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    Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

    Just kidding.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060225/..._pistons_bulls


    Pistons Take Out Bulls Amid 7 Technicals By ANDREW SELIGMAN, AP Sports Writer 41 minutes ago



    CHICAGO - Michael Jordan and a few other old-timers watched bad blood return to the Detroit-Chicago rivalry on Friday night. Chauncey Billups scored 17 points and Antonio McDyess tied a season high with 16 to lift the Pistons to a 95-87 victory over the Bulls in a game that featured seven technical fouls.

    Detroit's Richard Hamilton scored 14 points before being ejected for picking up his second technical midway through the fourth quarter, after throwing an elbow toward Chicago's Kirk Hinrich. Hamilton's first technical came in the third, after he and Hinrich got tangled while fighting for rebounding position.

    The Pistons' Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace and coach Flip Saunders collected technicals, as did the Bulls' Hinrich and Andres Nocioni.

    It felt like a late 1980s/early 1990s Pistons-Bulls game, and several old-timers were in attendance — the Bulls' Jordan and John Paxson and Detroit's Joe Dumars and Bill Laimbeer.

    Billups was 4-for-14 from the field, but 8-of-9 from the free throw line and scored six points in the final 2:10. He also had 12 assists.

    McDyess shot 8-of-10, while fellow backup Maurice Evans scored 15 points.

    After scoring 28 in a victory over Indiana the previous night, Rasheed Wallace was 1-of-13 and finished with three points. He was scoreless before hitting a technical free throw just under three minutes into the fourth quarter that increased Detroit's lead to 77-72.

    Ben Gordon led the Bulls with 24 points, and Nocioni scored all of his 17 in the third quarter.

    After being blown out twice by the Pistons in December, including their most lopsided loss this season in a 28-point defeat on Dec. 16, the Bulls stayed in it until the end.

    Up 72-70 after three quarters, the Pistons maintained their lead in the fourth. Chicago pulled within two several times — the last when Darius Songaila's basket made it 87-85 with 2:37 left.

    But a jumper by Billups and Tayshaun Prince's two free throws made it 91-85 with 47 seconds left. In between, Tayshaun Prince blocked a layup by Gordon, and Billups rejected one by Luol Deng to preserve the lead.

    "They tried to beat us off the dribble as much as they can, which they did," Saunders said. "We closed things down in the stretch. We had some guys who made some big plays."

    The Pistons were ahead 52-45 early in the second when things really got heated.

    Nocioni was initially called for charging into Rasheed Wallace. The call was reversed, and Wallace, who remained sprawled on the floor, wound up with a technical and his fourth foul.

    Nocioni — whose basket was waved off, counted and waved off again — hit two free throws that cut Detroit's lead to 52-48.

    About 1:30 later, Hinrich and Hamilton got their arms tangled while jockeying for rebounding position under the Pistons' basket. That led to a double technical and a foul against Hamilton.

    "What me and him did was all in the heat of the game," Hamilton said. "When you're out there, you're trying to get the advantage over the guy you're going against. And that's me trying to get my advantage."

    Although he had nothing negative to say about Hinrich, Hamilton said Bulls coach Scott Skiles talked trash throughout the game.

    "I kept hearing someone talking slick from behind me," Hamilton said. "I'm like, 'Who is talking to me?' Me and Hinrich had a little battle going on, but that's all fun and games. I kept hearing someone behind me, and I turned around and it was him.

    "My thing is your job is to coach the team," he continued. "Your job is not to say stuff to me, and that's what got me (ticked) off."

    Hamilton thought that might have contributed to his second technical, because the referees were telling him to ignore Skiles.

    Skiles would not elaborate on anything he said to Hamilton. But he had plenty to say about how the Pistons treat the referees.

    "They literally complain about every call all night long," Skiles said. "They are having a great year doing it. I'm not sure what that says."

    Do they bully officials?

    "I would never say that," Skiles said.

    Hamilton said he couldn't remember the last time he was tossed. But he did recall discussing the subject with Rasheed Wallace, who has collected a technical or two during his career.

    The irony wasn't lost on Hamilton.

    "I was talking to Rasheed about his technicals," he said. "And I was looking at mine, and I was like, 'I've only got two technicals. I feel good.' Now I've got three technicals in the last two games."
    Notes@: The Pistons cruised to a 92-79 victory in Chicago on Dec. 3, wiping out a 15-point second-quarter deficit, then beat the Bulls 110-82 in the second meeting of the season. ... Gordon scored 12 points in the first quarter on Friday night, but managed just 12 the rest of the way. ... The Bulls' Tyson Chandler grabbed 11 rebounds, his 13th consecutive game with 10 or more. ... Chicago veteran Malik Allen hit the first 3-pointer of his career.
    “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

    “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird
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    Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

    Our whole starting 5 played awful. I'm not even sure "awful" is a strong enough word.

    If it wasn't for our bench, we wouldn't have won tonight. Our bench was HUGE in every way.

    Defining moment of the night was the and-1 that wasn't. If it wasn't for Bill Laimbeer yelling over the scorer's table at the officials that the ball never actually went IN the basket, the Bulls would have been awarded a phantom basket .

    Oh well, I'm proud of them for keeping their composure in the 4th quarter and making the game-winning plays.

    First off, coaches should not be talking **** to players not on their own team. That said, Rip had zero excuse for getting himself tossed. Hopefully he learns from this and doesn't put his team in such a situation again. Seriously, Rip. Just keep raining jumpers on his team and let your game do the talking for you.

