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Hicks
12-27-2005, 04:36 PM
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="500"><tbody><tr><td class="title_bl">Indiana Trade Breakdown</td></tr><tr><td class="body_bl_np" width="100%"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Outgoing</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Bender_Jonathan_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jonathan Bender
7-0 SF from Picayune Memorial (HS)
5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 10.5 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Artest_Ron_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Pollard_Scott_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Scot Pollard
6-11 C from Kansas
2.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 0.0 apg in 12.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Harrison_David_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">David Harrison
7-0 C from Colorado
2.6 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.1 apg in 8.8 minutes</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Incoming</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/George_Devean_lal.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Devean George
6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN
5.6 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 20.6 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Medvedenko_Slava_lal.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Stanislav Medvedenko
6-10 PF from Ukraine (Foreign)
1.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 3.5 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Williams_Alvin_tor.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Alvin Williams
6-5 PG from Villanova
1.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 9.0 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Williams_Aaron_tor.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Aaron Williams
6-9 PF from Xavier
2.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.0 apg in 7.7 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Villanueva_Charlie_tor.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Charlie Villanueva
6-11 PF from Connecticut
12.2 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.3 minutes</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="title_gr">Change in team outlook: -8.0 ppg, +1.1 rpg, and -0.8 apg.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="500"><tbody><tr><td class="title_bl">L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown</td></tr><tr><td class="body_bl_np" width="100%"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Outgoing</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Odom_Lamar_lal.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
14.9 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 5.3 apg in 39.0 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Brown_Kwame_lal.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Kwame Brown
6-11 C from Glynn Academy (HS)
5.9 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.5 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/George_Devean_lal.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Devean George
6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN
5.6 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 20.6 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Medvedenko_Slava_lal.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Stanislav Medvedenko
6-10 PF from Ukraine (Foreign)
1.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 3.5 minutes</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Incoming</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Artest_Ron_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Harrison_David_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">David Harrison
7-0 C from Colorado
2.6 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 0.1 apg in 8.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Rose_Jalen_tor.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jalen Rose
6-8 SG from Michigan
9.5 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 25.1 minutes</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="title_gr">Change in team outlook: +4.1 ppg, -8.7 rpg, and -3.1 apg.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="500"><tbody><tr><td class="title_bl">Toronto Trade Breakdown</td></tr><tr><td class="body_bl_np" width="100%"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Outgoing</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Rose_Jalen_tor.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jalen Rose
6-8 SG from Michigan
9.5 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 25.1 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Williams_Alvin_tor.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Alvin Williams
6-5 PG from Villanova
1.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 9.0 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Williams_Aaron_tor.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Aaron Williams
6-9 PF from Xavier
2.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.0 apg in 7.7 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Villanueva_Charlie_tor.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Charlie Villanueva
6-11 PF from Connecticut
12.2 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.3 minutes</td></tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="title_dt">Incoming</td></tr> <tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Bender_Jonathan_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Jonathan Bender
7-0 SF from Picayune Memorial (HS)
5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 10.5 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Pollard_Scott_ind.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Scot Pollard
6-11 C from Kansas
2.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 0.0 apg in 12.8 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Odom_Lamar_lal.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
14.9 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 5.3 apg in 39.0 minutes</td></tr><tr><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="75">http://www1.realgm.com/images/nba/4.2/profiles/photos/2006/Brown_Kwame_lal.jpg</td><td class="tdpad" valign="top" width="425">Kwame Brown
6-11 C from Glynn Academy (HS)
5.9 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.5 minutes</td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="title_gr">Change in team outlook: +3.9 ppg, +7.6 rpg, and +3.9 apg.</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="80%"><tbody><tr><td class="title_s">Successful Scenario</td></tr><tr><td class="body_s">Due to Indiana, L.A. Lakers, and Toronto being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, L.A. Lakers, and Toronto had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.</td></tr></tbody></table>
Here's the really "fun" part, justification:

:lakers: They get their men in Artest and Rose, while getting rid of Odom, who they seem to be done with. They give up Kwame, which is probably the deal breaker.

:thepacers: Nothing needs to be said about Ron. Scot, JB, and David all either don't play or barely do. They get back a promising young, cheap talent in Villenueva, 3 expiring contracts (of which they'll have to probably cut one of them right away for roster space), and another PG if they want to bail on Tinsley later.

Immediate lineup would appear to be:

Tinsley/Johnson/The Rest
Sarunas/Jones
Jackson/Granger
Villanueva/Croshere
O'Neal/Foster

Doesn't cure everything, but we get a promising young low post player.

:raptors:

Hell, why not? They ditch Jalen, and they're getting Odom and Kwame Brown , plus two salary dumps for him. Yes they lose Villanueva, but hey'd be stupid not to do this IMO.

I'm not at all saying this will happen, just that it works financially and I felt like playing with RealGM.

Harmonica
12-27-2005, 04:42 PM
That's a BIIIIIG trade. My head hurts.

SoupIsGood
12-27-2005, 04:50 PM
:disturbed


Yeah, let's do tha trade so that Rick can bench a promising young SF/PF instead of a promising young C.

Hicks
12-27-2005, 04:56 PM
That's a BIIIIIG trade. My head hurts.

YOUR head hurts? I had to do the math to make sure it worked (rather than re-entering stuff into RealGM 80 times; I only had to go back once as I took notes). :disturbed:

Ultimate Frisbee
12-27-2005, 05:45 PM
I dig it... :)

Send it on to Donnie and/or Bird.... That must have been hard to come up with, but it seems legit. I think only LA would have any qualms about doing that trade. (can we also get a pick?)

sixthman
12-27-2005, 08:13 PM
I see no reason why the Lakers should get Harrison on top of Artest and Rose. Just take him out of the trade and I doubt it would hurt anything and the Lakers would still do the deal Otherwise I like the concept of a veteran to help out at small forward, the young prospect Charlie V., and the luxury tax relief.

dagrubbs
12-28-2005, 08:13 PM
both williams medvedenko and george are all garbage....chuck v is a good young talent...still a horrible trade harrison has upside we need to either keep him or get better trade value than that 4 him:crazy: