted the Pacers to put him on the inactive list for more than a month.

Artest was booed during pregame introductions and nearly every time he touched the ball. He ignored the Conseco Fieldhouse crowd - which can be very tough on visitors - to spark the Kings to a quick start.

"It's cool they booed me," Artest said. "There's still a lot of people out there that were glad to see me. If there was a fight between the fans who love me and the fans who booed me, I think the fans that love me have more heart. I'm not surprised they booed; that's what they're supposed to do. I'm a Sacramento King now."

Sacramento made nine of its first 10 shots, opening a 21-7 lead on a 3-pointer by Artest. Bibby scored 10 points and Artest and Miller eight each as the Kings built a 36-20 lead after one quarter.

The Pacers pecked away, closing to 45-41 on a surge led by Granger, Artest's heir apparent. Fueled by a flagrant foul by Sacramento's Bonzi Wells, Granger scored seven straight points.

The Kings scored the last seven points of the half capped by a layup by Artest for a 52-41 lead, but Granger scored 12 points in the third quarter, including consecutive hoops that gave the Pacers a 70-66 lead.

"This was a big game for us," Granger said. "We were playing against Ron and it was Peja's old team, it was a playoff atmosphere. They were beating us down at the beginning, but the crowd really helped get us back in it. I've always been an emotional player and I definitely fed off of our crowd."

Sacramento surged back ahead, 85-81, on a hook by Wells but 6:44 to go but went cold down the stretch as Indiana came alive. Leading the way was Tinsley, who scored 10 of his 20 points in the final period.

"We got off to a slow start, but I think we played hard in the second half," Tinsley said. "Physically, I'm feeling better and I'm ready for a playoff run. I'll do whatever I can to help this team win."

The point guard made a jumper and layup to give the Pacers the lead for good at 91-88 with 3:15 to play. Stojakovic added a layup and Stephen Jackson turned a miss by Artest into a fast-break dunk and a 95-88 lead with 1:46 left.

Artest scored 18 points but made just 6-of-22 shots. His last points came with 9:44 to play.

"As a team, we missed like 10 layups for 20 points," Artest said. "The Pacers took advantage of it and they deserved to win. We lost it as a team, and we just move on."

"I don't think (the booing) affected the game," Kings coach Rick Adelman said. "We couldn't do anything offensively in the second half. They turned up their energy level and started attacking us and it was a totally different game. They had 57 points in the second half and shot 60 percent. We just didn't guard them well enough.

Stojakovic had 20 points and 12 rebounds and Jackson scored 15 points for the Pacers (33-30), who improved to 7-17 in games decided by five points or fewer. Jeff Foster swept 16 boards.

Mike Bibby scored 22 points and former Pacer Brad Miller added 19, nine assists and eight rebounds for the Kings (33-32), who have gone 15-8 since acquiring Artest to climb into the Western Conference playoff picture.

"I think after the first quarter, we were pressing it too hard," Bibby said. "We just didn't continue to play the low game. It's a disappointment that we let that big of a lead get away from us."

Anthem
03-18-2006, 02:59 PM
Asked if there was anything he missed about Indiana, Artest paused for several moments, then replied, "Yeah, probably a couple of things, but I can't think of them right now."
:laugh:

I know a lot of people hated how often Ron put is foot in his mouth, but I just thought it was funny. If most people said that, I'd take it as a put-down of Indiana. With Ron, he's just being honest: he knows theres stuff he missed in Indy, but he can't think of it.

Note I took "Indiana" to mean to state, not the team.

Roy Munson
03-18-2006, 03:19 PM
Asked if there was anything he missed about Indiana, Artest paused for several moments, then replied, "Yeah, probably a couple of things, but I can't think of them right now."


I just don't think he has the mental capacity to listen to a question, think about it, and respond quickly. To me, it wasn't a put-down. It was just him honestly answering that he couldn't process that question and give a response.

If it had been a question that he had previously thought about and already had established an answer in his mind, he could have responded differently.

CableKC
03-18-2006, 03:40 PM
I think that Artest is the type of player that can easily be swayed by his emotions......the booing was expected....but I think the emotions and tension surrounding his return may have been greater then he expected.

We all know what happens when Artest emotions get the best of him....sometime it elevates his game......but other times.....he starts to take bad shots and making bad decisions.

5-23 shooting? I don't think that our defense affected him as much as the attention that he got from the fans.

D-BONE
03-18-2006, 03:41 PM
I have to think the fact that he demanded the trade and caused that whole commotion after the fans and community had supported him following the brawl black eye pretty much sums up how much he appreciates Indiana.

On a related note: As I've said before ARTEST=ANCIENT PACER HISTORY. Let's not waste too much energy on a done deal. Thank goodness we don't have to deal w/all the antics any longer!

Anthem
03-18-2006, 03:51 PM
I just don't think he has the mental capacity to listen to a question, think about it, and respond quickly. To me, it wasn't a put-down. It was just him honestly answering that he couldn't process that question and give a response.
Right. And most players can't (or at least don't). Instead, they trot out tired cliches.

Mourning
03-18-2006, 06:00 PM
I think that Artest is the type of player that can easily be swayed by his emotions......the booing was expected....but I think the emotions and tension surrounding his return may have been greater then he expected.

We all know what happens when Artest emotions get the best of him....sometime it elevates his game......but other times.....he starts to take bad shots and making bad decisions.

5-23 shooting? I don't think that our defense affected him as much as the attention that he got from the fans.

