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Shamboubou
03-06-2006, 12:55 PM
Man I almost couldn't stand to listen to the game yesterday because of Bill. I mean this guy showed his hatred towards the pacers all game long. I know that he used to come and help our centers and stuff, but I dont think the guy had one good thing to say about the team the whole game. I mean he was all over AI the first half when he was doing nothing, I just cant stand to listen to him commentate a game. Does anybody like him?

ChicagoJ
03-06-2006, 01:01 PM
I do.

:brick:

Dr. Goldfoot
03-06-2006, 01:01 PM
Bill Walton always grates on my nerves. Whether he's doing a Pacers game or not. He makes outlandish claims like Kwame Brown is the best post player the Lakers have ever had, then Snapper asks him what about Shaq or Kareem or even Rambis. His dentures freak me out. We get it, you were a hippie. Unfortunately, He does exactly what they want. Here we are still talking about him.

ChicagoJ
03-06-2006, 01:04 PM
In fact...

I'd blame Musberger much more for not only 'letting it' get out of control yesterday, but in fact encouraging it and starting his own tangents.

Bill does need a strong play-by-play man to keep him focused. Tom Hammond at NBC was perfect for Bill.

But I've also thought Musberger sucked since he was the voice of CBS' NBA coverage in the 1980s.

Indyfan
03-06-2006, 01:05 PM
I can't stand to listen to him, it really ruins the game broadcast when he does it. Not sure why ABC doesn't realize this though, even if we are still talking about him, it is negative talk.

Dr. Goldfoot
03-06-2006, 02:07 PM
People love to hate him...which makes him matter. There is no such thing a bad publicity, just publicity.

Fireball Kid
03-06-2006, 02:08 PM
I think hes hilarious.

CableKC
03-06-2006, 02:12 PM
Ever since his comments in last year's playoffs saying that he would much rather take Sheed as a PF over JONeal ( whether in actuality he is the better player or not )...and because of a sense of homerism ( and my hate and respect for Sheed ).....I've lost all respect for the man.

He has a tendency to go with the easy team or player to root for....like his love for the Pistons, the Spurs or ( in yesterday's case ) his harping of AI being left out of the Olympics...while downplaying what other capable teams can do. To him.....either you are Suck his book...or you don't....the Basketball world is black and white to him....nothing inbetween.

RWB
03-06-2006, 02:15 PM
Can't stand Bill's mouth during the game like many here. ABC needs to keep him in the studio instead courtside. He's getting worse it seems and trying to compete with Barkley on the crazy meter. I like CB however.

Since86
03-06-2006, 02:17 PM
People love to hate him...which makes him matter. There is no such thing a bad publicity, just publicity.


I hate that saying.....

When movie critics give bad reports on movies, that doesn't send more people out to see that movie. It keeps them away from it. Which is exactly the opposite the movie producers want.

If you want to watch the game, you're either going to sit through his dumb comments or turn down the volume.

ABC wins because it has the rights to show the game, not because people tune into hear Bill. They could have a monkey doing the commentary, and people would still watch.

I can't say I've ever heard someone talk about how they watched a game just to listen to who's calling it, but I have heard people talk about how they've turned down the volume, sat through it grinding their teeth, or just listened to it on the radio when they don't like who the announcers are.

RWB
03-06-2006, 02:21 PM
One other thing....is it any surprise ABC and ESPN are part of the same company?

sweabs
03-06-2006, 02:24 PM
There are very few people I actually feel compelled to "mute", but Bill Walton can be one of them. I say "can", because as Jay pointed out, he is not entirely awful when he has someone alongside of him to keep things on track. However, most of the time I intermittently mute him, or just keep it on low volume for the entire game.

Who else gets the mute button? Bill Laimbeer and Jack Ramsay. I don't even give Jack a chance anymore...it's mute for him right from the start (although, I don't think I've heard him call a game this year...knock on wood).

efx
03-06-2006, 02:29 PM
I like him, he doesn't take himself too seriously which is something way too many announcers do. It's just a game and he realizes that. And he undoubtedly has a passion for it.

Since86
03-06-2006, 02:32 PM
One other thing....is it any surprise ABC and ESPN are part of the same company?

No, but it is a surprise that Disney is their parent company.

ESPN is so "hip-hop" it's just weird that Disney, of all companies, ultimately has the final say in what happens.

rel
03-06-2006, 03:31 PM
on NBATV, they did a magic vs rockets game without any tv commentary...they called it something special, but i forgot it...

...but it was the greatest broadcast ive watched in awhile

Roy Munson
03-06-2006, 03:36 PM
I enjoy listening to Walton. He doesn't take himself, or life, too seriously.

Roaming Gnome
03-06-2006, 04:01 PM
I enjoy listening to Walton. He doesn't take himself, or life, too seriously.

Actually, I will agree with you. I can't believe that so many of you let Bill Walton get you that upset. It's just an act!

:lol:Then again...some of you believe that the announcers have a rooting interest.

ChicagoJ
03-06-2006, 04:19 PM
I guess I rate announcers sometimes based on the "who would I enjoy sitting next to at a game" criteria.

I'd enjoy Walton. Of course, I'd also have the gumption to call "bull****" if he gets on one of his hyperbole-laden tangents.

After sitting through Tom Heinsohn again the other night, I'm pretty sure I'd just want to punch him by about the middle of the first quarter.

skyfire
03-06-2006, 05:10 PM
I hate Walton. He doesn't commentate, he just talks up whatever allstar is playing the game. If it happens to be AI then there might as well not be any other players on the court just 'How can you leave a player who can give you 40 and 10 out of Team USA' over and over again. :puke:

8.9_seconds
03-06-2006, 06:26 PM
I hate Walton. He doesn't commentate, he just talks up whatever allstar is playing the game. If it happens to be AI then there might as well not be any other players on the court just 'How can you leave a player who can give you 40 and 10 out of Team USA' over and over again. :puke:



EXACTLY!!!!!! I hate that! I don't remember if it was Pacers/Spurs or Spurs/Suns I was watching, but he kept drooling over Tony Parker, '...With Tim Duncan not stepping up this year, Parker has become a fabulous leader......blah blah overwhelimingly deserving All-Star.......blah blah best point guard in the league, scoring machine.......not impressed with Bruce Bowen at all........blah blah..' It was the most annoying thing in the world!!!!!!


THEN!!!!!!!!..............

Parker threw the ball away and he spent five minutes bashing him and moved on to Manu.

I do like it though when he says something so stupid, like the rule change, and the other guys are like, "Uh, Bill..." I like Bill Walton the player, I was impressed actually with Bill Walton the player, but Walton the announcer is TOO much.

Give me Charles,Kenny, and Ernie anyday.

joles519
03-06-2006, 07:54 PM
I find Bill Walton unbelievably obnoxious. He grates on my nerves also. I can't stand watching the Pacers games on TNT, ABC, or ESPN because of the announcers, but Bill Walton holds a special place in my heart for king of the obnoxious people. He has his special teams/players that he loves and he just goes on and on and on (and on) about the wonder that is that team/player. I was shocked yesterday when he actually had something good to say about Freddie and David. I tried to ignore the announcers for most of the game especially Bill.

I usually watch the games on a bit of a delay with my PVR, but if the games are going to be on the non-Pacers network I have to watch the games in real time so that I can listen to the radio with the broadcast. Unfortunately, yesterday I watched the game in the evening, so I was subjected the torture of listening to Bill Walton.

Los Angeles
03-06-2006, 09:38 PM
I listened to Walton for about 15 minutes of game time before I completely lost it, turned down the TV and streamed Mark and Slick over the internet. All he talked about all game was Iverson. I paid attention and he did not say ONE - not one single, little positive thing about the Pacers. It's like the team didn't exist and we were winning on the road.

I used to kind of like his delvery. But - his inability to comment on the game that is actually being played is getting worse, not better.

He sucks.

ChicagoJ
03-06-2006, 10:48 PM
You guys crack me up.

It wasn't that long ago that - because of their UCLA connection - that Reggie Miller was one of Walton's favorite players and a guy he'd go on-and-on complimenting.

My all-time favorite Waltonism, from a long time ago. Reggie traveled during a game at MSA. Walton, without missing a beat, "Rarely do you see a player from UCLA make that kind of mental mistake."

Unclebuck
03-06-2006, 10:50 PM
Bill Walton was at his best doing Clippers games. He was very entertaining.

ilive4sports
03-06-2006, 11:07 PM
Well from what i read i guess its not as bad that i didnt see the game. I cant stand Bill Walton. He doesnt seem to be thinking before he speaks or something. He is extremely biased too. I cant stand it.

grace
03-07-2006, 12:55 AM
I can't stand Walton. I never have been able to tolerate him for more than a quarter at a time. Sunday was particularly bad because someone in their production meeting decided it would be All AI All The Time!

Peck
03-07-2006, 01:11 AM
Like I said before I used to be able to tolerate him but now all he is doing is stupid voice over one liners for video games.

Bill is not biased towards anybody one way or the other so I don't get that he hates the Pacers or anything like that. I just can't stand that he thinks he is there as the entertainment when he really should be giving insights into the game.

God I love nothing more than when Hubie Brown was doing color. I even liked the Czar of the telestrator Mike Fratello.

I understand that Walton is doing nothing but schtick, but after a time it gets old.

I also hate Musberber but that has a lot more to do with his old CBS days because all the guy would do would be jock Bird, Magic & Dr. J.

However unlike almost everybody else I was thrilled with the discussion of Iverson. That was the first real taste of non schtick from Bill we have gotten in a long long time. He started out in character but when Brent kept stating that Iverson shouldn't be on the team the tides turned & Bill made a little effort to show some real feelings on this.

Either way I never in my life thought I would ever be happy to hear Al Alberts but the ABC team sure as hell made me miss Al.

I love Clark Kellogg btw, he is my favorite color guy out there. Yes, that is my homerism kicking in but I'm allowed one or two homerisms & Clark is mine.

NorCal_Pacerfan
03-07-2006, 03:37 AM
I used to get ticked off by him - but now he doesn't phase me a bit. He's simply a character.

BTW, he had a lot of good things to say about AJ...

aldoc2
03-07-2006, 08:22 AM
I also cringe at the fact that some pacer games I have to listen to Bill. He is the only announcer in all of sports that has that effect on me. I usually don't mute him because I enjoy listening to the crowd or just the overall game sounds.

Which leads me to this -

About a month ago, I was watching a college game (forget who) on an HD channel. I think whatever station it was, was having sound difficulties. The commentators voices were gone! Just the sounds of the game, like you were sitting in the stands. On the regular channel they were there but not on the HD channel. I actually really enjoyed it. Don't get me wrong, I like listening to Al, Clark, Quinn, or even Sam. I just wish we had an option to mute just the announcers. Except the random facts and stats they provide, I don't need them. I'm watching the game, I don't need play by play.