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Jose Slaughter
03-18-2006, 04:19 AM
There is a link to this message on the top of the main page.

Sounds like there might not be a next season. Maybe someone with a little more tech knowledge can tell me just how bad this is but to me it looks like their sending up flares & the ship is going down.



Sports.ws in 2006-2007



It's no secret Sports.ws focuses almost all of its effort on its basketball game. We've always wanted to offer a great game for one sport rather than a bunch of mediocre games for a bunch of sports. We always hoped for more resources to expand to more sports. Unfortunately, at this point, we can barely accommodate basketball and are concerned about next season (2006-2007). Our primary goal is to have the service up and running as well as, or better, than ever. To do this, we are going to need to recruit part-time tech help, or perhaps hand the reins over to new management entirely.


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If you are interested in applying for part-time work, see the options below. We do not have a pay rate in mind yet, and are open to the idea of offering premium services in exchange for some of the work (if that interests you). All work can be done remotely from anywhere in the world.

Job: Developer / Database Administrator

Responsibilities: Work periodically to iron out bugs and maintain database integrity. During peak times (draft time, early season), certain data mining and mass organization may be required (triggered mostly by custom requests, old imports). Work shouldn't exceed 10 hrs / week (except perhaps in October or November) and coding new and upgrading existing features will fill any time bug-fixing and data-mining don't consume.

Requirements: Extensively knowledge of PHP, Perl, and MySQL required; familiarity with *nix shell languages, C, and Sybase a bonus. Experience with Linux and Solaris administrator is an especially nice advantage. It is necessary for you to be able to read and understand code and code references, even if you are not familiar with every command. We are looking for both junior and senior level people at this position and are most interested in those willing and able to learn fast and adapt to current platforms quickly. Many hours may not be required, but consistent communication and check-ins are important.


Job: Customer Service Representative

Responsibilities: Primarily respond to requests and e-mails initiated by users. A majority (95%) of problems and requests can be handled through our custom web admin interface. The remaining might require the help of a tech specialist (bug fixes, etc). You need not be versed in low-level computer programming, but you will need to be able to identify which problems can be solved with our web tools, and which require more assistance (the less help you need, the better). Much of this you can pick up during remote training. Hours are flexible and off-hour work or work done in non-US time zones is encouraged to maintain a quick CS response. Exceptional candidates may be asked to conduct polls, communicate with users, and propose and design new features and upgrades.

Requirements: You should have exceptional communication skills and be able to navigate the web as an expert. Experience with Excel or any database or programming is a big plus. Hours are very flexible.



If you are interested in either job, e-mail hr@sports.ws and include the title of the job you are interested in, a current resume, hours and availibility between August 2006 and May 2007, and (optional) any salary or hourly pay requests. Please also indicate why the part-time work interests you, and why you want to work with the site.


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For the more adventurous spirits, we are considering handing over part or all of the physical, technical, and creative resources owned and acquired by Sports.ws. We would love to sell all intellectual property, servers, even the domain name, at heavily discounted rates. Sports.ws has been around as 94feet.com and Gametime.ws since 1997, and the gameplay has been in use since 1995. A massive userbase, premier .WS domain name, automated gameplay and scoring, a profitable business model, code to integrate financial transactions, multiple servers and hosting, and a finely tuned administrative interface to manage the entire site are just some of the assets we possess.

Why would we come out and advertise this in a not-so-subtle manner? The truth is we want to plan ahead and if a party interested in acquisition were to surface, we would want to allow plenty of time to make a smooth hand-off in time for next season. Why advertise to the average user? With resources already thinning, we honestly don't have the ability to target larger companies with the perfect sales pitch and don't have much to lose advertising here.

Our game has always been the alternative to mainstream large-site games much like our .WS name is an alternative to mainstream .COM. We're different, but proud of it. We don't take our situation likely and will be flexible in considering any serious inquiries made. If you have an interest in acquiring Sports.ws in part or as a whole, send an e-mail to sports_sales@sports.ws and be sure to include your intentions and ideas for compensation. We can respond to serious requests with plenty of information and answers to any questions. Please, legitimate inquiries only.


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Thank you for your continued participation in our games.


Regards,

P.C. Butler
Owner, Sports.ws LLC




We may not be able to answer all correspondence sent to hr@sports.ws or sports_sales@sports.ws. We will consider all e-mail carefully and contact you if interested.

Slick Pinkham
03-18-2006, 08:47 AM
hmmm..

sounds like we need a backup plan.

are there any other sites have leagues like this based upon head-to-head play and not average stats?

Hicks
03-18-2006, 01:40 PM
What about yahoo?

Jose Slaughter
03-19-2006, 12:29 AM
hmmm..

sounds like we need a backup plan.

are there any other sites have leagues like this based upon head-to-head play and not average stats?

I looked real hard a couple seasons ago but found absolutly nothing close to how this game is played.

Doug
03-19-2006, 09:32 PM
I know of nothing similar. But I can't say I've looked real hard.

I can't see myself having any time to help them out, nor do I have the funds to buy their site or the time to run the site.

And I really don't want to write fantasy basketball software. Once, about 15 years ago, I took a couple days off of work and wrote software to run the fantasy football league I was in. This was before these programs took off. I should have commericalized and "web enabled" the dang thing. Probably would have ended up selling it to Yahoo or Sportsline or somebody during the bubble.

Then buying a boat and living in the islands and drinking rum all day long.

