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ROCislandWarrior
01-20-2004, 11:33 PM
Last night Ben Wallace shuts tim duncan up

Tonight Jermaine does whatever he wants with ben

Jermaine also battled with duncan twice (and won both IMO)

28 doub-doubs

he never scores 30+...just always scores right around 20 every night

always pulls in the boards

I mean...WOW... and to think he is getting better (See: his outside shot, passing, Defense)

BigMac
01-20-2004, 11:36 PM
He's very good to say the least.

But it's interesting to read the quotes from the opposition following the games on Pacers.com.

Basically they all say this in a nutshell, "Those guys came out, played aggressive, were very physical and basically controlled the tempo".

Granted that 's not a quote but it's basically the same for everyone we play. I have found that extremely interesting this season.

ROCislandWarrior
01-20-2004, 11:38 PM
^^^^Perhaps that is why we perform very well in back to back games

we set such a high standard of play
that instead of having a let down..we play good enough to keep in the game

Unclebuck
01-20-2004, 11:44 PM
Jermaine O'Neal is extremely good. He is the best overall player in the eastern conference. Not just the best big man.

His talent level is off the charts and he wants it, he wants it bad.

The one play tonight, it was on a semi-fastbreak against Ben Wallace and J.O hit a little running 8 foot shot, he made it look so easy, but it was a damn tough shot.

J.O makes very difficult things look easy. Pacers fans take him for granted

ROCislandWarrior
01-20-2004, 11:49 PM
The one play tonight, it was on a semi-fastbreak against Ben Wallace and J.O hit a little running 8 foot shot, he made it look so easy, but it was a damn tough shot.


Hell yeah it was...

I am 6' 0" and it is tough for me to hit

O'neal is 7'0" and going against the best shot blocker in the NBA

His talent level is off the charts and he wants it, he wants it bad.

Yes he does...I member him saying "Some players play for the money...I play this game to win a championship"

He also cried when he got his big contract which means that this game, team and city mean alot to him

Southside_Pacer
01-21-2004, 12:42 AM
Yeah, I do agree that we take JO for granted quite a bit.

JO goes for over 20/10 each night and he does it so often it's normal for us to see it. He's a force on BOTH ends of the court and is a very complete player. We're so lucky to have him.

He's also a great all around person case in point with his work in the community.

Kstat
01-21-2004, 12:47 AM
He also cried when he got his big contract which means that this game, team and city mean alot to him

Actually, the $100+ million and Isiah Thomas is what meant a lot to him....if Thomas was let go BEFORE JO signed his deal, he'd probably be in SA right now. But, that was JO's fault for being childish enough to believe what he was being fed at the time.

Just putting things in perspective.

Big props for Oneal, he's the best player in the East, hands down.

ROCislandWarrior
01-21-2004, 01:00 AM
Actually, the $100+ million and Isiah Thomas is what meant a lot to him....if Thomas was let go BEFORE JO signed his deal, he'd probably be in SA right now. But, that was JO's fault for being childish enough to believe what he was being fed at the time.

Kstat...when the dust settled and a reporter asked him if he would have resigned if IT was fired earlier he said "Yes...this city and team mean so much to me....."

Just putting things in perspective ;)

Kstat
01-21-2004, 01:04 AM
Actually, the $100+ million and Isiah Thomas is what meant a lot to him....if Thomas was let go BEFORE JO signed his deal, he'd probably be in SA right now. But, that was JO's fault for being childish enough to believe what he was being fed at the time.

Kstat...when the dust settled and a reporter asked him if he would have resigned if IT was fired earlier he said "Yes...this city and team mean so much to me....."

Just putting things in perspective ;)


...meanwhile when he went on to the NATIONAL media show (ESPN, TNT, I forgot), he said he would NOT be playing in Indiana if he knew Zeke wasn't going to stay there.

ROCislandWarrior
01-21-2004, 01:06 AM
ROCislandWarrior wrote:
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Actually, the $100+ million and Isiah Thomas is what meant a lot to him....if Thomas was let go BEFORE JO signed his deal, he'd probably be in SA right now. But, that was JO's fault for being childish enough to believe what he was being fed at the time.


Kstat...when the dust settled and a reporter asked him if he would have resigned if IT was fired earlier he said "Yes...this city and team mean so much to me....."

Just putting things in perspective



...meanwhile when he went on to the NATIONAL media show (ESPN, TNT, I forgot), he said he would NOT be playing in Indiana if he knew Zeke wasn't going to stay there.

Yes Kstat...I heard him say it several times early in the season

but the last time they asked him this he said what I told you... "After the dust settled"

ROCislandWarrior
01-21-2004, 01:06 AM
besides O'neal has ALWAYS said how much he owes Indiana because they gave him a chance

Kstat
01-21-2004, 01:13 AM
Well, I think its more that he doesnt want to bee seen as a baby on a #1 team so he's playing the good son.....weather he's being truthful is irrelevant anyway, this point is at the TIME of his signing, what mattered to JO was Zeke and the money. It was a very smart buisness decision to con him into it, I have no problem with that. But its a little idealistic to think if JO could, he wouldnt be on the first plane to NY to play for the Knicks.

ROCislandWarrior
01-21-2004, 01:17 AM
But its a little idealistic to think if JO couldnt, he wouldnt be on the first plane to NY to play for the Knicks.

Never said that...but it would be pretty ignorant to say that the city of indianapolis and this team don't mean alot to him

You think JO would just get on a plane and go to NY... some people do have feelings and that might be a little hard

Anthem
01-21-2004, 02:07 AM
The comment about Jermaine getting pretty much the same thing every night is really interesting to me.

I don't believe the guy has ever had a 40-point game in his life. Which means that Harrington has scored more points in one game than Jermaine O'Neal.

Even in the playoffs last year, when Dick Harter put a D together especially for JO, he still averaged 20/20.

But it's odd, isn't it, that he's never had a really high-scoring game? It's just a consistent 20-25 points a night.

ROCislandWarrior
01-21-2004, 10:35 AM
But it's odd, isn't it, that he's never had a really high-scoring game? It's just a consistent 20-25 points a night.

Yeah....some nights it looks like he is going to get that 40 point game...but the he just ends up with 20 some.

But I think that is a testament to his consistancy...If they would rank players by the Standard Deviation of their scores...I wonder how high JO would be

Slick Pinkham
01-21-2004, 10:41 AM
If Minnesota does NOT win their division, I think JO should get serious MVP consideration.

why Minnesota?

Because Keving Garnett is the best player in the NBA, and he should be the MVP if he also leads his team to first place.

If not, JO ought to be there with Duncan and Peja for MVP voting.

ROCislandWarrior
01-21-2004, 01:25 PM
If JO leads his team to the Finals...and Garnett and Duncan do not

JO will have a much stronger case

Slick Pinkham
01-21-2004, 01:28 PM
If JO leads his team to the Finals...and Garnett and Duncan do not

JO will have a much stronger case

The MVP voting is done before the playoffs, though the results are announced later.

ROCislandWarrior
01-21-2004, 01:30 PM
The MVP voting is done before the playoffs, though the results are announced later.

That is unfortunate...

Maybe next year

ABADays
01-21-2004, 02:04 PM
He's alright.

naptownmenace
01-21-2004, 02:23 PM
The MVP voting is done before the playoffs, though the results are announced later.

That is unfortunate...

Maybe next year

Fellas, fellas... the most important award JO could win this year, and the one he probably has his eyes on, is the NBA Finals MVP. Sho nuff!

7-Layer Burrito
01-21-2004, 02:52 PM
O'Neal is good enough now, that I take his game for granted. Every time he takes the court, I chalk up 20 and 10 for the Pacers. I think Buck mentioned that 8 foot runner he made look effortless last night. Every time I see him make one of those plays, I have to remind myself that he is 7 feet tall, just to keep things in perspective.

ROCislandWarrior
01-21-2004, 03:16 PM
I have to remind myself that he is 7 feet tall

and he was going against Ben Wallace!!!

Jermaine's actions told us he doesn't care who's guarding him...he is going to score...I LOVE that attitude

sixthman
01-21-2004, 11:58 PM
JO is good enough that most teams would love to build a franchise around him.

ROCislandWarrior
01-22-2004, 12:01 AM
JO is good enough that most teams would love to build a franchise around him.

JO IS REALLY, REALLY GOOD!


My bro tried to tell me today that Orlando would not trade Tmac for JO

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