    And Skiles, you're the last person on earth that has the right to call someone else a crybaby. You complain ENDLESSLY about everything imaginable. You threw a tantrum at the refs not awarding you a phantom field goal. You trash talked OUR players from the sideline. It's bad enough when PLAYERS do it, but you're the freaking COACH.

    As for the Bulls themselves, well, if someone came into MY house and beat my *** 12 straight times, I'd be a little bitter too. Also didn't help that the Pistons fans nearly outnumbered the Bulls fans....

    End of story, we get 5 techs, we lose Rip for the 4th quarter, half our team sits on the bench in foul trouble, we manage to win anyway, on the road no less. It's a plus in my book.

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      Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

      It was great getting a bench win. We were handing them points off techs, our starters couldn't hit a damn thing, it was a B2B on the road, and our go-to guy was out for the 4th quarter in a close game. But Dice, Delfino, Mo, and Lindsey just dominated out there. Dice wouldn't miss on that mid-range J, Evans was raining in triples, and Delfino/Hunter were locking down on the other end. Great win.

      P.S. Skiles is a punk.
      P.P.S. lol at Sheed going 1 for 13 after absolutely lighting it up last night. Figures.

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        Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

        Originally posted by Los Angeles
        "They literally complain about every call all night long," Skiles said. "They are having a great year doing it. I'm not sure what that says."
        they are a bunch of whiners and they are doing whatever it takes to win. no ethics at all.

        plus they have the most classles fans in the sports.
        i think they are the only team in the word that wast majority of their fans are ********.

        and thats why i have always hated them and will never respect them.

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        • #5
          Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

          Originally posted by granger
          they are a bunch of whiners and they are doing whatever it takes to win. no ethics at all.

          plus they have the most classles fans in the sports.
          i think they are the only team in the word that wast majority of their fans are ********.

          and thats why i have always hated them and will never respect them.
          I have to disagree. I don't know about them being ********, but if they are, they just can't be classless at the same time... Because the whole concept of bad ******* winners is classy.

          Detroit's players might not be the most interesting to watch, and their fans get a lot of opposing guys disqualified and thus destroy many great and beautifull tactical ideas of opposing coaches, but teams like that make NBA much more interesting in the long term.

          The whole 80s-early 90s would have been less interesting without Bill Lambeer and Detroit. I'm sure that will be very usual to say about nowadays someday.

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          • #6
            Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

            How many T's is that for Rasheed now? 13 or 14? He may end up missing a game or two.

            Does the number of T's get reset for the playoffs, or would he be suspended for a game every time he got T'd up in the playoffs, too?
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            • #7
              Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

              Originally posted by granger
              they are a bunch of whiners and they are doing whatever it takes to win. no ethics at all.

              plus they have the most classles fans in the sports.
              i think they are the only team in the word that wast majority of their fans are ********.

              and thats why i have always hated them and will never respect them.

              I wish I could be as classy and as well respected as you are. This post screams "classy Pacer fan".

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              • #8
                Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

                Skiles is a punk. Always has been, always will be.

                Just proves that a tiger can't change his stripes.

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                • #9
                  Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

                  "They literally complain about every call all night long," Skiles said. "They are having a great year doing it. I'm not sure what that says."


                  Skiles is an ***, but the Pistons should probably be more aware of their glassy surroundings...

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                  • #10
                    Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

                    Originally posted by granger
                    classles fans in the sports.
                    i think they are the only team in the word that wast majority of their fans are ********.
                    ......and you are just the epitome of class. We should all strive to be the quality person you are.

                    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

                      Originally posted by Mr._Basketball
                      Skiles is a punk. Always has been, always will be.

                      Just proves that a tiger can't change his stripes.
                      Oh god, No more head coach to animal comparisons..I've heard enough Carlisle ones to last me for the rest of my life.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

                        Punk or not, he's right.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

                          First of all Skiles does not complain about every single call. That would be the Wallaces. Secondly, if you're going to let the opposing coach get into your head then there is something wrong with you. Thirdly, if you're going to throw an elbow that is going to get you thrown out then you better make it at least look harder than something I could throw.

                          Now, as for the Pistons fans I'm not going to say they're all classless. I will however say that the ones I've seen close up are .

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                          • #14
                            Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

                            Originally posted by grace
                            First of all Skiles does not complain about every single call. That would be the Wallaces. Secondly, if you're going to let the opposing coach get into your head then there is something wrong with you. Thirdly, if you're going to throw an elbow that is going to get you thrown out then you better make it at least look harder than something I could throw.

                            Now, as for the Pistons fans I'm not going to say they're all classless. I will however say that the ones I've seen close up are .
                            Don't thank me, I'll kill ya.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Pistons get 5 techs vs Bulls - League tries to decide what Pacer to suspend

                              Originally posted by SwissExpress

                              Detroit's players might not be the most interesting to watch, and their fans get a lot of opposing guys disqualified and thus destroy many great and beautifull tactical ideas of opposing coaches, but teams like that make NBA much more interesting in the long term.
                              a lot?? Sorry, but only Pacer players let the Pistons fans get into their heads. And in both cases the main culprit had a history of being a headcase (Artest and Harrison).

                              Please tell me someone on a team other than the Pacers that has been "disqualified" due to an incident with a Piston fan.

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