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Peck
03-02-2006, 03:12 AM
Larry Bird, Donnie Walsh or whoever have only one job ahead of them for the next week. They need to be on the phone right now signing a big man from the D-league to a 10 day contract.

By big man I don't just mean in height. I would not have a problem with Fizer on a 10 day because even though he is short he does have the girth that can play some in the middle.

That is as long as Croshere is not ready to come back. Now if he is ready to return then this is a moot point but I have yet to hear a definate return date on this guy, which worries me because for a second concussion without signs & symptoms he ought to be back by now. I'm afraid that concussion was a little worse than we were initially led to believe.

We were able to do this for a good while because we had several days between games & we did not have to travel so Pollard was able to heal after every game. Now with several back to back & even more multi games in a week with lots of flight time I strongly fear Scot's back will take a turn for the worse. Now they are saying he is suffering from Plantars faciatis as well.

I just don't want Harrison & Foster beat to death having to play more min. in back to back games & God forbid that Pollard have to sit out some games.

A 10 day contract will mean very little in terms of $$ for the team & in 10 days we can just let the person go back to the D-league or sign them for a second 10 day contract if Cro still isn't ready to go.

Either way I want them making some form of movement to help the team & not force Jeff Foster to go back to Center & leave Danny Granger as our only powerforward.

Moving on.

Gilbert Arenas is the most under rated player in the NBA IMO. The guy can just flat out kill you & very few players can do anything to stop him. I knew when I used to see him play with the Warriors that he was going to be very good, I had no idea he was going to be this good. Win or lose I like to watch him play.

It was nice that just for once Brendan Haywood did not turn into Pat Ewing vs. us. I get sick of seeing that guy tear us up.

Etan Thomas actually had a very nice game for them though. If the guy would have hit his free throws he would have had as nice a game as Harrison had because he had 10 boards & 3 blocks himself he just happened to go 0-5 from the line & some of those misses made Shaq look like Mark Price from the line.

Let's look at us.

I about lost my mind at the 5 min. mark in the 4th quarter. Carlisle took Harrison out of the game & I thought that he was done for the night. The problem was that this was when David was on fire. I knew he needed a break but I had a feeling that he was going to be done for the night. I was more than pleasently suprised to see him re-inserted with about 4 min. to go in the game.

A lot of players had good games & I'll try & touch on them here in a min. but David Harrison turned this game around. He had 2 monster blocks in succession late in the game & the reason that was important (besides the fact that he blocked the shot) is because at that time the Wizards started looking over thier shoulders for where David was & a few of them started pulling up for shots instead of attacking the rim. Arenas attacked the rim but he was rebuffed once & killed another.

I said this before when he was playing poorly early on & I want to say it now again when he is kicking @ss. He was the last pick in the first round of a shallow draft, anything we get from him is almost a bonus. The fact that I think he will be the most significant draft pick since Dale Davis makes it even more of a bonus. I caveat that by saying Granger will probably be a better player & if he turns into the all-star many of us think he can be, he might be the most significant draft pick. But that is just splitting hairs because let's be honest, a front line of Granger & Harrison makes me very happy & I see that as the frontline of the future (the future begins next season btw).

Also I don't want to make to much of this because I don't want this to turn into something I don't mean but I will say this with the hopes it's taken in the spirit I mean it.

I love to see tough players gutting out minor injury's & over coming them on the floor.

Please do NOT interpert that as a slam at any player past or present, it's only meant to be a compliment to David Harrison.

Saras had a great outing. Whenever he can get that shot of his to drop he is so dangerous because he uses that to open up his passing lanes & hits the cutters for easy baskets. We are very fortunate that we have three quality guards to take the floor for us. I thought he did as well vs. Arenas as he could do, he certainly did not embarass himself & he often was able to make passes around Gilbert that frustrated him.

I do see though that he took the Reggie Miller award for rebounds in a game.;)

Jax. Very very solid game by Stephen. I was not only impressed with his shooting & his solid defense but I was also very happy because he seemed to be a willing passer both early & often. Sometimes I get aggrivated at him because he tends to hold the ball to long & takes some shots that I would prefer him not to take. Example that three down at the end of the 4th with over half the shot clock remaining when we needed to burn time. But other than that I thought he did great all night long in either making a quick move or making a fast pass.

Peja. I don't know what it is about thier arena but Peja just cannot shoot in there. However what I love about him is that if his shot is not dropping from outside he doesn't John Starks it (sorry Rim) & continue to shoot himself out of a slump. He drives & either gets some short range shots or gets to the line or as is often the case both. He got to the line 9 times during this game & thankfully he hit all 9 times.

On a side note wouldn't you hate to be the one player who would have missed a freethrow this game for us? Thank God noboby did.

