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Anthem
01-18-2006, 12:57 AM
They're both available. We have a lot of players I'd be willing to give up. It seems like something could be worked out.

Whaddya think? Do we have the horsepower to get something like this done?

Jermaniac
01-18-2006, 01:04 AM
Hulk,Jack,Tins,Ron,AJ

Pig Nash
01-18-2006, 01:08 AM
a miracle.

in homage to btown, second line.

Blizz
01-18-2006, 01:18 AM
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="500"><tbody><tr><td class="title_bl">Just for the heck of it...




Indiana Trade Breakdown</td></tr><tr><td class="body_bl_np" width="100%"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Outgoing</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Bender_Jonathan_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jonathan Bender
7-0 SF from Picayune Memorial (HS)
5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 10.5 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Artest_Ron_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Jackson_Stephen_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
15.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.6 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Tinsley_Jamaal_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
11.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.4 apg in 29.2 minutes</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Incoming</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Miller_Andre_den.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
14.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 8.5 apg in 36.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Elson_Francisco_den.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Francisco Elson
7-0 C from California
4.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 22.4 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Pierce_Paul_bos.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.8 apg in 39.1 minutes</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="title_gr">Change in team outlook: -6.7 ppg, +2.7 rpg, and +3.2 apg.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="500"><tbody><tr><td class="title_bl">Denver Trade Breakdown</td></tr><tr><td class="body_bl_np" width="100%"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Outgoing</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Miller_Andre_den.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
14.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 8.5 apg in 36.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Elson_Francisco_den.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Francisco Elson
7-0 C from California
4.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 22.4 minutes</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Incoming</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Jackson_Stephen_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
15.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.6 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Tinsley_Jamaal_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
11.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.4 apg in 29.2 minutes</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="title_gr">Change in team outlook: +8.4 ppg, -2.1 rpg, and -1.6 apg.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="500"><tbody><tr><td class="title_bl">Boston Trade Breakdown</td></tr><tr><td class="body_bl_np" width="100%"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Outgoing</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Pierce_Paul_bos.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.8 apg in 39.1 minutes</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Incoming</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Bender_Jonathan_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jonathan Bender
7-0 SF from Picayune Memorial (HS)
5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 10.5 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Artest_Ron_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="title_gr">Change in team outlook: -1.7 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -1.6 apg.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="80%"><tbody><tr><td class="title_s">Successful Scenario</td></tr><tr><td class="body_s">Due to Indiana, Denver, and Boston being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, Denver, and Boston had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.</td></tr></tbody></table>

Anthem
01-18-2006, 01:20 AM
Man, that was fun. Never happen, but still:

Denver gives:
A.Miller, V.Lenard, Nen&#234;, and this year’s first round pick
Denver gets:
R.Artest, S.Pollard, A.Johnson

Boston gives:
P.Pierce, M.Banks, and R.Gomes
Boston gets:
S.Jackson, J.Tinsley, Nene, and both picks

Indiana gives:
R.Artest, S.Jackson, J.Tinsley, S.Pollard, A.Johnson, and this year’s first round pick
Indiana gets:
A.Miller, V.Lenard, P.Pierce, M.Banks, R.Gomes

New lineup:
- Harrison / Foster
- JO / Croshere / [Bender]
- Granger / Lenard / Gomes
- Pierce / Fred /
- Andre / Saras / Banks / Gill

Kstat
01-18-2006, 01:24 AM
I'm sure Denver would be thrilled to take Bender, too....

Jermaniac
01-18-2006, 01:33 AM
Why wouldnt they like 7 million off their cap

Kstat
01-18-2006, 01:35 AM
Why wouldnt they like 7 million off their cap

Bender has another year on his deal. It won't go away even if he retires.

Bball
01-18-2006, 01:36 AM
Let's see...

Peyton Manning, Tony Dungy, Vanderjagt, Artest, Tinsley, Sjax....

Will that work?

-Bball

Kaufman
01-18-2006, 01:45 AM
You know, for the first time in my existance as a Pacer fan, I can honestly say, I'd not mind if we traded everyone away. I have no real emotional attachment to any of these guys, and that includes Danny Granger and Saras - they're nice guys and nice players but I don't have enough time with them to have formed a bond just yet.

Second line. Or whatever line this becomes. Compliments of... Btown.

CableKC
01-18-2006, 02:23 AM
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="500"><tbody><tr><td class="title_bl">Just for the heck of it...




