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Brian
02-13-2006, 11:29 AM
I woke up this morning and turned on espn2 and they were saying that Jonathon Bender is supposed to be on cold pizza sometime today.


Just thought id give everyone a heads up.

Hicks
02-13-2006, 11:32 AM
Wow. Judging by your title, you were really excited about this. ;)

Brian
02-13-2006, 11:40 AM
Coming up next....

Brian
02-13-2006, 11:50 AM
Heres a question I always wondered.Should have JonaTHIN tried some kind of steroids?.Not to the Sosa/Mcguire extreme,but something.

Doug
02-13-2006, 11:51 AM
Heres a question I always wondered.Should have JonaTHIN tried some kind of steroids?.Not to the Sosa/Mcguire extreme,but something.

Do they have steroids that build knee cartilage?

Brian
02-13-2006, 11:55 AM
Do they have steroids that build knee cartilage?


Yeah...I have a bad knee,they were going to put me on some kind of steroid for my knee.But it wasnt a sosa type thing.

diamonddave00
02-13-2006, 02:24 PM
When I tore up my left knee - ripping the knee loose from the lower leg they inserted stabilizing pins and told me the only hope for none bone on bone rub was for scar tissue to develop where the cartlidge was ripped away.

Some people have had success in less rubbing from injections of chicken comb into the knee to act as a buffer. This helps to a point but in Jonathan Bender's case attempting to play pro ball with bone and bone is extremely painful and will just result in total deteriation of all remaining cartlidge.

JB had no real choice in the matter.

Hicks
02-13-2006, 02:32 PM
So what did he say?

btowncolt
02-13-2006, 02:33 PM
So what did he say?

I know, post a thread title with that much caps and then not tell us what he said? Man.

:tongue:

obnoxiousmodesty
02-13-2006, 02:38 PM
Bender didn't make it in for the interview by the end of the show. They said something about possibly airing the interview between 12 and 2, but I stopped watching.

Brian
02-13-2006, 02:46 PM
Hes on next

Doug
02-13-2006, 02:46 PM
/insert tired old 'he hurt himself on the way to the interview' joke here
//feels sorry for Jon
///at least it's over

Brian
02-13-2006, 02:54 PM
Hes on NOW!!

cramerica
02-13-2006, 02:54 PM
You know, I don't think I've ever heard him speak.

Brian
02-13-2006, 02:59 PM
Bender says he hoped,to get into NBA...when he got over the hype,it was another goal to be the best in the NBA.

What went wrong,he says stuff he did growing up hurt his knees.He said his first few years he knees werent too bad.But now hes knees are always swollen.

He said he was just trying to stay sane while he was on IR.Says after 2nd straight summer of all the training,and nothing working was when he basically knew he was over with.

He looked at his MRI's and saw his knees looked like two bricks shaving together.

Says he cant watch NBA too much,it bothers him too bad.

Hes still rehabing his knees.Hes going into real estate.Starting clothing line.


The interview started at 1:57pm and ended at 2pm,he had more he wanted to say,but they cut him off.

Since86
02-13-2006, 03:08 PM
Yeah...I have a bad knee,they were going to put me on some kind of steroid for my knee.But it wasnt a sosa type thing.


I imagine they wanted to give you cortisone shots, which is a steriod but definately not the way your thinking. A friend had to get them for baseball, due to him having little cartilidge left in his throwing shoulder. It's a liquid that pads the area, which worked for a few weeks for him due to it being a non-weight baring joint.

There is no injection to build back cartilidge. It's impossible to do. You can tear your cartilidge and it can grow back together, but if you lose it, it's gone.

From what I've been told from an EXSCI prof at BSU, who's very respected in his field, they've been experimenting with other methods to recreate human like cartilidge. He's said they've looked at using pigs knee cartlildge which is very similiar, and even placing rubber discs in the joint.

Knees are a very sensitive area in sports, especially high-impact sports such as basketball.

Brian
02-13-2006, 03:44 PM
I imagine they wanted to give you cortisone shots, which is a steriod but definately not the way your thinking. A friend had to get them for baseball, due to him having little cartilidge left in his throwing shoulder. It's a liquid that pads the area, which worked for a few weeks for him due to it being a non-weight baring joint.

There is no injection to build back cartilidge. It's impossible to do. You can tear your cartilidge and it can grow back together, but if you lose it, it's gone.

From what I've been told from an EXSCI prof at BSU, who's very respected in his field, they've been experimenting with other methods to recreate human like cartilidge. He's said they've looked at using pigs knee cartlildge which is very similiar, and even placing rubber discs in the joint.

