View Full Version : Milwaukee & the Expansion Draft

Jose Slaughter
03-28-2004, 01:14 AM
Well we've reached the half way point.

The Bucks are team 15 with another 14 still to come. I was hoping to get these done before the playoffs started up. I still might but it's gonna be close. Utah & Washington might run into the first round.

The disclaimers..........

From NBA.com, a story on the Bobcats draft.

This paragraph has the basic info.

Charlotte will receive lists from each of the 27 teams not competing in the NBA Finals 10 days prior to the scheduled Expansion Draft (June 12) and those from the competing teams in the Finals within two days of the conclusion of the Finals. Team lists will designate a maximum of eight protected players for that teamís players under contract or restricted free agents for the 2004-05 NBA season. The unprotected players are eligible for selection by the Bobcats, who will draft a minimum of 14 players from NBA rosters.

Free agent info from REAL GM.

Salary information can be found at Hoops Hype

Here is the current Buck team.

Keith Van Horn
Desmond Mason
Toni Kukoc
Joe Smith
Michael Redd
TJ Ford
Marcus Haislip
Brian Skinner
Erick Strickland
Damon Jones
Daniel Santiago
Dan Gadzuric
Brevin Knight

Milwaukee has just 13 total player. 10 players are under contract for next season. 3 are listed as unrestricted free agents, so they can not be protected.

Bucks signed for 04-05

Keith Van Horn ----- $14,487,000
Desmond Mason ----- $6,429,333
Joe Smith -------------- $5,899,400
Michael Redd --------- $3,000,000
TJ Ford ----------------- $2,152,800
Marcus Haislip -------- $1,655,280
Brian Skinner --------- $1,650,000
Erick Strickland ------- $1,650,000
Daniel Santiago --------- Unlisted
Dan Gadzuric ------------ Unlisted

Free agent list

Toni Kukoc
Damon Jones
Brevin Knight

I'll start out by giving spots to Mason, Smith, Redd, Ford & Skinner. That's 5 spots with 3 still open.

Van Horn, Haislip, Strickland, Santiago & Gadzuric

That price tag for Van Horn is really steep. At more than 14M next year the Bucks can leave him out there cause there is no way the Bobcats will bite on that one.

Milwaukee won't be losing much if they leave Haislip off the list. He is so deep on the depth chart he seldom gets to play. Following next years 1.6M he has a "team option" that Charlotte could use to bail on him.

People always have nice things to say about Strickland but it never translates to playing time. I think if he wants to be there next season, he will be. I think his value is in the locker room & at 1.6M he is worth keeping around. Strickland gets spot #6

Santiago is a good young career backup in the making. Following fantasy basketball, I watched him when he was with Phoenix & was happy he found a place to play. He has started 28 pf the 49 games he's played in & at 7-1 260 is still figuring it out. Hoops Hype doesn't list his salary for next season but he is at $638,679 right now. That might put him around 718K next season. Add all that up & Santiago get the 7th spot.

I'll have to admit I'm a little bias when it comes to Gadzuric. I had him last season on my fantasy team & in this years keeper league. Coming off the bench for about 18 MPG he is hitting 53% of his FG, getting about 5 boards & 1.4 blocks. Gadzuric is listed at $563,679 for this season which would put him in the 630K range for next year. No way the Bucks leave this guy off the list. Gadzuric gets the 8th spot.

The Bucks protected list.

Desmond Mason
Joe Smith
Michael Redd
TJ Ford
Brian Skinner
Erick Strickland
Daniel Santiago
Dan Gadzuric

The Bobcats will get to select either.

Keith Van Horn
Marcus Haislip

Charlotte selects Marcus Haislip

Here is the Charlotte Expansion Draft.

Atlanta ------------- No Pick
Boston ------------- C - Kedrick Perkins -------- $729,500
Chicago ------------ No Pick
Cleveland ---------- G - Kevin Ollie ----------- $2,704,350
Dallas --------------- G - Tony Delk ----------- $3,150,000
Denver -------------- F - Ryan Bowen -------- $1,400,000 (est)
Detroit -------------- No Pick
Golden State ------ No Pick
Houston ------------ GF - Adrian Griffin ---------- $807,546
Indiana ------------- C - Primoz Brezec ------- $1,554,326
L.A. Clippers ------- F - Melvin Ely ------------- $1,742,400
L.A. Lakers --------- No Pick
Memphis ------------ GF - Dahntay Jones ---- $1,143,360
Miami ---------------- No Pick
Milwaukee ----------- F Marcus Haislip -------- $1,655,280

Total payroll $14,886,792

Charlotte's payroll next season will be 2/3's of the salary cap. If the cap is 45M then the Bobcats will have about 30M for players.

Links to previous threads in this series.

Atlanta ------ http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=996
Boston ------ http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1038
Chicago ----- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1083
Cleveland -- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1122
Dallas ------- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1162
Denver ------ http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1216
Detroit ------ http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1251
Golden St. -- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1318
Houston ---- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1355
Indiana ----- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1427
LA Clippers - http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1493
LA Lakers --- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1543
Memphis ---- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1615
Milwaukee -- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1681

Next up the Minnesota Timberwolves

Will Galen
03-28-2004, 04:29 AM
I'm trying to come up with a reason why it wouldn't be a good idea to leave Van Horn unprotected. I was thinking trade, but with Charlotte's salary cap they would have to get about 4 players back to make it feasible.

Maybe a trade with a team that has a restricted free agent it wants to get off the books? That way Charlotte could go over the . . . nah!

To sleepy to look into it right now.

03-28-2004, 08:29 AM
I agree with both the fact that Van Horn will be exposed & that Marcus Haislip will be selected.

Atlanta - no pick
Boston - Jumaine Jones $ 1,687,500
Chicago - Chris Jeffries $ 899,040
Cleveland - Kedrick Brown $ 2,332,388
Dallas - Tony Delk $ 3,150,00
Denver - no pick
Detroit - no pick
Golden State - Popeye Jones
Houston - no pick
Indiana - Primoz Brezac $1,554,326
L.A. Clips - Melvin Ely $ 1,742,400
L.A. Lakers - Devan George $ 4,500,000
Memphis - no pick (trade)
Miami - no pick
Milwaukee - Marcus Haislip $1,655,280

03-28-2004, 11:18 PM
good job protecting gadzuric, bucks are high on him. not so sure about santiago, but if he were available then bucks would snap him up. haislip is a reasonable choice. although i wouldn't be surprised if strickland is unprotected - guys like him are quite common.

to me, it would be santiago or haislip, if either were available. pass on strickland and van horn.

04-01-2004, 12:52 AM
I figure they take Haslip and between Ely and Haslip one will pan out enough for them to start with.

Atlanta - No Pick
Boston - Kedrick Perkins - $729,500
Chicago - No Pick _or_ Eddie Robinson + Draft Pick - $6,767,540 + Pick _or_ $0
Cleveland - No Pick
Dallas - Tony Delk - $3,150,000
Denver - No Pick
Detroit - No Pick _or_ Campbell (in hopes of getting talent for an expiring contract at the deadline) - $4,400,000 _or_ $0
Golden State - No Pick
Houston - Adrian Griffin - $807,546
Indiana - Primoz Brezec - $1,554,326
LA Clippers - Melvin Ely - $1,742,400
LA Lakers - No Pick
Memphis - Theron Smith - $620,046
Miami - No Pick
Milwaukee - Marcus Haislip $1,655,280

$21,426,638 if they take both Robinson and Campbell. Draft pick from Chicago will add to that though too.

$10,259,098 if they take neither of the above

04-02-2004, 12:33 AM

04-02-2004, 06:59 AM
yeah! haislip! That's what I'm talking about! :D


3,1ppg and 0,1apg... but only 8,7mpg

04-02-2004, 10:03 AM
Gadzuric looks to be FA at the end of the year, according to the Mil site he was signed to a min contract at the beginning of this year, after a 2nd round contract the year before.

They might have a less easy time to hold on to him I for one wouldn't mind if the Pacers made a run for him besides his talent he is also Dutch, might be a good luck charm after RiK S.

anyway, that leaves room to protect Haslip I would guess.