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Unclebuck
01-27-2006, 11:30 PM
Most fun game I've been to all season, even though they lost.

What tonight proved is how important effort and playing together is. That is half the battle right there. Any team that does those two things, will be at the very least a decent team.

Let me get to some specifics.

Wow, how good was Danny Granger tonight. Yes his stats were nice, but that doesn't tell even half the story on how well he played tonight. He is the Pacers best rebounder. he gets the Jeff Foster type rebounds, the out of nowhere, swoop in and grab it, but what is even more impressive is he gets the Dale Davis type rebounds, the tough defensive type rebounds Dale was so good at - man type rebounds.

Danny defense on Lebron was also really good, he got beat a few times but overall he kept Bron in front of him and was able to pressure him. DG is probably the most fundamentally sound defensive player the Pacers have had in quite awhile. (well since McKey) Granger's play was inspiring tonight and very exciting for me.


Harrison played fairly well tonight, in fact he played pretty well. But I wanted to strangle him also. I was screaming, something I rarely do. Stop fouling Z, make him hit a shot. I kicked the chair in front of me.

But DH gave everything he had tonight, and that is what is most important to me, so I hope he can build on this. (not to nitpik, but why doesn't DH dunk the ball or try to dunk the ball, he throws some soft stuff up there

But hey at least I cared tonight though.


Fred was unstoppable at times in the second half.

I just wonder what a lineup of Saras, Fred, Peja and DG pcan do. Yes I know Peja and Granger are both small forwards, but they will both need to play, so you play them together and just matchup as best you can.

Wow, Ron looks strange in that purple, I just saw some of his highlights.

For the first time in a long time I enjoyed a Pacers game, thanks mostly to Granger. His offensive game has improved 10 fold in the past 6 weeks. he was taking people of the dribble tonight

Mordecaii
01-27-2006, 11:33 PM
I agree, I think Danger feels a lot more comfortable and like he is free to try and create out there instead of just passing the ball around... I think that Fred had a huge game and I hope we do all we can to resign him if he keeps playing like this.

DG-33
01-27-2006, 11:33 PM
I was creaming, something I rarely do.
http://www.pacersdigest.com/forums/images/smilies/confused_pd.gif

sweabs
01-27-2006, 11:41 PM
:confused:

:lmao:

Unclebuck has a knack for making those errant typos in the worst situations. That's another keeper - almost on par with "shotcock*.

marcd
01-27-2006, 11:44 PM
Buck

I agree, it is fun to watch again. I can't wait until Tuesday. Peja and Granger together is going to be fun to watch. I am looking forward to a lineup of Runi, Jones, Peja, Granger and Harrison.

I think you will see these guys play with a lot of heart from here on out. The fact that there are no more distractions to deal with can let these guys play loose. Rick really seemed to let the reigns go tonight. They played some free-wheeling ball tonight. Now if we can get Jackson to stop doing his best "Travis Best impersonation" we might be ok. The crowd really seemed to get into it in the 4th, thought for a few minutes they might will them to a win. Losing Harrison really hurt, the fact that they didn't bother to call the foul on Ilgouskus really hurt, would have put us up and the offensive foul on Granger when he hit the shot hurt as well.

If that is what happens when you play young guys with passion, I'll take it. Damn fun basketball again!

MarcD

DG-33
01-27-2006, 11:46 PM
Fast paced, free flowing offenses are so much more fun to watch.

317Kim
01-28-2006, 12:14 AM
Tonight was a fun loss..(oxymorons :laugh:) We played HARD! Good effort no where near lackadaisical tonight!! Very :proud:! and DANGER AND FRED WERE SIMPLY AMAZING!

Unclebuck
01-28-2006, 12:16 AM
:lmao:

Unclebuck has a knack for making those errant typos in the worst situations. That's another keeper - almost on par with "shotcock*.


I'm here for your entertainment

hoopsforlife
01-28-2006, 12:36 AM
I switched back and forth between the Sacramento/Boston game. I thought the Pacers played a very good game tonight. This team plays better with Danny in there. They hustle better and scrap for every loose ball. We were 1 shooter (Peja) from winning this game tonight.

