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Unclebuck
01-10-2006, 09:12 AM
I was impressed with Bynum last night, he's several years away though.



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'RAPT' ATTENTION
By PETER VECSEY

Bosh & Co. are opening eyes


THE 10-in-a-row Nets are playing so well, I did a double-take to make sure Bye-Ron Scott hadn't been fired the day before the run started. Before Vince Carter's 42-point detonation and game-ending trifecta laid the Raptors to rest, Toronto had won five straight, its finest showing in more than two seasons. I'd be derelict not to acknowledge Rob Babcock for drastically recouping from the Carter hijacking and seemingly (I'm not so sure anymore he's going to be a bust) unspeakable decision to choose Rafael Araujo No. 8 overall in '04.

Babcock made a miraculous recovery last June when he resisted the herd mentality by tabbing controversial Charlie Villanueva No. 7. He also took Joey Graham No. 16. Two months later, Jose Calderon was signed as a free agent. All three rookies are important pieces surrounding emerging franchise player Chris Bosh (Walter Berry with a head) to the Raptors puzzle that gradually but clearly is becoming visible.

If those aren't redefining command judgments, then the next one unmistakably qualifies. The mark of a successful GM is to correct a glaring error as quickly as possible after admitting one was committed. That's precisely what Babcock did by rerouting Rafer Alston (in constant conflict with coach Sam Mitchell) and his $24M, five-year guarantee for Mike James. It's arguably the slickest ripoff of last summer.

Think Houston counterpart Carroll Dawson might like a do-over on that obtuse move? Think Houston might have liked to have James in its starting lineup last Friday night instead of him adorning Toronto's? Think Tracy McGrady could've used his former running mate's 30 points, eight assists and seven rebounds?

But that's not all James accomplishes. Counting his demonic defense, The Amityville Terror is one of the league's precious few quadruple threats. James does things that show up in the box score and he does things that limit opponents' impact on a box score. Aside from the above glitzy stats, he also goaded Juwan Howard into an early ejection (14 minutes) from that game and suspended from the next for shoving a Spalding into James' face with two hands.

Fittingly, before Sunday's opening tip in Toronto, Carter threw his full support behind Babcock for Executive of the Province.

I may be off the wall, but Carter, averaging 33.5 points during the win-fall, has almost made Net fans forget George Bruns.

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Off a 26-minute, 30-point, seven-rebound bombardment against the Wizards, Channing Frye earned just 21 minutes of daylight (15 and five) versus the Sonics. Larry Brown says he's saving him for the rookie game.

A non-aligned source claims the Bulls offered Ben Gordon to the Celtics for Al Jefferson and Marcus Banks. A Chicago official contends that conversation never took place. A Boston official confesses being infatuated with Gordon but underlines that Jefferson is the foundation of the team's future.

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Word from the wise in La-La Land: Phil Jackson strongly encouraged Jim Buss to include Andrew Bynum in a package proposal for Ron Artest, but the owner's son fervently negated the notion. Though everyone in the front office maintained shared aims last June, people in the know maintain Buss and assistant GM Ronnie Lester were instrumental in the drafting of 7-foot Bynum, whereas Jackson and GM Mitch Kupchak preferred Sean May and Danny Granger.

How the Lakers could hire Jackson for three years and select an undeveloped high-school project when the team clearly needed immediate help has never been explained logically or otherwise.

I used to think Jackson was overpaid at $10M per. Now I'm convinced he's underpaid.

Still, at least one cockeyed optimist within the organization remains convinced the Lakers somehow will bag Artest.

"I'm looking forward to the peace and quiet Ron would bring to our locker room," he dryly declares.

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About a dozen DNPs (coach's decision) into the season, Earl Watson finally has earned the respect (i.e. meaningful minutes) of George Karl. Your feral guess is as good as my cultured one whether the point guard's elevated status results in him not being traded.

There's positively plenty of interest; none of it grabs me. The Knicks continue to offer Quentin Richardson ($6.9M) for Watson ($5M) and someone else. The Sonics are offering Vitaly Potapenko ($3.325M) and Flip Murray (895G), who must agree to any deal, therefore owns a certain amount of leverage regarding a (wink, wink) commitment on a new contract.

