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Will Galen
02-05-2006, 10:27 AM
I started keeping Dans stats since game 41. I meant to start mid year just to check how he was doing, but that actually starts with game 42. I goofed, but I guess that is close enough. (grin)

I really think if he would get the minutes he would give Paul a run for rookie of the year.

Mpg. 30.8

FG .520- 26/50

3P .500- 7/14

FT .800- 12/15

OR 3.8

TR 10.4

AS 1.6

ST .04

B 0.6

PTS 14.2

Moses
02-05-2006, 12:33 PM
I started keeping Dans stats since game 41. I meant to start mid year just to check how he was doing, but that actually starts with game 42. I goofed, but I guess that is close enough. (grin)

I really think if he would get the minutes he would give Paul a run for rookie of the year.

Mpg. 30.8

FG .520- 26/50

3P .500- 7/14

FT .800- 12/15

OR 3.8

TR 10.4

AS 1.6

ST .04

B 0.6

PTS 14.2
Definitely having a huge impact on our team and I do agree he could give Paul a run for his money. I'm not so sure after watching Chris Paul on sportscenter last night against the Lakers, I have to say the guy is simply amazing and is destined to be a big time PG in this league. He's putting up all-star numbers his rookie year. I'd watch out for the Hornets in the future, they are looking pretty damn strong right now with all their young guns.

Unclebuck
02-05-2006, 01:34 PM
The stats don't even tell half of what he brings

SoupIsGood
02-05-2006, 01:35 PM
He makes plays when you need them. As a rookie, his performance under pressure is amazing.

rexnom
02-05-2006, 02:01 PM
If we could the draft all over again and I would pick Granger ahead of any player outside of Chris Paul.

There are so many good things about Granger. I would name them all but we all know why he's the Pacers's best pick since Reggie. And still, I would just be gushing...

Mourning
02-05-2006, 02:07 PM
If we could the draft all over again and I would pick Granger ahead of any player outside of Chris Paul.

There are so many good things about Granger. I would name them all but we all know why he's the Pacers's best pick since Reggie. And still, I would just be gushing...

I wouldn't go THAT far, but I would certainly put him at 4 or 5.

Anthem
02-05-2006, 05:48 PM
Agreed. I can't believe how lucky we are he fell to us.

Of course, I also can't believe how lucky we are Harrison fell all the way to the bottom of the first round. Or that Fred... ok never mind. When we picked that year, my first thought was "Fred Who?"

317Kim
02-05-2006, 05:50 PM
Fred Jones. WHO!? Fred Jones.

14, 29, and 17 :cloud9:

FreshPrince22
02-05-2006, 05:53 PM
Danny rocks. I love his nose for the ball, and smooth offensive game.

Paul is in a different league though. That kid is a bonafide star right now.

Pacersfan46
02-05-2006, 05:55 PM
Danny rocks. I love his nose for the ball.

Paul is in a different league though. That kid is a bonafide star right now.

I think Danny could be much the same if he was taken by ... say ... Toronto. Where I think he should have gone anyway. I'm glad he didn't. :-p

FreshPrince22
02-05-2006, 05:58 PM
I think Danny could be much the same if he was taken by ... say ... Toronto. Where I think he should have gone anyway. I'm glad he didn't. :-p

Yea, some GMs are absolute morons. Danny wasn't exactly a hidden secret either.

SoupIsGood
02-05-2006, 06:00 PM
Agreed. I can't believe how lucky we are he fell to us.

Of course, I also can't believe how lucky we are Harrison fell all the way to the bottom of the first round. Or that Fred... ok never mind. When we picked that year, my first thought was "Fred Who?"

When we drafted David, my first thought was "Great, we drafted Fatty McShortArms." :unimpress

317Kim
02-05-2006, 06:04 PM
When we drafted David, my first thought was "Great, we drafted Fatty McShortArms." :unimpress

:lol:

that's changed a lot hasnt it! :-p

owl
02-05-2006, 10:35 PM
When we drafted David, my first thought was "Great, we drafted Fatty McShortArms." :unimpress

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++

I was at Iowa State University for some continuing ed that night. I was
dancing a jig when he was picked. That was my pick for the Pacers
before the draft. He is getting better and have some hope he will still
fill his potential. It is all upstairs for David.


owl

Anthem
02-06-2006, 02:27 AM
I'm still shocked by that... a rookie that's a 15 and 10 player? That we got at #17? Are you kidding me?

Will Galen
02-06-2006, 05:19 AM
I'm still shocked by that... a rookie that's a 15 and 10 player? That we got at #17? Are you kidding me?

The evidence suggests that for a time he would get JO numbers (20-10) if he got JO time.

I say for a time, because if he got JO numbers, teams would start keying their defense on him.

Which leads me to a thought that I hadn't had before. Dannny Granger could be better than JO. Obviously not right this moment, but it might not take too long. Look at Bosh, he's putting up JO like numbers and this is his 3rd year.

Trader Joe
02-06-2006, 12:27 PM
Granger is not the same player as JO. More athletic and he has a better jump shot. Does not have the ability to play the post as well tho.

mugsy27
02-06-2006, 01:54 PM
can someone refresh my memory...what were the knocks against granger at draft time?

Anthem
02-06-2006, 01:58 PM
Granger is not the same player as JO. More athletic and he has a better jump shot. Does not have the ability to play the post as well tho.
No doubt. Obviously, he's not a natural PF. But I think Will means he could be in the top 5 at his position in a couple of years.