This was the first game I saw them play since *** left that I've really enjoyed watching. Is it a coincidence that they played without JO and Tinsley and the game was exciting to watch?

Peck
01-28-2006, 12:40 AM
He is the Pacers best rebounder. he gets the Jeff Foster type rebounds, the out of nowhere, swoop in and grab it, but what is even more impressive is he gets the Dale Davis type rebounds, the tough defensive type rebounds Dale was so good at - man type rebounds.

Yip, remember when people laughed at me for saying Danny would lead the team in rebounds in my pre-season prediction.

If J.O. stays out, & Foster doesn't get back to his old self then my thoughts will come true on this.

I don't know how this forum will be though, you & I have never had a time where we agreed on favorite players. :D

Get some offense into Danny & watch out world.

Did LaBron really out play him last night? I don't think so.

Game ball to whoever called for the motovational meetings. If it was Bird, Walsh or even the Simons I don't care. Great timing on those.

Peck
01-28-2006, 12:41 AM
I switched back and forth between the Sacramento/Boston game. I thought the Pacers played a very good game tonight. This team plays better with Danny in there. They hustle better and scrap for every loose ball. We were 1 shooter (Peja) from winning this game tonight.

This was the first game I saw them play since *** left that I've really enjoyed watching. Is it a coincidence that they played without JO and Tinsley and the game was exciting to watch?


Nope.

PacerCrazy
01-28-2006, 12:52 AM
This was by faaaaaaarrrrrr the best game I have been to in 2 years. Even though we lost tonight being in the fieldhouse reminded me why i Love the pacers. The energy in the building was amazing and the fans were great. What an effort. Hopefully we build on this and win the next one.

PS Imagine Danger in 3 years!!!!

NorCal_Pacerfan
01-28-2006, 12:54 AM
This thread is crackin' me up.

But I'm sooo glad this game was on tv. Man, I love to watch Danger when he plays like that. Exciting.

Trader Joe
01-28-2006, 12:57 AM
PS Imagine Danger in 3 years!!!!

*Drools all over himself and thinks, "MMMMMMM, Danger in 3 years makes me happy." Drools some more*

Bball
01-28-2006, 01:17 AM
I was proud of them as well. That game was a display of "playing the right way". Do that long enough and it will pay dividends.

I've already said that I believe the team plays better without JO on the court. If they don't actually play better, it sure looks that way to me. I don't know whether to blame the player or the system but I know what I see so it didn't suprise me to see them find some effort and competitiveness without him this evening. I'm not down on JO per se' but I'm down on seeing the team play when he's on the court. Potentially, of course the team SHOULD be better with JO... but potential is one thing, reality another.

I had no idea Tinsley was going to miss this game. That didn't bother me at all at this point. A: I'm numb to it... B: If Tinsley never suits up again for the Pacers I'm fine with that (He can take his act (and attitude) elsewhere). I am 'down' on Tinsley. I see no potential for redemption here.

I've also posted that just when you think Carlisle is losing the team (or already lost them) he manages to pull them together. I still can't help to believe this ability will run out of gas sometime. Then again, a coaching vote of confidence from upstairs dictated to the players might be at play here (IOW, maybe TPTB informed the lunatics they won't be running the asylum plus Carlisle will be here longer than them).

OK...speculation over...

Congrats to the team. Keep it up. Welcome Peja. Way to go Granger!!

-Bball

SycamoreKen
01-28-2006, 01:23 AM
Buck

I agree, it is fun to watch again. I can't wait until Tuesday. Peja and Granger together is going to be fun to watch. I am looking forward to a lineup of Runi, Jones, Peja, Granger and Harrison.