The Cavaliers (perhaps the moderately appealing Drew Gooden, $4.065M) and the Jazz, two of his most ardent free-agent suitors last summer, are making unknown pitches. And the Grizzlies would love to swap the unremittingly injured Brian Cardinal and his mid-level maximum deal for their former backup.

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Afterthought: Comparing Bosh to Berry is no putdown. Walter was the original "The Truth" before someone in the Boston media ingeniously bestowed Paul Pierce with the nickname 15 years later. To put Berry's talent in proper perspective, Lou Carnesecca confides to friends he was the best player he has ever coached.

peter.vecsey@nypost.com

marcd
01-10-2006, 09:57 AM
I was impressed with Bynum last night, he's several years away though.



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"I'm looking forward to the peace and quiet Ron would bring to our locker room," he dryly declares.


Buck

You forgot to highlight the best part of the Artest segment. Classic quote, I know it was a joke on Vescey's part; but still damn funny!


Bynum would sure be nice, don't think it would happen; but would sure be nicer than Kwame.

MarcD

Unclebuck
01-10-2006, 10:19 AM
Buck

You forgot to highlight the best part of the Artest segment. Classic quote, I know it was a joke on Vescey's part; but still damn funny!


Bynum would sure be nice, don't think it would happen; but would sure be nicer than Kwame.

MarcD



Correction made.

I said last summer why in the world are the Rockets trading James for Alston, I've always liked James, going back to his Miami Heat days

DisplacedKnick
01-10-2006, 10:41 AM
Correction made.

I said last summer why in the world are the Rockets trading James for Alston, I've always liked James, going back to his Miami Heat days

I thought James was much more a JVG-type player than Alston myself.

sixthman
01-10-2006, 11:22 AM
Despite having watched the Lakers in bits and pieces numerous times this year, last night was the first time I actually saw Bynum play.

If the Lakers finally gave in and the deal was simply Bynum and George and his expiring contract, I would hope the P's would do that. Little would please me more. I'd like the P's to get a handle on their luxury tax woes, and I love Bynum's upside.

Obvious instant analysis: The kid is big and going to be good when he grows up. Maybe very, very good. I also liked his court presence a great deal - looks like a player who will be easy to root for.

Since86
01-10-2006, 01:53 PM
Who honestly think RC will play Bynum while a three(?) year college player sits on the bench in Hulk?

Rick HATES to play young players, let alone one that's completely raw and straight from HS.

blanket
01-10-2006, 04:06 PM
Regarding Vescey's article, here's the latest from Eric_Pincus/Emplay over at the ClubLakers board:

http://www.clublakers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45412&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=5670&sid=3181da6a2108aa0021cf0cbacb96c04f


I know who Vecsey's sources are on some of these things - he's getting a lot of (somewhat) accurate information but presenting it not only with his own bias and agenda - but the info he receives is coming from a very biased source.

What we're looking at is a battle between Indy and LA - the Pacers saying no Bynum - no Artest.

The Lakers walking from the table saying it's over - no Artest - while saying there's a standing offer of Kwame.

The Lakers are banking on no one else offering more - and thus the options for the Pacers limited to Kandi, Nene and Kwame.

The Pacers are saying they'll keep Ron til the summer if the offers don't improve.

So this is the stage - and Vecsey's on the Pacers side pushing their agenda - and trying to frame it like Phil Jackson doesn't even want Bynum, etc.

McKeyFan
01-10-2006, 08:51 PM
Despite having watched the Lakers in bits and pieces numerous times this year, last night was the first time I actually saw Bynum play.

If the Lakers finally gave in and the deal was simply Bynum and George and his expiring contract, I would hope the P's would do that. Little would please me more. I'd like the P's to get a handle on their luxury tax woes, and I love Bynum's upside.

Obvious instant analysis: The kid is big and going to be good when he grows up. Maybe very, very good. I also liked his court presence a great deal - looks like a player who will be easy to root for.

Yeah, you know I say bits and pieces of this other 7-foot kid out of high school--high flying jams, lots of three pointers, great in practice and the best H-O-R-S-E player in the NBA. :D

Just kidding, 6th. I was pretty impressed with Bynum, too, and probably wouldn't be disappointed with that trade either. I am a little wary, though, for obvious reasons.