Jeff. I had no idea till I read the stats that he had 13 boards. It just didn't seem that much to me, but I guess he really must have packed them into a very short time. I knew he had a few boards but not that many. Not the best game he's ever played but once again he played smart & did a very nice job of rotating off of the screens on the defensive end.

Scot. Like Jeff, not one of his best games, but also like Jeff a very smart game. He did a very good job of bodying up on Haywood & keeping him out fo the lanes & limiting him on the boards. I can tell that either his back is starting to flare up or his heels are starting to bother him because he now litterally is shooting flat footed outside shots. I know he's never been a big jumper but he usually got some form of lift from the outside, not now.

Ed Gill. Thanks Eddy, I put up a post in another thread talking about how I had no problem with him, then he proceeds to go out & lay an egg on the floor. Let me pass my condolences on right now to anybody that might have the guy on a fantasy basketball team anywhere. That game was a stat killer.

Now on the other hand I do want to say one thing. I sawEd Gill shut Gilbert Arenas down once on a drive & I've never seen anybody one on one put a stop to him. He litterally had his legs as far apart as he could get them & rotated on the baseline as quick as Gilbert did & kept in front of him the whole time. That was nice to see. However he just showed us on the offensive end why he is the 4th string p.g.

Granger. I want Danny to stop being so d@mn passive & become more aggressive when he is on the floor. If I see him pass up an open shot again to pass the ball to Fred Jones I think my head will explode. Right now I am convinced there is nothing Dan can't do. Inside or outside I have no fear when he is looking for his shot. His only problem is night in & night out being aggressive on the offensive end. He never takes a play off on defense so that doesn't worry me & I'm not saying he takes offensive plays off, he just have to be more aggresive with the rock.

All in all another great win for our team.

We may no longer be one of the most talented teams in the NBA but I will say this for us, nobody outworks us on a nightly basis. I am more proud of that fact than I am of the fact that we have a winning record. It is a credit to the players the coach's & yes even the management that we now have a team that puts it on the line every night & only concerns itself with trying to win ballgames. I couldn't say that early in the season.

Now let me address one personal issue. I would like to thank the many of you who have p.m.'d me asking me where my post game reports are or why I haven't posted much.

To answer this simply I will say this. Every year I go through this, often times more than once, where I just feel as though I've become stale. While many of you see my "odd thoughts" posts as a post game summery they were never ever intended to be that. They are what they are called, just my odd thoughts & often times I think I've hit a wall with my ideas. I am not as fluid as Uncle Buck with my wordsmithing so often times I look back & think I've rambled on forever & at the end really said nothing. Sometimes I just have to step back & post on other peoples threads for awhile. Even now I am not very happy with the quality of this post but I think I'll go ahead & post it.

I was going to say that I am not posting another odd thought until Able returns to regular posting but I hope it doesn't have to come to that.:)

Ok, let's end this with some uplifting dancing by our favorite fruits. If you love the Pacers join in, if you love the NBA join in, if you love the Pistons go to he.......oops sorry that just slipped out:-p Ok our Piston friends can dance to.

:dance: :dance2: :pepper: :carrot: :mango: :cucumber: :pineapple :rock: :apple: :dorange: :bananadan :lazy: :bgroovy: :bgroovy:

Los Angeles
03-02-2006, 03:55 AM
Good read, Peck. And welcome back!

I thought the rule for 10 day contracts late in the season was that more than ten days resulted in paying some sort of guarantee for the rest of the season? Now I'm not so sure. ONe of our league rule hawks can clarify.

I think Harrison won the game for us, but I think he may have sacrificed several games after this. Will it have been worth it? I don't know.

This game was as close to pure "indiana basketball" as I've seen us play all year. What I mean by that is they played the way I was taught to play: Smart decisions. Hustle. Accuracy. And winning through fundamentals. An old teacher used to alway tell me. "When you feel yourself slipping, stop thinking about slipping and only focus on the basics. When you are out of steam, you'll always be able to lean on the fundamentals. They will be second nature to you. You won't have to think about them." He added: "Mastery of the basics make lesser talents better players. Mastery of the Fundamentals make lesser teams beat better teams."

We showed up with 9 guys, lost one of those for part of the game, and still beat a winning team in thier building. That's amazing. Sure, there was a lot of luck in it. But you know what? There's nothing lucky about preparation and effort. We showed both tonight.

Good win, and good recap.

EDIT: Oh - and I want to add: It's you're party, you can post when you want to.

Lithfan
03-02-2006, 05:02 AM
Welcome back!

Thanks for the odd thoughts-like recap.

I would like you to write more about Saras though. ;)

fifo
03-02-2006, 06:29 AM
Welcome back!

Thanks for the odd thoughts-like recap.