Knees are a very sensitive area in sports, especially high-impact sports such as basketball.


Yes,they wanted to give me a shot,and an oral steroid.But of course this was actually for 2 injuries (I should have said that earlier).1 was for my knee,and the other was for my right shoulder.Basketball and Baseball injuries.

fwpacerfan
02-13-2006, 03:48 PM
Is there any recourse for the Pacers in regards to his contract? I know he didn't retire so he could collect his $, according to Sports Illustrated. Is there a way for the Pacers to get cap relief without him retiring?

Brian
02-13-2006, 03:56 PM
Is there any recourse for the Pacers in regards to his contract? I know he didn't retire so he could collect his $, according to Sports Illustrated. Is there a way for the Pacers to get cap relief without him retiring?


I have no idea.With that new CBA, who knows?.

FrenchConnection
02-13-2006, 03:56 PM
Is there any recourse for the Pacers in regards to his contract? I know he didn't retire so he could collect his $, according to Sports Illustrated. Is there a way for the Pacers to get cap relief without him retiring?

My understanding is that him not retiring is actually in part a favor for us. Think about it; Reggie retired and we were still on the hook for his entire salary and it counted against the cap and would have for LT purposes if we had not "Allen Houstoned" him. If he is forced to stop playing due to injury, then we can apply for LT/cap relief so that his salary comes off of the books both for this year and next. However, I may be wrong.

fwpacerfan
02-13-2006, 03:58 PM
My understanding is that him not retiring is actually in part a favor for us. Think about it; Reggie retired and we were still on the hook for his entire salary and it counted against the cap and would have for LT purposes if we had not "Allen Houstoned" him. If he is forced to stop playing due to injury, then we can apply for LT/cap relief so that his salary comes off of the books both for this year and next. However, I may be wrong.


I hope you are right. The Reggie point makes sense. I would also think that Bird/Walsh knew this was coming and didn't "Allan Houston" him when they had the chance so they must have a plan in place.

Anthem
02-13-2006, 04:53 PM
My understanding is that him not retiring is actually in part a favor for us. Think about it; Reggie retired and we were still on the hook for his entire salary and it counted against the cap and would have for LT purposes if we had not "Allen Houstoned" him. If he is forced to stop playing due to injury, then we can apply for LT/cap relief so that his salary comes off of the books both for this year and next. However, I may be wrong.
That actually makes a lot of sense.

You listening, bball?

Mr.ThunderMakeR
02-13-2006, 07:22 PM
WARNING: Extreme vulgarity to follow!

Anyone ever seen that South Park where one of the kids wants to be a basketball player so he gets a bunch of plastic surgery so he can be tall and black? One of the things he has done is has someones balls implanted in his knee.

Maybe thats Bender's solution?

Of course they explode after he jumps the first time lol.

Bball
02-13-2006, 07:27 PM
That actually makes a lot of sense.

You listening, bball?

All I know is a lot of people have a lot of ideas, theories, opinions, readings, etc of how Bender will impact (Thanks Jay!) our future payroll and LT situation and every day I wake up Bender is still on the payroll and still counting toward the LT.

-Bball

sixthman
02-13-2006, 09:56 PM
All I know is a lot of people have a lot of ideas, theories, opinions, readings, etc of how Bender will impact (Thanks Jay!) our future payroll and LT situation and every day I wake up Bender is still on the payroll and still counting toward the LT.

-Bball

I thought it was general consensus that if the League and Union appointed medical people say he can no longer play in the NBA due to permanent injury, that his salary will be paid mostly by insurance and the Pacers won't have to pay any luxury tax on Jon's salary this year or next. Apparently though the medical decision won't be made until this summer, but if the decision is favorable his salary will come off the luxury tax books this year. Essentially the same situation as the Allen Houston retirement.

Kaufman
02-14-2006, 07:56 AM
JB will end up getting artificial knee transplants. Its the best technology we have in this kind of business at that time.

As far as steroids go, it doesn't pad the joint, it doesn't rebuild cartiledge.
Steroids are anti-inflammatories. Antiinflammatories are classified into two groups -

NSAIDS - (Non-steroidal anti-inflammatories)
Steroids

Basically steroid injections relief pressure around the joint, and swelling, which is all a result of inflammation that occurs.

Kaufman
02-14-2006, 01:51 PM
Your ligaments would not burst inside your knee with a cortisone shot. I can usually decipher a lot about what another person has been told by a doctor and misinterpreted, but this time I'm not quite sure what your doctor was trying to get across to you. :( sorry.