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skyfire
12-16-2005, 12:59 AM
Couple of proposals :


Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
9.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 5.5 apg in 27.5 minutes

Scot Pollard
6-11 C from Kansas
2.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 0.0 apg in 12.8 minutes

Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
Incoming

Rashard Lewis
6-10 SF from Alief Elsik (HS)
21.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.6 minutes

Earl Watson
6-1 PG from UCLA
4.8 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 14.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: -6.0 ppg, -4.9 rpg, and -3.2 apg.

Seattle Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Danny Fortson
6-8 PF from Cincinnati
3.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.1 apg in 12.1 minutes

Rashard Lewis
6-10 SF from Alief Elsik (HS)
21.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.6 minutes
Incoming

Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes

Eduardo Najera
6-8 SF from Oklahoma
5.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.6 minutes

Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
13.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 7.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: +13.5 ppg, +5.8 rpg, and +8.5 apg.

Denver Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Eduardo Najera
6-8 SF from Oklahoma
5.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.6 minutes

Earl Watson
6-1 PG from UCLA
4.8 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 14.8 minutes

Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
13.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 7.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
Incoming

Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
9.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 5.5 apg in 27.5 minutes

Scot Pollard
6-11 C from Kansas
2.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 0.0 apg in 12.8 minutes

Danny Fortson
6-8 PF from Cincinnati
3.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 0.1 apg in 12.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: -7.5 ppg, -0.9 rpg, and -5.3 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to Indiana, Seattle, and Denver being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, Seattle, and Denver had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.




Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
9.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 5.5 apg in 27.5 minutes

Scot Pollard
6-11 C from Kansas
2.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 0.0 apg in 12.8 minutes

Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
Incoming

Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
15.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 5.6 apg in 39.5 minutes

Earl Watson
6-1 PG from UCLA
4.8 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 14.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: -11.6 ppg, -1.3 rpg, and -0.0 apg.

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Chris Mihm
7-0 C from Texas
10.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.3 minutes

Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
15.8 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 5.6 apg in 39.5 minutes
Incoming

Ron Artest
6-7 SF from St. John's
19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes

Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
13.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 7.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: +6.8 ppg, -5.9 rpg, and +3.7 apg.

Denver Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Earl Watson
6-1 PG from UCLA
4.8 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 14.8 minutes

Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
13.3 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 7.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
Incoming

Jamaal Tinsley
6-3 PG from Iowa State
9.9 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 5.5 apg in 27.5 minutes

Scot Pollard
6-11 C from Kansas
2.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 0.0 apg in 12.8 minutes

Chris Mihm
7-0 C from Texas
10.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 0.8 apg in 27.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: +4.8 ppg, +7.2 rpg, and -3.7 apg.


Successful Scenario
Due to Indiana, L.A. Lakers, and Denver being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, L.A. Lakers, and Denver had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

I think both of these deals work with Bender in place of Pollard.

I've heard that Denver isn't enamoured with Andre Miller as their starting PG as they want to run more. Tins would likely be a good fit with their roster.
Both LA and Seattle are gonna be hesitant to switch their starting SF for Ron, but landing Andre Miller would be an upgrade at PG for both of those teams.

I think Saras/Watson/AJ would form a very solid PG rotation.

CableKC
12-16-2005, 03:30 AM
You can do a straight up Artest+AJ for Lenard+Watson deal.

Frank Slade
12-17-2005, 01:21 PM
You can do a straight up Artest+AJ for Lenard+Watson deal.

Yes but why would you want to..... :(

Pacers#1Fan
12-17-2005, 04:08 PM
What the hell is it with you guys and Watson?!

NPFII
12-20-2005, 11:19 AM
I like both deals (prefer the Seattle one).

I think all the teams get better, except for us. But we get rid of Artest and Tinsley, and get good replacements in Odom/Lewis & Watson.
Maybe Bender instead of Pollard can make it work even better.

Fair enough. I'd do it.