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Jose Slaughter
03-27-2004, 02:30 PM
I'm going to update this after each days games are completed.

Here are the current league standings.

Indiana --------- 53-19
Sacramento ---- 51-21
L.A. Lakers ----- 49-23
Minnesota ------ 50-24
San Antonio ---- 48-25
Memphis -------- 46-26
Detroit ---------- 47-27
Dallas ----------- 44-28

We swept the season series with Dallas, were swept by the Kings & split with Lakers, Minnesota, San Antonio & Memphis.

We have a 3-0 advantage with Detroit with one game still to play.

Here is a link to the standings. At the bottom is a list of tie breakers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2004&group=league&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Two-Team Tiebreaker
1. Better record in head-to-head games
2. Higher winning percentage in conference games
3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference
6. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed

Here is the current magic number for each team.

Sacramento ----- 9
L.A. Lakers ------ 7
Minnesota ------- 6
San Antonio ---- 5
Memphis -------- 4
Detroit ---------- 2
Dallas ----------- 1

*Changes made after Saturday nights games:

Minnesota, San Antonio & Detroit all won so their numbers stay the same.

Jersey lost & they have dropped off the board

ABADays
03-27-2004, 04:18 PM
So let me understand this. If we lose all of our remaining 10 games and the first 25 next season and Orlando wins their remaining games and wins their first 25 next season we will be tied?

Jose Slaughter
03-27-2004, 07:09 PM
That is exactly right!

Only problem is, if that were to happen, there would be no more basketball.

The moon would have exploded or the ice caps would have melted or hell would have frozen over.... something along those lines.

Jose Slaughter
03-29-2004, 01:41 AM
I'm going to update this after each days games are completed.

Here are the current league standings.

Indiana --------- 54-19 ----- .739
Sacramento ---- 52-21 ----- .712
L.A. Lakers ----- 50-23 ----- .684
Minnesota ------ 50-24 ----- .675
San Antonio ---- 48-25 ----- .657
Memphis -------- 47-26 ----- .643
Detroit ---------- 47-27 ----- .635

We were swept by the Kings & split with Lakers, Minnesota, San Antonio & Memphis.

We have a 3-0 advantage with Detroit with one game still to play.

Here is a link to the standings. At the bottom is a list of tie breakers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2004&group=league&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Two-Team Tiebreaker
1. Better record in head-to-head games
2. Higher winning percentage in conference games
3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference
6. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed

Here is the current magic number for each team.

Sacramento ----- 8
L.A. Lakers ------ 6
Minnesota ------- 5
San Antonio ---- 4
Memphis -------- 3
Detroit ---------- 1

* Updates from Sundays games.

The Pacers won, but so did Sacramento, L.A. & Memphis so everyones magic number dropped 1.

With the Pacer win, Dallas has been removed from the board.

Indyfan
03-29-2004, 11:17 AM
Jose, Thanks for taking the time to keep us up on this. I hope the Lakers don't catch the Kings, but at least we can hopefully stay ahead of the Lakers! It is going to be exciting down the stretch! :gopacers:

Ragnar
03-29-2004, 01:27 PM
Minor change needed the Kings are 52-21 (.712) not 51-21.

Jose Slaughter
03-29-2004, 01:48 PM
Thanks for the catch.

I hate making misstakes! :cry:

Jose Slaughter
03-30-2004, 02:30 AM
I'm going to update this after each days games are completed.

Here are the current league standings.

Indiana --------- 54-19 ----- .739
Sacramento ---- 52-21 ----- .712
L.A. Lakers ----- 50-23 ----- .684
Minnesota ------ 51-24 ----- .680
San Antonio ---- 49-25 ----- .662
Memphis -------- 48-26 ----- .648
Detroit ---------- 47-27 ----- .635

We were swept by the Kings & split with Lakers, Minnesota, San Antonio & Memphis.

We have a 3-0 advantage with Detroit with one game still to play.

Here is a link to the standings. At the bottom is a list of tie breakers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2004&group=league&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Two-Team Tiebreaker
1. Better record in head-to-head games
2. Higher winning percentage in conference games
3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference
6. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed

Here is the current magic number for each team.

Sacramento ----- 8
L.A. Lakers ------ 6
Minnesota ------- 5
San Antonio ---- 4
Memphis -------- 3
Detroit ---------- 1

* Update following Monday nights games.

Minnesota, San Antonio & Memhis were the only teams in action & all won their games.

Jose Slaughter
03-31-2004, 02:48 AM
I'm going to update this after each days games are completed.

Here are the current league standings.

Indiana --------- 54-20 ----- .729
Sacramento ---- 52-21 ----- .712
L.A. Lakers ----- 51-23 ----- .689
Minnesota ------ 51-24 ----- .680
San Antonio ---- 49-25 ----- .662
Memphis -------- 48-26 ----- .648
Detroit ---------- 47-27 ----- .635

We were swept by the Kings & split with Lakers, Minnesota, San Antonio & Memphis.

We have a 3-0 advantage with Detroit with one game still to play.

Here is a link to the standings. At the bottom is a list of tie breakers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2004&group=league&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Two-Team Tiebreaker
1. Better record in head-to-head games
2. Higher winning percentage in conference games
3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference
6. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed

Here is the current magic number for each team.

Sacramento ----- 8
L.A. Lakers ------ 6
Minnesota ------- 5
San Antonio ---- 4
Memphis -------- 3
Detroit ---------- 1

* Update from Tuesday nights games.

Pacers loose & the Lakers win so all magic numbers remain the same.

Wednesday nights of note
Detroit is home against the Clippers
Minnesota is home against Seattle
San Antonio is home against Sacramento

Jose Slaughter
04-01-2004, 02:05 AM
I'm going to update this after each days games are completed.

Here are the current league standings.

Indiana --------- 55-20 ----- .733
Sacramento ---- 52-22 ----- .702
L.A. Lakers ----- 51-23 ----- .689
Minnesota ------ 51-24 ----- .680
San Antonio ---- 50-25 ----- .666
Memphis -------- 48-26 ----- .648
Detroit ---------- 48-27 ----- .640

We were swept by the Kings & split with Lakers, Minnesota, San Antonio & Memphis.

We have a 3-0 advantage with Detroit with one game still to play.

Here is a link to the standings. At the bottom is a list of tie breakers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2004&group=league&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Two-Team Tiebreaker
1. Better record in head-to-head games
2. Higher winning percentage in conference games
3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference
6. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed

Here is the current magic number for each team.

Sacramento ----- 6
L.A. Lakers ------ 5
Minnesota ------- 4
San Antonio ---- 3
Memphis -------- 2

* Update following Wednesday nights games.

With the Pacer win & the Kings loss the Pacers magic number drops to 6.

Even though the Pistons won they can no longer catch us so they were dropped from the board.

Games of note for Thursday.

Sacramento is in Dallas

Lakers are home against Houston

kerosene
04-02-2004, 12:35 AM
bump

Shade
04-02-2004, 12:49 AM
The magic number is now 5.

Jose Slaughter
04-02-2004, 02:34 AM
I'm going to update this after each days games are completed.

Here are the current league standings.

Indiana --------- 55-20 ----- .733
Sacramento ---- 52-23 ----- .693
L.A. Lakers ----- 52-23 ----- .693
Minnesota ------ 51-24 ----- .680
San Antonio ---- 50-25 ----- .666
Memphis -------- 48-26 ----- .648

We were swept by the Kings & split with Lakers, Minnesota, San Antonio & Memphis.

We have a 3-0 advantage with Detroit with one game still to play.

Here is a link to the standings. At the bottom is a list of tie breakers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2004&group=league&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Two-Team Tiebreaker
1. Better record in head-to-head games
2. Higher winning percentage in conference games
3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference
6. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed

Here is the current magic number for each team.

Sacramento ----- 5
L.A. Lakers ------ 4
Minnesota ------- 3
San Antonio ---- 3
Memphis -------- 1

* Update following Thursdays games.

As everyone knows the Kings lost another & the magic numbers is now down to 5 for the Kings & 4 for the Lakers. That's due to the first tie breaker, head to head.

Games of note for Friday.

Indiana is at home against Toronto

Minnesota is at home against Washington

Memphis is at home against Phoenix

San Antonio is at Utah

Lakers are in Seattle

kerosene
04-02-2004, 02:37 AM
I hope people who were rooting for the Lakers the other night take note. I'd much rather the Kings have homecourt (despite their inability in the past to use it to their advantage) than the Lakers.

Suaveness
04-02-2004, 03:07 AM
I hope people who were rooting for the Lakers the other night take note. I'd much rather the Kings have homecourt (despite their inability in the past to use it to their advantage) than the Lakers.

Yes. I don't know WHY anyone would root for the Lakers :mad:

Jose Slaughter
04-02-2004, 07:36 AM
There are a couple reasons to root for the Lakers.

1. Revenge

2. We own the tie breakers against the Lakers & not the Kings.

Sacramento swept us but we split with LA. So we need to finish a game ahead of Sacramento but we can be tied with LA & still get home court.

The next tie breaker is conference winning %.

Indiana -------- 35-12 --- .744

LA -------------- 27-18 --- .600

Sacramento --- 29-17 --- 630

Pacers have 7 conference games remaining & can finish with a % between .648 & .777

LA has 7 conference games remaining & can finish with a % between .519 & .653

Sacramento has 6 conference games (1 more against the East) remainig & can finish with a % between .557 to .673

What all those numbers boil down to is this,

The Pacers need to finish with a higher conference winning % than either LA or Sacramento. That would be .673

To do that the Pacers would need to win 37 conference games. Thats just 2 of their last 7.

All that really means squat. Pacers win 5 out of 7, nobody can catch us

marcd
04-02-2004, 09:32 AM
Ok, so here is my question. The Pacers have 7 games left, all conference games, they have a 3 game lead on Sacramento and LA. What is their magic number for home court throughout? Is it 4? Or any combination of 4 Pacer wins and Sacramento and Laker losses? Or is it 2 as stated above since the Lakers and Kings have lesser records in their conference?

Please a number?!?!?!?

MarcD

able
04-02-2004, 09:39 AM
(two posts up)

Here is the current magic number for each team.

Sacramento ----- 5
L.A. Lakers ------ 4
Minnesota ------- 3
San Antonio ---- 3
Memphis -------- 1

* Update following Thursdays games.

As everyone knows the Kings lost another & the magic numbers is now down to 5 for the Kings & 4 for the Lakers. That's due to the first tie breaker, head to head.

BigMac
04-02-2004, 09:39 AM
Ok, so here is my question. The Pacers have 7 games left, all conference games, they have a 3 game lead on Sacramento and LA. What is their magic number for home court throughout? Is it 4? Or any combination of 4 Pacer wins and Sacramento and Laker losses? Or is it 2 as stated above since the Lakers and Kings have lesser records in their conference?

Please a number?!?!?!?

MarcD

My suggestion is to pay attention only to the loss column. From there, you can figure how many games are left for each team and how many losses would be the worst/best case scenario for each team you are looking at.

Unclebuck
04-02-2004, 09:53 AM
Pacers magic number is 5 with the Kings.

Pacers magic number is 4 with the Lakers.

The one game difference is because the pacers have lost the tie-breaker with the Kings, but have won the tie breaker with the Lakers.

With the Kings schedule and the way they are playing, I would focus on the Lakers

So in effect 4 is the magic number

Jose Slaughter
04-03-2004, 02:05 AM
I'm going to update this after each days games are completed.

Here are the current league standings.

Indiana --------- 56-20 ----- .736
L.A. Lakers ----- 53-23 ----- .697
Sacramento ---- 52-23 ----- .693
Minnesota ------ 52-24 ----- .684
San Antonio ---- 51-25 ----- .671
Memphis -------- 49-26 ----- .653

We were swept by the Kings & split with Lakers, Minnesota, San Antonio & Memphis.

We have a 3-0 advantage with Detroit with one game still to play.

Here is a link to the standings. At the bottom is a list of tie breakers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2004&group=league&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Two-Team Tiebreaker
1. Better record in head-to-head games
2. Higher winning percentage in conference games
3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference
6. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed

Here is the current magic number for each team.

Sacramento ----- 4
L.A. Lakers ------ 3
De la Soul ------- 3
Minnesota ------- 2
San Antonio ----- 2
Memphis --------- 1

Everyone that played tonight, won tonight.

Memphis can still tie us with overall record & we split the season series so it would go to the next tie breaker, which is still undecided. That's the only reason they are still on the board.

Saturdays games of interest:

None of the teams still alive are in action.

Ragnar
04-03-2004, 10:50 AM
De la Soul ------- 3



WTF????

Jose Slaughter
04-03-2004, 02:55 PM
De la Soul ------- 3



WTF????

Sorry, I was just wondering if anyone would get the joke.

De la Soul's first CD is called 3 Feet High & Rising

on it, I learned that 3 is a magic number. :laugh:

Jose Slaughter
04-04-2004, 02:22 AM
I'm going to update this after each days games are completed.

Here are the current league standings.

Indiana --------- 56-20 ----- .736
L.A. Lakers ----- 53-23 ----- .697
Sacramento ---- 52-23 ----- .693
Minnesota ------ 52-24 ----- .684
San Antonio ---- 51-25 ----- .671
Memphis -------- 49-26 ----- .653

We were swept by the Kings & split with Lakers, Minnesota, San Antonio & Memphis.

We have a 3-0 advantage with Detroit with one game still to play.

Here is a link to the standings. At the bottom is a list of tie breakers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2004&group=league&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Two-Team Tiebreaker
1. Better record in head-to-head games
2. Higher winning percentage in conference games
3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference
6. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed

Here is the current magic number for each team.

Sacramento ----- 4
L.A. Lakers ------ 3
Minnesota ------- 2
San Antonio ----- 2
Memphis --------- 1

*Update following Saturday nights games.

None of the teams listed above, played on Saturday.

Games of note for Sunday.

Indiana at Detroit

Sacramento at Houston

Memphis at Minnesota

San Antonio at L.A.

Jose Slaughter
04-04-2004, 08:39 PM
I'm going to update this after each days games are completed.

Here are the current league standings.

Indiana --------- 56-21 ----- .727
Sacramento ---- 53-23 ----- .697
L.A. Lakers ----- 53-24 ----- .688
Minnesota ------ 53-24 ----- .688
San Antonio ---- 52-25 ----- .675

We were swept by the Kings & split with Lakers, Minnesota, San Antonio & Memphis.

Here is a link to the standings. At the bottom is a list of tie breakers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2004&group=league&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Two-Team Tiebreaker
1. Better record in head-to-head games
2. Higher winning percentage in conference games
3. Higher winning percentage within division (if teams are in the same division)
4. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in own conference
5. Higher winning percentage against playoff teams in opposite conference
6. Higher point differential between points scored and points allowed

Here is the current magic number for each team.

Sacramento ----- 4
L.A. Lakers ------ 2
Minnesota ------- 2
San Antonio ----- 2

Even though the Pacers lost we still picked up a game on the Lakers when they lost to San Antonio.

Minnesota knocked the Grizzlies off the board with their win over Memphis.

There is an NBA game Monday but Memphis at Utah won't change anything here.

Hicks
04-04-2004, 08:50 PM
During the broadcast of the Lakers game, it was said the tie-breaker across conferences is your record against the OTHER conference. So the Lakers will have the tiebreaker if we have identical records.

Anthem
04-07-2004, 12:54 AM
BUMP.

Indy, Sacto, and the Lakers played tonight. Indy and Sacto won, while the Lakers lost. New records are:

Indiana --------- 57-21 ----- .731 (4 games left)
Sacramento ---- 54-23 ----- .701 (5 games left)
Minnesota ------ 54-24 ----- .692 (4 games left)
L.A. Lakers ----- 53-25 ----- .680 (4 games left)
San Antonio ---- 52-25 ----- .675 (5 games left)

Assuming we lose tiebreaker with everyone, we haven't eliminated anyone yet. According to my calculations, the magic numbers are as follows:

Sacramento - 3 games
Minnesota - 2 games
L.A. Lakers - 1 game
San Antonio - 1 game

I didn't realize we were that close to locking up. Any combination of 3 wins or Sacto losses wins us homecourt throughout the playoffs.

Jose Slaughter
04-07-2004, 01:03 AM
Thanks Anthem.

I was struggling with the Phily Expansion Draft thread & was running a little behind getting this done.

Anthem
04-07-2004, 01:04 AM
Thanks Anthem.

I was struggling with the Phily Expansion Draft thread & was running a little behind getting this done.

Didn't mean to steal if from ya... i just didn't see you around.

Shade
04-07-2004, 01:06 AM
I hope the Spurs finish ahead of the Lakers. It may take homecourt for SA to win. Unfortunately, LA owns the tiebreaker. :unimpressed:

Jose Slaughter
04-07-2004, 01:24 AM
These are the teams in contention for the best record.

The numbers are their W-L records & winning % against the opposing conference.

L.A. ------------ 25-5 .833

Minnesota ----- 24-6 .800

Sacramento -- 24-6 .800

San Antonio --- 22-8 .733

Indiana -------- 20-8 .714

If this is the 2nd tie breaker then the Pacers will loose any tie breaker should we end with identical records.

We will need to finish 1 full game ahead of everyone in order to get home court in the finals.

No problem !!!! :pepper:

stew
04-07-2004, 01:45 AM
we are the only team with the chance at 60 wins...

go pacers!!!! :pepper: :dance:

Anthem
04-07-2004, 01:53 AM
These are the teams in contention for the best record.

The numbers are their W-L records & winning % against the opposing conference.

L.A. ------------ 25-5 .833
Minnesota ----- 24-6 .800
Sacramento -- 24-6 .800
San Antonio --- 22-8 .733
Indiana -------- 20-8 .714

You know, tiebreaker aside, that's a pretty impressive stat. For all the talk of the west being so much better than the east, our records are comparable. That's amazing.

Jose Slaughter
04-07-2004, 11:10 PM
Indiana --------- 58-21 ----- .734 (3 games left)
Sacramento ---- 54-23 ----- .701 (5 games left)
Minnesota ------ 54-24 ----- .692 (4 games left)

Assuming we lose tiebreaker with everyone, we haven't eliminated anyone yet. According to my calculations, the magic numbers are as follows:

Sacramento - 2 games
Minnesota - 1 games

It's down to a 3 team race!
:boomer:

Minnesota is at Sacramento on Thursday nigth.

Jose Slaughter
04-09-2004, 12:44 AM
Indiana --------- 58-21 ----- .734 (3 games left)
Minnesota ------ 55-24 ----- .696 (3 games left)
Sacramento ---- 54-24 ----- .692 (4 games left)

Assuming we lose tiebreaker with everyone, we haven't eliminated anyone yet. According to my calculations, the magic numbers are as follows:

Sacramento - 1 games
Minnesota - 1 games

It's down to a 1 team..................


US

We win one more game, it's over baby!

Anthem
04-09-2004, 01:27 AM
I can't believe we're going to win 61 games this season.

Most of Jordan's Bulls teams didn't win that many games.

Southside_Pacer
04-09-2004, 01:29 AM
Didn't we beat that Bulls team twice that won over 70 games?

Suaveness
04-09-2004, 01:36 AM
Yeah I think we did.