I think you will see these guys play with a lot of heart from here on out. The fact that there are no more distractions to deal with can let these guys play loose. Rick really seemed to let the reigns go tonight. They played some free-wheeling ball tonight. Now if we can get Jackson to stop doing his best "Travis Best impersonation" we might be ok. The crowd really seemed to get into it in the 4th, thought for a few minutes they might will them to a win. Losing Harrison really hurt, the fact that they didn't bother to call the foul on Ilgouskus really hurt, would have put us up and the offensive foul on Granger when he hit the shot hurt as well.

If that is what happens when you play young guys with passion, I'll take it. Damn fun basketball again!

MarcD

I think the call against Granger was a travel wasn't it. Not much different than Z. was doing, but that's the life of a rookie/young player. David had a few go against him as well. I liked that they didn't sit and complain about it and kept playing. Let the fans complain, just put your head down and go.

I agree with the Jax/Best comparison. His defense was o.k., but I was hoping he would stay out of the game on offense because he brought it to a screeching halt. He showed his basketball IQ at time by not realizing he didn't have the hot hand and not getting i to the guys that did.

Overall though, I enjoyed the way they played.

Youman
01-28-2006, 02:04 AM
the game for us! but...

:censored: Jack! Yes he did score 14 points, but he slowed the tempo of the game all night, with his ball-hogging, shooting terrible shots and how he dose not pass the ball.

Rick needs to bench him :confused: and Larry & Donnie need to trade him. Or he needs to learn how to play offence whatever style that may be. Because it is going change to, it has to!

I very well could see with what has happened with picking up Peja & O'Neal being out for 8 weeks the team could play .500 ball with the heart they showed tonight. Now adding Peja in the mix I could see the team going in the mold of a European/Phoenix type offense, and just maybe with a little have more intensity on the defense end.

Granger looked like a future 1st team All-Defensive player tonight. He showed me signs of the Matrix and Scotty Pippen with his all around game.

Jasikevicius made some good plays too. And some bad ones. In fact I'll give him Harrison props to. The calls that went against him were total B.S. at least most of them. I can't believe he kept his cool & didn't get a T.
But who am I to say? I didn't have the best seats in the house tonight. So maybe I'm wrong. It wasen't a good night for AC either but we should know by now that's to be expected.

I was really proud to be at the game surround by bandwagon Cavs fans chearing on the ol' Blue & Gold!
I think this team has got the potential to be great if pieced right. I guess we will just have to just sit & watch.

1 final note to end the night..
See ya west Artest, tell Arnold I said hi. A$$ CLOWN!

waterjater
01-28-2006, 04:52 AM
I enjoyed it as well. You can handle a close loss when the team gives EFFORT!! And tonight there was effort and passion.

Ilgauskas got way too many FTs, but we still had our shot to win and didn't convert late, but it wasn't for a lack of effort. The shots didn't go down.

Give the fans this effort and they'll win the crowd and start winning games again!

A yes, it is NOT a coincidence that the game moved well and the passion was there with JO and Tins on the sideline. I don't know why Carlisle changes the offense with JO. There is absolutely no reason why he can't play in a motion style offense. When Saras is in, JO constantly gets the great feed on the move for an easy shot or layup. NO REASON to run that post up boring **** when JO returns.

Water

Unclebuck
01-28-2006, 09:40 AM
Granger seemed to wear down a little in the last 5 minutes, but that is understandable, he isn't used to playing this many minutes and having to guard Bron most of the night is tough. But through 3 and a half quarters Granger was the best player on the court.

One player who made several key plays but no one will ever mention is eric Snow, he was really hitting his shot tonight, but more importanly, he made about 4 key defensive plays in the last 4 minutes, I've always been a huge fan of his defense.

SycamoreKen
01-28-2006, 10:56 AM
I agree with wyou about Snow. He has always done the little things to help his team. His scoring is never going to be a strong point, but he does know how to play great defense without being a great athlete. Damon Jones could learn a lot from him about how to handle himself in a game. Has there ever been a mediocre player as cocky as he is?

DisplacedKnick
01-28-2006, 11:07 AM
I was proud of them as well. That game was a display of "playing the right way". Do that long enough and it will pay dividends.