Aggreed!

Artest is the best!
03-18-2006, 06:04 PM
wow you guys say you hate him but you talk about him so much!:laugh:

Roy Munson
03-18-2006, 08:49 PM
wow you guys say you hate him but you talk about him so much!:laugh:

I talk about Osama Bin Laden, Hillary Clinton, and Barry Bonds from time to time also, but it doesn't mean I like any of them.

Shade
03-18-2006, 08:56 PM
F#ck you too, Ron. :furious:

CableKC
03-18-2006, 09:15 PM
wow you guys say you hate him but you talk about him so much!:laugh:
It is possible to hate Artest "the person" while respecting Artest "the player".

Many of us respect Artest skills and talents.....but have come to hate the person that he was when he wore a Pacer uniform.

BlueNGold
03-18-2006, 09:40 PM
Rick held back when he said:

"Peja is a great shooter, but he's a much better defender and rebounder than people think," Carlisle said. "In a lot of ways, he's like Artest – only in reverse. Ron is a great defender who is a better shooter and rebounder than people think."

Rick did not say, but could have continued (and IMO is always thinking):

"Peja is a good team mate and completely unselfish. He is unlikely to ask for time off from his multi-million dollar paying job to foolishly waste his money by promoting a cr#ppy RAP album anytime soon, jump into the stands and fight with fans, fight with team mates in the locker room, get fined, get technicals, get suspended, ask to be traded publicly, embarrass the franchise and Pacer's management, attempt to ruin a trade he had asked for, **** off the city.......etc. No, Peja is a mature professional the team and city can be proud of and will never do anything to hurt the franchise or the city...and will be cheered when he returns to play his former team......yes, in a lot of ways, he's like Artest – only in reverse.

PacerMan
03-18-2006, 10:51 PM
I talk about Osama Bin Laden, Hillary Clinton, and Barry Bonds from time to time also, but it doesn't mean I like any of them.

add DUHbaya to that list.

Roy Munson
03-18-2006, 10:56 PM
add DUHbaya to that list.

You can add him to YOUR list. I like him.

#31
03-18-2006, 11:10 PM
Rick held back when he said:

"Peja is a great shooter, but he's a much better defender and rebounder than people think," Carlisle said. "In a lot of ways, he's like Artest only in reverse. Ron is a great defender who is a better shooter and rebounder than people think."

Rick did not say, but could have continued (and IMO is always thinking):

"Peja is a good team mate and completely unselfish. He is unlikely to ask for time off from his multi-million dollar paying job to foolishly waste his money by promoting a cr#ppy RAP album anytime soon, jump into the stands and fight with fans, fight with team mates in the locker room, get fined, get technicals, get suspended, ask to be traded publicly, embarrass the franchise and Pacer's management, attempt to ruin a trade he had asked for, **** off the city.......etc. No, Peja is a mature professional the team and city can be proud of and will never do anything to hurt the franchise or the city...and will be cheered when he returns to play his former team......yes, in a lot of ways, he's like Artest only in reverse.

:lmao:

skyfire
03-18-2006, 11:29 PM
"It's cool they booed me," Artest said. "There's still a lot of people out there that were glad to see me. If there was a fight between the fans who love me and the fans who booed me, I think the fans that love me have more heart. I'm not surprised they booed; that's what they're supposed to do. I'm a Sacramento King now."

lols, I've always loved the crazy **** that comes out of Ron's mouth.
I'm with Anthem in thinking there was no malicious intent in what Ron said about Indy, he just couldn't remember.

Los Angeles
03-18-2006, 11:41 PM
From personal experience, it's hard to remember what you like about Indiana after you move away. :blush:

Sorry I'm just used to this now:

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denyfizle
03-19-2006, 12:34 PM
I just don't think he has the mental capacity to listen to a question, think about it, and respond quickly. To me, it wasn't a put-down. It was just him honestly answering that he couldn't process that question and give a response.

If it had been a question that he had previously thought about and already had established an answer in his mind, he could have responded differently.

yeah you all have great points to feel that way. i also took it that way initially. but after i thought about it, i felt that Ron isn't really that stupid. it kinda felt like a real smart answer to me to rub insult to injury for after everything he's done to us. like, there's really nothing special and memorable about indy. i saw this interview, and the way he paused just really looked so deliberate. the diplomatic and easiest way out would've been to say at least he missed the fans who supported him through the worst. but heck, it's all good. he's old news now. at least we wouldn't have to debate and put up with all his antics anymore. :boomer:

denyfizle
03-19-2006, 12:37 PM
Rick held back when he said:

"Peja is a great shooter, but he's a much better defender and rebounder than people think," Carlisle said. "In a lot of ways, he's like Artest only in reverse. Ron is a great defender who is a better shooter and rebounder than people think."

Rick did not say, but could have continued (and IMO is always thinking):

"Peja is a good team mate and completely unselfish. He is unlikely to ask for time off from his multi-million dollar paying job to foolishly waste his money by promoting a cr#ppy RAP album anytime soon, jump into the stands and fight with fans, fight with team mates in the locker room, get fined, get technicals, get suspended, ask to be traded publicly, embarrass the franchise and Pacer's management, attempt to ruin a trade he had asked for, **** off the city.......etc. No, Peja is a mature professional the team and city can be proud of and will never do anything to hurt the franchise or the city...and will be cheered when he returns to play his former team......yes, in a lot of ways, he's like Artest only in reverse.

LOL :laugh: