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udi
01-18-2006, 08:48 PM
:mad: :mad: :mad:

6/7 in 12 min
what more do you want ?

SoupIsGood
01-18-2006, 08:50 PM
AJ is having a once in a lifetime game right now.

Jermaniac
01-18-2006, 08:51 PM
He cant play defense

udi
01-18-2006, 09:12 PM
sure... you are looking for the defence when a player is doing 6/7 14 points in 12 min
you are all right

Evan_The_Dude
01-18-2006, 09:30 PM
It's not like he couldn't come off the bench and score some more. He was having a good game, but AJ was having a better one. Nuff said.

Jermaniac
01-18-2006, 09:31 PM
Yep if you score 14 points and give up 14 thats not helping. And the guy he would have replaced in the lineup in the second half happend to have the best game of his career tonight scoring wise.

Gamble
01-18-2006, 09:53 PM
Its really nothing to be mad about because this more than
likely won't happen agian, udi. You have to go with the hot
hand and AJ's isn't this hot ever.

denyfizle
01-18-2006, 10:56 PM
<in my best english accent impersonation> it's about the team, not the individual player.

PacerMan
01-18-2006, 11:11 PM
:mad: :mad: :mad:

6/7 in 12 min
what more do you want ?

How about 27pts and 10 rebounds.
Oh, and DEFENSE.
Get a clue.
This is a TEAM game.
not one mans story...............

MagicRat
01-18-2006, 11:12 PM
I thought this was going to be about Granger.......:whoknows:

Kegboy
01-18-2006, 11:22 PM
:lmao:

udi
01-19-2006, 05:59 AM
when the 2nd period was ended no 1 knew what will come in the scnd half
and when you have a player that scores 6/7 14 points in the 2nd period you cant sit him
sorry
AJ was fantastic but this has no relation to my point - its all about management

able
01-19-2006, 06:09 AM
What you seemed to have missed in this "scoring spree" is that at the 5.33 mark in the 2nd Q AJ came back in, Saras played the eniter 2nd Q btw, when the 2nd Q started we were down 9, at the 5.33 mark we were down 8 andSaras had already scored half of his points in that quarter.

It is as some say, you can score a bunch, but if you give it away on defense, it's not going to get you anywhere.
It was clear that the TEAM was better with AJ last night, so Rick did what every good coach does, he went with the best option: "offense and defense in the same player".

Saras still played 28 minutes in the game, so playing time was not a problem.

And to sugest that they made it a point not to get him the ball is ridiculous.

NaptownBound
01-19-2006, 12:40 PM
He can't play defense at the NBA level.
He doesn't have the footspeed.
Additionally, the Bobcats lead the league in forcing turnovers and Saras has had trouble bringing the ball up the court against almost every other team.
Putting in AJ for him when he's having a career night was the smart thing to do.

I know many of yall love Saras, but I just don't see it.
He can score, great... but if his man is harrassing him while he's bringing the ball up and on the other end Saras can't guard his man, he can be a liablility. Love is blind though.

jericho
01-19-2006, 01:46 PM
Yep if you score 14 points and give up 14 thats not helping. And the guy he would have replaced in the lineup in the second half happend to have the best game of his career tonight scoring wise.

BS

Maby you want to start counting?

Open your eyes and take a look at +/- stats. :rolleyes:

Fool
01-19-2006, 02:49 PM
Saras is one of only 3 Pacers with a positive +/- (second highest on the team with +7.1)

Chauncey
01-19-2006, 03:12 PM
+/- is not the same thing as "getting more than you're giving up"

This is probably the worst case of overrating a player I've ever seen....Sarass is a backup.

Fool
01-19-2006, 03:16 PM
Indeed, but you could also contrast the average +/- for the most used 5-man units that include Saras against the most used 5-man units that don't include him and get a pretty good indicator.

But I'm definately not doing all that work for a team I don't root for and a player I don't really care about.

ChicagoJ
01-19-2006, 04:23 PM
<IN impersonation accent english best my> it's about the team, not the individual player.

Too bad that some of our new friends don't share that perspective.

Arcadian
01-19-2006, 04:40 PM
I thought "Euro ball" didn't care about stats? I'm so confused. I had to double check that the Pacers won.

PacerMan
01-19-2006, 04:54 PM
BS

Maby you want to start counting?

Open your eyes and take a look at +/- stats. :rolleyes:

+/- has as much to do with WHO you are playing with at the time, as it does the individual.
:rolleyes:

PacerMan
01-19-2006, 04:56 PM
Indeed, but you could also contrast the average +/- for the most used 5-man units that include Saras against the most used 5-man units that don't include him and get a pretty good indicator.

But I'm definately not doing all that work for a team I don't root for and a player I don't really care about.

We've had 20 something different starting lineups. There IS no 'most used' groups of players on this team.