I've already said that I believe the team plays better without JO on the court. If they don't actually play better, it sure looks that way to me. I don't know whether to blame the player or the system but I know what I see so it didn't suprise me to see them find some effort and competitiveness without him this evening. I'm not down on JO per se' but I'm down on seeing the team play when he's on the court. Potentially, of course the team SHOULD be better with JO... but potential is one thing, reality another.


I didn't see the game but IMO the Pacers do play better without JO. The ball and player movement is much better and the other 4 don't stand around and watch.

That said, they aren't a better team. Despite Detroit, the league is still about stars and players making plays.

Be nice to have both but when you have a dominant post player, I'm not sure that happens very often (though if JO's passing skills were better it could).

Kegboy
01-28-2006, 11:48 AM
UB, what happened to you being furious if the team came out and played well just because Ron was gone?

:tongue:

Unclebuck
01-28-2006, 12:37 PM
UB, what happened to you being furious if the team came out and played well just because Ron was gone?

:tongue:



oops.

Since when do you pay attention to what I post.

dryles
01-28-2006, 01:14 PM
What happened to Cro? When I heard that JO would be out I thought at least Cro should be getting to the free throw line. I see from the box score he shot 5 times and 4 of them were 3-pointers, did he not drive or go inside any? Or just not get any calls?

Slick Pinkham
01-28-2006, 01:19 PM
I loved it when Harrison made a poor offensive play and Rick was gonna yank him and sent Pollard to the scorer's table. David then drew a charge. Rick told Scot to come back to the bench and let David stay in.

Maybe Rick can tolerate the inevitable mistakes as long as he hustles.

Unclebuck
01-28-2006, 02:04 PM
Cro was having a hard time with Gooden, Granger was playing so well, and the pacers needed either Harrison or Pollard in there to try and contend with Z.


Just checked the box score and Granger played 43 minutes and Cro played 33 , it didn't seem like Cro played that many.

Peck
01-28-2006, 02:46 PM
Croshere was horrible last night.

He had a couple of really good defensive stands against big Z, but I hated his offense.

He cannot just be a three point specialist. My gut feeling is that he could have drawn some fouls on Big Z if he would have taken it to the rack.

If he gives you anything on the offensive end we win that game.

He hasn't played consistantly well for about 3 weeks now, I wonder if he was affected by the rumors of him going to LA with Ron.

denyfizle
01-28-2006, 02:50 PM
I still don't like the fact that Rick benched Danger in the dying seconds. Give the guy a chance to take the last shot since he was hot the whole game. Crayyy-zeeee :banghead:

Unclebuck
01-28-2006, 02:57 PM
I still don't like the fact that Rick benched Danger in the dying seconds. Give the guy a chance to take the last shot since he was hot the whole game. Crayyy-zeeee :banghead:


He took him out on one of the plays because we knew we had to foul. And DG was not in the game for the last 10 seconds (when Cro shot and missed the three) but besides that Granger was in there. He played 42 minutes. Rick put AJ in the game for that last play.

denyfizle
01-28-2006, 03:04 PM
He took him out on one of the plays because we knew we had to foul. And DG was not in the game for the last 10 seconds (when Cro shot and missed the three) but besides that Granger was in there. He played 42 minutes. Rick put AJ in the game for that last play.

That was exactly what I was referring to. He should've been there in the last play. AJ was cold from the bench. Cro was having a horrible night. Why not give the guy who worked for the win all night to have a chance and win it for you. RC didn't have to design a play for him, just the fact that he was in there and have a crack at being the hero.

RedPitSea
01-29-2006, 06:06 PM
I hope this link works but give credit to wallyhoop at wolfbytes.net for this little video. Thought you guys would enjoy this work!

http://home.comcast.net/~whopp7/granger5.wmv

317Kim
01-29-2006, 06:11 PM
Thank you!! That's great!

RedPitSea
01-29-2006, 06:50 PM
Thank Wally! Hope you guys are starting to see why we fell in love with DG.. the player AND the person. Just wait, you still havent seen anything yet.