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SwissExpress
02-25-2006, 12:33 PM
LeBron isn't always loved in Cleveland after all...



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/basketball/nba/02/25/bc.bkn.wizards.cavaliers.ap/index.html

LeBron booed at home after 0-for-8 second half

CLEVELAND (AP) -- Gilbert Arenas (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3540) has had nights like the one LeBron James (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3704) had against Washington.
Arenas scored 26 points, and the Wizards shut down James in the second half in a 102-94 win over the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/teams/cavaliers) on Friday night.
"We tried to pressure the ball, take him a little out of his game, and see if things might happen," Arenas said. "It's a real good win for us."
James finished with 25 points, but went 0-for-8 from the field and 4-for-12 from the foul line in the second half as Cleveland dropped its second straight after winning three in a row.
"I put all the blame on myself," said James, who came in averaging 35.8 points on 52 percent shooting over his previous five games. "It was a bad performance by me, simple as that."
James missed his final seven from the line -- and was even booed in the final minutes. After missing a shot from the wing with 5 seconds left, he angrily ripped off his headband, threw it into the crowd and walked off the court.
James said he "of course" heard the boos, adding, "If these fans want to boo me, it's on them."
Arenas said he's had tough nights, too.
"I had one of those in Orlando when I missed eight straight," Arenas said. "It's harder at home."
Antawn Jamison (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3247) scored 25 points and Caron Butler (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3608) added 24 as Washington snapped a four-game road losing streak. The Wizards have won 15 of their last 21 overall.
It was their second win over Cleveland this month. Arenas outscored James 32-18 in a 12-point win in Washington on Feb. 10.
James had more than shooting troubles. Early in the fourth quarter, he was fouled on a clear break to the basket, then inadvertently poked in the eye by referee Phil Robinson as he leaned in to hear the call. James didn't come out and did not seem to have any ill effects.
"Me staying out there as much as I was didn't excuse me missing all those shots and free throws," he said. "It was one of those nights."
Zydrunas Ilgauskas (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3121) had 23 points and five blocked shots for Cleveland while Donyell Marshall (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/2627) scored 13 of his 19 points in the fourth quarter to keep the Cavaliers close. But two key turnovers doomed the Cavaliers' chances.
Antonio Daniels (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/players/3175) picked off an errant pass and went end-to-end to score on a layup that put Washington ahead 90-89 with 4:37 to play.
Jamison then stole the ball from Marshall at midcourt and hit an 11-footer for a 92-87 lead with 3:37 left.
Marshall converted a three-point play to get Cleveland within 95-94 with 1:46 to go. James had a chance to put Cleveland ahead 28 seconds later, but missed both free throws -- and was booed.
"It's tough on LeBron, but this loss was not just his fault," Marshall said. "He wants to take responsibility for it, but we're not going to let him."
Marshall said James, who played all but 14 seconds, is tired from the All-Star weekend, even though the 21-year-old won't admit it.
"We all got three days rest and he didn't get any," Marshall said. "We have to be smart how we use him in games -- and in practice."
Daniels made a layup, Butler a 3-pointer and Arenas two free throws to close out the scoring.
James scored 11 points -- including eight straight -- during a 23-7 run that turned a 37-27 deficit into a 50-44 lead 2:32 before halftime.
First, James scored on a twisting drive to the basket. After Ilgauskas blocked a shot at the other end, he hit a 3-pointer from well beyond the arc to tie it at 42. Seconds after Butler made two free throws, James hit another 3 to put Cleveland ahead for the first time at 45-44.
James had 21 points in the first half and Cleveland led 54-51 at the break.
Notes: The Wizards tied a season high with 10 3-pointers, including a career-high four by Butler. ... Washington is 19-11 since Butler was put into the starting lineup Dec. 21. ... G Flip Murray, acquired Thursday from Seattle, hit his first shot for the Cavaliers, a jumper from the corner in the second quarter. Murray finished with four points and four assists in 24 minutes. ... Entertainer and Cavs minority owner Usher attended his first game of the season Tuesday, but was not back at courtside Friday. ... Jamison is expecting to get a tryout for the U.S. Olympic team. "Who wouldn't want the opportunity?" he said before the game. "I grew up watching the Dream Team. It's definitely something I want."