Indiana Trade Breakdown</td></tr><tr><td class="body_bl_np" width="100%"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Outgoing</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Bender_Jonathan_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jonathan Bender
7-0 SF from Picayune Memorial (HS)
5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 10.5 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Artest_Ron_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Jackson_Stephen_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
15.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.6 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Tinsley_Jamaal_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
11.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.4 apg in 29.2 minutes</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Incoming</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Miller_Andre_den.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
14.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 8.5 apg in 36.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Elson_Francisco_den.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Francisco Elson
7-0 C from California
4.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 22.4 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Pierce_Paul_bos.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.8 apg in 39.1 minutes</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="title_gr">Change in team outlook: -6.7 ppg, +2.7 rpg, and +3.2 apg.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="500"><tbody><tr><td class="title_bl">Denver Trade Breakdown</td></tr><tr><td class="body_bl_np" width="100%"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Outgoing</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Miller_Andre_den.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
14.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 8.5 apg in 36.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Elson_Francisco_den.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Francisco Elson
7-0 C from California
4.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 22.4 minutes</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Incoming</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Jackson_Stephen_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
15.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.6 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Tinsley_Jamaal_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
11.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.4 apg in 29.2 minutes</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="title_gr">Change in team outlook: +8.4 ppg, -2.1 rpg, and -1.6 apg.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="500"><tbody><tr><td class="title_bl">Boston Trade Breakdown</td></tr><tr><td class="body_bl_np" width="100%"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Outgoing</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Pierce_Paul_bos.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.8 apg in 39.1 minutes</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Incoming</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Bender_Jonathan_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jonathan Bender
7-0 SF from Picayune Memorial (HS)
5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 10.5 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Artest_Ron_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="title_gr">Change in team outlook: -1.7 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -1.6 apg.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="80%"><tbody><tr><td class="title_s">Successful Scenario</td></tr><tr><td class="body_s">Due to Indiana, Denver, and Boston being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, Denver, and Boston had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.</td></tr></tbody></table>

Works for me. We get Elson and some fillers!!!! Just kidding.....its great...we get Pierce, Andre Miller and Elson ( who I want to sign in the offseason ).

rexnom
01-18-2006, 03:20 AM
I don't think we can get both...but we might be able to swing a three team deal here...Boston wants a young and talented PG (Miller). Denver wants Artest. We want Pierce. We want to send Artest west. If we include picks and expiring contracts is it ridiculous to believe that this trade can be pulled off? This is what I would pursue like a madman if I was Kiki or Donnie...

skyfire
01-18-2006, 03:34 AM
Its a pity that Tins + Jack would probbly fit better in Denver, but if we're gonna trade Ron to the West, we'd have to be sending him there.

Maybe its gotta be a 4 team trade.

Indiana-Boston-Denver and LA?

holy crap it worked...took me a while to match salaries


Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Austin Croshere
6-10 PF from Providence
8.7 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 25.3 minutes

Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes

Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
15.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.6 minutes

Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
11.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.4 apg in 29.2 minutes
Incoming

Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.8 apg in 39.1 minutes

Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
14.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 8.5 apg in 36.8 minutes

Voshon Lenard
6-4 SG from Minnesota
8.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.5 apg in 19.9 minutes
Change in team outlook: -6.7 ppg, -3.9 rpg, and +4.0 apg.

Boston Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Paul Pierce
6-6 SG from Kansas
26.1 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 4.8 apg in 39.1 minutes

Mark Blount
7-0 C from Pittsburgh
13.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.8 apg in 29.4 minutes

Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
6.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 1.9 apg in 16.3 minutes
Incoming

Devean George
6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN
6.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 21.7 minutes

Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
14.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: -24.2 ppg, -0.3 rpg, and -2.0 apg.

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Devean George
6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN
6.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 21.7 minutes

Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
14.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.4 minutes
Incoming

Austin Croshere
6-10 PF from Providence
8.7 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.2 apg in 25.3 minutes

Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes

Marcus Banks
6-2 PG from UNLV
6.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 1.9 apg in 16.3 minutes

Nene Hilario
6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign)
0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: +13.1 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -1.2 apg.

Denver Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
14.4 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 8.5 apg in 36.8 minutes

Voshon Lenard
6-4 SG from Minnesota
8.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.5 apg in 19.9 minutes

Nene Hilario
6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign)
0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.0 minutes
Incoming

Stephen Jackson
6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
15.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.6 minutes

Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
11.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.4 apg in 29.2 minutes

Mark Blount
7-0 C from Pittsburgh
13.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.8 apg in 29.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: +17.8 ppg, +4.8 rpg, and -0.8 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to Indiana, Boston, L.A. Lakers and Denver being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, Boston, L.A. Lakers and Denver had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Trade ID
Every trade made by fans is allocated a unique Trade ID which you can share with friends and fellow basketball fans to allow them to see your trade scenario. The Trade ID for this scenario is 2834754.

might need picks going to boston, but atleast it works :P

Eindar
01-18-2006, 07:04 AM
LA makes out like bandits. Boston gets screwed, with Indiana being a minor winner and Denver being a minor loser.

indygeezer
01-18-2006, 07:45 AM
What would it take to aquire both Paul Pierce and Andre Miller?


Devine intervention.

sixthman
01-18-2006, 08:55 AM
] What would it take to aquire both Paul Pierce and Andre Miller?

Trade Jermaine O'Neal and Ron Artest.

Andre Miller is the solution to our problems? Yuk!

Shade
01-18-2006, 03:28 PM
] What would it take to aquire both Paul Pierce and Andre Miller?

Trade Jermaine O'Neal and Ron Artest.

Andre Miller is the solution to our problems? Yuk!

Well, we're on our way to being halfway there...

Eindar
01-18-2006, 04:04 PM
They're both available. We have a lot of players I'd be willing to give up. It seems like something could be worked out.

Whaddya think? Do we have the horsepower to get something like this done?

Duct tape, 3-5 ski masks, and a van, to be precise.

Bball
01-18-2006, 04:40 PM
What would it take to aquire both Paul Pierce and Andre Miller?



A new GM and a new vision for the team....

-Bball