!@#$!@#$@!$ hindsight is painful sometimes.

bmac
03-20-2006, 12:03 AM
What about yahoo?

Yahoo is fun for football, but I hated the format with basketball. Just my two bits........

DisplacedKnick
03-20-2006, 10:19 AM
A couple of years ago when sports.ws started asking for money I checked out several sites. I bookmarked this one because I thought some of the Keeper League Rules were worth looking at.

They use a head-to-head format where each team plays 2 games/week. For each of your players, their scores from the first 2 games their NBA team plays in a given week are tallied (if they play in 3 or more games those don't count). They use a 1 Fantasy point for everything system. The commissioner also must have a lot more spare time on his hands than I do.

http://www.fantasybasketballfederation.com/

If it looks like our site isn't operating next season, and if I don't have an alternative, I'll e-mail their commish and ask what they use for software.

Hicks
03-20-2006, 07:09 PM
We could do it ourselves by hand. :suicide:

Although theoretically if you set up the algorithms in Excel... it'd only take a week instead of a month.

Doug
03-20-2006, 10:13 PM
We could do it ourselves by hand. :suicide:.

Been there. Done that. Wrote a program so I wouldn't have to do it again...

Why, I remember when we had to type in the NFL scores from the newspaper...

HEY! YOU KIDS!!! GET OFF OF MY LAWN!!!!




Seriously, back in the day the hardest part was getting the stats. Once I wrote a bunch of Perl scripts to scrape box scores from USA today, things got a bit easier.

Until they changed their format.

So I'd fix them.

And then they'd change their format. Again.


Today, I kinda have the same issue with RoboDoug. He pulls the results from the Pacer games automatically from nba.com. But, if they change their format, and they have several times over the past couple of years, it breaks and I have to adjust the code.

There might be a site out there now that offers free stats feeds, but I haven't looked for one in a while.

The rest of it is a simple matter of programming. Of which, I don't have the time for.

able
03-21-2006, 06:00 AM
I've looked at it, their site adn what ever there was to look into it, but their request for capital or take-over is quite clear, though funny, like anyone would make an offer without knowing what the entire operation pertains.

I am sure I can get someone to write the dbase part, no problem, the datamining from where ever would be the problem, as Doug stated. but a dbase (preferably oracle) would be "easy" inlcuding setup options for whatever.
However, that is the backoffice part, not the front.
If there are volunteers for a project, then I am prepared to have the backoffice done and the hosting, but I need a few people to design, write and build the front end.

Skaut_Ech
08-10-2006, 11:01 AM
For the more adventurous spirits, we are considering handing over part or all of the physical, technical, and creative resources owned and acquired by Sports.ws. We would love to sell all intellectual property, servers, even the domain name, at heavily discounted rates. Sports.ws has been around as 94feet.com and Gametime.ws since 1997, and the gameplay has been in use since 1995. A massive userbase, premier .WS domain name, automated gameplay and scoring, a profitable business model, code to integrate financial transactions, multiple servers and hosting, and a finely tuned administrative interface to manage the entire site are just some of the assets we possess.

Why would we come out and advertise this in a not-so-subtle manner? The truth is we want to plan ahead and if a party interested in acquisition were to surface, we would want to allow plenty of time to make a smooth hand-off in time for next season. Why advertise to the average user? With resources already thinning, we honestly don't have the ability to target larger companies with the perfect sales pitch and don't have much to lose advertising here.

Our game has always been the alternative to mainstream large-site games much like our .WS name is an alternative to mainstream .COM. We're different, but proud of it. We don't take our situation likely and will be flexible in considering any serious inquiries made. If you have an interest in acquiring Sports.ws in part or as a whole, send an e-mail to sports_sales@sports.ws and be sure to include your intentions and ideas for compensation. We can respond to serious requests with plenty of information and answers to any questions. Please, legitimate inquiries only.

Anyone actually made contact with them about cloning them for a price, or getting some serious software help from them?

able
08-10-2006, 11:22 AM
I considered, but did not do at the time, the offer (as far as i know) is no loner "open" but I will contact them for options that they think are still available.

Don't forget that in order to take something like this over you will need serious dollars, not just the take-over, because frankly the hardware and such I would likely not be interested in, nor the hosting as you will understand, but also in preparation for what is to come, the userbase can be "nice" but remember that they couldn't make it to work, otherwise it would not be for sale or closing down part of the ops, but will draw a serious exchange on your resources.

So in short I figured that only if I had financial backing woudl this be possible and considering they could not make it work, I would have hard time selling it to potential investors.

I have emailed them to see what "can" happen as in source and such, and if they have "numbers" available, and work with that, but this will not stop the dev going on already :) sometimes it is wiser to just do it "anew" instead of taking over a losing prop.

But thanks for posting this Skaut :) I couldn't find it anymore.

Skaut_Ech
08-10-2006, 11:31 AM
That's what I was thinking about: The source code.


the userbase can be "nice" but remember that they couldn't make it to work, otherwise it would not be for sale or closing down part of the ops, but will draw a serious exchange on your resources.

I know, I know. I'm just so disappointed I'm reaching.

able
08-10-2006, 11:42 AM
That's what I was thinking about: The source code.



I know, I know. I'm just so disappointed I'm reaching.

Skaut; I AM developing a site that will do the same, you will not be out, no matter where we get with this, as I wrote them in the meanwhile.

There WILL be a site doing this for all thowse concerned, just don't expect EVERYTHING to be as it was ;)