I would like you to write more about Saras though. ;)

Lithfan, I think there's no shame in liking a player. After all sports is much about that - relating to a certain quality or person that inspires you. Dont you think?
Anyway I appreciate your style (even though fanatic at times ;) ). Keep it going... Saras or no Saras.

Oh! and Peck - I too want to thank you. Interesting read as always.

SoupIsGood
03-02-2006, 07:18 AM
I thought this game by Hulk would draw you out, with him playing injured and all :) ;)

D-BONE
03-02-2006, 07:45 AM
Jeff Foster last three games 13, 14, & 16 rebounds. The guy is the proverbial glass eater. Probably is just now starting to hit his stride after coming back from the injury. Plus we all know he's a total team guy who shows up on D, too. So I don't care if he can't hit outside 3 feet. However, I keep salivating over the possibility, given his improving FT shooting, that sometime in the not so distant future he'll be able to add a decent 12-16 footer to his repetoire.

LA, I had the same concern about DH going so long and intensely on his ankle. He's young so hopefully he'll heal quickly.

Lithfan
03-02-2006, 08:12 AM
Lithfan, I think there's no shame in liking a player. After all sports is much about that - relating to a certain quality or person that inspires you. Dont you think?
Anyway I appreciate your style (even though fanatic at times ;) ). Keep it going... Saras or no Saras.

Oh! and Peck - I too want to thank you. Interesting read as always.

Sure, I agree and thanks for the appreciation :blush:

Unclebuck
03-02-2006, 08:19 AM
I knew many would be freaking out whe harrison was taken out of the game with 5 minutes left, but I knew Rick would bring him back in, which he did. DH needed a break and so did Peja

Also I want to point out that Jax was so hot in the 1st quarter that Rick let him start the second also. I ention this for those of you who suggest Rick substitutes based on the clock.

owl
03-02-2006, 08:22 AM
Good job Peck and thanks for the read.

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Joining in the dance.


owl

Lithfan
03-02-2006, 08:27 AM
I knew many would be freaking out whe harrison was taken out of the game with 5 minutes left, but I knew Rick would bring him back in, which he did. DH needed a break and so did Peja

Also I want to point out that Jax was so hot in the 1st quarter that Rick let him start the second also. I ention this for those of you who suggest Rick substitutes based on the clock.

Yeah, Rick actually kind of suprised me, in the good way yesterday.

But believe me, regarding the clock issue, DeS mentioned it yesterday and I've noticed it too. Basically I check the play by play after each game. And trust me, I can find easily minute when Saras plays. Rick indeed has substitution time pattern, especially in the beginning of each game.

First quarter 8-9 min subs come in. If they are good they start the second quarter and so on.

Unclebuck
03-02-2006, 08:28 AM
I think Freddie defends Gilbert about as well as anyone can.

RWB
03-02-2006, 09:10 AM
That is as long as Croshere is not ready to come back. Now if he is ready to return then this is a moot point but I have yet to hear a definate return date on this guy, which worries me because for a second concussion without signs & symptoms he ought to be back by now. I'm afraid that concussion was a little worse than we were initially led to believe.

LA started a thread recently wondering where Austin's at. I think we're all getting a little concerned maybe something else is going on. Head trauma is not a good thing.

MagicRat
03-02-2006, 09:25 AM
:bdance:

Will Galen
03-02-2006, 10:15 AM
Now let me address one personal issue. I would like to thank the many of you who have p.m.'d me asking me where my post game reports are or why I haven't posted much.

To answer this simply I will say this. Every year I go through this, often times more than once, where I just feel as though I've become stale.

I've read your posts for years so I knew you go though 'dry spells.' Even so, I did check to see if you were still posting, and when I saw your name online I knew you hadn't abandoned us.

Like everyone else I do enjoy your odd thoughts posts after games because you seem to be able to capitulate games better than anyone I've ever read.

On the other hand I think some of your thoughts truly are odd! (grin)

Another good read Peck, thanks!

penn13
03-02-2006, 10:33 AM
:dance:

Thanks Peck...good read.

As a fan that watches every game, this was the most satisfying victory of the season for me.

I really admired DH for playing thru his injury. Jax toughening it out was nice to see as well. I have been very critical of Jax during his tenure with the Pacers, but he has gained a lot of my respect this year. It would be very easy for him to just set out a game here or there to allow himself to heal, but he is a true competitor.

Saras played very well. He has his weaknesses, which were obvious last night, but he absolutely had a positive affect on the team's play.

Finally, it was so refreshing to see the team's performance from the line last night. For me, I have always equated free-throw percentage to mental focus.

Indyfan
03-02-2006, 10:51 AM
Thanks for coming back Peck, I don't get to see the games so I always appreciate your and UB's insight after a game, as well as many others, but the two of you always seem to get things started.