Pacersfan46
02-06-2006, 02:59 PM
Granger is not the same player as JO. More athletic and he has a better jump shot. Does not have the ability to play the post as well tho.
The times I've seen him with the ball, and his back to the basket, I was extremely impressed with his post game on offense. It just doesn't happen all that often. At New Mexico from my understanding that's what they asked from him all the time.

Granted, I haven't seen any part of his game that's not damn well polished for a veteran. Especially for a rookie.


can someone refresh my memory...what were the knocks against granger at draft time?
Knee injury? Tying in with the previous quote I replied to, his perimeter game is what was considered to need work at the time. Assist/turnover ratio wasn't stellar. All minor complaints when looking at the entire package.

Hicks
02-06-2006, 03:18 PM
I've seen signs that he has a post game. Not nearly as refined as JO's, but I wouldn't put it past him to learn. And didn't he use a post game more in college? New Mexico fans?

sweabs
02-06-2006, 03:19 PM
I've seen signs that he has a post game. Not nearly as refined as JO's, but I wouldn't put it past him to learn. And didn't he use a post game more in college? New Mexico fans?

I believe that he did play with more of a post game in college. In fact, I seem to remember reading an article that said he didn't even start shooting the 3-ball until his last year in college or so.

Kent_Brockman
02-06-2006, 03:38 PM
can someone refresh my memory...what were the knocks against granger at draft time?

Here's what I can think of offhand:
The proverbial jack of all trades, master of none
durability (only missed 3 games at New Mexico)
average athlete
played against lower-tier competition (this one always makes me mad because the gap isn't as big as everyone makes it out to be)
stamina issues (New Mexico only gave 7 players significant playing time last year and only 6 when the starting point guard went down for the season)
perimeter skills need improving


I want to address that last one. I always saw Danny as a small forward forced to play power forward. He had good post moves, but he wasn't your traditional post player in the sense that he used primarily his quickness to score in the post. He can score in the post but I wouldn't consider that a great strength right now. He had a great perimeter game for a power forward and New Mexico used him at point forward a number of times.

The assist to turnover ratio complaint is a joke. How many college power forwards have a positive ratio? Plus he was the #1 option at New Mexico and there were times where he tried to do too much.

The GMs that picked ahead of the Pacers were stupid because all of the weaknesses weren't major and Granger had no character issues whatsoever.

Pig Nash
02-06-2006, 05:17 PM
Hey, I think Charlie V has been a big surprise too. I thought he might slip down to us, but I guess it's all for the best.

317Kim
02-06-2006, 06:08 PM
Danny Granger= Most underrated player in College Baskeball last year.
Don't Believe me? Watch this: http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplayli...segment=147804

First time I've seen that. It's great! Heart of a Champ!

FreshPrince22
02-06-2006, 06:42 PM
can someone refresh my memory...what were the knocks against granger at draft time?

His health was the reason for people passing on him. He has had back and knee issues (and those are bad areas to have an injury history). He had to miss at least a few games every season, and the general thought was that he'd have a tough time holding up over an 82 game season. We will see though.

SoupIsGood
02-06-2006, 07:30 PM
His health was the reason for people passing on him. He has had back and knee issues (and those are bad areas to have an injury history). He had to miss at least a few games every season, and the general thought was that he'd have a tough time holding up over an 82 game season. We will see though.

IIRC, the injury issues were also overblown.

I think the big deal was the "weak conference" deal, the "jack of all trades but master of none," and the fact that he was somehow weak athletically. He got branded unfairly as a career roleplayer IMO.

Kent_Brockman
02-06-2006, 07:38 PM
First time I've seen that. It's great! Heart of a Champ!

It's a great vid and I never get tired watching it. The thing about Danny was that he was amazingly consistent and it got to the point where you expected him to make a great play every game.

loborick
02-06-2006, 08:22 PM
Right, Kent. DG was the one that made the play that either put the game away or put us back in the game. He has the heart of a warrior and will do whatever is necessary to win. Sometimes that wasn't going one on one and scoring. It may have been a pass, a pick, a steal... He is a jack of all trades...but he's pretty darn good at everything! Those teams that passed over him didn't look at those intangibles that make him a special player. He is the most unselfish star I've ever seen.

LOBOMIKE
02-08-2006, 03:57 PM
Yeah, Danny can do it all and that's what he did at UNM. He did plenty of damage in the post and on the boards, but his perimeter skills were awesome for someone 6'9". He handles the ball well and has a sweet outside stroke. Plus, his defense was very good. He guarded bigger guys in the post or guards at times. His help defense was as good as I've seen at the college level.

Us Lobo fans actually got to see DG and Chris Paul on the same floor a couple of times. You could tell those two players were on a different level than everybody else out there.

waxman
02-08-2006, 04:40 PM
I don't know how scouts saw him as athletically average... His speed, agility, and leaping ability seem above average to me. He has a prototype NBA body for a small forward. I think were just scraping the surface of what he's capable of at this point.

He's still seems a little tentative with ball handling at the NBA level... when in the UNM videos he seems more than capable. At some point i'd like to see him grab a defensive board and push the ball upcourt himself... rather than waiting for AJ or Runi to come back to him.

He's just a rook though...i guess i can be patient.