Moses
02-25-2006, 12:37 PM
Arenas didn't really shut down Lebron. Lebron just wasn't making anything..He went through a stretch where he didn't make 7 straight free throws.

Jermaniac
02-25-2006, 02:45 PM
He got the Fred Jones disease

fifo
02-25-2006, 04:21 PM
Stupid fans.
That was exactly the moment to cheer him up. He is so young, but allready such a huge player dammit.

Anthem
02-25-2006, 04:59 PM
It'll serve them right if he leaves.

grace
02-25-2006, 05:07 PM
It'll serve them right if he leaves.

That's exactly what Kegboy said when he told me about it.

Will Galen
02-25-2006, 05:20 PM
People have a right to boo, but it's on them too when a player decides to leave.

Jermaniac
02-25-2006, 05:20 PM
Yeah and where is Peck I havent seen PD's MVP in a long time.

DeS
02-25-2006, 05:30 PM
I don't really understand fans booing a player - it's like a sixth player pouting. This drives me mad no matter how bad my teams play.

Raskolnikov
02-25-2006, 05:37 PM
I have debated this topic, and worn it out IMO in another thread, but I see nothing wrong with booing a team/player
I can understand it when the effort is not there, not when the player/team is just having an off-night.

Which was clearly the case with Lebron. Stupid fans.

SwissExpress
02-25-2006, 06:36 PM
There was a publicized case of booing Sabonis in Europe not so long ago. That happened during the year when he came back to Europe, to his first club in order to play his retirement season.

In one of his first home games, his team was terrible and lost. The fans just got up and went out in silence, even without waiting for the official end of the game. Sabonis seemed shocked during the press conference afterwards; he said smth memorable like "I've never seen such fans before. They could have at least thanked us, supported us, applauded to us. Everyone knows we aren't bad, and we'll probably win the next game."

It makes me think that there are probably worse things than booing. Booing is still a form of communication, even though a form of angry communication. It's much worse when fans just give up on team and players for no good reason.

Still, LeBron probably did not deserve it. I think, however, that he should put much work into making his FT accuracy better. It's dissapointing that a player who might score tripple double daily is often dangerous to his own team in late moments of close games, when everything comes down to FTs.

PS: Sabonis eventually led his team very close to final four that season, losing to eventual champion Maccabi with Saras in the very last second. Sabonis himself became MVP of Euroleague's regular season and play-offs.

rel
02-25-2006, 06:53 PM
man...stephen jackson would be pretty familiar with the sound of "boo" if fans here booed a pacer for going around 0-8

rexnom
02-25-2006, 07:06 PM
I just think that LeBron is a bit overrated. As a result of this, people expect him to make all the shots he takes. He can't have off nights. That's the way it is. People forget that he just turned 21. Of course Wade and Kobe are more clutch. They are both older and much more mature. In the end LeBron isn't more clutch than say, Stephen Jackson. That is the unfortunate truth. Difference is, LeBron might improve while Jack, well, might not. In any case, this is why I'm not afraid of the Cavs in the playoffs. On a similar note, the Pacers not having clutch players is why Miami and Detroit aren't really afraid.

N8R
02-25-2006, 07:08 PM
Why boo LeBron? He is the only reason the Cavs are half decent. One off night shouldnt be booed by the 'fans.' No True fan would boo their own team no matter what. I am getting tired of all these rich Corporate people going to NBA games like it is supposed to be a show or something. Too many true fans are being pushed further and further away from the game cause of the ridiculous prices of the tickets. I think the NBA Needs to tackle this problem while they can.

Sure you will get the seat filled but it is coming to the point where some teams are losing their loyal fans due to the ticket price increase.

I true fan never boos the home team. No Matter What

Kegboy
02-25-2006, 07:09 PM
Speaking of him, where is he?

Does he still post here?

No, I just post in the BSG thread.

I wonder how they'll feel when LeBron bolts and Gilbert moves the team to Vegas. LeBron said it'd be all their fault:


"If these fans want to boo me, it's on them."