I know Rick has mentioned that the players like to know what to expect as far as when they will go in and out, etc. esp for coming off the bench it is easier to keep focus knowing when you'll be called. With all our injuries and illness it has been hard to establish any kind of consistency most of the season.

Glad Runi had a good game, and so happy for David to have a great game. So good to find a way to win games instead of finding a way to lose them.

hoopsforlife
03-02-2006, 11:14 AM
I've read your posts for years so I knew you go though 'dry spells.' Even so, I did check to see if you were still posting, and when I saw your name online I knew you hadn't abandoned us.

Like everyone else I do enjoy your odd thoughts posts after games because you seem to be able to capitulate games better than anyone I've ever read.

On the other hand I think some of your thoughts truly are odd! (grin)

Another good read Peck, thanks!



"you seem to be able to "capitulate" games better than anyone I've ever read."

:jawdrop:

I hope you meant capsulate.??? :)

bulletproof
03-02-2006, 11:31 AM
We may no longer be one of the most talented teams in the NBA but I will say this for us, nobody outworks us on a nightly basis. I am more proud of that fact than I am of the fact that we have a winning record. It is a credit to the players the coach's & yes even the management that we now have a team that puts it on the line every night & only concerns itself with trying to win ballgames. I couldn't say that early in the season.

This stood out to me as the most salient observation. The thing I found most disheartening early in the season was our lack of effort and this group of guys seem to truly enjoy being out on the floor with one another. Welcome back, Peck. Hey man, you gotta write your way out of those slumps. ;)

MagicRat
03-02-2006, 12:21 PM
Good to see your back!


Look out, Peck! He's right behind you! RUN!!!!

Raskolnikov
03-02-2006, 12:38 PM
Look out, Peck! He's right behind you! RUN!!!!
:laugh:

Nice avatar, MR.

And nice read, Peck. I missed reading your thoughts, even though they're odd.

Wow, too many compliments in one post. I have to make up for that by bashing someone.

SoupIsGood, you suck!

Shade
03-02-2006, 12:46 PM
I agree about Scot's health holding out, which is why I fear we will sign Tim Thomas.

sixthman
03-02-2006, 12:54 PM
My favorite plays of the game were the passes that set-up Jack's big three late in the fourth quarter and Harrison's two consecutive blocks in the second half.

I also love it when David Hulkerizes hot shots like Arenas when they go to the hoop. Having Harrison land on your body has to dampen enthusiasm for the game and driving to the hoop just a little bit.

Enjoyed the blog Peck.

Outlaw
03-02-2006, 12:58 PM
I have said before that Sarunas has done more for David's confidence than anyone else on the team.He always gives him soft passes DH can handle and put the passes where all David has to do is go up with the ball.

As far as Cro goes I am beginning to think this is another of a long line of misdiagnosis from our medical staff.

By the way good to have you back.:dancingba

CableKC
03-02-2006, 12:59 PM
This is the first time in a long time where I have seen the Pacers down for most of the game and then fight back and not only gain a lead 1/2 through the 4th QTR.....do it with the help of the Hulk!!!!!

About what you said about signing a Big Man to a 10-day contract....not a bad idea.....if not to give some rest to either Foster, Pollard or Harrison for the long haul.

Chest Rockwell
03-02-2006, 01:59 PM
Something should be said about Jones defense, which forced Arenas to a low percentage and allowed Saras to stay out of foul trouble and keep his confidence up. If Saras had been guarding Arenas all night, he wouldn't have been as effective on offense.

Another reason why we won't be able to keep #20. It's a shame.

Will Galen
03-02-2006, 03:40 PM
"you seem to be able to "capitulate" games better than anyone I've ever read."

:jawdrop:

I hope you meant capsulate.??? :)


No, no, no, I meant Peck finally give in to 'our' wants and capitulated.

(giggle, giggle, snort)


I'm kidding of course, you are right. I must have spelled it wrong the first time because my spell checker caught it and asked me which word I meant. Obviously I clicked on the wrong word.

SoupIsGood
03-02-2006, 10:15 PM
SoupIsGood, you suck!
:disappoin

SarunasJ3
03-02-2006, 10:18 PM
Why are you thoughts always odd about the Pacers when they win lol.

Lord Helmet
03-02-2006, 10:56 PM
Like Peck, I, too get very annoyed when Danny passes a shot to Eddie Gill or someone.

I enjoy seeing Danny being a good teammate and passing the ball, and I don't want that to stop, I'd just like to see him shoot more.

denyfizle
03-03-2006, 12:01 AM
why the heck did we release Samaki Walker :crazy:

Jermaniac
03-03-2006, 12:06 AM
We couldnt afford to pay his 10 dollar a game salary.