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The Rules of Pacers Digest

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Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.

A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.

Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.

Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:

http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star

Rule #6

We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

Rule #7

Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

Rule #9

Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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Why did you become a Pacers fan

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  • Why did you become a Pacers fan

    I didn't have any choice. I had a whole house of screaming Pacers fans that included my Grandma, Grandpa, Aunt, Cousin, and Dad. In my house you didn't have any choice - unless you just enjoyed chores!

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    Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

    Indiana. Simple as that. I live in Indianapolis, I root for the Pacers and Colts. I also love the underdog mentality that the Pacers/Colts always seem to be faced with. Reggie, Dale, Rik, Mark, Antonio...the list of the players goes on and on.
    Sorry, I didn't know advertising was illegal here. Someone call the cops!

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    • #3
      Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

      I was born gold/blue.

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      • #4
        Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

        mostly my dad's influence. growing up in the midst of the Jordan era, I was a Pacer/Reggie fan. strange as it seems now. a lot comes from being in IN.
        It's a new day for Pacers Basketball.

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        • #5
          Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

          My parents and the rest of my family for that matter were all Pacers fans. I've always watched all their Playoff games abut I didn't become intrested in their regular season game until about 5 years ago (freshman in HS). I've been a Colts fan for that same reason too.

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          • #6
            Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

            My parents liked the Pacers, so I automatically came to like them too. I didn't really become a hard core fan though, until about 6th grade. Ever since then, it has been Pacers all the way!
            31 Forever

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            • #7
              Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

              Because Btown made me do unspeakable things....
              Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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              • #8
                Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

                Reggie Miller of course

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                • #9
                  Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

                  I wrote this up for something on another site - not exactly the same question, but somewhat close:

                  Growing up in Indiana, basketball was always more than just a sport; it was a way of life. Unlike other states, pretty much every house, garage, or barn in Indiana has a basketball hoop attached to it. My father always watched Indiana University basketball and Indiana Pacers basketball, so naturally, I began to do the same. Over the years, I have grown very fond of the sport and my team, the Indiana Pacers. Reggie Miller, not Michael Jordan, personified basketball throughout my whole lifetime, so this next season will be a new experience for me.

                  However, several years ago, my family and I moved from Indiana to Florida due to a change in my father's job. Life was tough for me at my new high school, and I had trouble making friends. Through this, my passion for sports started to grow even more, as I read about and watched sports to relieve the day's stress. This allowed me to then make new friends, as I had a common interest with others now. My family ordered NBA League Pass, and my father and I still sit down to watch Pacers games together. This is one of the few things we get to do together, but I enjoy every moment.

                  The 04-05 season was indeed a rough and wild one to watch. As some of you might know, Ron Artest is my favorite player (I love watching him play defense). The injuries, brawl, and suspensions not only took their tole on the players, but also the fans. I did not give up on the team, though, and the team did not give up on their fans. On November 20th (the day after the famous brawl), new players stepped up, and Fred Jones scored 31 points. Only 6 players dressed, but they played their hearts out, and almost won the game. I can honestly say that game is one of my favorite all-time Pacers games, and it made me proud to be a fan. By the end of the year, suspensions, injuries, etc. had caused the Pacers players to collectively miss over 430 games, and the season proved to be very memorable. Next year looks to be another strong year, so I'm hoping they can bring home the Pacers first ever NBA Championship.

                  Ultimately, through the Pacers, I have experienced many new and exciting circumstances - my childhood was fantastic, I made friends, I now spend more quality time with my dad, and I get to enjoy one great season after another. What more could a die-hard basketball fan ask for?
                  Check out my autographed 1972-73 Topps basketball project

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                  • #10
                    Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

                    I've lived in Indiana my entire life so obviously I knew of the Pacers. I was named after Micheal Jordan so as a kid I loved Micheal so I loved the Bulls. I was 9 when MJ retired (the second time) and so I started watching the Pacers with my dad (who has been a Pacers fan for a long time) and loved watching Reggie make all those crazy shots and Rik just being Rik. I have loved ever since then (I'm pretty sure that was the 98-99 season).

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                    • #11
                      Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

                      The 8 points in 8.9 seconds was the moment I fell in love with this team and the game of basketball. Before then I was pretty much just a casual fan.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

                        Reggie.
                        PACER FAN ON STRIKE!!!-The moment the Pacers fire Larry Bird I will cheer for them again.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

                          In 1990, I was 4 years old, the skinny guy, can't think of his name, dazzled my young mind. I cried when the Pisstons swept us, I've loved the Pacers, hated the Pisstons since.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

                            When I was 7 (& im 19 now) i was watching the only team that they would put on tv (the bulls, I live in washington state about 2hrs from Spokane) and i was watching Jordan play but there was this skinny guy that was just dropping bombs and stuff i dont know what game it was but i was impressed and ever since then its been Pacers this Pacers that.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Why did you become a Pacers fan

                              I like teams that jump in crowds and beat up other teams fans.

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