:devil:

fifo
02-25-2006, 07:12 PM
I can understand it when the effort is not there, not when the player/team is just having an off-night.

I'll go with that one.

Being 21 and booed by thousands of home fans. That's what turns a boy to a man isn't it? (or is it the other way around)? Just confused myself.

N8R
02-25-2006, 07:17 PM
Well then I guess I am not a "true" fan.

I have booed plenty of my teams, ranging from the Irish, to the Redskins, to the Pacers.

If you play with no energy, or you just plain look like **** and look like you dont care, I am going to boo you.

I can understand disappointment but I have never booed the Knicks and they are the one team in the league that deserves nothing but booing. But you have to give any team credit for giving their best. And when their best is not given I am disappointed but I still dont boo.

rexnom
02-25-2006, 07:30 PM
Not going to join in in the booing debate but I can see the rationale when the players just aren't trying or hustling. But when they are missing FTs. Really? Is that boo-worthy? In that case, what's the difference between home court and being on the road? I don't mind boos if they encourage players to hustle more but if it's just booing because a shot doesn't go in. Well, what is he supposed to do? It's not like he meant for the shot to miss.

rexnom
02-25-2006, 08:52 PM
I guess I worded that in-correctly.

I have never boo'd for a missed free throw.

My point was not husting is a huge pet peeve of mine, right up there with missing FT's

Oh, no debating that. Those are the kind of things that are just painful to watch as a fan sometime.

Shade
02-25-2006, 09:56 PM
Trade him to us, Cleveland.

SycamoreKen
02-25-2006, 10:37 PM
Are Cleveland fans stupid? You don't boo your best player and only hope your franchise will ever have of being worth a crap because he has a bad game.

Kegboy
02-25-2006, 11:12 PM
Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Sarunas Jasikevicius
6-4 SG from Maryland
8.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 3.2 apg in 23.2 minutes
Incoming

LeBron James
6-8 SF from St. Vincent-St. Mary (HS)
31.0 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 6.7 apg in 42.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: +22.5 ppg, +4.5 rpg, and +3.5 apg.

Cleveland Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

LeBron James
6-8 SF from St. Vincent-St. Mary (HS)
31.0 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 6.7 apg in 42.4 minutes
Incoming

Sarunas Jasikevicius
6-4 SG from Maryland
8.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 3.2 apg in 23.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: -22.5 ppg, -4.5 rpg, and -3.5 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to Indiana and Cleveland being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and Cleveland had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

---------------------

What? They would jump at the chance to trade a mere king for The Second Coming.

Of course, I'm sure there would be riots in the streets here over such a horrible move.

SwissExpress
02-25-2006, 11:13 PM
Eddie Gill for Lebron James :signit:

Salaries don't match. ****. Maybe Jeff Foster for Lebron James? :devil:

SwissExpress
02-25-2006, 11:16 PM
Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Sarunas Jasikevicius
6-4 SG from Maryland
8.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 3.2 apg in 23.2 minutes
Incoming

LeBron James
6-8 SF from St. Vincent-St. Mary (HS)
31.0 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 6.7 apg in 42.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: +22.5 ppg, +4.5 rpg, and +3.5 apg.


That won't work too. It would have worked before the deadline, but not in the offseason. Because Saras's salary does no increase with time, and Lebron will get 1.2 mln increase after this season...

Shade
02-25-2006, 11:37 PM
That won't work too. It would have worked before the deadline, but not in the offseason. Because Saras's salary does no increase with time, and Lebron will get 1.2 mln increase after this season...

How about Runi and Danny for LeBron? :innocent:

denyfizle
02-26-2006, 01:38 AM
They booed LeBron after going 0-8? Cleveland fans must be nutz! I wonder what they'd do if they had Stephen Jacko in their team.

#31
02-26-2006, 02:59 AM
If you play with no energy, or you just plain look like **** and look like you dont care, I am going to boo you.

With this i agree, but Lebron wasnt playing like that, he always plays with energy and always plays 110% in his games, he just had an off night once in his LIFE and what do the Fans do.. they BOO him? Thats not fair.