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scar
12-14-2005, 02:06 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/38311/20051214/artest_rumors_make_their_way_to_golden_state/

Artest would be welcomed in Golden State

Warriors players have no objection to adding the controversial Pacer

<!-- begin body-content -->Warriors notebook
SEATTLE -- Make no mistake about it. To a man, there are a few Warriors who will tell you in a heartbeat they'd love to have Indiana Pacers small forward Ron Artest as a teammate.
"(Expletive) yeah," Warriors guard Jason Richardson said. "He's one of the top players in this league. To get a guy like that ..."
Artest has been a hot topic around the league since the Pacers revealed Monday they are looking to deal the embattled All-Star after his public trade request. Warriors executive vice president Chris Mullin has a good relationship with Indiana's CEO and president Donnie Walsh, who traded for Mullin near the end of his playing career and groomed Mullin for a move to the front office.
Rumors and speculation had made its way to the Warriors locker room prior to Tuesday's game. One player said he was told of a scenario of the Warriors sending small forward Mike Dunleavy and center Adonal Foyle to the Pacers for Artest and center Jeff Foster, whom the Warriors drafted in the first round (No. 21) of the 1999 draft and immediately traded his rights to Indiana for the rights to guard Vonteego Cummings and a future pick.
The numbers match, as the Pacers' pair will earn $11.8 million this season and the Warriors' pair will make $11.9 million. Because both teams are over the salary cap, the contracts only have to come to within 25 percent of each other instead of the usual 15 percent. Also, Dunleavy and whichever one of the Warriors' younger talents -- i.e., forward/center Andris Biedrins, forward Zarko Cabarkapa, swingman Mickael Pietrus -- Indiana wants would fit. Guard Derek Fisher could be traded straight up for Artest, although it would certainly take a draft pick or a young talent to make it worth the Pacers' while.
If the Warriors were to acquire Artest, that would give them a starting perimeter of Artest, Richardson and Baron Davis. It would also significantly improve their ability to defend the perimeter.
"He plays so hard all the time," Foyle said. "We could use that. I admire anyone who plays like that."
Artest, who missed most of last season after being suspended for his part in the infamous brawl at The Palace of Auburn Hills, would certainly bring a circus to town and challenge the mellow mood of the Warriors locker room. He seems to be a magnet for controversy and is known for his temper.
The Warriors have a pretty reserved locker room, with Davis being the most flamboyant character. There seems to be little or no in-fighting and they have avoided off-the-court problems in recent years. Like Tabasco sauce on scrambled eggs, adding Artest would certainly give the Warriors roster some kick.
Warriors forward Troy Murphy said he wouldn't mind one bit.
"He'd be great (for us)," Murphy said with a smile. "It's too quiet around here."
Schedule glitch, again
The Warriors follow Tuesday's game at Seattle with a home game against Houston tonight. After the game, they'll fly to Toronto to begin a five-game road trip that ends in Detroit on Dec. 23. A tough break for a team that just played 17 games in a month without consecutive days off -- a span that included four back-to-back sets.
"You'd probably drive yourself mad trying to figure out the logic of the schedule," Warriors coach Mike Montgomery said.
Off glass
Seattle forward Danny Fortson, a former Warrior, was called for a technical foul in the second quarter for hitting Murphy in the face. Fortson was stripped going up for a shot and flailed his arms wildly, hitting Murphy. Tuesday was Fortson's first game back from a one-game NBA-imposed suspension. ... Pietrus (sprained right medial collateral ligament) and rookie forward Chris Taft (back) were the Warriors' inactive players. Pietrus was not with the team.
-- Marcus Thompson II

Hicks
12-14-2005, 02:12 PM
Stop making misleading thread titles.

*edit* I changed it from "Artest to Golden State (from realgm)"

scar
12-14-2005, 02:15 PM
Stop making misleading thread titles.

*edit* I changed it from "Artest to Golden State (from realgm)"

The rumor is about Ron Artest going to Golden State, so it's not misleading.

Hicks
12-14-2005, 02:16 PM
The title said Artest to Golden State. When you leave it like that, it's misleading. If that doesn't explain the obvious, nothing will.

Harddrive7
12-14-2005, 02:17 PM
yeah but saying "Artest to GS" is saying that the trade has been done which is very misleading

Mordecaii
12-14-2005, 02:18 PM
Not to mention the fact that this article has been posted in at least 2 other threads... I thought it was new...

scar
12-14-2005, 02:19 PM
yeah but saying "Artest to GS" is saying that the trade has been done which is very misleading

Maybe I should have put up that it was a rumor, but regardless of that, there are more dignifying ways of doing this instead of just editing my title and then boasting that you did so. I mean, editing it and then pm'ing me about it would make me feel alot better than just basically being called out on a message board for making a simple mistake, which is lead to make you believe I've done this before, which I don't think I have.

My apologies, it wasn't my intention, it was an honest mistake.

scar
12-14-2005, 02:20 PM
Not to mention the fact that this article has been posted in at least 2 other threads... I thought it was new...

Ok, my bad. I don't sift through threads with 2 or 3 pages of posts, so I don't know what's new and used. Just trying to be timely with the news.

Harddrive7
12-14-2005, 02:21 PM
not that big of a deal man.

Mordecaii
12-14-2005, 02:21 PM
It's cool, I just got worked up over possibly seeing something new and suffered a letdown... but hey, that's been the Pacers season so far!

scar
12-14-2005, 02:22 PM
It's cool, I just got worked up over possibly seeing something new and suffered a letdown... but hey, that's been the Pacers season so far!

I'll take that into consideration next time I post an article or make any post for that matter.

Ragnar
12-14-2005, 02:23 PM
I will be so pissed if we trade Jeff to get rid of Ron. Hey if you need to throw anyone in throw in AJ, Gill, Walker or even Pollard but NOT JEFF.

Mordecaii
12-14-2005, 02:25 PM
I'll take that into consideration next time I post an article or make any post for that matter.

......... I think you're taking it a little more harshly than was intended......... Can't access smilies since my mouse is dead or else I would have put some kind of smilie to reinforce my true intent that it wasn't a big deal and mostly my fault. If you see something that you think is new, post it! Heck, worst thing that can happen is someone like me chimes in and lets you know that it was posted, and we all move on....

Frank Slade
12-14-2005, 02:28 PM
I'll take that into consideration next time I post an article or make any post for that matter.

:console:

just for you Mordecaii

Cactus Jax
12-14-2005, 02:29 PM
That trade would be awful (Dunleavy + Foyle for Artest + Foster) for the Pacers, and I think is just a beat writer dreaming.

I do think it will ultimetely be GS that deals with the Pacers but Pietrus will be coming back, and maybe Troy Murphy too.

Fool
12-14-2005, 02:54 PM
If you get Troy Murphy, you are sending someone else besides Artest and I'm not talking Pollard or Gill.

scar
12-14-2005, 03:06 PM
......... I think you're taking it a little more harshly than was intended......... Can't access smilies since my mouse is dead or else I would have put some kind of smilie to reinforce my true intent that it wasn't a big deal and mostly my fault. If you see something that you think is new, post it! Heck, worst thing that can happen is someone like me chimes in and lets you know that it was posted, and we all move on....

No problem. I don't like to use smilies because it takes time to type : and then ). Sometimes I'm just on the fly so I'd rather just end the message without making one.

I know, I'm cheap. :)

If we could get Pietrus and Dunleavy, then I'd do the deal. I think Pietrus could be just as good of a defender as Artest, and no I'm not being ridiculous. And Dunleavy might come around sometime, you never know. If anything, he'd give us depth at the 3 when he gets benched in favor of Danny Granger.

Naptown Seth
12-14-2005, 03:41 PM
If you get Troy Murphy, you are sending someone else besides Artest and I'm not talking Pollard or Gill.
Artest is a top-15 player buddy bear. Murphy is lucky if he's top-75. Artest would have to kill atleast 3 people before he'd be worth less than Murphy.

scar
12-14-2005, 03:50 PM
Artest is a top-15 player buddy bear. Murphy is lucky if he's top-75. Artest would have to kill atleast 3 people before he'd be worth less than Murphy.

I think that is the first time I've ever seen someone call another person 'buddy bear'.

Anyways, Murphy is one of the better rebounders in the NBA, and he can score too. Any given night he can put up 20 and 12. He's basically Jeff Foster with an offensive game, Mother Goose.

CableKC
12-14-2005, 04:14 PM
2 things to note about Murphy.

- he would be too expensive to play backup minutes behind JONeal
- he's a PF who has ZERO Low-Post skills ( that's why they drafted Diogu...cuz they need Low-Post scoring ). He does rebound...but he scores more of his points from mid-range and beyond ( adding a nice 3pt touch at the top of the key ).

If we had a mediocre PF...then I would want Murphy...but he doesn't fit our immediate needs.

PacerMan
12-14-2005, 05:17 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/38311/20051214/artest_rumors_make_their_way_to_golden_state/

Artest would be welcomed in Golden State

Warriors players have no objection to adding the controversial Pacer

<!-- begin body-content -->Warriors notebook
SEATTLE -- Make no mistake about it. To a man, there are a few Warriors who will tell you in a heartbeat they'd love to have Indiana Pacers small forward Ron Artest as a teammate.
"(Expletive) yeah," Warriors guard Jason Richardson said. "He's one of the top players in this league. To get a guy like that ..."
Artest has been a hot topic around the league since the Pacers revealed Monday they are looking to deal the embattled All-Star after his public trade request. Warriors executive vice president Chris Mullin has a good relationship with Indiana's CEO and president Donnie Walsh, who traded for Mullin near the end of his playing career and groomed Mullin for a move to the front office.
Rumors and speculation had made its way to the Warriors locker room prior to Tuesday's game. One player said he was told of a scenario of the Warriors sending small forward Mike Dunleavy and center Adonal Foyle to the Pacers for Artest and center Jeff Foster, whom the Warriors drafted in the first round (No. 21) of the 1999 draft and immediately traded his rights to Indiana for the rights to guard Vonteego Cummings and a future pick.
The numbers match, as the Pacers' pair will earn $11.8 million this season and the Warriors' pair will make $11.9 million. Because both teams are over the salary cap, the contracts only have to come to within 25 percent of each other instead of the usual 15 percent. Also, Dunleavy and whichever one of the Warriors' younger talents -- i.e., forward/center Andris Biedrins, forward Zarko Cabarkapa, swingman Mickael Pietrus -- Indiana wants would fit. Guard Derek Fisher could be traded straight up for Artest, although it would certainly take a draft pick or a young talent to make it worth the Pacers' while.
If the Warriors were to acquire Artest, that would give them a starting perimeter of Artest, Richardson and Baron Davis. It would also significantly improve their ability to defend the perimeter.
"He plays so hard all the time," Foyle said. "We could use that. I admire anyone who plays like that."
Artest, who missed most of last season after being suspended for his part in the infamous brawl at The Palace of Auburn Hills, would certainly bring a circus to town and challenge the mellow mood of the Warriors locker room. He seems to be a magnet for controversy and is known for his temper.
The Warriors have a pretty reserved locker room, with Davis being the most flamboyant character. There seems to be little or no in-fighting and they have avoided off-the-court problems in recent years. Like Tabasco sauce on scrambled eggs, adding Artest would certainly give the Warriors roster some kick.
Warriors forward Troy Murphy said he wouldn't mind one bit.
"He'd be great (for us)," Murphy said with a smile. "It's too quiet around here."
Schedule glitch, again
The Warriors follow Tuesday's game at Seattle with a home game against Houston tonight. After the game, they'll fly to Toronto to begin a five-game road trip that ends in Detroit on Dec. 23. A tough break for a team that just played 17 games in a month without consecutive days off -- a span that included four back-to-back sets.
"You'd probably drive yourself mad trying to figure out the logic of the schedule," Warriors coach Mike Montgomery said.
Off glass
Seattle forward Danny Fortson, a former Warrior, was called for a technical foul in the second quarter for hitting Murphy in the face. Fortson was stripped going up for a shot and flailed his arms wildly, hitting Murphy. Tuesday was Fortson's first game back from a one-game NBA-imposed suspension. ... Pietrus (sprained right medial collateral ligament) and rookie forward Chris Taft (back) were the Warriors' inactive players. Pietrus was not with the team.
-- Marcus Thompson II



NO way in hell would I add Foster to that!!!!!!!!!!! Don't think I'd do it for Artest straight up..

PacerMan
12-14-2005, 05:19 PM
If you get Troy Murphy, you are sending someone else besides Artest and I'm not talking Pollard or Gill.

Apt name!

Evan_The_Dude
12-14-2005, 09:30 PM
Funny, living in Warrior land I've heard no rumors whatsoever about Artest being a possibility. And I listen to a lot of media around here.

sig
12-15-2005, 12:43 AM
I don't know that I'd want Foyle and that cntract. Dunleavey is OK but I think I'd rather have Pietris too. Diogu is also kinda interesting. How bout Pietris, Diogu and Cheaney for Artest.

Cheaney is thrown in to make the cap balance out. He is in the last year of contract and may have to be released as the pacer would have to many roster players. Of course other deals could be made to include Cheaney or to make roster space. Last year the Mavs included Alan Henserson in a deal to match salaries and get Van Horn. Bucks immediately released Henderson and he returned to the Mavs for the vet minimum.