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Anthem
08-03-2005, 10:58 AM
So my wife and I are starting a publishing company. I'll make it real short:

Top Hat Publishing? or
Tophat Publishing?

I like "Tophat" but my wife has this crazy idea that a publishing company should use words that are actually in the dictionary. I agree, in theory, but I just think Tophat looks cooler. Plus, you can say "To Phat" when you feel like it.

What do you think?

Vicious Tyrant
08-03-2005, 11:00 AM
I vote Top Hat.

What are you going to publish? My posts are copyrighted, so don't get any ideas!

MagicRat
08-03-2005, 11:01 AM
I'd compromise with "TopHat". Rhymes with "MagicRat"..............

Anthem
08-03-2005, 11:03 AM
I'd compromise with "TopHat". Rhymes with "MagicRat"..............

Well, the logo is in all caps, which makes it hard.

Anthem
08-03-2005, 11:04 AM
I vote Top Hat.

What are you going to publish? My posts are copyrighted, so don't get any ideas!

Why would I publish yours when I could publish mine? :D

Pretty much anything.

Pacers#1Fan
08-03-2005, 11:07 AM
I think Top Hat looks better.

MagicRat
08-03-2005, 11:07 AM
Well, the logo is in all caps, which makes it hard.

:mad:

TOP HAT and TOPHAT weren't even listed as options!........:-p :cool:

ChicagoJ
08-03-2005, 11:11 AM
I've got a notion to edit the poll and add them. :nerd:

Los Angeles
08-03-2005, 11:21 AM
You need to go to the United States Patent and Trademark Office - uspto.gov - and look for any trademarks using those names to make sure they are not taken.

And by the way, the reason there has been a 20 year trend of companies that make up words for thier names (like Initech) is to avoid trademark infringment. Don't do all the work just to get socked with a stack of legal bills.

If there is another Tophat or Top Hat, even if it is "Top Hat Ice Cream Parlor" they WILL find you and challenge you in court.

Do the research and avoid a hassle by using something unique and not registered.

Zesty
08-03-2005, 11:34 AM
If there is another Tophat or Top Hat, even if it is "Top Hat Ice Cream Parlor" they WILL find you and challenge you in court.

Wait, what? You've got to be kidding me. How could that possibly be true? As long as the names aren't too close to being the same, I don't see what grounds Top Hat Ice Cream Parlor would have to sue Top Hat Publishing for the name.

Will Galen
08-03-2005, 11:43 AM
I when with Tophat because it can be read two ways.

Los Angeles
08-03-2005, 11:50 AM
Wait, what? You've got to be kidding me. How could that possibly be true? As long as the names aren't too close to being the same, I don't see what grounds Top Hat Ice Cream Parlor would have to sue Top Hat Publishing for the name.
Remember that what is legal and what lawyers will try to do to you are two different things. If there is a Tophat channel or a Tophat Records, you're coming REALLY close to the publishing world. I used "Ice Cream Parlor" to make a point - even if they don't have a case, you'll still have to pay legal fees to fight it.

Los Angeles
08-03-2005, 12:01 PM
I did it for you. It appears "Tophat Publishing" was registered in 2001, but later abandoned in 2002. I don't know the legal status of the trademark (meaning I don't know if it is available or not) at this stage.

There were 75 hits for all registered trademarks using either Tophat or Top Hat:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=fuk7sr.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=Top+Hat&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query

Vicious Tyrant
08-03-2005, 12:27 PM
Why Top Hat/Tophat/TOP HAT/TOPHAT?

Anthem
08-03-2005, 01:34 PM
There's 150 Top Hat Something companies registered in the tri-state (Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky) area. None of them are publishing-related.

What's it cost to register a federal trademark?

EDIT: A lot. We're gonna be a smalltime operation for the forseeable future.

Los Angeles
08-03-2005, 01:43 PM
What's it cost to register a federal trademark?

$325 per "class" of goods and/or services.

Shade
08-03-2005, 03:10 PM
Top Hat, definitely. Tophat just looks weird. :disturbed

Anthem
08-03-2005, 05:08 PM
$325 per "class" of goods and/or services.

Yeah, I couldn't tell what that means. It's referring to movies, tshirts, action figures and so on, right?

I think I'd only need one "class" of goods/services: the company logo. I don't care if other people make shirts that say TopHat on them. Is that right?

Is the 325 a per-year thing?

Anthem
08-03-2005, 05:08 PM
Here's the prelim logo. The spacing on the top will have to be adjusted, but we'll get there.

MagicRat
08-03-2005, 05:14 PM
How about TopHat?

Hey, I could go for that one......:thumbsup:

Los Angeles
08-03-2005, 05:28 PM
Yeah, I couldn't tell what that means. It's referring to movies, tshirts, action figures and so on, right?

I think I'd only need one "class" of goods/services: the company logo. I don't care if other people make shirts that say TopHat on them. Is that right?

Is the 325 a per-year thing?
The "international class" thing is a little wierd. For instance, everything computer related is in class 42. So even if you build custom hardware AND build websites (what I would think are 2 classes) you only pay the one fee.

BUT - if you build websites and market a clothing line, tose are two different class numbers.

Listen, I really could be wrong here. I haven't gone through the process personally, even though I should take my own advise and do it. What I know is what I've basically overheard while working at an Intellectual Property law firm.

Snickers
08-03-2005, 05:28 PM
Why not just go with Toophat?

Kegboy
08-03-2005, 06:22 PM
I think you should go with To Phat. But then, Graham would come in and say it should be Too Phat.

Anthem
08-03-2005, 06:50 PM
I think you should go with To Phat. But then, Graham would come in and say it should be Too Phat.

You think you're funny, but you're not.

mmpfm1
08-03-2005, 11:50 PM
Tophat should be pronounced Toofat

Hicks
08-03-2005, 11:54 PM
Top Hat is the name of one of the Pizza Kings in New Castle.

Kegboy
08-04-2005, 10:50 AM
You think you're funny, but you're not.

:( :cry: :bawl:

MagicRat
08-04-2005, 11:34 AM
:( :cry: :bawl:

Hey, look at the bright side. You may not be funny, but you are smarter than Larry Bird (allegedly)........:teach:

Vicious Tyrant
08-04-2005, 11:51 AM
:tophat:

Suaveness
08-04-2005, 02:28 PM
Wait so what exactly are you publishing? Like, give me examples here

Anthem
08-04-2005, 03:10 PM
Wait so what exactly are you publishing? Like, give me examples here

Literally anything that you want printed. We handle writing, editing, page design, translation (Spanish), and Section 508 compliance (don't ask). We don't print them ourselves, but we'll do all the preflight work and then broker the printer for you.

The short answer is that we can handle pretty much anything between a doctor's office form and the Great American Novel.

Kegboy
08-04-2005, 04:07 PM
Hey, look at the bright side. You may not be funny, but you are smarter than Larry Bird (allegedly)........:teach:

Yeah, cause there's a big accomplishment. :rolleyes: